"I think [the Oklahoma legislators] were banking on the fact that we were ignorant," teacher Kambra Reynolds told VICE News. WATCH More on the Oklahoma teacher walkout here: bit.ly/2GwJlC8
M M I'd like to know where you work, because where I grew up, teachers were paying out of pocket for classroom supplies and food to feed the kids who showed up to school with no lunch because their parents couldn't afford to feed them. Where I grew up teachers worked overtime grading, creating comprehensive lesson plans, and and sponsoring after school activities so kids had a safe place to be after school. Where I grew up, teachers worked second and third jobs to pay their bills and student loan debts, including working through the summer. Teachers are consistently underpaid nationwide for the amount of education they're required to have and the amount of work they're expected to put in. I know teachers who have sacrificed so much for their students; who've gotten hit, spit on, threatened, and they still do the job they do because they're invested in these kids' well being.
M M honestly. I've had awful teachers too. I've had homophobic teachers that made me physically uncomfortable and I've had teachers that were so racist and condescending that they really fucked over one of my best friends who's mixed. (I lived in a more urban but very poor west virginia town until high school, and then I moved to rural Virginia.) I really was lucky to have teachers who created a space for me and people like me to be safe. And it's really unfortunate that not all kids have that. In my opinion, the only way to have higher quality teachers is to pay them better. I know that sounds counter productive, like rewarding bad behavior, but in a lot of school systems, teachers are paid so little that there is a major deficit in employees. When you have more competitive wages and benefits, your demand increases and you can afford to be more selective when hiring. Schools with less funding and lower wages consistently have lower ratings and test scores. It's pretty basic economics, but our government hasn't ever been super concerned with education, much less education for poor kids and black kids. (there are a lot of other, more system wide problems with our education system but that's an argument for another day)
Uniblonder it's true that some more affluent areas appreciate their teachers and pay a fair salary. But much more common, and fast becoming the new normal, are cash strapped areas who have continued to cut budgets for education. In California 6 kindergarten teachers, including my mother, had to pay out of pocket for 90 percent of anything non-curiculem; math, reading, science. Not to mention their salary was never even close to what was promised. Teaching is 8months a year, but IDK why you think they're getting paid, most aren't! Then there are a never ending and growing weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, quarterly, semi-quarterly, annual, review date, and making time for every over protective 🚁 helicopter parent, then it's time to grade HW, or set up the next arts and crafts project all 10,000 little cut out cardboard pieces. They have a very hard job
M M unfortunately, with the teacher deficit there's not a whole lot school systems can do to punish subpar teachers. There's so many empty job openings that firing a teacher becomes difficult because there won't be anyone to take their place. And I have to say, I don't think camera surveillance on classrooms foster a very healthy atmosphere for kids to feel safe or comfortable in. In my experience, I often had more problems with administration not pulling through than I ever did with teachers. Regardless, everyone's experience is different and I think it's generally clear the education system needs serious reform. No Child Left Behind has done way more harm than good and there are teachers all across the country who are barely getting by
If you pay them more, actually qualified people might consider doing the job. If you can't earn a living wage and are so underfunded that you don't even have enough materials at your disposal, you can't expect decent education. If I were one of those teachers, having two university master degrees myself, I would have quit and switched professions. Qualified people do that, you know, if the pay is so horrible. It is an absolute disgrace to pay educators so little and to undervalue education to such an extent. The only teachers left will be those so passionate that they are willing to suffer (which is just shameful) and teachers that aren't able to do their jobs properly. You might also consider that, if teachers have to take a second or third job, the quality of their work suffers, since they are overworked and teaching is more than just a 9-to-5 job.
Damn right! Raise funding for education. If people aren't educated well, they aren't suited to work in the jobs that are going to be dominating our future.
Because American education system is split into two. The public for the mass and poor. The private schools for the children of the elites who will be properly educated and will succeed their parents.
