Sony 200-600 vs 100-400 AF Keeper Test with 4 Cameras Tested
Вставка
- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In this video I do an autofocus comparison between the Sony 200-600mm G lens and the Sony 100-400mm GM lens.
👉Discover our new community forum: www.alphashoot...
I used the Sony a6400, a7III, a7R III and a9. Each lens is tested at 400mm, then I add the 1.4x teleconverter to take the 100-400 to 560mm and compare it with the 200-600 at 600mm, all shot wide-open.
You can find detailed image comparisons between these two lenses on my website here:
www.alphashoot...
Affiliate links:
Sony FE 200-600 G
👉Amazon (US) - amzn.to/31zRegi
👉Adorama (US) - adorama.rfvk.ne...
👉Amazon (UK) - amzn.to/33MypIG
Sony FE 100-400 GM
👉Amazon (US) - amzn.to/31DdciD
👉Adorama (US) - adorama.evyy.n...
👉Amazon (UK) - amzn.to/2Z9r5s1
My Sony Alpha Facebook Groups
===========================
Sony Alpha Wildlife Shooters: / alphawildlifeshooters
Sony Alpha Landscape Shooters: / alphalandscapeshooters
Sony Alpha Portrait Shooters: / alphaportraitshooters
Sony Alpha Sports Shooters: / alphasportsshooters
Sony Alpha Wedding Shooters: / alphaweddingshooters
Sony Alpha Urban / Street Shooters: / alphaurbanshooters
Sony Alpha Macro Shooters: / alphamacroshooters
Sony Alpha Video Shooters: / alphavideoshooters
Sony Alpha Shooters Group (Everything Alpha): / alphashootersgroup
Sony A7III Shooters: / sonya7iiishooters
Sony A6400 Shooters: / sonya6400shooters
My Amazon Store for Alpha Shooters
===========================
www.amazon.com...
Connect With Me!
===========================
Website: www.alphashoot...
Instagram: / alphashooters
Instagram: / timothymayo79
Facebook: / alphashooters
This UA-cam video was recorded on the Sony a9 with the Sony FE 24 F1.4 GM lens and the Rode Wireless Go microphone.
As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
in conclusion, the a9 is on steroids
Imagine what A9ii can do.
@@frankfeng2701 I question, how can the autofocus on the a9 get any better after real time auto focusing was implemented.. perhaps just perfect focusing with adapted lenses?
@@frankfeng2701 110%
Crop in the A9 to equal the A7rIII and then compare. I have both and grab the A7rIII and now A7rIV long before the a9. When the A9 3 or 4 or 5 offers a larger file then it might be my first choice. I am a bird photographer shooting birds in flight with the Sony 600mm F4 and A7rIV and the a9 can't compare in feather detail. I just wish the A7riV had a faster frame rate as 20 fps offers a better chance of getting the exact composition I want.
@ Actually, the price of the A9 is extremely attractive now since the A9 II came out. We are effectively talking about the same money for both the A9 and A7R III.
This review was awesome, I was looking for something exactly like this. Would you be doing an A7R IV vs A7R III AF Keeper test in the near future? I would love to see how much of a difference there is in AF between the two cameras.
Thank you! Yes I will be doing a similar keeper test between the a7R III and the IV and also a birds in flight comparison. Next video will be a7R IV vs a9 birds in flight but then I'll start comparing the a7R III vs IV but it's a few weeks away.
I i would like a test like this with the a6600, a7lll, a7Rlll, a7riv and a9 maybe?
I probably won't be doing this test again just yet, I also don't have the a6600 unfortunately. I will be doing something similar for the Sony 100-400 vs Sigma 100-400 soon and also the Tamron 70-180 vs Sony 70-200.
Your favorite dog is so cute!
Thanks. I'll tell him you said so! :)
The massive and sudden increase in volume with the sudden and startling blaring music blew my eardrums out with my headphones. Suggest you seriously work on the audio control.
