I’ve seen many many howling mistakes from other people, including living with different parents across census years, or various mismatches in brothers and sisters, I never just rely solely upon the parents, I always include their siblings, the number of times it’s filled in gaps, confirming or killing a line, but has sometimes helped me push through to the next generation back I also had subscriptions to the two main ancestry websites, plus the free ones, I’ve occasionally seen errors in names, ages even genders between them on mis transcribing various census data Edit: living and all my ancestry is in the UK 🇬🇧
Another thing to consider, especially with counties, is when was the county formed and what is/were the parent counties. I love collecting maps from various time periods to help me with locating the place as it was when my ancestor was there.
Great Job Amy. I'm putting This One in my bag of tricks. THUS being A Good Reason to include in our Research Log what files we found and what we didn't find. (Not sure about Ancestry, but I'm positive Family Search does interim file updates. So this one going in my bag of tricks too? MeThinks it's kinda late to do that after 23 years. Yeah I know I could "from not on", but I won't. WELLLL, Using your example, I Would put Marion County in the explanation. As I did for my Aunt's coroner's report where I THINK her record was 'mistakenly hidden' from public view and another report 'MAYBE' the one right after hers with gossipy smut in it is available to see. I THOUGHT I was already subscribed to you. I am now.
But UK parish registers are like in this video. UK parishes are even smaller than US counties, may have changed which UK county they were in at various times, and the exact registers that survive may be different for each parish. Even when you have tracked through any county changes for the parish, and any modern administrative changes that would have moved who subsequently had the registers archive, and thus know which county or authority would have the registers for the parish you are interested in you still have to find out which physical archive location, or which genealogy website actually makes them available for that county/authority today, and for genealogy websites also which time periods are available on the site and whether any scanning or indexing errors affect that parish (one of the parishes of my ancestors they have scanned the same register twice but uploaded it as two different registers, so that another register hasn't been scanned and online has all the wrong images and is therefore not available even though Ancestry thinks they have got it on the site, which I have told them about).
Many Irish records were destroyed in a fire in Dublin in 1922. Trying to do genealogy for Ireland pre-1922 is almost impossible. Just to make it more difficult, the church that my grandmother grew up in lost all their congregational records in a separate fire.
Hi Amy 😍 wow I’m so glad I found your page! I am absolutely obsessed with researching our family tree! But I just started and I’m learning sooo much from your videos! Thank you! I have a question…I see that my dad had a little sister on the census in 1939 but never again and I did not have an Aunt with her name. Where did she go? Did she pass away? I don’t see any records on her except on that census 😕
This was super helpful. I learned how to better evaluate the records, which will hopefully help me break through my brick wall(s). 😊 Now the trick is to remember this the next time I'm on Ancestry. Haha!
I think the most common and misleading mistake is calling a woman by her married name. Leave the surname blank until you know her maiden name. Often she names a daughter with her first name, and then you've got records mixed up. Also, be aware of step children being mislabeled with the step-dad's name.
I've noticed that both Ancestry and Familysearch will have the same database but the Familysearch will include more information. Should I use reference both sources or use just the website who owns the actual database?
@@robertpettit6619 You should cite whichever one you actually used. If you’ve used both, it doesn’t really matter - but if one has an image and the other doesn’t, cite the one with the image.
Actually, the first step is DO NOT just COPY and PASTE from other people's trees; write it down and verify. There are So Many trees on Ancestry where folks have clearly been quite lazy. I sent messages, but none corrected this very silly amd frankly hilarious mistake. I have three generations of men named after each other (grandfather, father, son). Two married women with the same first name. So the best way to ensure you have the correct one is birth year. (Tho' the middle guy went by his middle name most of his life.) However - 😂 On MANY trees on Ancestry, folks have the son married to his MOTHER (yes, listing her birth and death dates) and then 😂😂 this woman is on their trees as having Given BIRTH to not only her grandchild - but a solid TEN YEARS AFTER SHE DIED! 😂😂😂 I mean, How upon the earth do you not catch that? Ancestry even prompts you if years don't align or add up, so these folks opted to override that. Okay, so Jane #1 was great, but damn, gave birth a decade after death? That's kind of badass. So mainly, don't copy and paste. Get a notebook and handwrite it so you verify later. THEN do what's in this video. Happy hunting!
Agree, take other people’s work as a trail to check, but never take it as reliable, I’ve seen one where the woman in my family tree, according to another online source had he living with totally different parents and siblings on various census years
This would stump you: What do you do when the US goverment has no records of your grandfather, even though he served during world war 2, and in old age died in a US state in 2002, but even those records are gone? Not only that but there is someone who was using my grandfathers full name, and had also served, but not in world war 2, more recent, and not in the same department or even the same locations. And I know the name of my mothers mom but because she was adopted, who knows when or where she came from, there's no records of her either. Not even a marriage record. I only know her name from a newspaper clipping from when my mother was born. Btw, Ancestry has a ton of false information on it! Someone created my moms name on it, put some random name as her mothers name, and then has it labeled that my moms mom is a male. 🤦♀️🤦♀️ I can't tell you how many times a mother gets labeled as a male. Like how do you screw that up so badly!
