If you guys are wondering why Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta was playing around. It was to bait Omega Shenron to use his Negative energy ball so he could change it to positive and bring life back to the planet.
The thing with MUI is basically that UI was so amazing they didnt need to change it, and he regains his normal ish demeanor. Obviously, it's stronger but the vibes for UI Omen was just superior
Gogeta fooled around in Ssj4 to get Omega to do the Negative Karma Ball so that Gogeta could reverse it and get rid of the negative energy.....he litteraly states this near the end. After that he immediately went for the kill. Hearing you misunderstand and claim it's for no reason gives me pain😭
...I forgot that Future Bulma died, wouldn't, y'know, having your mom atomized in front of you make you _very angry_ at least more than just getting bullied? The last piece of family you actually had after your mentor died? I rest my case.
That’s what I was thinking, being made fun of by the people who genocided your entire planet and people and atomize your mother in front of your eyes was clowning you on your failure to protect them and those you lost in the past, I would be pretty mad too. Sage dismissing that as just teasing trunks is low key wild
@TSO_Sage Nope. Not the "now I'm really really mad; like actually for real" super saiyan. Like the eyes and aura but they weren't consistent. Like with Vegeta Bluer the aura looked nicer but it didn't look different from blue.
Looks cool but where was this transformation in cell, android saga.SS3 would of been much better and made more sense...or him training to learn a form of God ki to reach it ..
You know whats crazy about Kale and Caulifla, they could have genuinely entered the tournament already being super saiyans and just explained it as tCabba told them aboht it and they went through some shit and it would have been fine.
Cabba just shoulda had SS 1 to begin with, how is U6 that strong but cant even get to SS 1, it makes no sense to me. they all shoulda rolled up in the TOP with SS 1, then if u wanted some big shocker moment in the TOP give one of em SS 3, prolly Caulifla cuz she even says she wants SS 3 the most. i like U6 but so much of their execution was bad or just silly..... like Sage said Caulifla is cool but yeah the tingley back thing was just.... like huh? wtf????? ok then....
I'm not sure if it's confirmed, but my guess is that Blue Hair SSJ Broly was a thing because that was his super saiyan with the restraints on him. Paragus was stopping him from actually going SSJ with the jewels and bracelets on him. Right before he transforms, he busts out of the bracelets and his hair turns normal SSJ yellow before he explodes into LSSJ.
the best part about mui is that in the manga (spoiler btw) goku just gives up on it since it doesn't fully work for him and molds the form into something he fits best for. True Saiyan Ultra Instinct is just Omen with the mastery of Mui. Best of both worlds.
I think that Vegeta’s transformation into Super Sayian God was better than Goku’s in the Broky movie, man’s turned into the disrespectful machine himself.
Vegeta by GT has mellowed out after all the years since the Buu Saga. He's chilled with the Pride stuff. He spends time with his family. He doesn't obsess over Goku as much. He's beyond doing stupid stuff for the sake of ego at the cost of people's lives. Yes, Vegeta by this point in time would, if it meant taking out a major threat to the world, would accept the help to obtain SSJ4 (which wouldn't have been obtainable naturally since he has no way to grow his tail back without some kind of BS), and would fuse with Goku in the same arc if both of their SSJ4s couldn't win. Because this isn't Z Vegeta that would let Cell get his Perfect Form or let Babidi amp him and then kill innocents to force Goku into fighting him.
Bro vegeta in Gt isn't the same prideful, stupidly stubborn Saiyan he was in Z he's Much more of a Father. Plus its there own take on the story after Z or maybe its Canon and takes place after super who knows. but Thats why i dont like a lot of super because they redressed vegeta back to his old stubborn ways. Even after In the Buu saga he accepted that Goku was the strongest. Now they have whis telling vegeta why he cant be stronger than Goku again. Also They've basically Almost regressed Goku back to the beginning of Dragon ball. Now he's Saying he doesn't know what a kiss was and having him learn things that Master roshi and mr popo and Kami taught him like Meditation.