Added a subscribe, a really simple real world test... hope the model got an extra bowl of treats after that running around😎
Many thanks Jim, glad that you liked the video. He certainly got a few treats :)
I just got my 200-600 yesterday, so this made me feel good as it’s $1000 cheaper at 600mm. Would love to see how the a7r4 will do versus the a9 as I have to make a choice between them. Thanks, nice video!
Congrats on the 200-600! :) I don't expect the a7R IV to come close to the a9 when it comes to AF performance but I'll certainly be comparing them once the a7R IV is available. Tim
The A9 is better in low light and the A9II has the ergonomics of a7r4
Just received my A92. Thanks!
Thanks for this nice & real world condition auto focus test.
As you mentioned you'll upload a video of shooting birds with these lenses, please take a APS-C (like a6400) camera also along with any full frame camera. Because many people like shooting birds with APS-C because of the extra reach in focal length.
Glad you liked it Shankhanil! I'll try to get some a6400 shots in as well. I've already shot birds in flight with the a6400 and it has no trouble keeping up with the larger birds I was shooting. I've not tried it with smaller birds yet.
A73 and A7R3 ..fantastic AF but the Sony A9 is God-level
Greetings from Portugal. Thanks for sharing this video. Please use also the Sony a9 for your test on birds in flight and let us know your opinion.Thanks!
The a9 doesn't miss a great deal but I will do a BIF comparison with it at some point.
@@AlphaShooters which lens is sharper at 400mm: the 100-400 or the 200-600? And at 560/600mm: the 100-400 x 1,4 ot the 200-600?
@@ajcaiado1 It's very close at 400mm but in some of my comparison shots the 200-600 is sharper. At 560/600 the 200-600 is always sharper. Lots of shots here: www.alphashooters.com/compare/sony-fe-200-600-vs-fe-100-400-gm/
That's it!! Im saving to Sony a9 + that lense.
5 years later I can afford Both 🤔
It's worth it! :)
Just $5K for this combo. And just $200 for 24 months. Everybody can afford this.
Sony a6600 with sony 200-600mm . i am going to purchase . kindly do a test if possible
I hope you try the 1.4 teleconverter with the SONY FE 200-600.
I'll be trying it out soon. I didn't include it on the 200-600 in this test because it was fairly warm and would have been too much work for Frank!
A fabulous test and clip, Thank you for doing this, your findings are very much the same, I think the 100-400mm GM aquires focus a fraction quicker too which on small BIF could be an advantage, I am testing similar thoughts
Glad that you enjoyed it Mick. I plan to do a focus acquisition comparison soon but I think you're right in that the 100-400 is slightly faster which will certainly help with BIF shots.
Thanks Tim, really useful video. Looking to buy the 200-600 for the A7iii - but a lot of the UA-camr tests were based on the A9.
Glad that it helped! Sony always pairs new lenses with their fastest cameras at media events, so it's interesting to test other cameras as well, especially when more people will probably be pairing this lens with the a7III or a7R III than the a9.
Credit- majority of reviewers only use the A9. Looking at the other, and lets face it, more affordbale options its great. Thanks
Cheers Chris!
I guess the a9 what's the best one thank you for this wonderful work you do I have the a92 with Sony 200 to 600 mm
Glad that you found it helpful. The a9II and 200-600 is a great combo!
Great video @Alpha Shooters, can you confirm you're using Continuous AF with Wide Area? Also which number tracking sensitivity please?
Thanks Ant. Yes I was using AF-C with Wide Area. Tracking sensitivity was set to the default 3. - Tim
Thanks! Just a beginner here, perhaps I missed it but why didn't you use the tracking auto focus feature, animal recognition?
I wanted to use identical tracking and focus areas on all 4 cameras, so I used a wide focus area since only the a6400 and a9 support real-time tracking and there's no animal eye af on the a9 just yet. Also animal eye af doesn't work all that well for fast head on shots with lots of movement, at least it doesn't on Frank.
Nice test I've sub'd looking forward to your BIF test. I'm sold on the 200-600mm although it's not as good as my Canon 300mmf2.8LIS I just want an affordable BIF lens to go with a great cam the A9 possibly MC11 with my Canon lens would be good enough. Recently I'm having two minds about this due to the A7r4 may be a better option (rumour says it has A9 focus) not enough tests out there yet.
