George Lucas' commentary on how the stormtroopers have a genetic trait from Jango Fett confirms what the movies imply that stormtroopers are clone troopers.
Nah man, clones got phased out almost entirely by the start of episode IV, there’s a really small but possible chance, that it was an old clone in that armor. Which is my headcanon
If you look closely when Jango lands on the platform, he lands on the side that gets the dent, and as he slides over his body turns to the side where he loses his rangefinder
Great video, one explanation for anyone itching about this continuity error could be that the dent pops in and out like a water bottle. And Jango can’t keep it straight haha.
this was something that always bothered me. I agree the dent happened somewhere before his jet pack flew off. I also think this was a bad way of linking it to boba's dent. I remember having andaction figure with jango fett mold in mid 2000s and it was the 3.75 figure with the magnetic removable head and that dent was more inline with Bobas dent. So as a kid i compared it to boba fett figures and figured that was the intention. Maybe the artist and designers thought it was close enough to where Bobas dent was. idk
Very conclusive. But a couple mistakes. 1. Jango was using the targeting computer in his rangefinder to target Kenobi with his missile. (Sounds horribly wrong, but couldn't think of anyway else to phrase it) The rangefinder can indeed go back like that. 2. Jango's dent is farther back than Boba's dent, and we see how Boba gets his while having a stand off with Bane in an unfinished clone wars episode. Earlier episodes the dent was gone, so I'm assuming that Boba fixed it when he claimed the armor.
Very solid analysis. I guess we can rule out Obi-Wan causing that dent. Jedi or not, the hard part of his head is still made of bones. So most likely, rather than causing a dent, Obi-Wan's head would have cracked hitting that hard against metal. You also cannot quite compare this to muttons butting heads, as a) their heads are reinforced at this spot, and b) it is bone against bone. What you said seems much more plausible to me - being an editing error in the end. But it made it even to the Hot Toys figure, having an exchangable helmet top.
The rangefinder flips back because Jango has to have his head in a certain position to be able to shoot the missile, but still has to be able to see where it is going. There is no source that disproves that his rangefinder can flip backwards
@@timewarpdrive77 In season 2 episode 21, the helmet had a bomb hidden inside it and the half of it got blown away. ua-cam.com/video/-jIu1wVRv5w/v-deo.htmlsi=k5qlWW8gujPwihG1&t=20
Another thing I don't think a lot of people noticed is that his helmet bends in slightly after being run over by the red rhino thing. It shows up when Jango fires at Mace Windu before getting killed
Wait, so if the head bump on the Slave 1 was meant to be a trait Jango had that passed onto any clones of him, is that implying the Stormtrooper who bumped his head was a clone?
@@seventyfourty I see! Looks like that clone was able to continue serving despite the phasing out of their use then I'd say I'm proud, but it is the Empire-
@@junimoony only reason they went with real people is cost effectiveness, the clones that remained were very few in numbers and expensive to make by the time of A New Hope and just dumping them which they did to a bunch would be a waste of a body that they could line up as bantha fodder
Moff Gideon: "Jango never told how he dented his helmet did he?" Boba Fett: HE TOLD ME ENOUGH! HE TOLD ME HE BANGED HIS HEAD!" Moff Gideon: 'NO BOBA, My Darktrooper used him as a pile driver!" Boba: "NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!" later that night: "Well Son, say what you want about Droids but a Darktrooper using you as a pile driver is not fun"
If you look at episode 2 picture with jango fett posed in front of clone army his helmet is intact all I know is the dent was from the fight on kamino whether it be obi wand head or the metal flooring
4:00 are you even watching the scene? it’s moving out the way of the rocket. The jango costume cant shoot flames or fly does that mean the cg model shouldn’t be able to do it?
jango fetts dent always was such a pointless detail that didnt even have any purpose, if they wanted to use it as an explanation to why boba has it then why not just put it on the rigth spot? i always ingored it and thought it wasnt canon
I think it wasn’t any of those this is how I think he got the dent on his helmet during production of the movie he accidentally banged the helmet on something else and when George Lucas saw he was like “you know what i like that we will keep that” and that’s how I think he got the dent
How would bumping his helmet cause beskar to dent. It would take an immense amount of force to cause that. It's one of those mysteries that will never be answered.
