WHY THE 190E IS SO IMPORTANT

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2024
  • This is why the 190E 2.3 is one of the most important cars in Mercedes Benz history and arguably one of the greatest cars ever made!
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  • @peterarsenault2671
    @peterarsenault2671 3 роки тому +17

    I only have a Sportline Japan spec automatic 2.0 here in Canada, but all 190e cars share the same "look" and yes they are incredibly balanced. The Sportline sits low like the Cosworth with a quick steering box, rims and seats only 4 passengers minus the power, extra handling and rarity. In my opinion they are beautiful cars. I'm fortunate to have found a rust free 91. A keeper.
    Thanks for the Video. Good job.

    • @manbiteslife3110
      @manbiteslife3110 Рік тому

      Should I opt for a Sportline Edition? I am looking to buy one 190e right now. Any issues that need to be looked? And are parts available and what's the worst case scenario?

    • @peterarsenault2671
      @peterarsenault2671 Рік тому +1

      @@manbiteslife3110 Sportline edition are harder to find. Sure, if you could find a good one you'd be better off l think.
      They do drive a little stiffer than the regular "sedan" version, so if you prefer a smoother ride the Sportline may not be exactly what you want.
      Rust is the biggest issue for any vehicle so always look for rust that's gone too far, especially cars that are winter driven where they salt the roads.
      The parts for these cars are readily available and the aren't a nightmare to work on like I've been told by people who've never owned or know anything about them.
      They are legendary vehicle that have alot to offer and those who know that own one or want one.
      Shop around for one that was taken care of like mine and never winter driven or at least extremely rust free.

    • @manbiteslife3110
      @manbiteslife3110 Рік тому +1

      @@peterarsenault2671 Thank you. Thankfully the weather in Gr is very good, so rarely the roads are salted, but I will check for rust definitely. I think getting a 1.8 Sportline, is just a waste of a better ride, because 110HP . I want to enjoy the ride and ride it slowly , listen to music etc . Thanks for the information.

  • @GlitchPG3D
    @GlitchPG3D 2 роки тому +7

    when you look at it, it just says “Mercedes”. the most known Mercedes ever.

  • @stevekramer5192
    @stevekramer5192 2 роки тому +7

    My 1987 US spec did come with the Dogleg 5 speed manual.

  • @leog9256
    @leog9256 3 роки тому +14

    Very informative. Didn’t know the 50km test!
    It’s basically the funnest retro daily driver you can get today.

    •  10 місяців тому

      50000 km! 31068 miles!

  • @artedonthebeat2749
    @artedonthebeat2749 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for the smiles on my face.

  • @MomenGalalAref
    @MomenGalalAref Рік тому +1

    I have the normal copy of this 190e and i love it and i will keep it for long time

  • @emmanuelkusi7212
    @emmanuelkusi7212 2 роки тому +4

    Nice presentation.....STRAIGHT TO THE POINT...no bullshit !!!! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

  • @alarrana2908
    @alarrana2908 3 роки тому +9

    Your cids keep getting better and better. Loved the history and details on the world recors, senna, post...excellent job

  • @sirseanisrobinson1515
    @sirseanisrobinson1515 2 роки тому +4

    I have two W201 190E, my 2.6 Sportline I'm doing a motor swap on using a M104.992 (3.2L) my other 190E getting a AMG V12 5L

  • @yen-hsenliem5497
    @yen-hsenliem5497 2 роки тому +14

    "I n the U.S. they did get these cars, but none of them came with the dog-leg, 5-speed that I have right here with me."
    You may want to check your notes:
    All manual 2.3-16s sold in the U.S. (a little over 1/2 of the 1900+ U.S. spec cars) were equipped with the same Getrag 717.404 dog-leg as every other manually transmissioned 2.3-16 sold globally.
    I believe that it was the E30 M3 that did not have a dog-leg trans in U.S. spec (and Japan spec) vs. Euro spec.
    And none of the Mercedes 190E 16v variants had ITBs from the factory - they all ran on Bosch KE-Jetronic (CIS-E) with a single throttle body.

    • @RaheesGarage
      @RaheesGarage Рік тому

      i was like this guy is just giving false information lol. However he praised the car atleast.

  • @Metroenet
    @Metroenet Рік тому +2

    190e 2.3/2.5-16 with a dogleg 5 speed is the fastest (slow) car i’ve ever driven.
    It really comes alive between 4,500-6,000+ RPM!

  • @PatPosse
    @PatPosse 2 місяці тому

    I’ve had mine for over 10 years and I’ve never felt like I wanted a different car. Granted, I’ve always had a different car for daily chores and crap but I’ve never wanted to get rid of my 2.3-16 to “update” or “””upgrade”””

  • @gro9465
    @gro9465 Рік тому

    Great review of one of my favourite cars! Shopping for an EVO 2. New subscriber 🙂

  • @mohmoudfarah1897
    @mohmoudfarah1897 3 роки тому +1

    Great review; thank you for sharing it with us.