Thank you Necip. Love your shots of the kites too, definitely one of my favourite birds to shoot. Where do you shoot them? I like Bwlch Nant Yr Arian. I don't think the a7R IV focus will come close to the a9, you'll also still get blackouts when shooting continuous. The a9 is definitely the better camera for birds in flight but I prefer to use my a7R III for shooting pretty much everything else. I hope to rent an a7R IV soon and do a similar AF comparison with the a7R III and a9.
I hope you gave your dog some really nice treats. Enjoyed the testing.
Thanks Roscoe. Treats are always at hand :)
What a fantastic review! Thank you.
Glad that you enjoyed it! :)
I think anyone being undecided between 100-400 and 200-600 would open this video for some opinions (like I did) and after 5 minutes, he/she would decide to get the a9 (or a9ii) first..😅
Great comparison mate (Thanks for posting ), i would not be offended by the performance of any of those cameras (or lenses) , but the A9 really is a stand out .
If i may put a hypothetical too you ;) ,
if you had only the cash for either the 400 mm or the 600 mm lens , which would you pick ?
thank you .
Thank you! The a9 is pretty awesome. If I could afford to keep both I would. The 100-400 is the better lens if you travel a lot and need to pack small and light. It's also much better for shooting bugs due to it's short minimum focussing distance of around 1m. The 200-600 is the better lens if you are shooting at 600mm more often and don't mind the extra weight and size along with the pretty poor MFD of around 3m. It's much sharper at 600mm than the 100-400 + 1.4x at 560mm. Adding the 1.4x to the 200-600 also gives you some serious reach. The very short throw of the internal zoom on the 200-600 also makes zooming in and out quickly a breeze and it balances much better on a gimbal. - Tim
@@AlphaShooters thanks Tim .
Cheers .
great content! What about the review of Sigma 100-400? Specially in comparison with sony's.
Wow that a9 is out of this world! Excellent work! This is the best way to review a sports lens! Thank for this. Subscribed.
I’ve been avoiding the a9 because it has no slog which is important to my photo+video work. My a6300 on silent mode, will shoot slog2 on video, and no log on photo.
Now looks like i need to have two bodies! A9 + a6300
Follow up question: when on electronic shutter, does the a9 have rolling shitter (jello) effect)? Because my a6300 has rolling shutter on silent mode 😢
Thank you! For video there is still some rolling shutter visible, I'm sure there are some videos on this here. For stills I've never had an issue with it in my images but here's a post that shows that it can have a very small impact if you shoot golf: admiringlight.com/blog/shooting-golf-with-the-sony-a9/
Thank you sir! this was the video what i was looking for.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice work and helpful. However for A9, the dogs movement was relatively stable and predictable. For other cameras it was running to and fro.
I'm not doubting the results of a9, but the variation in dog's movement was too profound to me.
Thanks Enayetur. Frank can certainly be unpredictable as to how he runs, but looking at the videos again he also veers off a little with the a9 and the other cameras I wouldn't class him has running to and fro. But this is just one test, there will be others. He's not the most challenging of subjects for the a9!
Started the video for the lenses. Stayed on for your wonderful dog. I had a German Shepheard for 15 years in my youth. What a great dog! Yours certainly enjoyed your lens tests a lot. :-)
So in the end, both lenses perform on the same level on all cameras. I was surprised that the tele converter had such little influence on the performance of the 100-400.
Thank you Jan-Hendrik. Frank had his first birthday on Sunday. He's a lovely dog and never gets tired of chasing balls so he's ideal for testing cameras and lenses :) Yes the 1.4x has very little impact on the AF performance although it does put you at f/8. All the best, Tim
The 1.4 TC has a slight effect on focus even less on the A9II but f8 is an issue.
the no-blackout on the A9 is really pleasant
It certainly is! :)
This is exactly what I have been waiting for..Great Vid, well done to "mans best friend". Look forward to the BIF video. Regards.