A bunch of the dumb moments were because they wouldn’t work in America like the kiss thing it was originally that goku was confused they were doing it in public but that only works in Japan so they changed it and they fixed it in the manga with goku being surprised that Vegeta was meditating
Also they didn’t regress Vegeta’s character in super you literally said it yourself gt Vegeta is a lot older than super Vegeta and just because he acknowledged goku as the strongest doesn’t mean he’s just gonna give up that’s an even worse idea
Buddy is tweaking on blue that shit is fire I lost my mind when he went blue with the new fit pullin up cold ice breakin off and got to fuckin canceling out Frieza trasfo Shit was too cold
I realize this probably won't be seen, but I think SSJ 4 Vegeta would have been better if, after fusing, the fusion lacked the power to get the job done. But because Vegeta had SSJ 4 for a short time, it would give him the ability to draw it out. Since Goku can't win the fight on his own, Vegeta, not wanting to be a spectator, reaches that moment in his own way.
I actually agree with everything you said about UI Omen which is i why i love the decision in the manga to have Goku back track and focus on UI Omen instead of the mastered form.
Guys we really have to actually analyze the scene with SSJ4 Gogeta, while true that he was messing around with Omega the whole point of that was to get him mad enough that he would use the Negative Karma Ball (Minus Power Energy Ball) so Gogeta could use it to purify Earth then afterwords he straight up tries ending Omega immediately after and the Second Big Bang Kamehameha might've actually been able to kill him it's just the time limit Gogeta thought he had was far shorter than what he actually had 10 mins compared to the expected 30 mins.
To me Super Sayian Rage for Trunks was kinda like a spirit form. He known as the protector in his time line. He had to go and issekai Vegeta and Goku into his world because Goku Black was too strong. Then for Goku Black to unlock a new form and proceed to stomp them out some more. In the moment his people has to terrorize, his mother was murdered in front of him, and dude only hope backfired and made the enemy stronger. I believe the form was unlocked from the energy of everyone and adrenaline of their desperation. Sort of like how goku beat Broly in his first Z movie. Trunks was less efficient.
5:20 I thought it’s because he’s half Saiyan and they have better potential, he was fighting black who had god ki (forgive me I assume trunks was absorbing it same way as vegeta was able to from train), another reach could be that the pain from losing his mom finally hit him too, Shi I would hope he would have a stronger power losing a mother over a best friend Edit: 6:01 should’ve kept watching a little more but I guess it might be half saiyan, but considering it really wasn’t Goku fam just a different timeline one idk ( not saying wife and kid is not important than a mother)
I LOVE SSBE, as u can tell by my pfp, but honestly I just love it cause its a darker blue and dark blue is my favorite color, when I first watch the scene when vegeta turns into SSBE I was hype as hell when i saw that darker blue, and also I absolutely love how it looks, I can understand why u dont like it also u made me realise that SSBE has a lot in common with rage, and dont like rage for the same reasons you dont like it. Just saying that aesthetically for me SSBE is FIRE
Tien I can see somewhat being able to control it since he already has Tribeam which seems to damage the body more than Kaioken, Yamcha might not be able to considering it destroyed Goku's body as well.
They should’ve unveiled super Saiyan blue during the future trunks saga in dragon ball super. Goku‘s little raids boost could’ve just been super Saiyan blue.
Blue is a go to base form, not only that they fumbled rhe movie where they got the form but it was Goku wining, getting packed by an npc, vegeta coming also plot says no for vegeta to get a win and goku destroys frieza and thats the only thing that ssjb achieved in the entire series overall it was a walking L.
My only problem with Blue as this extremely powerful is that it just gets its butt kicked constantly, they should really have just reserved the form for final battles and not building up the villains/rivals as powerful threats.
