15 seconds in and I'm like... Wait a minute.. This looks familiar. Absolutely love this place in Rhodes. Completely recommend to anyone looking for a windsurfing holiday in Europe!
Hah! Thank you for you kind words! Name of you centre is Windsurfers' World for anyone interested! Hope to have you join us again sometime Charlotte! :)
that was exactly my Problem last Session ! :D I get into the Harnessline and it turnes streight downwind. Seems like I have to work harder ! Great Job Kyriakos
Keep working on it!!!! Windsurfing is a hard sport but it is worth it... Also for your problem of going downwind too much, although it can be many things, check your harness line set up and that they are balanced! Sometimes it can be something simple that makes a huge difference! Keep riding! :)
Thank you Kyriakos... really good tips here, everytime i tried this position its really uncomfortable and i feel like im doing something wrong and i stopped.. but now u mentioned it i will keep trying until it feels natural..🤙👍
Yes keep pushing it! Also try small adjustments on the waist or hips to try and get it to feel more comfortable! It is a pretty tough position to start with but should be crazy uncomfortable :) Have fun and keep riding!
indeed it feels strange and kinda overdoing it (or posing even). Arrived at this stance by trying many combinations and was feeling a bit silly ("surely it can't be correct, but somehow this works!") but thanks for analyzing it all and making sense of it.
Nice video. When planing ,usually all it takes to start an upwind course (not too close but gets you up) is just looking pretty high upwind. That alone seems to make all the adjustments to stance etc that somehow it works....
Yes usually this should be plenty to get you upwind! Of course this depends on if you have a good body position to begin with, which many dont have! But looking upwind is definitely the most important and basic part! Add in the rest of the movements I talked about and you should be able to increase your upwind reach in no time! :)
Thank you again for a good video. I'm not at this stage yet but good to get information! I am struggling with getting planing, just as I am getting on the plane my board starts to wobble from side to side. Or then the board just really lifts out of the water and then tip over to the side and crash. Some say I have too much weight on the back foot. Some say get planing before getting into the harness. Some say get planing while in the harness. I'm lost 😅 help!
Hey! No worries... its a hard part you are stuck on but you will get through it soon! And then you will feel the real thrill of windsurfing! I dont recommend the getting planing before getting into the harness method because it is not necessary and it is tiring! Get planing while in the harness for sure... Now to deal with your problem try to get more pressure (not weight) onto your front foot and use the harness to create more mastfoot pressure! This will keep your board flat on the water and help you keep things under control! I have a video on that as well so go check that out! I hope this helps! Keep riding and have fun! :)
Where in Rhodes is he ? Been there before and it's a lovely lovely island. Butterflies in valleys and the crusaders in Rhodes town. Hired scooter and born to be wild in my head.joy oh joy.
Hey! I am happy you liked our island and we hope to see you back here... If you want to find us we are in Ixia bay. The centre is called Windsurfers' World and it is situated opposite the Olympic Palace hotel :) Best place for daily wind and fun of all sorts
As im learning i am not transitioning into planing and have no idea how i will ever get out of the middle of the board... tips for this learning phase would be good... it seems there are the very early learning curve bideos and then carve gybing at high speed... but nit much in between..
Hi Mike! I will look into filling that gap! But for now try increasing the power in your sail and keeping it as constant as possible. When you do that you will find that it gets harder to hold on to the sail (due to there being too much power). At this point you need to slide your feet back and outwards little by little. Your goal should be to reach the outer back part of the board (where footstraps are) but of course this cant be done without the equivalent power in the sail.
Hey! Yes I probably will get around to making one! Closing the sail is correct (of course there is a limit to how much) but just to clarify it is pressure you should be putting onto the front foot not weight. So you body weight/mass stays more to the back of the board when heading downwind but you take the power of the sail and through your body you lead it to the front foot, that way giving out pressure which will push your board down and keep it flat! Hope this helps and covers your question! Have fun and keep riding! :)
I dont really understand your terminology.. sorry! But basically my harness is like it always is and by bringing the weight and pressure to your front foot, it should be enough to stop the board from turning into the wind. I hope that answers your question! Enjoy :)
I tend to lose too much speed and come off the plane when sailing upwind, what could be causing this? I can't put too much pressure on the fins as I sail the thruster 21 + 2*11cm on my 105 Kode so I do engage my front leg. TNX - great videos - loving the channel
First two things that come to mind are: 1. Make sure you bring your body more upright (over the board) as the more you hang back the more power from the sail goes to holding up your weight. 2. Your front leg needs adjusting. Its not enough to simply bring the pressure there. You have to make sure you keep pretty much the same leg position as when normally planing. So dont bend the front leg. The more you bend it or relax it to feel more comfortable the more speed you will loose. Hope this helps! Enjoy! :)
I left that out because it is more a freeride/race style technique in my opinion. Like I mentioned in the video, what I am trying to show is a really all around technique that your can use with any equipment! I use this same technique to go upwind on my freestyle board as well and there is works better to keep my board pretty flat... But if you are riding a freeride/race board with a big enough fin then weight in the windward rail is also good! :) I hope this helps! Keep riding and have fun!