Many thanks Philip! Franks definitely my best friend apart from when he's chewing things he shouldn't be! - Tim
Dang, really shows how the a9 pulls ahead. No blackout is so satisfying to watch…
The a9 is a fucking beast
... interesting review. 👍🏻 Question: Does Track & Trace make a difference when photographing on the a6400 and a9? The function was not selected for the test ... or?
Thanks! Do you mean the real-time tracking options? I didn't use then here, just wide focus area. The tracking options on the a6400 and a9 are useful when you are more likely to lose your subject, such as tracking a bird amongst other birds or with a busy background that the focus could jump to. Tim
Excellent, you just cost me £1800. That's the difference between the resale value of the A7III I bought in April vs that and the balance on the A9 I now have to buy.
You're welcome Anthony :) I'd wait to see if the a9 II is announced this year, you might get some better deals on the a9 coming up!
@@AlphaShooters True, I shall keep an eye out for it.
TLDW: A9 focus is incredible.
It certainly is!
Great detailed analysis. I will do a comparison and which one I would now buy on Camilla & I soon . The 200-600 is awesome with the A9 II
Thank you very much Camilla!
Do you have FE70200GM ? would you mind doing another test between FE70200GM + 2X teleconverter and FE100400GM to see the difference in every aspect of the lens just like you doing to this.
I do have the 70-200 GM and would like to compare it with the 2x to the 100-400 at some point but I’ve got a handful of other comparisons I need to finish off first so it might be a little while I’m afraid. The 2x works well on the 70-200 but it’s not as sharp nor the AF as fast as the 100-400 at 400mm. If you shoot more at 400mm I’d go with the 100-400. But if you are mainly shooting 70-200 with a few shots at 400mm now and again then the 2x is a good option.
i didn't know the AF difference between the A9 and the other was so different
I found that a6400 with 100 400 gm (600 mm equivalent to full frame) give me much better IQ than a7III with 200 600, and 100 400 with a6400 or A7III is much faster to lock in target in focus, especially in low light situations. I do view photos in a 37 inch 4k monitor. I am not sure that make difference. I read everywhere that 200 600 just as sharp if not sharper than 100 400. But not in my case, maybe I got a bad copy of 200 600.
The 100-400 does have a slight advantage in low light. My 200-600 is slightly sharper than my 100-400 at f/5.6 but at f/6.3 there is no difference. There will definitely be some copy variation unfortunately :(
I rented the 200-600 with an a6400 and got very good results photographing birds in flight. The ergonomics and handling of the a6400 is not that great unfortunately which is the main reason why I moved from Sony APSC to Full frame 3 years ago. I have an A7R2 but the buffer and focusing is not that great which is the main reason I rented the a6400 when I rented the lens. I just picked up the 100-400 and 1.4 TC used and sort of having some regrets about not getting the 200-600. Main reason I got the 100-400 was physical size. The image quality from the 100-400 is great but I find the handling of the zoom ring awkward as compared to the 200-600. The internal zooming is nice.
My question is, what body do I get since I have an A7R2 to take advantage of the buffer and focusing issues I have? I’m considering the a6400 just for value. Plus it gives me the extra reach. In hindsight I would like to get an A7R3 but it would still cost about 1200 to trade up from the 2 to the 3. Any thoughts?
Sorry for the slow reply here. Have you already purchased? Either the a7III or a7R III would be my choice if you want to keep the price sensible. There have been some good offers on recently for both. Tim
Great comparison. When the video switched to the A9, it was like jumping to the future.
Note: for the dog, I think the best camera is actually the R3, as it still gets 90+% keeper rate with the 200-600 @600mm, but with more details at 42mp.
Thank you! Yep the a9 with no blackouts is night and day compared to the other cameras. It really depends if you need to the 42mp or not. I like the extra pixels for wildlife where I'll normally crop a lot heavier. Tim
I have been wondering the same thing and I just rented the R4 to see how it does in crop mode, still 27 megapixels and the reach of crop mode, I wonder where it would fall in a test like this?
Very informative video sir! I’ve been waiting to see how good the A7R3 compared to others w/ telephoto lens and I’m so impressed considering the 42mb 👍
Glad that you found it helpful. Although the a7R III isn't the fastest when it comes to the AF performance it's really not all that far behind either.