ARVIN I think it's due more to the fact private schools success is based on their performance and public schools have next to zero responsibility to produce any results, welcome to the union.
I grew up in west virginia and my family literally had to move away because my mom (who is a single mother) didn't make enough money as a public school teacher to support my brother and I. People should be supporting these teachers in their strikes, because they're not just striking for their pay but for the funding for their students' education. And while they're out of school right now, they're out protesting, making sure their students have food, and are volunteering at after school programs.
me not u my mom has had to work two additional part time jobs in the past to keep my family afloat. Higher wage means teachers have more time to devote to lesson plans, grading, professional development, and a whole score of other things that improve education in schools. Not to mention that paying more increases the demand for those positions, meaning you can be more selective when hiring teachers. It's basic supply and demand. During the teachers strike in west virginia, the state literally could not afford to fire striking teachers because they pay so little that there was already a defecit in teachers, and there would be no new employees to replace the fired ones.
Having grown up in Oklahoma and trained as a teacher, I can tell you a simple solution: leave Oklahoma. It sucks. It is a horrible horrible horrible place to live.
Damn, for so reason I wanted to watch this because I wanted to see my teacher, but me seeing this I thought that teachers just want money to help, but then I notice that there not just doing this for money there doing it for student band, choir, chairs, music, art, class, and learning so I hope every teacher gets a raise!!!
Viet Vo kind of. She increased funding for specialty programs for all schools like mental health and safety but has taken away securities and diverted funds to schools who make a profit off of learning like charter schools (high failure rates) and private schools ( govt investing in religion even with the seperation of church and state)
Viet Vo Yes, but our state was already doing the same before she took office. This red state thinks privatizing everything is the answer and has followed Kansas straight off a cliff. Privatization is why our prisons have to be at 90% capacity. Let that sink in.
I live in Northeast Oklahoma. They tried to get a bond passed last year or the year before to raise teacher pay. They were going to raise taxes to pay for the pay increase...when all said and done they would have negated their raise and been right back where they started. Let that sink in. These are the people educating kids. There are things that we can do. I have family members that work in public schools. A lot of money is wasted on subs (they contract temp agencies to call subs to keep up with demand) and books that have little to no changes. They recently spent 300000 for math supplement books with a license that can only be used once online. Teachers should focus on wasteful spending in their schools.
There is a pretty simple solution to creating a good teaching environment, pay teachers equal or more than administrators. That way people will compete way more than before for teaching positions. Naturally that will get us better and higher quality teachers which will then be able to raise our education standards naturally.
I made more than these teachers working as a janitor in Alaska in 1983. And now I make four times a much as these teachers working six hours per day. When teachers graduating from college, they can look forward to having more debt after their first thru fifth year of teaching them when they started. But move to Texas, as I believe one of the “teachers of the year” from Oklahoma did, and you get paid over $60K.
Jackson Dune The Oklahoma passes funding increases for education, but never funds them. Our state budget is in the red for hundreds of millions so it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on. The last time they increased teacher pay, they didn’t fund it so schools that were already under funded were on the hook for the mandatory raises. Some had to let other personnel go in order to have the money for the increases. Small schools were hit hardest and the majority of our schools work with a skeleton crew to begin with.
WTF that teacher only makes one thousand dollars a month you could work at a fast food joint and earn more. This is a disgrace glad they are getting more money education is the future.
The trouble with these folks is that they think they are entrepreneurs and legislators. They are neither. They are not required to risk their own capital, nor are they required to make potentially life changing decisions every day. They are entry level government employees. Someone needs to tell them that, and explain the difference between the two.
Or these guys could all say that they're going to vote Democrat this year and change their party administration. That will get politicians' attention right away.
Teachers need the raise in tge whole country, they help raise all our bad ass children while parents work. And if you think your kids are perfect, please say no to drugs.
