I would like to spread a little awareness about this film, which I feel is not very familiar to Western audiences. (Historical note in video description). If you like Asian historical/war movies, I would also like to recommend God of War (2017), The Admiral: Roaring Currents (2014) and of course one of my favorite historical films Red Cliff (2008) by the legendary John Woo. What other historical movies do you like?
The Battle of Mount Jupil was a battle between Tang Chinese and Goguryeo Korean forces that took place in Mount Jupil at the south of the fortress city of Ansi. It took place on July 11, 645 AD. The small but elite Tang army wiped out the Goguryeo relief force trying to come to bolster the defenses of Ansi, achieving a major victory.
The Korean cataphracts, 'Gaema Musa' were the elite warriors of the ancient Korean kingdom of Goguryeo. The movie depicted them well, so it's awesome :)
Unfortunately, the equipment (arms and armor) is very inaccurate. The Tang Dynasty and the Goguryeo kingdom were both using mostly lamellar (and to a lesser extent) scale armor, and should have been using similar equipment. The Tang Dynasty soldiers were heavily armored in reality, but are inaccurately portrayed as very poorly armored in this movie. The actual Battle of Mount Jupil involved a smaller well equipped Tang army defeating a much larger and also well equipped Gogureyo army that was 4-5x larger, but this movie seems to portray a huge poorly equipped Tang army fighting against a small well equipped Korean army.
The Tang used a similar approach akin to Alexander the Great,infantry pinning the enemy while a cavalry will attack them by surprise from the rear.Hammer and Anvil.Thus the Tang Chinese victory.
*Description of the battle between the Ancient kingdom 'Goguryeo VS Tang dynasty' appeared in the Old Book of Tang(舊唐書) and Samguk sagi(三國史記), approximately recorded until Tang military organization during that age but it shorts for specific description.* Of course, Both sides mobilized troops of over 100 thousand in the battle from Wikipedia, and that's unreliable figures information in Ancient East Asian historical Records. Even 700 years passed, the scale of a military coup against the Goryeo Govt by General 'Lee Seong-gye led, it only thirty-eight thousand. And the Battle of Sarhu, thousands of years passed, with a smaller mobilization scale compared to the Battle of Mount Jupil(駐蹕山 戰鬪). The problem of East Asia’s uniquely weird records should be approached with caution.
Archer bow arrow with fire......it's more dramatic as the cavalry depends on horse. Ground troops should have arrow with fire. It will burn. Anyway, good movie.
Nope, there were no Mongols yet. Those horse-archers were probably Turks commanded by Qibi Heli & Ashina She'er. The combat calvary unit were elite soldiers commanded by Zhangsun Wuji (Zhangsun himself was more like a strategist instead of fighter, but he commanded generals like Niu Jinda, Xue Rengui, and so on).
Description of the battle from Wikipedia: The Battle of Mount Jupil, was a battle between Tang Chinese and Goguryeo Korean forces that took place in Mount Jupil at the south of the fortress city of Ansi. It took place on July 11, 645 AD. The small but elite Tang army wiped out the Goguryeo relief force trying to come to bolster the defenses of Ansi, achieving a major victory. The battle was joined on 23 June when one of the Goguryeo generals, Go Yeon-su, sighted that the Tang army was seemingly smaller and had its lines thinly held. With this, he decided to attack with the cavalry and attempt to dislodge the large Tang army in front of his army. What he did not know is that it was actually a ploy by the Emperor Taizong to lure the Goguryeo army into a trap as earlier planned by his subordinates. The Goguryeo cavalry led by Go Yeon-su charged across the plain dominating the battlefield at the foot of Jupil Mountain just south of Ansi, towards the Tang infantry that was awaiting them in a shield wall formation. The other general, Go Hye-jin, followed suit and also joined the attack. Despite mass projectile shots from archers, crossbowmen and catapults just within the Tang formation, the cavalry charge kept up its momentum until it finally impacted the shield wall, causing many Tang casualties in the process as the cavalry charged across. But it soon came as a shock for both generals