Music's way too much. Trying to concentrate on image quality. Had to mute it.
I wouldn't recommend looking too hard at the image quality in this video, it's better to look at the link in the description field which has full size examples.
What a great comparison
Thanks! :)
I bought the a7III just a few days ago coming from Nikon DSLR.... Jesus Christ! I am shock now by the amount of in focus photos I have taken... had my first photoshooting with a model and the EYE AF is something from another world I can't stop praising Sony for that. THANK YOU SONY!!!! The A9 autofocus is unmatched by any other camera company it is simply amazing!
Congrats on the new a7III. It certainly is a pretty nice camera. Just don't shoot with the a9 otherwise you'll want that too! :)
Probably the most useful video/review I've seen on the AF capabilities of various sony combinations, good job! Now i want an A9 to compliment my A7R3... but waiting to see if an A9Mk2 is coming.
Thank you! I'm sure an a9 II is coming - it's just a matter of when! :)
Good test and comparison! It is useful for my consideration of lens. Thanks!
GREAT VIDEO!
Thanks Helmut!
a9 the real beast 💯
200-600 is best bet
Thanks for the video. I use my 200 - 600mm on my A9 and keep meaning to try it out on my A7III but keep putting it off. In my hands, the 200 - 600mm handles a lot better than the 100 - 400mm G Master and I have no refgrets in selling mine.
Thanks for commenting Pete. Apart from the weight I prefer using the 200-600 as well, the internal zoom and short throw makes it so much easier for tracking subjects. I'd like to keep both but will probably have to sell my 100-400 soon.
@@AlphaShooters. I initially considered keeping my 100 - 400mm but had two issues: I use a Cotton Carrier G3 twin system with my A9 + 200 - 600mm on the chest holster and my A7III + 90mm macro on the hip holster. This works well; but the 100 - 400mm is too long and bulky for the hip holster when carrying the 200 - 600mm. I was also unable to work out a scenario in which I would use the 100 - 400mm in preference to my 200 - 600mm. So it had to go.
@@AlphaShooters I have to agree with that analysis i am keeping 100-400 for video though
@@klackon1 If they brought out the 100-400 now they would not sell well and there should be a number of second hand ones coming on the market soon
Thanks for a great video. What focus area did you use? Wide, zone etc. Were focus settings such as tracking sensitivity and Priority Set in AF-C all at default values?
For all cameras I used the wide focus area and default focus settings.
Mightily impressive!
You could argue the statistics strictly mathematically which is correct, but still you could see the A9 had no problems what so ever despite throwing any of the lenses at it, so clearly the difference makes less of an issue with the right tool, the lens is inconsequential.
Thank you N0rdman! The camera definitely plays a larger role in the AF performance than the lenses themselves. I can't imagine how the a9 II is going to improve further on what is already a pretty amazing camera. Tim
@@AlphaShooters Yes, Sony will have to do something really spectacular to up the game with the next gen of A9.
The A7R-IV almost flattened most competition in most respects and what could possibly the A9-II do in the sports/action shooters "guild".
thanks for conducting the test... I love my a9 even more! Can't wait for 6.0 firmware update this month!
BUT, just curious (sorry if it has already been pointed out), what are the chances that Frank was fatigued by the time you got to the a9 and was running slower?
Glad you liked the test Ken. Looking forward to the v6 firmware as well. Frank may have been a little slower by the time I got to the a9 but looking through the videos again I don't think there's much difference in the speed, especially if you compare the a7R III at 600mm with the first a9 video. Hard to say 100% without attaching a GPS to him :) Tim
Helpful info. It has swayed me back to consider the size as a deciding factor. The smaller of the two just seems more reasonable to have on me while moving through the wild. Anyone else find this to be their conclusion?
The 100-400 definitely packs smaller and feels lighter on the back. But once you've carried the 200-600 around for a few months you get used to it's larger size and weight.
Thanks so much! This is exactly the kind of test I was looking for!
Glad to hear you liked the test Zefah :)
I've been waiting for this kind of comparison. Thank you
Glad that you enjoyed it! - Tim
Should try this again with new firmware on the a7,s with animal eye af.