They need reset dragon ball from the god ki 😂, or at least let gohan, trunks, and goten go beyond supersaiyan, maybe that’s how super saiyan 4 can actually make sense
Aiight im going to defend SSJ Rage a bit. I don't really like it, but i think trunk getting it is a bit justified. I think maybe if it was called like SSJ despair it would have been better. Or if they had prefaced it better reminding us of how hard Future Trunks has had it and this pent up rage building up over the coarse of his life. With the androids, gohan dying, cell, bulma dying, etc. Like bro objectively has the worst life out of any of the Z fighters. Essentially they should have played up the rage aspect.
It would have been the coolest shit ever if goku didnt get ssj blue but Vegeta did. Hear me out, Uni 6 arc is all ssj god, TOP arc goku gets omen and Vegeta goes blue. He would have achieved something before Goku for once and i feel like it would’ve worked better for the pacing too. I feel like Goku committing to UI would have been sick and Vegeta mastering ssj blue would have been sick. Im one of those guys that doesnt really like ultra ego since it encourages sloppy fighting.
Kidd buu is automatically him status the moment he shows up he blows up the planet and himself, puts him self back together now it took Goku a whole ass year that's an arc by the way to learn instant Transmission, and Kidd Buu did that in the matter of seconds that is instant him status of not Goat
I don't like trunks rage boost transformation, but to say "it was just mean words" is blind. Trunks was having a existential crisis fueled by a life of suffering while being mocked for it by a Supreme Kai a literal god in DB. All his suffering, all his efforts, his entire life spit on. This isn't "mean words," it isn't even the same as "mourning the lost of love ones" Every suffering Goku has lived through, Trunks has lived through and more and the only glimpse at hope he gets is when he time travels to a completely different timeline. All of that is coming to a point when he gets the rage boost transformation. Which again, I dislike and would put it in F tier. But "Mean words" is a weak argument that doesn't take into account the entire story of Future Trunks in the context of this arc.
Okay, two points about SSJ Rage. Whether or not you like it, the different in how mad they looked is a product of the new art style. The point you are missing, is he wasn't "cyber bullied." He was asking why Zamasu wiped out his whole race for the most part and his mother. Zamasu replied, "Cause you are mortals, so corrupt." essentially saying, "Lol, just cause." His rage was how there was no real reason, they were killed simply cause they wanted them to die.
Hi i respect your opinion on ssj4 vegeta , but he was not BUILT SSJ4 he was built to turn monkey because he didnt have a TAIL. so he achieved SSJ4 naturally like goku and faster thn goku , the MACHINE WAS BUILT FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE MONKEY FORM . :)
You could say gt vegeta accepting bulmas help in ascending to ssj4 is out of character cause every other form he has organically achieved and the last time he let someone else help him was babdi which I’d say he did that out desperation and frustration being weaker than goku
Yes Vegeta achieve everything in its own way, thats the thing SO WHY THE HECK HE CANT GET HELP FROM HIS FAMILY his character id pretty tied up with this theme ,Bulma allready built gravity room for him so why the heck THIS is bad?
Story has it that frieza gets taller in golden form 😂 about the only thing good about it. Now janemba is the best looking bad Guy in Dragon ball but the mf cant talk.
Maybe this is a hot take but super Saiyan three looks terrible it’s just blonde caveman raditz. The first transformation sequence carries the form entirely.
I personally view Trunks’ SSJ Rage as something specifically unique to Trunks, like Vegeta’s Royal blue, but the transformation itself was absolutely horribly executed and brought out at bad time, complete waste of a transformation that coulda had potential.