that behind the long shield wall of the Tang army were massive and dense amounts of infantry with Emperor Taizong and his entourage far behind observing the scene, and yet despite it they continued the assault on the Tang army. The massive Tang battle line thus slowly developed from a straight line into a U-shaped formation as its army purposefully gave way to the Goguryeo attack, giving the Goguryeo a false sense of victory at this stage. When Emperor Taizong finally deemed the time right to spring his trap, he ordered to sound the drums and horns to signal the flanking attack by Zhangsun Wuji and other generals with an 11,000-strong cavalry detachment from behind hidden in a hill north of Mount Jupil until now. In what seemed to be a Cannae-like event, the Tang cavalry finally closed in into the rear of the Goguryeo cavalry, hitting it through its rear. The Tang army started pushing and tightening the encirclement even as the two Goguryeo generals tried to rally their men to fight on, but the one-sided mass slaughter continued. Seeing that they could not salvage the situation, the two Goguryeo generals tried as best as they could to get what was left of their force out of the encirclement to rejoin the main body of their army across the river to the south, but 30,000 of their men were killed trying to do so. Worse came when they found out that the bridges in the river that leads them back to the main body of their army were already torn down by the Tang commander Zhangsun Wuji under orders from Emperor Taizong who already foresaw the event. Finding no other way to rejoin the main body of their army, the two generals rallied whatever remained of their force northwards to the peak of Mount Jupil with the Tang army in hot pursuit. The Tang army then caught up and encircled the remaining Goguryeo force atop Mount Jupil once again. In an attempt to save their beleaguered comrades atop Mount Jupil, the main body of the Goguryeo army finally joined the battle by fording the river and attacked the Tang army. However, they soon found themselves counterattacked on three sides by the Tang army, having failed to reach their comrades atop the mountain. Seeing that all was lost, Go Yeon-su and Go Hye-jin surrendered what remained of their command that was stranded atop the mountain, now reduced to just 3,800 wounded and famished men. What remained of the Goguryeo army that had not yet surrendered, that is, the force that tried to save their comrades atop Mount Jupil but failed, is now also subjected by attacks of the Tang army on three sides, pummeling it into a pulp until they finally retreated and dispersed southwards, only to be chased down by the pursuing Tang army with most of them dead during the chase and captured 33,000 Goguryeo soldiers prisoner. Among these, the Tang forces sent 3,500 officers and chieftains back to China, executed 3,300 Mohe troops, and eventually released the rest of the ordinary Goguryeo soldiers. As part of the war spoils taken from the enemy, the Tang army captured from the vanquished Goguryeo army 50,000 horses, 50,000 cows, and 10,000 metal body armor.
당신 말대로라면 아주 훌륭한 전략가인? 당주 이세민이가 유리한 위치에서 안시성을 함락 못 시킨 이유가 무엇일까요? 항상 궁금해서 물어봐도 누구 하나 시원하게 답을 주지 않으니 답답할 뿐이라오. 당신이 중원의 민족이라면 당신들이 알고 있는 지식을 좀 가르쳐 주시오. 소수정예로 수나라 백만이 이루지 못한 고구려 10성을 뺏는것도 대단하고 그 10성을 지키지도 못하고 철군길에 요택에서 당주의 위엄이 땅에 떨어진 이유는 무엇이오?
One thing for sure seeing this massacre that the invention capacity of Mankind in finding ways to kill each-other was always on the top. That is the situation as of today too!
Wow, very fast. Thanks to accept my advice. Infact all actors of the movie are koreans. Chinese side speaks chinese, Korean side speaks Korean. I cannot speak chinese, but even I can notice that chinese accents are not good. 😂
Unfortunately, the equipment (arms and armor) is very inaccurate. The Tang Dynasty and the Goguryeo kingdom were both using mostly lamellar (and to a lesser extent) scale armor, and should have been using similar equipment. The Tang Dynasty soldiers were heavily armored in reality, but are inaccurately portrayed as very poorly armored in this movie. The actual Battle of Mount Jupil involved a smaller well equipped Tang army defeating a much larger and also well equipped Gogureyo army that was 4-5x larger, but this movie seems to portray a huge poorly equipped Tang army fighting against a small well equipped Korean army.