Thx for the answer. But i thought weightening the windward rail is especialy helpful for small fins because the whole length of the rail is helping to Go upwind and not only the fin. Weightening the leeward rail i thought is for Race/freeride boards?
@@rb333-v2c Like I mentioned it really depends on the board... What you are saying is definitely not incorrect, dont get me wrong! But the best i can recommend is to take your board and test its limits! For example my waveboard reacts well to pressuring the rail but my freestyle board doesnt. Hope this helps! Good luck and have fun! :)
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind This is a really interesting point to me. I guess I've been stuck on the idea of railing the leeward side of the board in order to get upwind at a fast speed, but maybe that doesn't work for one of my boards/fins, and may work well for the others...back to experimenting!
If anything it would be windward rail. But the reason I dont put any emphasis on that in the video is that it depends a lot on your board and fin(s). For instance on my fin and on some of my wave boards the best option is to keep the board pretty flat! Or at least not actually focus on putting pressure on the rail because I tend to use small fins in choppy waters.... You have to try it out with your board and see how it works. It defers slightly depending on your weight, the fin size and the water conditions! Enjoy! :)
But i thought weightening the windward rail is especialy helpful for small fins because the whole length of the rail is helping to Go upwind and not only the fin. Weightening the leeward rail i thought is for Race/freeride boards?
Again this really depends on your board... My wave boards respond like this yes. But my freestyle board doesnt really like pressure on the rail. The best advice I can give you for this is to simply test it and see how much rail pressure your board can take before you notice it has the opposite effect! :)
This is the video that i have been looking forward to. thanks a lot!! one quick question, by seeing pro surfers the gap between outhaul line and center of the board is pretty close, it looks like almost touching the board, when I try to bring the sail back as much as they do my board is spining out and loosing speed. what is the problem?
Hi Joseph! I hope this video helps. What you are describing is specifically for big race gear. The shape of race/freerace sails and the usual large size allows the sail to come down close to the board when pulling it back.Also this is combined with a large or at least race style fin with can take a lot of pressure. So depending on what you are riding this may or may not be possible. You will not be seeing this for example with small gear and non race equipment.
Nico Prien is preaching a somewhat bent front leg... So which stance is right? My compliments on your great yt channel,BTW. Here is Nico Prien's video: ua-cam.com/video/zepVEO_zMW0/v-deo.html
Like you said it is a 'somewhat' bent leg, which means you would have to precise with your control of it and Nico is talking with a lot of focus on race style gear and riding. I would still recommend to not bend it as a general rule. My video tries to focus on a technique for everyone and everyday level riders and so I believe the best way is to focus on keeping it pretty straight (it will probably naturally bend a little for most people anyway). Of course I am not saying Nico is wrong, he is a fantastic sailor and worth listening to! Hope that clears it up a bit :)
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind Thanks for the feedback.. My feel for upwind is not too oversheet the sail with the overly bent front leg and excessive pressure on the back one - thus stalling the sail and messing up the flow over the fin. Having said above, a disclaimer - i have intermediate windsurfing skills, so I may be wrong on a myriad of levels.
@@davidtsereteli4148 No problem! Sounds to me like u have a pretty good understanding of what you should do and of your mistakes, which is very important! So just keep practicing and trying out different things! Take it one step at a time! Good luck and have fun! :)
Bro ,you are the first one explaining it so clear that I got it watching your video once .Great job.Greetings from Spain 🫡
15 seconds in and I'm like... Wait a minute.. This looks familiar.
Absolutely love this place in Rhodes. Completely recommend to anyone looking for a windsurfing holiday in Europe!
Hah! Thank you for you kind words!
Name of you centre is Windsurfers' World for anyone interested!
Hope to have you join us again sometime Charlotte! :)
that was exactly my Problem last Session ! :D I get into the Harnessline and it turnes streight downwind. Seems like I have to work harder ! Great Job Kyriakos
Keep working on it!!!!
Windsurfing is a hard sport but it is worth it...
Also for your problem of going downwind too much, although it can be many things, check your harness line set up and that they are balanced! Sometimes it can be something simple that makes a huge difference!
Keep riding! :)
Really awesome. I love your body position coaching cues. Works. Getting my body into the right place in 3 manageable steps at first. Cool!
Glad you liked it!
I try to keep it as simple as possible... :)
I'm so glad I found you! keep teaching us your knowledge!!!
Thank you for your kind words! :D
Thanks for sharing. It helps a lot.....!!!!