Animal eye-af is useless when he's running towards the camera, it just doesn't work this quickly yet. Works fine for slow movement though.
The A6400 is the only crop sensor in the test(thanks for adding it) so 87% hit rate is actually very good with its extra 1.5 zoom and very low price.
The A6400 is a great camera for the price. I sold my A6500 to help pay for the A7R IV but my A6400 won’t be going anywhere just yet.
Exactly what I am looking for! Thanks!
You're welcome! :)
👉Discover our new community forum: www.alphashooters.com/community/
View my rolling comparison here: www.alphashooters.com/compare/sony-fe-200-600-vs-fe-100-400-gm/
Sony FE 200-600 G Check Prices or Buy
👉Amazon (US) - amzn.to/31zRegi
👉Adorama (US) - adorama.rfvk.net/4BzjG
👉Amazon (UK) - amzn.to/33MypIG
Sony FE 100-400 GM Check Prices or Buy
👉Amazon (US) - amzn.to/31DdciD
👉Adorama (US) - adorama.evyy.net/mOBvy
👉Amazon (UK) - amzn.to/2Z9r5s1
My Amazon Store (US) for Alpha Shooters
👉www.amazon.com/shop/alphashooters
The above links are affiliate links. If you decided to buy something after clicking a link, I may receive a small commission.
Any questions on either of these lenses just drop them below.
Happy Shooting! Tim
instagram.com/timothymayo79/
could you show some images from the 200-600 on a crop body at 100 or 200%?
im currently on canon 80d and sigma 150-600 sport and want to switch to sony, but im concered that i might lose sharpnes when i switch.
@@cryvee Hi Max. Sorry for the slow reply. Your comment ended up in the spam folder for some reason. I've added a couple of sample images from the a6400 although both are fairly high ISO at 1600. I'll try to get some further images from the a6400 added soon at lower ISOs if the weather allows. You'll find them here: www.alphashooters.com/compare/sony-fe-200-600-vs-fe-100-400-gm/#samples
@@AlphaShooters awesome. thats greatly appreciated! also looking forward to the coming pictures :)
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 +👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🐕
this give me an idea if i will get this with my 6600.
It might be worth considering the E 70-350 as well, it just depends how much reach you need.
@@AlphaShooters I've the 70 -350. It is pretty good but for Bird in flight, it just isn't quite good enough.
Nice video, you were using the display instead of EVF right? so it is more difficult to nail the focus, I am waiting your review of BIF I think it is going to be difficult to record, thank you for your job. I will try to do it too
Thanks Efrain. Yes I had to use the display of the Atomos Ninja V since the EVF is disabled with the HDMI info display turned on, which also limits the recording to 1080p unfortunately. I used a gimbal to make it a little easier. I've already tried with BIF but when shooting handheld it's too difficult to keep track of the birds using the Ninja V because of the extra weight and slight screen delay, I'll be trying with a gimbal next time so can hopefully get some video, otherwise I'll just have to disable the info display so I can use the EVF.
@@AlphaShooters right, using android phone: ua-cam.com/video/HkLBZeftIpo/v-deo.html
When you shot the A6400 at 600mm on the 200-600, you were effectively at 900mm. Yes? And it looks like that worked pretty well.
Well. You are still at 600mm on the a6400 but the field of view will be equivalent to 900mm on a full-frame camera. It appears to work well on the a6400 for everything I've shot so far including birds in flight.
@@AlphaShooters Awesome . thx!
Thank you great video!!
Glad you liked it!
Not exactly a very fast moving dog. but nice test still
Thanks Justin. I'll give him some Red Bull next time ;) - Tim
Superb testing - well done. Exactly what I wanted to know backed up by data.
Glad that you found it helpful! :)
Thank you for the comparison videos, Tim. Would you recommend an A6400 in late 2022 as a second body accompanying my A7iii as I shoot wildlife & BIF with the 200-600, macro with 90mm, and landscape (a 28mm is currently my widest glass) in each of my photog trip. I have a tight budget and thinking of having the A6400 with focus tracking, affordable aps-c lenses plus some extra reach on the 200-600 would be a great option.