M M yeah isn't the reason we work is to collect a paycheck, pay bills, food, ect.? Every individual is going to put so much into their profession. That's the real world, some people love their job, some are there for the paycheck. Maybe you should focus on yourself and not what others are doing. My point was a small majority of kids actually wanted to learn what's being taught in school, majority of students just do enough to get by, and a few others are there cause they have to be. You can't teach crap to kids who don't wanna learn anything but new features on Twitter. Funny we've never met and you assault my intelligence. what we can't just have an agree to disagree friendly talk on the UA-cam comment section. Sir or Ma'am.... You have a good day. Your momma taught you better.
Keith Surface most school boards approved this walk out. Also not all are taking busses most are car pooling with their own cars. The school boards are standing behind their teachers
Thanks and here's where we'll most likely disagree. School Boards are there because of the students. (=No students, no school board). (No students = No Teachers). (No students = no buses). Back to my point: If I protest working conditions at a John Deere plant, I wouldn't "borrow" a company owned tractor to do my walkout. I feel all teachers, like Wal-Mart Greeters deserve higher pay & benefits, but no one twisted your arm to sign on. Lastly, don't "schmooze" your way onto a free bus ride/fuel/driver costs that was funded & contracted for the kids, to fulfill your own agenda, Good luck and my new sign will read: "KEEP PROTESTING TEACHERS OFF SCHOOL BUSES" Oh yea, isit buses or busses - I'm sure you wonder: grammarist.com/spelling/buses-busses/ Thanks and fun !
Boredom off topic observation this article is probablely posted on my cellphone by someone who has not realized that the system indicating the option of remote educational learning using the internet. Anyway as i mentioned before . Efforts to inform present and future teachers of this possibility is required. This recycled article does not.
"What do we want? Better pay! When do we want it? We got it but we're gonna stay! So what do we want? I guess a better pension! When do we want it? Who cares we want attention! Oh... So now what do we want? A land rover or a hummer! Uh, when do we want it? We're just lazy waiting for students to be out for summer! That's kinda messed up. Better pay! I didn't ask what you wanted. We got it but we are here to stay! What the hell you guys are just bored and lazy. Better pay! (Sigh)"
I am Mal-educated. But the star of this show says that her yearly income is around 15000 dollars while if you google "average oklahoma teacher annual income" you'll see that Oklahoma's minimum teacher salary ranges from $31,600 to $46,000. I believe the teacher. But is her story an outlier? just looking for insight.
Health insurance premiums are what hammer Oklahoma teachers. She pays $400-882 a month just to cover herself, and might pay as much as $1600 a month if she covers her husband and children through her plan.Teachers also pay 7% of the first $25K in salary to the pension fund, or $1750.
77% of pension contributions ($1750 per teacher plus 3% of salary from Oklahoma) to to paying pension debt. Oklahoma has received an F in pension funding. The Oklahoma teacher pension pays only $100 to $105 of the health insurance premiums for retired teachers.
That figure is before deductions ahe said her take home the insurance of out ridiculous that they have to pay and needs to be renigotioned to better premiums and lower deductibles, and our state taxes are high as well so after all deductions this is what is left
They're already averaging 45-50k/year + benefits, and want another 10k..... That's ~$32/hr currently (considering the 3 months vacation), and they want that closer to $45/hr (average + benefits).... How many of the people here who are saying that they deserve a raise are earning anywhere near that amount? Do you think a teacher is doing 6x the work of a typical minimum wage employee? The problem is the union, it doesn't allow for better teachers to get raises, so all the current teachers don't want to work harder because it gets them nothing extra. If we could pay the best teachers more, and fire the bad teachers (also not allowed by the union), THEN we would be able to improve the system and increase the quality of our teachers. Unfortunately, unions force all the employees to become "equal", mindless, drones with no ambitions. You only get promoted by seniority, and not by the quality of your work. We all know this is true, out of all the teachers in our lives, there was one, maybe two teachers that were great, and the rest were..... not so great......
whats funny is the teacher they showcase is obviously living well, nice big house, three kids and all. They could have at least showed some improvised teacher living of top-Ramon and burning trash for warmth lol
Did you not watch the video? The lady's nice house was supported by her husband. Most of them accepted the pay raise. They are protesting to increase SCHOOL FUNDING.