I am glad to help! Enjoy your time on the water
That will change my sailing for sure!
I hope towards the best!
Good luck!!! :)
Thank you for the clear explanation!
Glad it was helpful! :)
Great video! Exactly what I needed to learn. I will go out to practice this evening.
Glad you liked it!
Try it out and any questions you have just get in touch! :)
Hope it helps :D
Thank you Kyriakos... really good tips here, everytime i tried this position its really uncomfortable and i feel like im doing something wrong and i stopped.. but now u mentioned it i will keep trying until it feels natural..🤙👍
Yes keep pushing it!
Also try small adjustments on the waist or hips to try and get it to feel more comfortable! It is a pretty tough position to start with but should be crazy uncomfortable :)
Have fun and keep riding!
Great video
Great tutorial very helpful I did find it hard at first but you get there in the end 👍👍
Its all about practice! :)
Didn't realize you shouldn't bend your front knee.Thank you that has been my problem
Glad I could help! Let us know how you get along now 🤙
indeed it feels strange and kinda overdoing it (or posing even). Arrived at this stance by trying many combinations and was feeling a bit silly ("surely it can't be correct, but somehow this works!") but thanks for analyzing it all and making sense of it.
Glad you liked it!
Soon enough it will feel super natural (maybe not look like it :D )
Great video thanks!
Your welcome! I hope it helps :)
Nice video. When planing ,usually all it takes to start an upwind course (not too close but gets you up) is just looking pretty high upwind. That alone seems to make all the adjustments to stance etc that somehow it works....
Yes usually this should be plenty to get you upwind! Of course this depends on if you have a good body position to begin with, which many dont have!
But looking upwind is definitely the most important and basic part! Add in the rest of the movements I talked about and you should be able to increase your upwind reach in no time! :)
Thank you boss. Good seasons... 👌
No problem! Thank you and good season as well! :)
Thank you again for a good video. I'm not at this stage yet but good to get information! I am struggling with getting planing, just as I am getting on the plane my board starts to wobble from side to side. Or then the board just really lifts out of the water and then tip over to the side and crash. Some say I have too much weight on the back foot. Some say get planing before getting into the harness. Some say get planing while in the harness. I'm lost 😅 help!
Hey! No worries... its a hard part you are stuck on but you will get through it soon! And then you will feel the real thrill of windsurfing!
I dont recommend the getting planing before getting into the harness method because it is not necessary and it is tiring! Get planing while in the harness for sure...
Now to deal with your problem try to get more pressure (not weight) onto your front foot and use the harness to create more mastfoot pressure! This will keep your board flat on the water and help you keep things under control!
I have a video on that as well so go check that out!
I hope this helps! Keep riding and have fun! :)
Where in Rhodes is he ? Been there before and it's a lovely lovely island. Butterflies in valleys and the crusaders in Rhodes town. Hired scooter and born to be wild in my head.joy oh joy.
Hey! I am happy you liked our island and we hope to see you back here...
If you want to find us we are in Ixia bay. The centre is called Windsurfers' World and it is situated opposite the Olympic Palace hotel :)
Best place for daily wind and fun of all sorts
Niice ! Thanks man 😊
Thank you for watching! Hope it helps :)
boom back, body foward, look at upwind... thanks
simple! :D
As im learning i am not transitioning into planing and have no idea how i will ever get out of the middle of the board... tips for this learning phase would be good... it seems there are the very early learning curve bideos and then carve gybing at high speed... but nit much in between..
Hi Mike! I will look into filling that gap!
But for now try increasing the power in your sail and keeping it as constant as possible. When you do that you will find that it gets harder to hold on to the sail (due to there being too much power). At this point you need to slide your feet back and outwards little by little. Your goal should be to reach the outer back part of the board (where footstraps are) but of course this cant be done without the equivalent power in the sail.
Can you do a downwind and beam reach tutorial? Do you always close the sail and put your weight in front?
Hey! Yes I probably will get around to making one!
Closing the sail is correct (of course there is a limit to how much) but just to clarify it is pressure you should be putting onto the front foot not weight. So you body weight/mass stays more to the back of the board when heading downwind but you take the power of the sail and through your body you lead it to the front foot, that way giving out pressure which will push your board down and keep it flat!
Hope this helps and covers your question!
Have fun and keep riding! :)
thanks for this! would you recommend short tacks or long tacks?
No problem! Glad you like it :)
I would say long gives you the most out of each ride... at least I prefer long when trying to get upwind :)
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind thanks
Do you also weigh up the harness to keep the board speed up and to prevent it from turning into the wind?
I dont really understand your terminology.. sorry!
But basically my harness is like it always is and by bringing the weight and pressure to your front foot, it should be enough to stop the board from turning into the wind.
I hope that answers your question!