I love it when armor provides absolutely zero protection to its wearer in film 😂 Fuckin heroes just cut straight through it like paper… At this point why wear it???
That is how the battle of LOTR battle should have been decided without the added ghost army had the Orcs being reinforced by mounted troops in addition to the war elephants. But. plot armor was deciding factor in that battle.
I disagree with that sentiment. I mean, the Army of Oathbreakers didn't really do all that much in the book besides killing a pirate fleet that was going to join the forces of Mordor, so I think them coming and turning the tide was a completely ok change.
@@motivationontop6587 Firstly. they were only in the Return of the King. Secondly. No they didn't. I just think that the book purists need to stop complaining about the movies using something that was barely there in the books.
Back then, Northeast Asia countries such as Korea, China, Japan already produced huge amount of crops and achieved economies of scale that European countries could not. That's why Korea, China, Japan could build and maintain large strong military force.. as they still do today. If you study the war hisotry of Northeast Asia and Europe, You will find out that Northeast Asian countries mobilized much larger armies than European countries did.
I would like to spread a little awareness about this film, which I feel is not very familiar to Western audiences.
(Historical note in video description).
If you like Asian historical/war movies, I would also like to recommend God of War (2017), The Admiral: Roaring Currents (2014) and of course one of my favorite historical films Red Cliff (2008) by the legendary John Woo.
What other historical movies do you like?
Red Cliff is art
@@aitorsanchezrodriguez1789 It is! :)
Red cliff
I recommand "hwang san beol" 황산벌 Korean movie
The Battle of Mount Jupil was a battle between Tang Chinese and Goguryeo Korean forces that took place in Mount Jupil at the south of the fortress city of Ansi. It took place on July 11, 645 AD. The small but elite Tang army wiped out the Goguryeo relief force trying to come to bolster the defenses of Ansi, achieving a major victory.
Korea vs china
The Korean cataphracts, 'Gaema Musa' were the elite warriors of the ancient Korean kingdom of Goguryeo. The movie depicted them well, so it's awesome :)
Unfortunately, the equipment (arms and armor) is very inaccurate. The Tang Dynasty and the Goguryeo kingdom were both using mostly lamellar (and to a lesser extent) scale armor, and should have been using similar equipment. The Tang Dynasty soldiers were heavily armored in reality, but are inaccurately portrayed as very poorly armored in this movie. The actual Battle of Mount Jupil involved a smaller well equipped Tang army defeating a much larger and also well equipped Gogureyo army that was 4-5x larger, but this movie seems to portray a huge poorly equipped Tang army fighting against a small well equipped Korean army.
The Great Battle
It reminds me of the Lord of the Rings Rohan cavalry unit.
Also Cataphracts
The Tang used a similar approach akin to Alexander the Great,infantry pinning the enemy while a cavalry will attack them by surprise from the rear.Hammer and Anvil.Thus the Tang Chinese victory.
No. Macedonians would maintain formation, Tang in this battle basickly made U formations sucking in Korean troops.
This is awesome! I love to see your Asherion Knights charge charge a line!
ahhh you recognized it!!!! :D
@@merullaart How could I not! Its amazing my friend!
@@jarrodschleutker3978 Why are you so cooool!?
@@merullaart Thank you my friend!
Movie name please
Ansisung / The Great Battle (2018), it is in the video title and description. ;)
The movie is sucks....
Y@@kvkim7041
hahaha they were using cgi character
*Description of the battle between the Ancient kingdom 'Goguryeo VS Tang dynasty' appeared in the Old Book of Tang(舊唐書) and Samguk sagi(三國史記), approximately recorded until Tang military organization during that age but it shorts for specific description.* Of course, Both sides mobilized troops of over 100 thousand in the battle from Wikipedia, and that's unreliable figures information in Ancient East Asian historical Records. Even 700 years passed, the scale of a military coup against the Goryeo Govt by General 'Lee Seong-gye led, it only thirty-eight thousand. And the Battle of Sarhu, thousands of years passed, with a smaller mobilization scale compared to the Battle of Mount Jupil(駐蹕山 戰鬪). The problem of East Asia’s uniquely weird records should be approached with caution.