+_in my eye, I'd have no problem paying them 10x minimum, but only in a free market. I wish it were true that higher pay attracted better talent, but that doesn't apply in government. If you have talents, you go to the free market, where you can get compensated based on your abilities and not seniority. Everybody in government is there because they want to make a lot of money while not having any real abilities to offer. You won't get fired from the DMV for being too slow, in fact, you'll get into trouble for being too fast and your co-workers will hate you for making them look bad. The unions won't even allow them to raise the standards on who's qualified to be a teacher. They just want bodies. You can't get better teacher with zero accountability, even if you started out as a great teacher, you quickly learn that there's zero reason to work harder than anybody else.
your generalizing the issue Eugene. Its bigger than pay per hour. Oklahoma has the lowest wages in the nation right now. Teachers are leaving to the border states by the droves because of the massive wage difference. Its causing a huge problem here in Oklahoma along with the lack of funding for schools and other programs.
snake sollid what does Trump have to do with state funding, absolutely nothing this is a result of our greedy ass house reps. That refuse to fund education but continue to find prisons and jails.
Scott Crockett You get what you pay for. Poor wages don't attract the best people. Also teachers can't perform at their best if they have to work a second job to support themselves rather than spending more time lesson planning. Finally, they're striking mainly for more school funding, not pay raises because you can't teach well if you don't have sufficient resources to do so.
Alex education is a massive black hole in most state budgets that taxpayers rarely see a return on. You have Oklahoma and Kentucky wanting more $ but refusing to better perform.
"I think [the Oklahoma legislators] were banking on the fact that we were ignorant," teacher Kambra Reynolds told VICE News.
WATCH More on the Oklahoma teacher walkout here: bit.ly/2GwJlC8
Hey what are you picks doing to Naomi 'SexyCyborg' Wu?
“support my teaching habit.” what a brutal and true summation of the reality.
Teachers are some of the most underpaid and under appreciated people they deserve better than this
M M I'd like to know where you work, because where I grew up, teachers were paying out of pocket for classroom supplies and food to feed the kids who showed up to school with no lunch because their parents couldn't afford to feed them. Where I grew up teachers worked overtime grading, creating comprehensive lesson plans, and and sponsoring after school activities so kids had a safe place to be after school. Where I grew up, teachers worked second and third jobs to pay their bills and student loan debts, including working through the summer. Teachers are consistently underpaid nationwide for the amount of education they're required to have and the amount of work they're expected to put in. I know teachers who have sacrificed so much for their students; who've gotten hit, spit on, threatened, and they still do the job they do because they're invested in these kids' well being.