Rage is garbage…the fact ONLY trunks get this is worse….now….the way I think of it Gohan trunks and Goten should all have the same “potential” meaning the same potential “transformations”…..now idk if you give trunks Beast in the black saga because trunks is different from Trunks….but you can’t give Trunks RAGE and that’s it for trunks specifically 😭 then you got Gohan with Beast and watch goten get some crazy god shit😂😂
If you think rage trunks was a waste then you clearly didn’t get it. IMO That man has been fighting a god for a year him achieving tht form is him stepping into god territory in his own way. Just like Gohan did wit beast gohan form and how goku got ui and vegeta got destroyer energy. I’m not saying he is on they level cause then been in god territory they are just miles ahead of him but this was something that trunks needed cause he’s had it hard💯
Brother how can you add rose goku black to the fire list but say base goku black is micky did you even watch the goku black arc saying it's just goku with a sore throat is so stupid on your part that dude did the most evil things possible in base for what he calls justice he killed all the kai's in base basically killing all the gods and where's there angels they gone without a destroyer God they basically don't exist he killed every mortal in existence in base he killed goku from a different timeline in base as well as killed goten and chichi and he basically bullied and nearly killed trunks every damn time they fought in base he even damaged a ssj2 goku in base and basically flattened ssb vegeta with one kick to the gut before going super saiyan rose so tell me how is that shit considered not HIM!! think Brother THINK!!!!!😁
If you guys are wondering why Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta was playing around. It was to bait Omega Shenron to use his Negative energy ball so he could change it to positive and bring life back to the planet.
Yup
My goat
You really think Dragonball niggas watch the show??🤣They say the same about vegeto
Problem is that after that he didn't instantly oblitorate omega.
dragonball fans can't think or read. they just wanna look at niggas box for 20 minutes😂
When he said "cool lil hairstyle" for Jiren I died laughing 😭😭😭
Enraged nipple is wild.
When Sage went SSJ2. Crazy. Him tier for sure
The thing with MUI is basically that UI was so amazing they didnt need to change it, and he regains his normal ish demeanor. Obviously, it's stronger but the vibes for UI Omen was just superior
Gogeta fooled around in Ssj4 to get Omega to do the Negative Karma Ball so that Gogeta could reverse it and get rid of the negative energy.....he litteraly states this near the end. After that he immediately went for the kill. Hearing you misunderstand and claim it's for no reason gives me pain😭
The crown Paragus used made Brolys normal super Saiyan turn blue 👁👁
It's basically half-on, like the green hair part of Goku and Vegeta's SS transformations in DBS Broly.
...I forgot that Future Bulma died, wouldn't, y'know, having your mom atomized in front of you make you _very angry_ at least more than just getting bullied? The last piece of family you actually had after your mentor died? I rest my case.
That’s what I was thinking, being made fun of by the people who genocided your entire planet and people and atomize your mother in front of your eyes was clowning you on your failure to protect them and those you lost in the past, I would be pretty mad too. Sage dismissing that as just teasing trunks is low key wild
The moment Sage put kid buu as him that’s when I really knew Sage knows ball 😌💯
You deserve 25 to life for putting janemba in the same tier as ssj2 gohan
I ain't seen future Gohan get disrespected this bad since DB Super Hero...
All I want for Christmas is for Sage to watch one piece
I think the idea of Trunks rage mode is dumb, but I liked him gettung his own powerup. I like the direction that everybody's path is more unique.
i can even try to accept this fr , but the amount of people who will defend “super sayain rage” is just scary lol
@TSO_Sage Nope. Not the "now I'm really really mad; like actually for real" super saiyan. Like the eyes and aura but they weren't consistent. Like with Vegeta Bluer the aura looked nicer but it didn't look different from blue.
Looks cool but where was this transformation in cell, android saga.SS3 would of been much better and made more sense...or him training to learn a form of God ki to reach it ..
You know whats crazy about Kale and Caulifla, they could have genuinely entered the tournament already being super saiyans and just explained it as tCabba told them aboht it and they went through some shit and it would have been fine.
Cabba just shoulda had SS 1 to begin with, how is U6 that strong but cant even get to SS 1, it makes no sense to me. they all shoulda rolled up in the TOP with SS 1, then if u wanted some big shocker moment in the TOP give one of em SS 3, prolly Caulifla cuz she even says she wants SS 3 the most. i like U6 but so much of their execution was bad or just silly..... like Sage said Caulifla is cool but yeah the tingley back thing was just.... like huh? wtf????? ok then....