I think that the point where he got the dent was when Obi-Wan was down and he kicked Jango in the head and he fell to the ground before getting right back up to continue fighting. When you analyze where the dent is and isn’t, as good as I think they did with little details in these movies I think it got a little sloppy with the dent appearing and disappearing making it hard to tell exactly where he got it, and also having the antenna go backward when he’s on the tower, hopefully it can do that and he made it go that way for a good reason.
a more likely cannon answer is probably before episode 2 and in his from his video game when he fought montross or cammari vossa (I know I splet the name wrong)
Well unless Disney changes the Canon Boba's helmet can't be the untouched original of Jango's helmet. In the Clone Wars Boba intentionally uses his father's helmet as bait to kill Mace with a bomb that caused the helmet to split into 2 with at least 1 half surviving then being lost on the planet as he isn't seen retrieving it. It's possible that he returned later to retrieve it then melt the half down to remake the helmet but that's just me theorizing. Or he could have just gotten another Mandalorian helmet. Afterall Boba seems to have lost the shin guards too. Maybe the shin guards were melted to fix the retrieved helmet.
I don't think he had the dent at all in the fight scene with Obi Wan. It's all reflection. I have worked on multiple movies and while not this one I can tell you you are just seeing what you want to see.
Yes its the same dent because its the exact same suit of armor, its not an idea its just a fact and also you keep pointing out the back of the helmet where the dent decidedly is not
George Lucas' commentary on how the stormtroopers have a genetic trait from Jango Fett confirms what the movies imply that stormtroopers are clone troopers.
Current cannon they are not clones but I think this is what he originally intended. I wonder why he made the decision to change.
@@jacklincoln3Because he doesnt know starwars wich is quite ironic... He constantly gets his own shit wrong xD
Nah man, clones got phased out almost entirely by the start of episode IV, there’s a really small but possible chance, that it was an old clone in that armor. Which is my headcanon
@@astra1836george isn’t in charge of canon right now
@@Bluemantopvids he did stuff wrong before, he does it now. It wont change
This is like investigating a crime scene in those Batman Arkham Games.
Harvey DENT
@Dysmorphan lmao looks like you're the world's greatest detective now.
If you look closely when Jango lands on the platform, he lands on the side that gets the dent, and as he slides over his body turns to the side where he loses his rangefinder
the fact people think obi-wans skull is stronger then Beskar is WILD lol
not his skull, but his skull surrounded by the force :) Obi used force headbang. it was effective
I would guess there was only 1 cg model of Jango and it had the dent.
Great video, one explanation for anyone itching about this continuity error could be that the dent pops in and out like a water bottle. And Jango can’t keep it straight haha.
this was something that always bothered me. I agree the dent happened somewhere before his jet pack flew off. I also think this was a bad way of linking it to boba's dent. I remember having andaction figure with jango fett mold in mid 2000s and it was the 3.75 figure with the magnetic removable head and that dent was more inline with Bobas dent. So as a kid i compared it to boba fett figures and figured that was the intention. Maybe the artist and designers thought it was close enough to where Bobas dent was. idk
Boba fetts helmet is an old one of jango fetts and it in fact wasn't colored green it was green to begin with and boba fett got his dent from cadbane
Very conclusive. But a couple mistakes.
1. Jango was using the targeting computer in his rangefinder to target Kenobi with his missile. (Sounds horribly wrong, but couldn't think of anyway else to phrase it) The rangefinder can indeed go back like that.
2. Jango's dent is farther back than Boba's dent, and we see how Boba gets his while having a stand off with Bane in an unfinished clone wars episode. Earlier episodes the dent was gone, so I'm assuming that Boba fixed it when he claimed the armor.
Very solid analysis. I guess we can rule out Obi-Wan causing that dent. Jedi or not, the hard part of his head is still made of bones. So most likely, rather than causing a dent, Obi-Wan's head would have cracked hitting that hard against metal. You also cannot quite compare this to muttons butting heads, as a) their heads are reinforced at this spot, and b) it is bone against bone.
What you said seems much more plausible to me - being an editing error in the end. But it made it even to the Hot Toys figure, having an exchangable helmet top.
I can't believe I found someone who is as much of a fan of Jango Fett as I am.
Thought it was when he banged his head on the Slave 1 door during the Kamino escape
The rangefinder flips back because Jango has to have his head in a certain position to be able to shoot the missile, but still has to be able to see where it is going. There is no source that disproves that his rangefinder can flip backwards
Bobas dent would have happened post green paint job based on the damage to the paint.
8:34 Jango's helmet exploded in the episode where Boba tried to kill Mace, so it's not the same helmet Boba wore in the OG trilogy
Yes
No it didn't; tf are you on about?
He probably fixed it.
@@timewarpdrive77 In season 2 episode 21, the helmet had a bomb hidden inside it and the half of it got blown away.
ua-cam.com/video/-jIu1wVRv5w/v-deo.htmlsi=k5qlWW8gujPwihG1&t=20
@@timewarpdrive77 In season 2 episode 21, Boba hid a bomb inside the helmet and half of it blew away.