M M honestly. I've had awful teachers too. I've had homophobic teachers that made me physically uncomfortable and I've had teachers that were so racist and condescending that they really fucked over one of my best friends who's mixed. (I lived in a more urban but very poor west virginia town until high school, and then I moved to rural Virginia.) I really was lucky to have teachers who created a space for me and people like me to be safe. And it's really unfortunate that not all kids have that. In my opinion, the only way to have higher quality teachers is to pay them better. I know that sounds counter productive, like rewarding bad behavior, but in a lot of school systems, teachers are paid so little that there is a major deficit in employees. When you have more competitive wages and benefits, your demand increases and you can afford to be more selective when hiring. Schools with less funding and lower wages consistently have lower ratings and test scores. It's pretty basic economics, but our government hasn't ever been super concerned with education, much less education for poor kids and black kids. (there are a lot of other, more system wide problems with our education system but that's an argument for another day)
Uniblonder it's true that some more affluent areas appreciate their teachers and pay a fair salary. But much more common, and fast becoming the new normal, are cash strapped areas who have continued to cut budgets for education. In California 6
kindergarten teachers, including my mother, had to pay out of pocket for 90 percent of anything non-curiculem; math, reading, science. Not to mention their salary was never even close to what was promised. Teaching is 8months a year, but IDK why you think they're getting paid, most aren't! Then there are a never ending and growing weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, quarterly, semi-quarterly, annual, review date, and making time for every over protective 🚁 helicopter parent, then it's time to grade HW, or set up the next arts and crafts project all 10,000 little cut out cardboard pieces. They have a very hard job
M M unfortunately, with the teacher deficit there's not a whole lot school systems can do to punish subpar teachers. There's so many empty job openings that firing a teacher becomes difficult because there won't be anyone to take their place. And I have to say, I don't think camera surveillance on classrooms foster a very healthy atmosphere for kids to feel safe or comfortable in. In my experience, I often had more problems with administration not pulling through than I ever did with teachers. Regardless, everyone's experience is different and I think it's generally clear the education system needs serious reform. No Child Left Behind has done way more harm than good and there are teachers all across the country who are barely getting by
You have no idea, especially dealing with at risk kids on a daily basis.
Teachers deserve much better pay, and in some cases, school kids deserve much better teachers.
If you pay them more, actually qualified people might consider doing the job. If you can't earn a living wage and are so underfunded that you don't even have enough materials at your disposal, you can't expect decent education.
If I were one of those teachers, having two university master degrees myself, I would have quit and switched professions. Qualified people do that, you know, if the pay is so horrible.
It is an absolute disgrace to pay educators so little and to undervalue education to such an extent. The only teachers left will be those so passionate that they are willing to suffer (which is just shameful) and teachers that aren't able to do their jobs properly. You might also consider that, if teachers have to take a second or third job, the quality of their work suffers, since they are overworked and teaching is more than just a 9-to-5 job.
Damn right! Raise funding for education. If people aren't educated well, they aren't suited to work in the jobs that are going to be dominating our future.
It's ridiculous how much they spend on the military and yet to teach our kids the minimum it seems.
roman2011 they dont spend enough on our military!!!!
The US actually spends far more on education than it's Military.
Because American education system is split into two. The public for the mass and poor. The private schools for the children of the elites who will be properly educated and will succeed their parents.
ARVIN I think it's due more to the fact private schools success is based on their performance and public schools have next to zero responsibility to produce any results, welcome to the union.
Yeah only -115 billion more. For those that need help, that's 115 million MORE we spend on Defense (military) than on Education.
I grew up in west virginia and my family literally had to move away because my mom (who is a single mother) didn't make enough money as a public school teacher to support my brother and I. People should be supporting these teachers in their strikes, because they're not just striking for their pay but for the funding for their students' education. And while they're out of school right now, they're out protesting, making sure their students have food, and are volunteering at after school programs.
figuremeoutyourself when teachers make more money, the skool resources and kids suffer!!!
me not u my mom has had to work two additional part time jobs in the past to keep my family afloat. Higher wage means teachers have more time to devote to lesson plans, grading, professional development, and a whole score of other things that improve education in schools. Not to mention that paying more increases the demand for those positions, meaning you can be more selective when hiring teachers. It's basic supply and demand. During the teachers strike in west virginia, the state literally could not afford to fire striking teachers because they pay so little that there was already a defecit in teachers, and there would be no new employees to replace the fired ones.
Having grown up in Oklahoma and trained as a teacher, I can tell you a simple solution: leave Oklahoma. It sucks. It is a horrible horrible horrible place to live.
Wheatley where did you decide to move
Damn, for so reason I wanted to watch this because I wanted to see my teacher, but me seeing this I thought that teachers just want money to help, but then I notice that there not just doing this for money there doing it for student band, choir, chairs, music, art, class, and learning so I hope every teacher gets a raise!!!