Would love to know your opinions and thank you for the kind response. You've got a new subscriber.
Nice test! I would be satisfied with any of those keeper rates. It's obviously the a9 and then everything else :-) But there are other considerations, as always. Thanks!
The a9 is definitely hard to beat when it comes to AF performance. Will be interesting how they can improve on this with the a9 II!
@@AlphaShooters Or come reasonably close with the a7rIV!
yes yes .. bro .. share more videos with birds shoots on 200-600 , i am in doubt , which super telephoto to choose. the auto focus speed on 200--600 looks very promising compared to the one which i have, sigma version. Very interesting to see more videos .. I seen your video shows very clear comparison on performance differences between two lenses and 4 cameras .. and i like the summary very much.. thanks for spending time to create this videos .. keep on ..
Thank you Prasanth. The 200-600 is definitely worth saving for and my preferred choice now over the 100-400 + 1.4x for birds in flight despite the extra weight.
Alpha Shooters thanks for the comments
Not fair comparison! Dog was tired and running slower with the A9 test!!!!
Maybe a little slower, but the a9 nails him all of the time even when he's running flat out.
What a great review. I guess you could say that in general, Sony rocks for action photography.
Thank you. Sony has had a while longer than most to perfect the autofocus in their mirrorless bodies and it shows.
I remember I read somewhere that the 200-600 wasn’t labeled as GM because it’s not as fast as 100-400 GM .. but with sharpness from what I saw online think they both look great, do you know of any reason why the 200-600 is G only ?
that a9 result was so ridiculous it had me laughing... I'm about to buy this camera, for... dog and action lol! I use the 7d mike with sigma 105 1.4 and sigma sport 70-200 f2.8. My new setup will be the A9 with the 135 f1.8 G master and I'm torn between the new tampon 70-180 or this 100-400... that A9 and 100-400 performance is mind glowingly good... coming from crop sensor to FF I think the 135 and 100-400 is the more complete setup tbh. 400mm at 5.6 on FF gives lovely out of focus backgrounds and appears tac sharp!
what's your thoughts on my thoughts? lol
7d mkii*
I'd go with the Sony FE 100-400. I have the Tamron 70-180 and although I haven't used it a great deal yet I seem to have a lot of missed shots of my dog when using it, mainly when he's running towards me like in the videos. I will do a comparison with the Sony FE 70-200 F2.8 soon.
@@AlphaShooters thanks for the reply! My set up choice has changed... i'm going to go with the 135 & 200-600 instead of the 100-400. I will either wait on sigma to release their 70-200 or I will go for the 70-200 g master.
Looking forward to the comparison!
Thank you for this video. :)
Awesome test! The A9 is just AMAZING!
Thanks Anthony. The a9 does kick ass! :)
That dog deserves a cookie
He prefers cheese and sausages :)
I have the Sony a7III and I am still very confused of which one I should buy, also the 200-600mm is cheaper than the 100-400mm.
Yes of course the first is much bigger but you have more zoom.
If you shoot a lot of wildlife then personally I'd be going for the 200-600 as that extra reach is very useful. But if you like backpacking then you might appreciate the lighter weight of the 100-400. I know it's not an easy choice. I ultimately decided to keep both at least for the time being. I prefer using the 100-400 for sports, shooting bugs close up like dragonflies, or traveling. Otherwise I'll always grab the 200-600 for that extra reach and lovely internal zoom.
Thanks for the test 👍🏻
I use the a6400 with the 70-200 f4 for cat and dogs photography, it works really good, I love the fast auto focus 👍🏻
In the Future i will upgrade to a9 or a7 III with the 200-600 for wildlife.
Glad that you liked it Kevin. The A6400 with the 70-200 F4 is a very nice combo. Was using it just the other day with my dog Frank. a7III and a9 prices are coming down now and the a9 should fall further with the a9II possibly being announced next month. Might be some used bargains to be had as well!