Love these vids bro, shits hilarious 😂😂
Bro Blue Gogeta was Him wym bro did not play around and was stylish as shit that was amazing
7:48 nah bc the music he gets in the Japanese goes crazy fr
I'm not sure if it's confirmed, but my guess is that Blue Hair SSJ Broly was a thing because that was his super saiyan with the restraints on him. Paragus was stopping him from actually going SSJ with the jewels and bracelets on him.
Right before he transforms, he busts out of the bracelets and his hair turns normal SSJ yellow before he explodes into LSSJ.
the best part about mui is that in the manga (spoiler btw) goku just gives up on it since it doesn't fully work for him and molds the form into something he fits best for. True Saiyan Ultra Instinct is just Omen with the mastery of Mui. Best of both worlds.
Blue hair broly unironically one of my favorite designs In all of dragon ball haha
I think Semi Perfect Cell is underrated, they could’ve done more since it was Toriyama’s favorite Cell form
the thing about omen, jiren was holding back mega, as shown by jiren boxing with regular ui
All I want for Christmas is a gogeta video please sage
A fusion video
I think that Vegeta’s transformation into Super Sayian God was better than Goku’s in the Broky movie, man’s turned into the disrespectful machine himself.
I ain’t gon cap, that thumbnail is nasty work 😂
"I pray to God I don't have to defend this" you don't you really don't
Where Goatccolo at?!?!?!
Me over here liking blue evolution..
Hey Sage I Think You've Forgotten About Some Other Transformations Like:
1. Cooler (4th Form)
2. Final Form Cooler
3. Metal Cooler
4. Beast gohan
5. Orange piccolo
6. Hit
@matthewdescorbeth4443 unless I missed something major, how in Popo's holy name does Hit transform???
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Pure Progress, his constant evolution. Idk about other games but in XV2 it's a transformation that changes his stance and buffs him.
Vegeta by GT has mellowed out after all the years since the Buu Saga. He's chilled with the Pride stuff. He spends time with his family. He doesn't obsess over Goku as much. He's beyond doing stupid stuff for the sake of ego at the cost of people's lives. Yes, Vegeta by this point in time would, if it meant taking out a major threat to the world, would accept the help to obtain SSJ4 (which wouldn't have been obtainable naturally since he has no way to grow his tail back without some kind of BS), and would fuse with Goku in the same arc if both of their SSJ4s couldn't win. Because this isn't Z Vegeta that would let Cell get his Perfect Form or let Babidi amp him and then kill innocents to force Goku into fighting him.
Would like to see where you would rank Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan
What tiers would you have put
Orange piccolo, beast gohan, fused zamasu (white hair), corrupted zamasu, and final form cooler in
Bro held himself back it should be next to super saiyan UI is probably the second most iconic form of Dragon ball
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I like it how for 5 minutes he made fun of super sayain rage 😭😭
Bro vegeta in Gt isn't the same prideful, stupidly stubborn Saiyan he was in Z he's Much more of a Father. Plus its there own take on the story after Z or maybe its Canon and takes place after super who knows. but Thats why i dont like a lot of super because they redressed vegeta back to his old stubborn ways. Even after In the Buu saga he accepted that Goku was the strongest. Now they have whis telling vegeta why he cant be stronger than Goku again. Also They've basically Almost regressed Goku back to the beginning of Dragon ball. Now he's Saying he doesn't know what a kiss was and having him learn things that Master roshi and mr popo and Kami taught him like Meditation.