The possessive form for they (preceding a noun) is "their" - not "there".
That is their book.
Their school is over there.
Solidarity for Oklahoma!
Does Betty Devoss' prioritizing charter school funding play a part in lower budgets for public schools for states like OK?
Viet Vo kind of. She increased funding for specialty programs for all schools like mental health and safety but has taken away securities and diverted funds to schools who make a profit off of learning like charter schools (high failure rates) and private schools ( govt investing in religion even with the seperation of church and state)
Viet Vo Yes, but our state was already doing the same before she took office. This red state thinks privatizing everything is the answer and has followed Kansas straight off a cliff. Privatization is why our prisons have to be at 90% capacity. Let that sink in.
I live in Northeast Oklahoma. They tried to get a bond passed last year or the year before to raise teacher pay. They were going to raise taxes to pay for the pay increase...when all said and done they would have negated their raise and been right back where they started. Let that sink in. These are the people educating kids. There are things that we can do. I have family members that work in public schools. A lot of money is wasted on subs (they contract temp agencies to call subs to keep up with demand) and books that have little to no changes. They recently spent 300000 for math supplement books with a license that can only be used once online. Teachers should focus on wasteful spending in their schools.
There is a pretty simple solution to creating a good teaching environment, pay teachers equal or more than administrators. That way people will compete way more than before for teaching positions. Naturally that will get us better and higher quality teachers which will then be able to raise our education standards naturally.
This teacher's need to get paid like my teacher has 10 kids and she needs more money than my other teacher at my school
Casinos were suppose to give money to the schools, what happened to that. Mary Failin is the worst!!!!
I made more than these teachers working as a janitor in Alaska in 1983. And now I make four times a much as these teachers working six hours per day. When teachers graduating from college, they can look forward to having more debt after their first thru fifth year of teaching them when they started. But move to Texas, as I believe one of the “teachers of the year” from Oklahoma did, and you get paid over $60K.
What happened to the Oklahoma casinos to help education. No more about that?.
Wait a minute didn't the governor approve a 400 million dollar budget increase for schools
Jackson Dune The Oklahoma passes funding increases for education, but never funds them. Our state budget is in the red for hundreds of millions so it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on. The last time they increased teacher pay, they didn’t fund it so schools that were already under funded were on the hook for the mandatory raises. Some had to let other personnel go in order to have the money for the increases. Small schools were hit hardest and the majority of our schools work with a skeleton crew to begin with.
WTF that teacher only makes one thousand dollars a month you could work at a fast food joint and earn more. This is a disgrace glad they are getting more money education is the future.
The trouble with these folks is that they think they are entrepreneurs and legislators. They are neither. They are not required to risk their own capital, nor are they required to make potentially life changing decisions every day. They are entry level government employees. Someone needs to tell them that, and explain the difference between the two.
So they gave them a pay raise and they continued with the walk out. wow
Tarek Arabi because in that deal their was no school funding the teacher are more concerned with funding than a raise
Tarek Arabi it only lasts a year.
Tarek Arabi everywhere that might occur . Hi from Perú
What happens when government and politicians think they are most important? Take a look.
The literacy and math competency rates are public record, they don't deserve the money they currently get.
"There are a lot of eyes on Oklahoma"...for the first time in forever (Frozen tunes)
And now want to add another job on teachers' already stacked plate: armed guard! SMH where the damn hell has America gone?
Heifer wears a Chanel necklace when talking about funding? She is completely out of touch.
It's funny that a teacher in Moscow also gets about $ 1,300 a month, that is, 50,000 - 100,000 rubles.
When I heard that us teachers don’t get paid during the vacation, i was very shocked. Is that true?
Vannesa Park Correct.
Just come to Texas like half the fucking country is.
Texan 2v chill lol don’t invite them. Our cities are full as you know. They can head to west Texas though
Or these guys could all say that they're going to vote Democrat this year and change their party administration. That will get politicians' attention right away.