Alpha Shooters
I hope so. Have a nice weekend 👍🏻
great idea, a9 for speed and low light I would personally go for wildlife
Which camera do you suggest for fast AF bird photography. A7Riii or A7iii ? (sorry a7Riv is not an option for me)
Both the a7III and a7RIII are great options for bird photography. My pick would be the a7R III for the extra resolution. Although the a7IV is now also an option. I hope to get a video up shooting birds in flight with it early next month.
@@AlphaShooters thank you
It tough to consider the sharpness of the R camera in comparison as the much higher mpix reveals the shortcomings of lenses and focusing. If you dropped it to 24mpix and then compared, it would be a better test. The bottom line, you must consider the mpix of the camera in the mix.
The A1 just changed the game
Excellent test 👍🏻 I'd love to have seen how the A9 with 200-600 + 1.4x performs 😁
Thanks Mark. I haven't done a video of this combo yet but it does perform very well providing you have enough light.
@@AlphaShooters Great, thanks for letting me know 👍
that a9 is a darn beast! It's insane. Not having any blackout.. Oh man, the dreams I'm about to have!
The a9 is definitely a beast. Will be interesting to see how they can improve upon it with the a9II.
Alpha Shooters I couldn’t agree more!
Nice video sir....... & ........thanks for sharing knowledge.
Thank you Mali!
Great test ! Thank you. What are your focusing setting?
Thanks! I think I was using wide area focus here although you have a few different options for dogs. Zone focus works well as do the tracking modes if you have these on your camera.
the Combo A7R IV and 200-600mm is not great.
I have no issues with mine and I know many others who don't as well. But then I also know quite a few people with focussing issues. I don't know if it's quality control or something that Sony might fix with a firmware update, but they haven't done anything till now unfortunately :(
WOW I have been trying to make a camera decision and you just did all my homework, Thank you so much , you have a new sub
Cheers Longrider! Which camera have you decided for then?
@@AlphaShooters I don't yet I have an order for rental on the A7R4 to see what it can do
Thanks for the review,
it's just what I was looking for
Cheers!
Awesome! Thanks! Wonder how the new A7RIV manages...
I'm curious as well. I'm not going to buy one anytime soon but will rent one when available here to do a similar test.
Thank you.
Did you retry that 1.4 test with the R3..it seems odd that it dropped performance so much when it beat or match the A73 in all the others without the 1.4 adapter
I did a couple of runs with the a7R III + 1.4x and the results were the same.
This is the first video I've been able to find showing the performance of the 200-600 on both the RIII and III (everyone slaps it on the a9 and RIV -- we get it, they are amazing lol), so thank you for this. Looks like you're using AF-C Wide but I was curious what did you have your tracking sensitivity set to, 1-Lock? As I mentioned, I have the RIII and III and was looking forward to using the 200-600 for BIF.
Hi Chris, glad that you found the video helpful! I think off the top of my head it was probably set to 3 for this video. I'd normally use 1 for birds in flight. All the best, Tim
Best comparison between these cameras I’ve seen so far. Thanks.
Thank you Robert!
Thank you for the review!
Thanks Michael!
Subscribed. A very informative video.
Awesome, thank you!
Very impressive work. Thanks for doing this.
Glad you liked it John! :)
dog: i am tired
Great video! Does stabilization turn off when it is on a tripod automatically like 100-400 GM or does it still work?
Thanks Viktor. I've not noticed that the stabilization turns off on a tripod on either the 100-400 or the 200-600. I just tried it on my 100-400 and it stays on unless you turn if off manually.
@@AlphaShooters I have 100-400 GM too and by recording video on tripod stabilization turns off automatically.
@@viktorskalican1980 Quite strange. I've only checked it on my a7III but in movie mode and shooting video whilst on a tripod the OSS remains enabled unless I turn it off. Which camera are you using?
@@AlphaShooters I have a7III, the stabilization stays on, but is idle. Turns on up to when the strong motion.
@@viktorskalican1980 I think this is the default behaviour. It only kicks in when it detects movement. On mine I wouldn't say that the movement needs to be very strong before it kicks in, it works with the slightest movement even on my tripod. When I get a second I'll compare it to the 200-600 to see if there is any difference here. - Tim