Back arrow
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Archer bow arrow with fire......it's more dramatic as the cavalry depends on horse. Ground troops should have arrow with fire. It will burn. Anyway, good movie.
The last horse soldiers on strike are Mongolians
Nope, there were no Mongols yet. Those horse-archers were probably Turks commanded by Qibi Heli & Ashina She'er. The combat calvary unit were elite soldiers commanded by Zhangsun Wuji (Zhangsun himself was more like a strategist instead of fighter, but he commanded generals like Niu Jinda, Xue Rengui, and so on).
这盔甲乱做，两边的都不对
너무 고대자료라 어쩔 수 없나 봅니다 😅
👍
Korean they all look alike 😂
You too asshole. - From Korea
Los caballos nunca cargan firectamente contra objetos puestos enfrente de ellos si no ven una salida tras los objetos.
Description of the battle from Wikipedia:
The Battle of Mount Jupil, was a battle between Tang Chinese and Goguryeo Korean forces that took place in Mount Jupil at the south of the fortress city of Ansi. It took place on July 11, 645 AD. The small but elite Tang army wiped out the Goguryeo relief force trying to come to bolster the defenses of Ansi, achieving a major victory.
The battle was joined on 23 June when one of the Goguryeo generals, Go Yeon-su, sighted that the Tang army was seemingly smaller and had its lines thinly held. With this, he decided to attack with the cavalry and attempt to dislodge the large Tang army in front of his army. What he did not know is that it was actually a ploy by the Emperor Taizong to lure the Goguryeo army into a trap as earlier planned by his subordinates. The Goguryeo cavalry led by Go Yeon-su charged across the plain dominating the battlefield at the foot of Jupil Mountain just south of Ansi, towards the Tang infantry that was awaiting them in a shield wall formation. The other general, Go Hye-jin, followed suit and also joined the attack. Despite mass projectile shots from archers, crossbowmen and catapults just within the Tang formation, the cavalry charge kept up its momentum until it finally impacted the shield wall, causing many Tang casualties in the process as the cavalry charged across. But it soon came as a shock for both generals that behind the long shield wall of the Tang army were massive and dense amounts of infantry with Emperor Taizong and his entourage far behind observing the scene, and yet despite it they continued the assault on the Tang army. The massive Tang battle line thus slowly developed from a straight line into a U-shaped formation as its army purposefully gave way to the Goguryeo attack, giving the Goguryeo a false sense of victory at this stage.
When Emperor Taizong finally deemed the time right to spring his trap, he ordered to sound the drums and horns to signal the flanking attack by Zhangsun Wuji and other generals with an 11,000-strong cavalry detachment from behind hidden in a hill north of Mount Jupil until now. In what seemed to be a Cannae-like event, the Tang cavalry finally closed in into the rear of the Goguryeo cavalry, hitting it through its rear. The Tang army started pushing and tightening the encirclement even as the two Goguryeo generals tried to rally their men to fight on, but the one-sided mass slaughter continued. Seeing that they could not salvage the situation, the two Goguryeo generals tried as best as they could to get what was left of their force out of the encirclement to rejoin the main body of their army across the river to the south, but 30,000 of their men were killed trying to do so. Worse came when they found out that the bridges in the river that leads them back to the main body of their army were already torn down by the Tang commander Zhangsun Wuji under orders from Emperor Taizong who already foresaw the event. Finding no other way to rejoin the main body of their army, the two generals rallied whatever remained of their force northwards to the peak of Mount Jupil with the Tang army in hot pursuit. The Tang army then caught up and encircled the remaining Goguryeo force atop Mount Jupil once again. In an attempt to save their beleaguered comrades atop Mount Jupil, the main body of the Goguryeo army finally joined the battle by fording the river and attacked the Tang army. However, they soon found themselves counterattacked on three sides by the Tang army, having failed to reach their comrades atop the mountain.