Enjoy :)
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I tend to lose too much speed and come off the plane when sailing upwind, what could be causing this? I can't put too much pressure on the fins as I sail the thruster 21 + 2*11cm on my 105 Kode so I do engage my front leg. TNX - great videos - loving the channel
First two things that come to mind are:
1. Make sure you bring your body more upright (over the board) as the more you hang back the more power from the sail goes to holding up your weight.
2. Your front leg needs adjusting. Its not enough to simply bring the pressure there. You have to make sure you keep pretty much the same leg position as when normally planing. So dont bend the front leg. The more you bend it or relax it to feel more comfortable the more speed you will loose.
Hope this helps! Enjoy! :)
Donˋt you weight the windward rail for going upwind?
I left that out because it is more a freeride/race style technique in my opinion.
Like I mentioned in the video, what I am trying to show is a really all around technique that your can use with any equipment!
I use this same technique to go upwind on my freestyle board as well and there is works better to keep my board pretty flat...
But if you are riding a freeride/race board with a big enough fin then weight in the windward rail is also good! :)
I hope this helps! Keep riding and have fun!
Thx for the answer. But i thought weightening the windward rail is especialy helpful for small fins because the whole length of the rail is helping to Go upwind and not only the fin. Weightening the leeward rail i thought is for Race/freeride boards?
@@rb333-v2c Like I mentioned it really depends on the board... What you are saying is definitely not incorrect, dont get me wrong! But the best i can recommend is to take your board and test its limits!
For example my waveboard reacts well to pressuring the rail but my freestyle board doesnt.
Hope this helps! Good luck and have fun! :)
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind This is a really interesting point to me. I guess I've been stuck on the idea of railing the leeward side of the board in order to get upwind at a fast speed, but maybe that doesn't work for one of my boards/fins, and may work well for the others...back to experimenting!
Thank you! For wave gear: Would you recommend pressure on the windward or leeward rail?
If anything it would be windward rail. But the reason I dont put any emphasis on that in the video is that it depends a lot on your board and fin(s).
For instance on my fin and on some of my wave boards the best option is to keep the board pretty flat! Or at least not actually focus on putting pressure on the rail because I tend to use small fins in choppy waters....
You have to try it out with your board and see how it works. It defers slightly depending on your weight, the fin size and the water conditions!
Enjoy! :)
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind Thanks for your good explanation! I will try it out and get back. It's a bit different to slalom stuff...
@@WindsurfingNelson Yes, certainly is! Slalom is an art of its own! :D
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind OMG!!!
But i thought weightening the windward rail is especialy helpful for small fins because the whole length of the rail is helping to Go upwind and not only the fin. Weightening the leeward rail i thought is for Race/freeride boards?
Again this really depends on your board... My wave boards respond like this yes. But my freestyle board doesnt really like pressure on the rail. The best advice I can give you for this is to simply test it and see how much rail pressure your board can take before you notice it has the opposite effect! :)
This is the video that i have been looking forward to. thanks a lot!!
one quick question, by seeing pro surfers the gap between outhaul line and center of the board is pretty close, it looks like almost touching the board, when I try to bring the sail back as much as they do my board is spining out and loosing speed.
what is the problem?
Hi Joseph! I hope this video helps.
What you are describing is specifically for big race gear. The shape of race/freerace sails and the usual large size allows the sail to come down close to the board when pulling it back.Also this is combined with a large or at least race style fin with can take a lot of pressure.
So depending on what you are riding this may or may not be possible. You will not be seeing this for example with small gear and non race equipment.
Aloha
Aloha Chi! :)
Nico Prien is preaching a somewhat bent front leg... So which stance is right? My compliments on your great yt channel,BTW. Here is Nico Prien's video: ua-cam.com/video/zepVEO_zMW0/v-deo.html
Like you said it is a 'somewhat' bent leg, which means you would have to precise with your control of it and Nico is talking with a lot of focus on race style gear and riding. I would still recommend to not bend it as a general rule.
My video tries to focus on a technique for everyone and everyday level riders and so I believe the best way is to focus on keeping it pretty straight (it will probably naturally bend a little for most people anyway). Of course I am not saying Nico is wrong, he is a fantastic sailor and worth listening to!
Hope that clears it up a bit :)
@@kyriakosgiakoumaroswingandwind Thanks for the feedback.. My feel for upwind is not too oversheet the sail with the overly bent front leg and excessive pressure on the back one - thus stalling the sail and messing up the flow over the fin. Having said above, a disclaimer - i have intermediate windsurfing skills, so I may be wrong on a myriad of levels.
@@davidtsereteli4148 No problem!
Sounds to me like u have a pretty good understanding of what you should do and of your mistakes, which is very important! So just keep practicing and trying out different things! Take it one step at a time!
Good luck and have fun! :)
Вот парню бы косичку обрезать нормальный бы мужик получился..😉
Again, too much words🤣🤣🤣