A bunch of the dumb moments were because they wouldn’t work in America like the kiss thing it was originally that goku was confused they were doing it in public but that only works in Japan so they changed it and they fixed it in the manga with goku being surprised that Vegeta was meditating
Also they didn’t regress Vegeta’s character in super you literally said it yourself gt Vegeta is a lot older than super Vegeta and just because he acknowledged goku as the strongest doesn’t mean he’s just gonna give up that’s an even worse idea
Broly’s suppressed SSJ look being cool is a *hot take?* Nah man, cool ash
The GT misunderstandings are wild bro💀
Mickey Playlist OMEGALUL ❤️🔥
Buddy is tweaking on blue that shit is fire I lost my mind when he went blue with the new fit pullin up cold ice breakin off and got to fuckin canceling out Frieza trasfo Shit was too cold
I realize this probably won't be seen, but I think SSJ 4 Vegeta would have been better if, after fusing, the fusion lacked the power to get the job done. But because Vegeta had SSJ 4 for a short time, it would give him the ability to draw it out. Since Goku can't win the fight on his own, Vegeta, not wanting to be a spectator, reaches that moment in his own way.
W Sage 💯💪
I actually agree with everything you said about UI Omen which is i why i love the decision in the manga to have Goku back track and focus on UI Omen instead of the mastered form.
Well he ends up getting another UI form, it’s more like a dark-silver kinda thing
He didn’t back track it’s a newer form true ultra instinct.
Guys we really have to actually analyze the scene with SSJ4 Gogeta, while true that he was messing around with Omega the whole point of that was to get him mad enough that he would use the Negative Karma Ball (Minus Power Energy Ball) so Gogeta could use it to purify Earth then afterwords he straight up tries ending Omega immediately after and the Second Big Bang Kamehameha might've actually been able to kill him it's just the time limit Gogeta thought he had was far shorter than what he actually had 10 mins compared to the expected 30 mins.
To me Super Sayian Rage for Trunks was kinda like a spirit form. He known as the protector in his time line. He had to go and issekai Vegeta and Goku into his world because Goku Black was too strong. Then for Goku Black to unlock a new form and proceed to stomp them out some more. In the moment his people has to terrorize, his mother was murdered in front of him, and dude only hope backfired and made the enemy stronger. I believe the form was unlocked from the energy of everyone and adrenaline of their desperation. Sort of like how goku beat Broly in his first Z movie. Trunks was less efficient.
I've been a new subscriber for a bit, thought I do wanna wonder what "mickey" means?
Chocolate Vegito should be on the list
5:20 I thought it’s because he’s half Saiyan and they have better potential, he was fighting black who had god ki (forgive me I assume trunks was absorbing it same way as vegeta was able to from train), another reach could be that the pain from losing his mom finally hit him too, Shi I would hope he would have a stronger power losing a mother over a best friend
Edit: 6:01 should’ve kept watching a little more but I guess it might be half saiyan, but considering it really wasn’t Goku fam just a different timeline one idk ( not saying wife and kid is not important than a mother)
I LOVE SSBE, as u can tell by my pfp, but honestly I just love it cause its a darker blue and dark blue is my favorite color, when I first watch the scene when vegeta turns into SSBE I was hype as hell when i saw that darker blue, and also I absolutely love how it looks, I can understand why u dont like it also u made me realise that SSBE has a lot in common with rage, and dont like rage for the same reasons you dont like it. Just saying that aesthetically for me SSBE is FIRE
I like Kaioken too but Ive always been mad that Tien and Yamcha never got it after training with King Kai too.
Tien I can see somewhat being able to control it since he already has Tribeam which seems to damage the body more than Kaioken, Yamcha might not be able to considering it destroyed Goku's body as well.
@@ElHarmonyV lmaoo you hella right
base Goku should be in Him but W tier list
Sage, check AMP DIVORCE COURT 2 , it's gets crazy!!!
Anyways good video brother just had to say something you must have forgotten about
Yo sage I need this tier list
They should’ve unveiled super Saiyan blue during the future trunks saga in dragon ball super. Goku‘s little raids boost could’ve just been super Saiyan blue.
Blue is a go to base form, not only that they fumbled rhe movie where they got the form but it was Goku wining, getting packed by an npc, vegeta coming also plot says no for vegeta to get a win and goku destroys frieza and thats the only thing that ssjb achieved in the entire series overall it was a walking L.
