Good test, good job Jackie, you didn't talk about the fact that the blades and blade-like (less offset) clubs were all favoring a push, fade, or slice tendency, accuracy is by far the most important aspect of irons period. Distance without accuracy is worthless.
I am very happy with this comparision of these Taylormade clubs. But what I missed in the comment was the importance of more spin of the P.770 compared to the P.790. As you always mention during tests. Th ball should not roll out too much. Am I right?
As a new golfer and senior (but athletic), my swing speed with driver is around 77-82 mph. I have a starter set of clubs with senior flex graphite shafts, but upgraded to an M2 driver with a 56 gram regular shaft. My handicap (scoring factor) is currently at 22.3, and I am consistently shooting in the 90s. So this video is perfect for me. I needed to see someone with my swing speed test clubs. Thanks! Rafa
I was a poor ball striker but I have high swing speed. When I bought a game improvement iron my game got worse. I couldn't control my distance and all the irons went too far. My PW went 160 yards leaving me only my wedges inside of 160. I called BS on the game improvement irons and went to the complete opposite with blades. All of a sudden I had options inside of 160 and I found they were MORE consistent than the game improvement irons even on mishits. These game improvement irons absolutely get the ball higher, but they're NOT more forgiving on mishits. If you have high swing speed, don't buy game improvement irons. Instead get irons that flight a bit lower and have higher lofts so you're not hitting PW too far.
Good stuff, Eric! Interesting that you did not experience more forgiveness with game-improvement irons. But as we say so often, every golfer is different! Glad you found some irons that work for you!
@@2ndswing I think it's more of a different definition of forgiveness. What is forgiveness? Is it the ability to launch high? Is it high speed from the center of the club face? Is it a consistent feel on mishits? Is it consistent speed off the face? Is it consistent spin off the club face? I feel like reviews lump all that into the term "forgiveness." But those are all different things. And blades are very consistent with distance because they have consistent spin and speed even with mishits. That's the "forgiveness" I was looking for but without telling us your definition of forgiveness when reviewing a club I don't know what you're talking about when you say it's a forgiving club.
I’m in the same boat as you. As much as I enjoy seeing Jackie and the content here, I really can’t use her data for a fair comparison bc my swing speed is so much faster than hers. As much as I enjoy my game improvement irons, it’s time to move up to something with more shot shaping ability, fortunately there’s a lot of options before going full blade.
Did she have 16 yards roll w 790? Low launching bullet balls may not mean close to pins? Here in AZ I cant see that low spin working? I can get a bit chunky with wide soles and love look 790 but the low spin is scary, hmmm...
Hi Mat, thanks for watching and for your question! We would still recommend a game-improvement iron to perform on off-center hits. However, since you do have a high club speed, you likely don't need extra distance. The PING G425 irons with retro specs offer the new forgiveness properties in weaker lofts. Otherwise, if you are a high spin player, the players-distance iron category could be good as well. The only concern is that distance can be harder to control sometimes with the hollow build of these types of irons.
Excellent video. It was great to see Jackie hit the clubs, as her swing speed is probably closer to that of the majority of older men, who are buying the game improvement clubs. It was interesting to note that the slower swing speed doen't only impact distance, but it also results in a much flatter trajectory, leading to less steep landing angles. Combing that factor with the reduced spin that the slower club head speed also generates, leads to longer roll out on the greens.
Thanks for watching!! We just used TaylorMade's irons as an example to showcase the different categories. Each manufacturer has iron offering that fall into each of the categories discussed in the video.
Good test, good job Jackie, you didn't talk about the fact that the blades and blade-like (less offset) clubs were all favoring a push, fade, or slice tendency, accuracy is by far the most important aspect of irons period. Distance without accuracy is worthless.
Thanks for watching!! Great point. The push for distance is nothing without accuracy. That lack of offset is a key piece to pay attention to
Great to see Jackie back on the channel. Very informative video. I'm a high handicapper so great to see this relevant content.
Thank you for watching!
I am very happy with this comparision of these Taylormade clubs. But what I missed in the comment was the importance of more spin of the P.770 compared to the P.790. As you always mention during tests. Th ball should not roll out too much. Am I right?