I’ve run into similar problems, in fact my husbands cousin, is a member on ancestry simply because she uses the information from several trees that are private. She has permission to use that information , everything else on ancestry as far as shes concerned is non factual. She doesn’t do any research, she uses information from other people. As for me, basically I don’t believe everything I read when it’s information from others. I keep researching, order documents and keep digging, simply because people are too lazy to do the leg work. As for your grand father, is it possible that he used a different name or date of birth, check out if he used his mother’s or grand mother’s maiden name, changed his birthdate, is there any information about his death from the funeral home, whoever supplied you with his information might be hiding something. I searched for my husbands father information for year’s until I decided to search with his mothers maiden name, in fact all the children were registered in her maiden name, why? Because his grandparents never married his grandmother must have thought that it wouldn’t be legal to register them in his name. Good luck with your search.
@@Chatty_crafter I have no idea who his parents were or even his birthdate. I don't know if he was even born in the US. I was told by THE records office in St. Louis that they couldn't find anything about my grandfather. Which I find odd because his remains were taken cared of by a morgue in Juneau Alaska before his ashes were sent, by plane, back to his home state, and my mom went to pick up his ashes. The ashes went to a sibling of mine after the passing of our mother. So now the only info the records office has is 2 pieces of paper I kept after my mom passed, one is a message that was sent to my grandfather to announce the birth of my mom, and the other is a message from him to be sent back. These are not messages on a regular piece of paper, but papers used from where he was stationed at in San Francisco for the Coast Guard.
There are various people that have my dad born in the wrong place. It's basically just a spot in the road but it still has a name. Also, many people leave off the infants that die either still born or after birth. It's also easy to get sidetracked onto a different family line if there have been remarriages or the like . The census reports help to kind of verify what's going on. Also looking at birth and death dates help and verifying them.
I’ve seen many many howling mistakes from other people, including living with different parents across census years, or various mismatches in brothers and sisters, I never just rely solely upon the parents, I always include their siblings, the number of times it’s filled in gaps, confirming or killing a line, but has sometimes helped me push through to the next generation back
I also had subscriptions to the two main ancestry websites, plus the free ones, I’ve occasionally seen errors in names, ages even genders between them on mis transcribing various census data
Edit: living and all my ancestry is in the UK 🇬🇧
Another thing to consider, especially with counties, is when was the county formed and what is/were the parent counties. I love collecting maps from various time periods to help me with locating the place as it was when my ancestor was there.
Great Job Amy. I'm putting This One in my bag of tricks. THUS being A Good Reason to include in our Research Log what files we found and what we didn't find. (Not sure about Ancestry, but I'm positive Family Search does interim file updates. So this one going in my bag of tricks too? MeThinks it's kinda late to do that after 23 years. Yeah I know I could "from not on", but I won't. WELLLL, Using your example, I Would put Marion County in the explanation. As I did for my Aunt's coroner's report where I THINK her record was 'mistakenly hidden' from public view and another report 'MAYBE' the one right after hers with gossipy smut in it is available to see.
I THOUGHT I was already subscribed to you. I am now.
This was very helpful, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Thank you so much. Accuracy matters. Glad I found you.
Thank you so much Amy, incredibly helpful!! I wish I could keep you as the good Angel on my shoulder when I research 😂😂
Glad this was helpful! 😇
This was a really informative video. Thank you!
Feeling lucky to be in UK, where there’s just one BMD Register for England & Wales and another for Scotland (not sure where Northern Ireland fits).
But UK parish registers are like in this video. UK parishes are even smaller than US counties, may have changed which UK county they were in at various times, and the exact registers that survive may be different for each parish. Even when you have tracked through any county changes for the parish, and any modern administrative changes that would have moved who subsequently had the registers archive, and thus know which county or authority would have the registers for the parish you are interested in you still have to find out which physical archive location, or which genealogy website actually makes them available for that county/authority today, and for genealogy websites also which time periods are available on the site and whether any scanning or indexing errors affect that parish (one of the parishes of my ancestors they have scanned the same register twice but uploaded it as two different registers, so that another register hasn't been scanned and online has all the wrong images and is therefore not available even though Ancestry thinks they have got it on the site, which I have told them about).
Many Irish records were destroyed in a fire in Dublin in 1922. Trying to do genealogy for Ireland pre-1922 is almost impossible. Just to make it more difficult, the church that my grandmother grew up in lost all their congregational records in a separate fire.
In Ireland
Me too! I do have some missing records from when the village church holding the book of Baptisms/Marriage/Burial was destroyed.