  • @peter1900
    @peter1900 2 роки тому +4

    Sehr schönes Auto

    • @apexxxx10
      @apexxxx10 3 місяці тому

      *PKW - PERSON KRAFT WAGEN! Made in Deutschland!*

  • @edbiernot4852
    @edbiernot4852 2 роки тому +1

    The dogleg was available on the American spec

  • @EJTheHumbleKing
    @EJTheHumbleKing 2 роки тому +2

    Great Video! I have a 1993 190E Sportline 1 of 700. It has 56K original miles with zero modifications. What is it worth? Gonna list it for sale but I was wondering about a reserve price. Thanks

    • @Eetu_Veikkola
      @Eetu_Veikkola 2 роки тому

      About 1500bucks they are peace of crap, ill buy it for 1200

    • @Metroenet
      @Metroenet Рік тому +2

      15k-20k

  • @Logiic
    @Logiic 2 роки тому +6

    i'm thinking on getting one as a first car, one i am looking at has around 150k miles on it. Is it worth it still or not?

    • @abemade
      @abemade 2 роки тому +1

      Get it! getting one tomorrow with 88k miles tho

    • @Logiic
      @Logiic 2 роки тому +5

      @@abemade did last month! Love it so far

    • @manbiteslife3110
      @manbiteslife3110 Рік тому +1

      @@Logiic Looking to buy a 1993 190e 1.8 engine tho, I think it is 5 speed manual. What should I look for, what's the worst case scenario ? Most cars are 200k klm + (120k+ miles) Is it economical ?

    • @Logiic
      @Logiic Рік тому

      @@manbiteslife3110 pretty sure head gaskets are something to look out for. I had a 2.6 1991 and the water pump went, and my block ended up cracking. But those are probably nothing to worry about if the previous owner(s) had any care for the car

  • @MrRedcelica
    @MrRedcelica 3 роки тому +3

    its a better brand and its far better built than an E30, also mercedes makes great AMG cars still, you seem to have forgotten!!

  • @7beast298
    @7beast298 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! So just to confirm: the dogleg transmission was not offered on any usdm 190e's?

  • @RaheesGarage
    @RaheesGarage Рік тому +1

    all of them are dog leg transmission if its a manual, i have 2 US Spec cars, 86 and 87 both are dogleg, they came with Bosch CIS, no ITBs unless someone modified it or it has to do with AMG pack.

  • @zambam3
    @zambam3 3 роки тому +2

    I have one myself, the same model. I'm wondering, how much does one go for nowadays?

    • @artedonthebeat2749
      @artedonthebeat2749 3 роки тому +5

      Good condition, 40k

    • @ogbubba8407
      @ogbubba8407 Рік тому

      ​@@artedonthebeat2749 hahahaha u crazy haha i got 3 of them. Learn about shit before u just write some lolb

  • @rip4273
    @rip4273 2 роки тому +1

    All the US version with manual transmission, were dogleg type

  • @robertinogarcia7387
    @robertinogarcia7387 3 роки тому +13

    Sorry but all manual spec 190E 2.3-16 or 2.5-16, wether its a US or Euro spec model. They all had Dogleg transmission’s regardless.

    • @ericvelazquez184
      @ericvelazquez184 3 роки тому +3

      Dogleg transmisión?? Please describe.

    • @ericvelazquez184
      @ericvelazquez184 3 роки тому

      Automatic ?

    • @goodgod3438
      @goodgod3438 3 роки тому +7

      @@ericvelazquez184 dogleg is a manual transmission where first gear is to the left and down putting 2nd and 3rd gear in line aswell as 4th and 5th in line

    • @TurboHEMI_426
      @TurboHEMI_426 2 роки тому

      Right, I have one in my driveway.

    • @malikcee7021
      @malikcee7021 Рік тому

      What is best automatic 190e

  • @Jmjdit
    @Jmjdit 2 роки тому +1

    A lot of cars/brands haven't especially or essentially got better over time, the progress is a marketed myth.

  • @85corolla
    @85corolla 3 роки тому +2

    Sorry but these 2.3-16 and 2.5-16 never came with ITBs from the factory.

  • @benzcrazy
    @benzcrazy 2 роки тому

    What is the average value of these , I have no clue.

  • @benzcrazy
    @benzcrazy 2 роки тому

    I love mine '!

  • @felixcheng5148
    @felixcheng5148 2 роки тому +1

    Owner of this vehicle willing to sell it?

  • @TurboHEMI_426
    @TurboHEMI_426 2 роки тому

    So much misinformation here....