As a new golfer and senior (but athletic), my swing speed with driver is around 77-82 mph. I have a starter set of clubs with senior flex graphite shafts, but upgraded to an M2 driver with a 56 gram regular shaft. My handicap (scoring factor) is currently at 22.3, and I am consistently shooting in the 90s. So this video is perfect for me. I needed to see someone with my swing speed test clubs. Thanks!
Rafa
Thanks for watching! Playing the right category is important and you will benefit a lot from the more forgiving option as a new golfer - Thomas
I was a poor ball striker but I have high swing speed. When I bought a game improvement iron my game got worse. I couldn't control my distance and all the irons went too far. My PW went 160 yards leaving me only my wedges inside of 160.
I called BS on the game improvement irons and went to the complete opposite with blades. All of a sudden I had options inside of 160 and I found they were MORE consistent than the game improvement irons even on mishits. These game improvement irons absolutely get the ball higher, but they're NOT more forgiving on mishits. If you have high swing speed, don't buy game improvement irons. Instead get irons that flight a bit lower and have higher lofts so you're not hitting PW too far.
Good stuff, Eric! Interesting that you did not experience more forgiveness with game-improvement irons. But as we say so often, every golfer is different! Glad you found some irons that work for you!
@@2ndswing I think it's more of a different definition of forgiveness. What is forgiveness? Is it the ability to launch high? Is it high speed from the center of the club face? Is it a consistent feel on mishits? Is it consistent speed off the face? Is it consistent spin off the club face? I feel like reviews lump all that into the term "forgiveness." But those are all different things. And blades are very consistent with distance because they have consistent spin and speed even with mishits. That's the "forgiveness" I was looking for but without telling us your definition of forgiveness when reviewing a club I don't know what you're talking about when you say it's a forgiving club.
I’m in the same boat as you. As much as I enjoy seeing Jackie and the content here, I really can’t use her data for a fair comparison bc my swing speed is so much faster than hers. As much as I enjoy my game improvement irons, it’s time to move up to something with more shot shaping ability, fortunately there’s a lot of options before going full blade.
Did she have 16 yards roll w 790? Low launching bullet balls may not mean close to pins? Here in AZ I cant see that low spin working? I can get a bit chunky with wide soles and love look 790 but the low spin is scary, hmmm...
Great video! Looking at your test i'm really happy i ordered P790 instead of the P770. I need the forgiveness but also need that distance :) Thanks!
Thanks for watching!! P790s always perform super well for us, especially when it comes to distance
I’m currently a 4.... one thing I’ve learned is game the most forgiving iron you can stay to look at! 😂😂😂
We say the same thing to some of the golfers we fit!!
What shaft was used?
How bad where the miss hits for the sim max 2
What type of irons would you recommend for someone who has a high swing speed but doesn't hit the center of the club face consistently?
P790 cause the sim2 irons will go wayyyy too far if u connect but the p790 will give u distance and some forgiveness
@@carterdelmore4725 thank you
Hi Mat, thanks for watching and for your question! We would still recommend a game-improvement iron to perform on off-center hits. However, since you do have a high club speed, you likely don't need extra distance. The PING G425 irons with retro specs offer the new forgiveness properties in weaker lofts. Otherwise, if you are a high spin player, the players-distance iron category could be good as well. The only concern is that distance can be harder to control sometimes with the hollow build of these types of irons.
@@2ndswing thanks much! I currently play rsi2 and hit them fairly well. Are there any more recent irons that are similar in profile, forgiveness, etc?
@@carterdelmore4725p790 will be way too much distance
Excellent video. It was great to see Jackie hit the clubs, as her swing speed is probably closer to that of the majority of older men, who are buying the game improvement clubs. It was interesting to note that the slower swing speed doen't only impact distance, but it also results in a much flatter trajectory, leading to less steep landing angles. Combing that factor with the reduced spin that the slower club head speed also generates, leads to longer roll out on the greens.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for watching!
Title should have been “what Taylor Made iron is right for you”
Thanks for watching!! We just used TaylorMade's irons as an example to showcase the different categories. Each manufacturer has iron offering that fall into each of the categories discussed in the video.
@@2ndswing great series of vids. Mon 26 April I have a 9:00 am fitting at the Wilmington, De location.
@@robertmeyers7907 I just had a fitting there with James Robinson. Great experience!