Great video and very helpful.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Hi Amy 😍 wow I’m so glad I found your page! I am absolutely obsessed with researching our family tree! But I just started and I’m learning sooo much from your videos! Thank you! I have a question…I see that my dad had a little sister on the census in 1939 but never again and I did not have an Aunt with her name. Where did she go? Did she pass away? I don’t see any records on her except on that census 😕
This was super helpful. I learned how to better evaluate the records, which will hopefully help me break through my brick wall(s). 😊 Now the trick is to remember this the next time I'm on Ancestry. Haha!
Thank you so much. I had mistakenly thought that a collectin title was more correct and complete.
I think the most common and misleading mistake is calling a woman by her married name. Leave the surname blank until you know her maiden name. Often she names a daughter with her first name, and then you've got records mixed up. Also, be aware of step children being mislabeled with the step-dad's name.
I was recently on a file labeled "Probate" that included land and mortgage records. Probate records were only the first few pages.
Hello. I only have 10 trees showing but i know i have been invited to more. where are they. thanks
I've noticed that both Ancestry and Familysearch will have the same database but the Familysearch will include more information. Should I use reference both sources or use just the website who owns the actual database?
@@robertpettit6619 You should cite whichever one you actually used. If you’ve used both, it doesn’t really matter - but if one has an image and the other doesn’t, cite the one with the image.
Thanks
Actually, the first step is DO NOT just COPY and PASTE from other people's trees; write it down and verify.
There are So Many trees on Ancestry where folks have clearly been quite lazy. I sent messages, but none corrected this very silly amd frankly hilarious mistake.
I have three generations of men named after each other (grandfather, father, son). Two married women with the same first name. So the best way to ensure you have the correct one is birth year. (Tho' the middle guy went by his middle name most of his life.)
However - 😂
On MANY trees on Ancestry, folks have the son married to his MOTHER (yes, listing her birth and death dates) and then 😂😂 this woman is on their trees as having Given BIRTH to not only her grandchild - but a solid TEN YEARS AFTER SHE DIED!
😂😂😂
I mean, How upon the earth do you not catch that? Ancestry even prompts you if years don't align or add up, so these folks opted to override that.
Okay, so Jane #1 was great, but damn, gave birth a decade after death? That's kind of badass.
So mainly, don't copy and paste. Get a notebook and handwrite it so you verify later.
THEN do what's in this video.
Happy hunting!
Agree, take other people’s work as a trail to check, but never take it as reliable, I’ve seen one where the woman in my family tree, according to another online source had he living with totally different parents and siblings on various census years
I can't find anything before America. Records start here in the 1800s, but nothing before that in Germany Poland Russia
You can check the LDS or Romanian National records
This would stump you:
What do you do when the US goverment has no records of your grandfather, even though he served during world war 2, and in old age died in a US state in 2002, but even those records are gone?
Not only that but there is someone who was using my grandfathers full name, and had also served, but not in world war 2, more recent, and not in the same department or even the same locations. And I know the name of my mothers mom but because she was adopted, who knows when or where she came from, there's no records of her either. Not even a marriage record. I only know her name from a newspaper clipping from when my mother was born.
Btw, Ancestry has a ton of false information on it! Someone created my moms name on it, put some random name as her mothers name, and then has it labeled that my moms mom is a male. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I can't tell you how many times a mother gets labeled as a male. Like how do you screw that up so badly!
I’ve run into similar problems, in fact my husbands cousin, is a member on ancestry simply because she uses the information from several trees that are private. She has permission to use that information , everything else on ancestry as far as shes concerned is non factual. She doesn’t do any research, she uses information from other people. As for me, basically I don’t believe everything I read when it’s information from others. I keep researching, order documents and keep digging, simply because people are too lazy to do the leg work. As for your grand father, is it possible that he used a different name or date of birth, check out if he used his mother’s or grand mother’s maiden name, changed his birthdate, is there any information about his death from the funeral home, whoever supplied you with his information might be hiding something. I searched for my husbands father information for year’s until I decided to search with his mothers maiden name, in fact all the children were registered in her maiden name, why? Because his grandparents never married his grandmother must have thought that it wouldn’t be legal to register them in his name. Good luck with your search.
@@Chatty_crafter I have no idea who his parents were or even his birthdate. I don't know if he was even born in the US.
I was told by THE records office in St. Louis that they couldn't find anything about my grandfather. Which I find odd because his remains were taken cared of by a morgue in Juneau Alaska before his ashes were sent, by plane, back to his home state, and my mom went to pick up his ashes. The ashes went to a sibling of mine after the passing of our mother.
So now the only info the records office has is 2 pieces of paper I kept after my mom passed, one is a message that was sent to my grandfather to announce the birth of my mom, and the other is a message from him to be sent back. These are not messages on a regular piece of paper, but papers used from where he was stationed at in San Francisco for the Coast Guard.
There are various people that have my dad born in the wrong place. It's basically just a spot in the road but it still has a name. Also, many people leave off the infants that die either still born or after birth. It's also easy to get sidetracked onto a different family line if there have been remarriages or the like . The census reports help to kind of verify what's going on. Also looking at birth and death dates help and verifying them.
Just about to created a mud map of a family tree going back to 1723.