My friend was protesting at this
Why are teachers so over paid??
I think teachers should be income tax exempt.
It makes me sad that teaching suddenly became a habit and not a viable career
Well my breaks over tomorrow
Teachers need the raise in tge whole country, they help raise all our bad ass children while parents work. And if you think your kids are perfect, please say no to drugs.
M M who hurt you?
M M yeah isn't the reason we work is to collect a paycheck, pay bills, food, ect.? Every individual is going to put so much into their profession. That's the real world, some people love their job, some are there for the paycheck. Maybe you should focus on yourself and not what others are doing. My point was a small majority of kids actually wanted to learn what's being taught in school, majority of students just do enough to get by, and a few others are there cause they have to be. You can't teach crap to kids who don't wanna learn anything but new features on Twitter. Funny we've never met and you assault my intelligence. what we can't just have an agree to disagree friendly talk on the UA-cam comment section. Sir or Ma'am.... You have a good day. Your momma taught you better.
Just curious: How are they able to use school buses to ride to the "long-planned school work stoppage"?
Keith Surface most school boards approved this walk out. Also not all are taking busses most are car pooling with their own cars. The school boards are standing behind their teachers
Thanks and here's where we'll most likely disagree. School Boards are there because of the students. (=No students, no school board). (No students = No Teachers). (No students = no buses). Back to my point: If I protest working conditions at a John Deere plant, I wouldn't "borrow" a company owned tractor to do my walkout. I feel all teachers, like Wal-Mart Greeters deserve higher pay & benefits, but no one twisted your arm to sign on. Lastly, don't "schmooze" your way onto a free bus ride/fuel/driver costs that was funded & contracted for the kids, to fulfill your own agenda, Good luck and my new sign will read: "KEEP PROTESTING TEACHERS OFF SCHOOL BUSES" Oh yea, isit buses or busses - I'm sure you wonder: grammarist.com/spelling/buses-busses/ Thanks and fun !
What about the students? What are they doing while the teachers are having their temper tantrums?
Wow!!
A lot of teachers just babysit the kids
Greetings from Oklahoma
Boredom off topic observation this article is probablely posted on my cellphone by someone who has not realized that the system indicating the option of remote educational learning using the internet.
Anyway as i mentioned before . Efforts to inform present and future teachers of this possibility is required.
This recycled article does not.
Y’all should cover what’s going on with Matt Bevin in KY.
Youre beautiful the true definition of incredible.
"What do we want? Better pay! When do we want it? We got it but we're gonna stay! So what do we want? I guess a better pension! When do we want it? Who cares we want attention! Oh... So now what do we want? A land rover or a hummer! Uh, when do we want it? We're just lazy waiting for students to be out for summer! That's kinda messed up. Better pay! I didn't ask what you wanted. We got it but we are here to stay! What the hell you guys are just bored and lazy. Better pay! (Sigh)"
Reduce their pensions and money that goes into their retirement. boom more money.
Teachers #1!
The sign in the thumbnail was not well written at all. Why use commas and not periods?
I am Mal-educated. But the star of this show says that her yearly income is around 15000 dollars while if you google "average oklahoma teacher annual income" you'll see that Oklahoma's minimum teacher salary ranges from $31,600 to $46,000. I believe the teacher. But is her story an outlier? just looking for insight.
Health insurance premiums are what hammer Oklahoma teachers. She pays $400-882 a month just to cover herself, and might pay as much as $1600 a month if she covers her husband and children through her plan.Teachers also pay 7% of the first $25K in salary to the pension fund, or $1750.
77% of pension contributions ($1750 per teacher plus 3% of salary from Oklahoma) to to paying pension debt. Oklahoma has received an F in pension funding. The Oklahoma teacher pension pays only $100 to $105 of the health insurance premiums for retired teachers.