Another thing I don't think a lot of people noticed is that his helmet bends in slightly after being run over by the red rhino thing. It shows up when Jango fires at Mace Windu before getting killed
Let’s be honest, the props department dropped the ball-or should I say helmet-and that’s why we have the dent. As for canon… idk.
i love that art at 0:16
the Fetts been slimming
Wait, so if the head bump on the Slave 1 was meant to be a trait Jango had that passed onto any clones of him, is that implying the Stormtrooper who bumped his head was a clone?
To a lot of people that would be a yes
@@seventyfourty I see! Looks like that clone was able to continue serving despite the phasing out of their use then
I'd say I'm proud, but it is the Empire-
@@junimoony only reason they went with real people is cost effectiveness, the clones that remained were very few in numbers and expensive to make by the time of A New Hope and just dumping them which they did to a bunch would be a waste of a body that they could line up as bantha fodder
@@seventyfourty True that
Awesome video
Moff Gideon: "Jango never told how he dented his helmet did he?"
Boba Fett: HE TOLD ME ENOUGH! HE TOLD ME HE BANGED HIS HEAD!"
Moff Gideon: 'NO BOBA, My Darktrooper used him as a pile driver!"
Boba: "NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"
later that night: "Well Son, say what you want about Droids but a Darktrooper using you as a pile driver is not fun"
It was when he head butted Kenobi. The dent is not visable in the scene before it but in every shot after it.
If you look at episode 2 picture with jango fett posed in front of clone army his helmet is intact all I know is the dent was from the fight on kamino whether it be obi wand head or the metal flooring
4:00 are you even watching the scene? it’s moving out the way of the rocket. The jango costume cant shoot flames or fly does that mean the cg model shouldn’t be able to do it?
jango fetts dent always was such a pointless detail that didnt even have any purpose, if they wanted to use it as an explanation to why boba has it then why not just put it on the rigth spot? i always ingored it and thought it wasnt canon
I think it wasn’t any of those this is how I think he got the dent on his helmet during production of the movie he accidentally banged the helmet on something else and when George Lucas saw he was like “you know what i like that we will keep that” and that’s how I think he got the dent
I’m just going to say obi-wan had a force field of some sort and dented Jango helmet when he head butted him 😅
I think that to most force users apply the force to enhance hits like that.
How would bumping his helmet cause beskar to dent. It would take an immense amount of force to cause that. It's one of those mysteries that will never be answered.
Yea i think some people are underestimating how tough his armor is
I really just watched a 9 min video about a dent on jango fetts helmet 💀
I think that the point where he got the dent was when Obi-Wan was down and he kicked Jango in the head and he fell to the ground before getting right back up to continue fighting. When you analyze where the dent is and isn’t, as good as I think they did with little details in these movies I think it got a little sloppy with the dent appearing and disappearing making it hard to tell exactly where he got it, and also having the antenna go backward when he’s on the tower, hopefully it can do that and he made it go that way for a good reason.
a more likely cannon answer is probably before episode 2 and in his from his video game when he fought montross or cammari vossa (I know I splet the name wrong)
Well unless Disney changes the Canon Boba's helmet can't be the untouched original of Jango's helmet. In the Clone Wars Boba intentionally uses his father's helmet as bait to kill Mace with a bomb that caused the helmet to split into 2 with at least 1 half surviving then being lost on the planet as he isn't seen retrieving it.
It's possible that he returned later to retrieve it then melt the half down to remake the helmet but that's just me theorizing. Or he could have just gotten another Mandalorian helmet. Afterall Boba seems to have lost the shin guards too. Maybe the shin guards were melted to fix the retrieved helmet.
I don't think he had the dent at all in the fight scene with Obi Wan. It's all reflection. I have worked on multiple movies and while not this one I can tell you you are just seeing what you want to see.
I hate to see my two favorite characters fight!
Yes its the same dent because its the exact same suit of armor, its not an idea its just a fact and also you keep pointing out the back of the helmet where the dent decidedly is not
It’s 100% not the same suit Boba has. The helmet was destroyed during the clone wars when Boba blew it up in a failed attempt to kill Windu
I would say the Jetpack caused it
I think this guy's a fan of Jango fett
How his helmet got dent?
Simple. he got it from a bang while rushing into his ship slave 1.
Haha George Lucas 😂
i never noticed jango had a helmet dent
When I was a kiddo I had a jango helmet and I always wondered about the dent!
@@theragingrodent__ i really never noticed! i had a few jango fett action figures the old cool 3.75 figs and i don’t think they had the dents!
Phantom dent
Just a little nitpick, head butting with the crown is the correct way to headbutt someone. Using the forehead is a surefire way to k.o. yourself
Im part clone
Hitting his head on slave one is possible however denting the helmet from that isn't.