Personally I think SSJB should be a lot Higher like form wise and Functionality wise it is arguably the best form
My only problem with Blue as this extremely powerful is that it just gets its butt kicked constantly, they should really have just reserved the form for final battles and not building up the villains/rivals as powerful threats.
Yessirski 🔥
They need reset dragon ball from the god ki 😂, or at least let gohan, trunks, and goten go beyond supersaiyan, maybe that’s how super saiyan 4 can actually make sense
I mean daima is coming and apparently it’s canon so we might see some basic stuff?
Probably cause Roshi Goes Max Power Buff Ass Mode
Honestly, you aren't wrong in the list and reasoning
Unpopular opinion: Goten is FYE literally based off the fact that he looks just like Goku lol
Trunks mother got killed in front of everybody was being killed
Ssj3>>>>
So long as UI and SSJ3 are at the top, I'm good
Aiight im going to defend SSJ Rage a bit. I don't really like it, but i think trunk getting it is a bit justified. I think maybe if it was called like SSJ despair it would have been better. Or if they had prefaced it better reminding us of how hard Future Trunks has had it and this pent up rage building up over the coarse of his life. With the androids, gohan dying, cell, bulma dying, etc. Like bro objectively has the worst life out of any of the Z fighters. Essentially they should have played up the rage aspect.
it was bad presentation
It would have been the coolest shit ever if goku didnt get ssj blue but Vegeta did. Hear me out, Uni 6 arc is all ssj god, TOP arc goku gets omen and Vegeta goes blue. He would have achieved something before Goku for once and i feel like it would’ve worked better for the pacing too. I feel like Goku committing to UI would have been sick and Vegeta mastering ssj blue would have been sick. Im one of those guys that doesnt really like ultra ego since it encourages sloppy fighting.
Kidd buu is automatically him status the moment he shows up he blows up the planet and himself, puts him self back together now it took Goku a whole ass year that's an arc by the way to learn instant Transmission, and Kidd Buu did that in the matter of seconds that is instant him status of not Goat
Gt slander vid coming up anyone sage was cookin on the gt inconsistent character bit
I hard disagree with vegeta with SSJ4. I would suggest watching GT in Sub because Dub change so much about GT it makes it basically a different story.
Let GT Vegets just organically shit out a new tail then and wait for ssj4 while Omega shenron destroys the universe.
You watched GT in dub didn't you.
I don't like trunks rage boost transformation, but to say "it was just mean words" is blind. Trunks was having a existential crisis fueled by a life of suffering while being mocked for it by a Supreme Kai a literal god in DB. All his suffering, all his efforts, his entire life spit on.
This isn't "mean words," it isn't even the same as "mourning the lost of love ones"
Every suffering Goku has lived through, Trunks has lived through and more and the only glimpse at hope he gets is when he time travels to a completely different timeline. All of that is coming to a point when he gets the rage boost transformation. Which again, I dislike and would put it in F tier. But "Mean words" is a weak argument that doesn't take into account the entire story of Future Trunks in the context of this arc.
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Okay, two points about SSJ Rage. Whether or not you like it, the different in how mad they looked is a product of the new art style. The point you are missing, is he wasn't "cyber bullied." He was asking why Zamasu wiped out his whole race for the most part and his mother. Zamasu replied, "Cause you are mortals, so corrupt." essentially saying, "Lol, just cause." His rage was how there was no real reason, they were killed simply cause they wanted them to die.