The Mad Librarian Agree! My husband pays just under $700/month just to insure me.
That figure is before deductions ahe said her take home the insurance of out ridiculous that they have to pay and needs to be renigotioned to better premiums and lower deductibles, and our state taxes are high as well so after all deductions this is what is left
All students should get A's then
holy hell that's nothing.....
50K for a part time job.
They're already averaging 45-50k/year + benefits, and want another 10k..... That's ~$32/hr currently (considering the 3 months vacation), and they want that closer to $45/hr (average + benefits).... How many of the people here who are saying that they deserve a raise are earning anywhere near that amount? Do you think a teacher is doing 6x the work of a typical minimum wage employee?
The problem is the union, it doesn't allow for better teachers to get raises, so all the current teachers don't want to work harder because it gets them nothing extra. If we could pay the best teachers more, and fire the bad teachers (also not allowed by the union), THEN we would be able to improve the system and increase the quality of our teachers. Unfortunately, unions force all the employees to become "equal", mindless, drones with no ambitions. You only get promoted by seniority, and not by the quality of your work. We all know this is true, out of all the teachers in our lives, there was one, maybe two teachers that were great, and the rest were..... not so great......
whats funny is the teacher they showcase is obviously living well, nice big house, three kids and all. They could have at least showed some improvised teacher living of top-Ramon and burning trash for warmth lol
Did you not watch the video? The lady's nice house was supported by her husband. Most of them accepted the pay raise. They are protesting to increase SCHOOL FUNDING.
the average is 42k in oklahoma. what figures are you using for your calculations?
+_in my eye, I'd have no problem paying them 10x minimum, but only in a free market. I wish it were true that higher pay attracted better talent, but that doesn't apply in government. If you have talents, you go to the free market, where you can get compensated based on your abilities and not seniority. Everybody in government is there because they want to make a lot of money while not having any real abilities to offer. You won't get fired from the DMV for being too slow, in fact, you'll get into trouble for being too fast and your co-workers will hate you for making them look bad. The unions won't even allow them to raise the standards on who's qualified to be a teacher. They just want bodies. You can't get better teacher with zero accountability, even if you started out as a great teacher, you quickly learn that there's zero reason to work harder than anybody else.
your generalizing the issue Eugene. Its bigger than pay per hour. Oklahoma has the lowest wages in the nation right now. Teachers are leaving to the border states by the droves because of the massive wage difference. Its causing a huge problem here in Oklahoma along with the lack of funding for schools and other programs.
And people who voted for trump thought he would make America great again.
snake sollid what does Trump have to do with state funding, absolutely nothing this is a result of our greedy ass house reps. That refuse to fund education but continue to find prisons and jails.
Anyone notice how white washed that protest was? Lol Oklahama, gotta love it.
Alexander Castillo i saw hispanics and African Americans in the crowd, you just have to look.
Did y’all see that one black guy? I guess it’s a pretty white state.
Willie Jones come to Oklahoma then you’ll find out
Is Oklahoma 1st in the US in education? Top 10? Nope.....then get back to work. Welcome to the real world.
You can't really improve something if funds for it aren't increased. Can you make repairs to a car if don't have the money for parts?
Christopher Nau Do you get a raise at your job for poor performance?
Scott Crockett You get what you pay for. Poor wages don't attract the best people. Also teachers can't perform at their best if they have to work a second job to support themselves rather than spending more time lesson planning. Finally, they're striking mainly for more school funding, not pay raises because you can't teach well if you don't have sufficient resources to do so.
Alex education is a massive black hole in most state budgets that taxpayers rarely see a return on. You have Oklahoma and Kentucky wanting more $ but refusing to better perform.
Scott Crockett So the strong correlation between education funding and student performance when comparing between states is pure coincidence?
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Nice granite countertops in that huge house... I'm sorry what was that make-up lady talking about?
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You get what you vote for.
Enjoy.
They look well fed...