Nice video, I love the style. Some great points made 😊 Couple extra things I would mention: 1) A good ZSS player will use the paralyzer as a conditioning tool. Jumping over it can be just as dangerous as shielding, because she can stuff out the jump with moves like zair or forward air. As you say, mix it up! 2) She is actually extremely vulnerable when you shield flip kick. Slightly less so when you shield the flipstool, because she has control over her direction. Another good strategy, especially for sword characters, is to jump and attack it. If they miss and get hit by the flipstool, they can still attack her immediately after bouncing off the floor. 3) Possibly the most important thing for beating her, which you sort of touched on near the start: stay out of her effective range. If you’re a close-range-speedy like Fox, stay right in her face to stop her spacing around you. If you’re a long-range zoner like Link, keep a half stage length away from her where possible so she can’t nair you for free.
good vid, this really shows how a Heavy weight has little to no options to deal with her, Ganon for example, zero laser so fast so spamable, paralyses, she has range, and hits hard,
One thing I can say about her flip jump is that if you get above her even at the start of the move, she is completely vulnerable. Her attack only covers below her. A stage that easily exploits this is Kalos. Your welcome. Edit: You can also include Town and City for the platforms over the blast zone.
She is just bullshit, she has barely no end lag, a projectile, a long range grab that works also as a way to get back to stage. She incapacitate half the cast who doesn't have good stage movility. No fun when you see that 0 campy Zss player.
i’m watching this cuz i want to learn how to deal with her final smash because all i do is just jump off the stage because it feels impossible to deal with
Just started playing after a long time. Found a dude who just mashed down b on wifi and it genuinely felt like I couldn’t punish it and it’s just annoying
2:24 Uh, no she’s not. If ZSS flip kicks your shield, she literally can’t do anything until she touches the ground or falls off stage for a bit. Punish with whatever you want, just don’t do something directly out of shield since she gets knocked far away. You have until she touches the ground to punish + a bit of landing lag. Flip footstool on shield is pretty much the same except she can control her momentum more so you have to react to whatever direction she goes but can still land any combo starter you want on her. Take it from a ZSS main that’s watched all of STAWBs Orio’s videos 10 times over. Edit: Wow, just realized STAWBs Orio is actually in your comments section and basically said the same thing. Lol Edit 2: You didn’t mention how effective shield is against her since her grab and grab game is complete ass. It’s kind of mind boggling to me that people insist on challenging her aerials when they can just shield and punish. Yes, neutral air/zair is safe on shield, but that’s only if spaced properly and it doesn’t do much shield damage so there’s really no reason not to. Yes I can go for a tomahawk, but that’s getting me like 15% damage max and if you spotdodge it (which beats nair as well) you’re getting like 30% off some combo starter or something. I’m low key with Marss saying she *should* be mid tier with these weaknesses, but in practice people basically ignore them which throws her into top tier.
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Nice video, I love the style. Some great points made 😊
Couple extra things I would mention:
1) A good ZSS player will use the paralyzer as a conditioning tool. Jumping over it can be just as dangerous as shielding, because she can stuff out the jump with moves like zair or forward air. As you say, mix it up!
2) She is actually extremely vulnerable when you shield flip kick. Slightly less so when you shield the flipstool, because she has control over her direction. Another good strategy, especially for sword characters, is to jump and attack it. If they miss and get hit by the flipstool, they can still attack her immediately after bouncing off the floor.
3) Possibly the most important thing for beating her, which you sort of touched on near the start: stay out of her effective range. If you’re a close-range-speedy like Fox, stay right in her face to stop her spacing around you. If you’re a long-range zoner like Link, keep a half stage length away from her where possible so she can’t nair you for free.
Love this series!
3:20 footage of Marss destroying a child.
Brooo I juste love your channel you’re so underrated
good vid, this really shows how a Heavy weight has little to no options to deal with her, Ganon for example, zero laser so fast so spamable, paralyses, she has range, and hits hard,
Ooh nice vid! Love it! I didn't know any weaknesses of zss and now I think I might be able to beat her
Wow thanks for the shout out I really appreciate it ❤️
Well done thumbnail.
One thing I can say about her flip jump is that if you get above her even at the start of the move, she is completely vulnerable. Her attack only covers below her. A stage that easily exploits this is Kalos. Your welcome.
Edit: You can also include Town and City for the platforms over the blast zone.
Even knowing this, she is extremely hard to defeat.
Amazing top tier.
Great video!! Thanks!
You’re welcome, good sir!
She is just bullshit, she has barely no end lag, a projectile, a long range grab that works also as a way to get back to stage. She incapacitate half the cast who doesn't have good stage movility. No fun when you see that 0 campy Zss player.
Update: With Mythra in Smash, she has the 2nd fastest initial Dash and 7th fastest dash.
Heeee thanks incluiding me, i always watch your videos!!!
thank you now i'll never any more zero suit samus mains get into elite smash
i’m watching this cuz i want to learn how to deal with her final smash because all i do is just jump off the stage because it feels impossible to deal with
If you're a Falcon player and have really good timing and anticipation, Falcon dive can counter the flip jump.
Please keep the “how to beat” series going! This is honestly even more helpful than “how to play” videos for me!
Keep up the great work dude!
This vid was so helpful, thank god you exist, now I can kick my older cousin's ass when we play!
I just watched right now
Just started playing after a long time. Found a dude who just mashed down b on wifi and it genuinely felt like I couldn’t punish it and it’s just annoying
its say uploaded six minutes ago but the last comment was posted 24 minutes ago
I use Mii Hulk Hogan on her, wrestling style.
The clips with bowser are so not accurate, he clearly would survive at these percents with a proper di
Dude today is tournament day and my first opponent mains ZSS 😍
Good luck!
Me watching this as a Zss secondary to know how to never get beat: 🧠 😈
*hyper subs*
Wow i fought her in first try without this video
Funny thing is...ZSS can counter her counter play 😂.
She is just too good.
2:24 Uh, no she’s not. If ZSS flip kicks your shield, she literally can’t do anything until she touches the ground or falls off stage for a bit. Punish with whatever you want, just don’t do something directly out of shield since she gets knocked far away. You have until she touches the ground to punish + a bit of landing lag. Flip footstool on shield is pretty much the same except she can control her momentum more so you have to react to whatever direction she goes but can still land any combo starter you want on her. Take it from a ZSS main that’s watched all of STAWBs Orio’s videos 10 times over.
Edit: Wow, just realized STAWBs Orio is actually in your comments section and basically said the same thing. Lol
Edit 2: You didn’t mention how effective shield is against her since her grab and grab game is complete ass. It’s kind of mind boggling to me that people insist on challenging her aerials when they can just shield and punish. Yes, neutral air/zair is safe on shield, but that’s only if spaced properly and it doesn’t do much shield damage so there’s really no reason not to. Yes I can go for a tomahawk, but that’s getting me like 15% damage max and if you spotdodge it (which beats nair as well) you’re getting like 30% off some combo starter or something. I’m low key with Marss saying she *should* be mid tier with these weaknesses, but in practice people basically ignore them which throws her into top tier.
Nah.
We all know 69% came here for the wrong reasons if you know what i mean (yea you know.)
well done man this really taught me how to play the character not beat it
Just remove her from the game