can you react scamboli reviews if drunk people made an anime
Im so confused what does mickey mean 😭😭
My top 5 are
1. MUI Goku
2. SSJ 1
3. 'Primal' SSJ (Broly form)
4. SSJ4
5. SSJ Rosé
Hi i respect your opinion on ssj4 vegeta , but he was not BUILT SSJ4 he was built to turn monkey because he didnt have a TAIL. so he achieved SSJ4 naturally like goku and faster thn goku , the MACHINE WAS BUILT FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE MONKEY FORM . :)
Trunks did train with vegeta so i could be he got a power up for training with a god 🤷🏾♂ ik still suss
Ssj3 is the definition of cool lol hairstyle
You could say gt vegeta accepting bulmas help in ascending to ssj4 is out of character cause every other form he has organically achieved and the last time he let someone else help him was babdi which I’d say he did that out desperation and frustration being weaker than goku
What is Mickey
Yes Vegeta achieve everything in its own way, thats the thing
SO WHY THE HECK HE CANT GET HELP FROM HIS FAMILY
his character id pretty tied up with this theme ,Bulma allready built gravity room for him so why the heck THIS is bad?
Story has it that frieza gets taller in golden form 😂 about the only thing good about it. Now janemba is the best looking bad Guy in Dragon ball but the mf cant talk.
Thoughts on beast Gohan and orange Piccolo my guy
*Nah I’d win*
Maybe this is a hot take but super Saiyan three looks terrible it’s just blonde caveman raditz. The first transformation sequence carries the form entirely.
Imo ssj3 only looks good on Gotenks
@@damajorplaya3804 I agree
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Really should have just gave trunks a ssj3 instead of rage but either way its stupid
2nd form cell kills goku tho
Hot take ssj2 is overatted only works and looks good on teen gohan but teen gohan is a him character mui is the best form broke the internet nuff said
ss2 being overrated is fine. mui being the goat is nasty lol
You don’t think Super Saiyan would have broken the internet? Ui is not the best form lmao
Im pushing my agenda mui stronger/cooler ssj only has iconic over mui fr
Cooler got fucked over lol, 5th form Cooler is top tier, he looks amazing. Metal Cooler sucks tho i never liked him.
base cabba no diffs all of Z
I personally view Trunks’ SSJ Rage as something specifically unique to Trunks, like Vegeta’s Royal blue, but the transformation itself was absolutely horribly executed and brought out at bad time, complete waste of a transformation that coulda had potential.
Did he just disrespect ssj2?
4th Form Cooler - I Guess Tier
Final Form Cooler - FIRE Tier
Metal Cooler - HIM Tier
Im sorry man but ssj3 is not fire, at least compared to ssb.
Rage is garbage…the fact ONLY trunks get this is worse….now….the way I think of it Gohan trunks and Goten should all have the same “potential” meaning the same potential “transformations”…..now idk if you give trunks Beast in the black saga because trunks is different from Trunks….but you can’t give Trunks RAGE and that’s it for trunks specifically 😭 then you got Gohan with Beast and watch goten get some crazy god shit😂😂
I disagree SSBE looks stunning
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If you think rage trunks was a waste then you clearly didn’t get it. IMO That man has been fighting a god for a year him achieving tht form is him stepping into god territory in his own way. Just like Gohan did wit beast gohan form and how goku got ui and vegeta got destroyer energy. I’m not saying he is on they level cause then been in god territory they are just miles ahead of him but this was something that trunks needed cause he’s had it hard💯
bro… for many reasons… no lol.
@@TSO_Sage you can say tht everybody seen it differently 🤷🏾♂️
@@bertjones8672and many people are stupid as hell or blind so cool?
Brother how can you add rose goku black to the fire list but say base goku black is micky did you even watch the goku black arc saying it's just goku with a sore throat is so stupid on your part that dude did the most evil things possible in base for what he calls justice he killed all the kai's in base basically killing all the gods and where's there angels they gone without a destroyer God they basically don't exist he killed every mortal in existence in base he killed goku from a different timeline in base as well as killed goten and chichi and he basically bullied and nearly killed trunks every damn time they fought in base he even damaged a ssj2 goku in base and basically flattened ssb vegeta with one kick to the gut before going super saiyan rose so tell me how is that shit considered not HIM!! think Brother THINK!!!!!😁