Seeing that all was lost, Go Yeon-su and Go Hye-jin surrendered what remained of their command that was stranded atop the mountain, now reduced to just 3,800 wounded and famished men. What remained of the Goguryeo army that had not yet surrendered, that is, the force that tried to save their comrades atop Mount Jupil but failed, is now also subjected by attacks of the Tang army on three sides, pummeling it into a pulp until they finally retreated and dispersed southwards, only to be chased down by the pursuing Tang army with most of them dead during the chase and captured 33,000 Goguryeo soldiers prisoner. Among these, the Tang forces sent 3,500 officers and chieftains back to China, executed 3,300 Mohe troops, and eventually released the rest of the ordinary Goguryeo soldiers. As part of the war spoils taken from the enemy, the Tang army captured from the vanquished Goguryeo army 50,000 horses, 50,000 cows, and 10,000 metal body armor.
당신 말대로라면 아주 훌륭한 전략가인? 당주 이세민이가 유리한 위치에서 안시성을 함락 못 시킨 이유가 무엇일까요? 항상 궁금해서 물어봐도 누구 하나 시원하게 답을 주지 않으니 답답할 뿐이라오. 당신이 중원의 민족이라면 당신들이 알고 있는 지식을 좀 가르쳐 주시오. 소수정예로 수나라 백만이 이루지 못한 고구려 10성을 뺏는것도 대단하고 그 10성을 지키지도 못하고 철군길에 요택에서 당주의 위엄이 땅에 떨어진 이유는 무엇이오?
One thing for sure seeing this massacre that the invention capacity of Mankind in finding ways to kill each-other was always on the top. That is the situation as of today too!
lol korean movies making armour work XD hollywood should take some notes
It is Korean movie. My personal Idea, Korea make history based movie very poor. But getting improved.
@@kvkim7041 fixed
Wow, very fast. Thanks to accept my advice. Infact all actors of the movie are koreans. Chinese side speaks chinese, Korean side speaks Korean. I cannot speak chinese, but even I can notice that chinese accents are not good. 😂
Unfortunately, the equipment (arms and armor) is very inaccurate. The Tang Dynasty and the Goguryeo kingdom were both using mostly lamellar (and to a lesser extent) scale armor, and should have been using similar equipment. The Tang Dynasty soldiers were heavily armored in reality, but are inaccurately portrayed as very poorly armored in this movie. The actual Battle of Mount Jupil involved a smaller well equipped Tang army defeating a much larger and also well equipped Gogureyo army that was 4-5x larger, but this movie seems to portray a huge poorly equipped Tang army fighting against a small well equipped Korean army.
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How about changing the title to Korea vs China or Korea's Goguryeo vs China's Tang Dynasty?
Kinda makes it sound vague and doesn’t provide much information on what battle it represents.
Which country is the movie from?
Korea(Goguryeo 고구려) VS China(Tang Dynasty 당나라) ㅡ The film was produced and released in South Korea
Great Battle (2018)
Can you upload korea-khitan war as well?
I love it when armor provides absolutely zero protection to its wearer in film 😂
Fuckin heroes just cut straight through it like paper…
At this point why wear it???
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I'm win
Млб
Какая же это херня 😂😂😂
bylat
That is how the battle of LOTR battle should have been decided without the added ghost army had the Orcs being reinforced by mounted troops in addition to the war elephants. But. plot armor was deciding factor in that battle.
Come on, this battle looks cheap as fock.
I disagree with that sentiment.
I mean, the Army of Oathbreakers didn't really do all that much in the book besides killing a pirate fleet that was going to join the forces of Mordor, so I think them coming and turning the tide was a completely ok change.
The ghost ruined everything in the lord of the ring
@@motivationontop6587
Firstly. they were only in the Return of the King.
Secondly. No they didn't.
I just think that the book purists need to stop complaining about the movies using something that was barely there in the books.
That's how they made it look crowded but the thing is it makes it look cheap. Can't pay enough person to replicate real war scenes.
How did they feed that size of army with large cavalry and heavy armoires? Very inaccurate indeed.
Back then, Northeast Asia countries such as Korea, China, Japan already produced huge amount of crops and achieved economies of scale that European countries could not. That's why Korea, China, Japan could build and maintain large strong military force.. as they still do today.
If you study the war hisotry of Northeast Asia and Europe, You will find out that Northeast Asian countries mobilized much larger armies than European countries did.
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