This Closed Ecosystem Received CONSTANT LIGHT For 4 Years - This Happened
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In this video we take a look at the now over four years old closed ecosystem that is always illuminated and therefore never sees darkness. The constantly lit ecosphere is now a year old, and in this update we take a look at how the ecosystem in the jar has developed so far and how it's doing now. We also talk about the effect constant light and the absence of darkness has on the animals, algae and ecosystem as a whole.
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the snails might be missing minerals for shells and this might be the reason they keep on dying .
The same thing happens in an enclosed isopod colony. Mineral levels are a hard limit on populations that depend on exoskeletons/shells to survive.
It's amazing the snails have persisted for four years on a set limit of minerals. In a closed jar shared with other organisms, and always illuminated! Mind boggling indeed.
I wonder, how are you supposed to give them the minerals?
They need something that decompose old shells quick enough so the new snails can reuse old minerals
@@D9fjg could try adding some limestone to the jar ahead of time so that it dissolves into the water as needed.
@@baileescott401let them evolve to adapt
The sunlight being darker than the LEDs must be their night time lol
that makes me think, if he kept the jar in a dark area with the LED lights constantly on, could it have given significantly different results?
Also the LEDs probably were not full spectrum LEDs so there would have been different wavelengths present during natural light and LED light periods
@@K6V6JHG0W9Yeah, I was wondering what would happen if full spectrum sunlight lamps were used.
The sunlight likely isn’t actually darker at all. The sun is very bright, and it illuminates the whole room, not just the jar, making the jar seem dark in comparison to when the room is dark and the jar is the only thing illuminated. The ambient light from outside is around 15-20k lumens, and up to 38k if in direct sunlight. The brightest led chip is at 1.2k lumens, but those are really expensive. He probably has about 4-5k lumens in the jar, but I couldn’t know exactly because the camera also adjusts to the darkness.
The sun is actually way brighter
I wonder if too many lifeforms that depend on calcium were born, that might explain the die off. Anything with an Exoskeleton or shell will draw calcium from the water, and over 4 years with such a small environment, its possible all the available calcium is tied up in the exoskeleton and shells of the various lifeforms. I wonder if a Jar with some crushed coral to buffer the water would allow for the long-term survival of a snail population.
Older ones die off a few small ones remain. They eat the shells after the other animals clean them. Cycle continues...
Maybe calcium would persist in the environment but there is a tipping point due to how long takes to recirculate from decomposition.
I don’t this is just my uneducated reckon.
Exoskeleton is made of chitin here, not calcium carbonate
From my experience keeping arthropods they still use calcium in their exoskeletons even while being primarily chitin
@@amandadonegan2137 If enough animals with a shell are alive at one point, there is not enough calcium for the babies to grow making them die. the adults could cling on for a long while purely on the ones dying from old age, but not enough to reproduce. leading to extinction.
As someone who has kept aquariums, I can tell you that the algae growth in lines is usually because there is some structure on the glass that it clung to that just so happened to be in straight lines. Sometimes its scratches, sometimes its just a bit of dirt that got wiped on the glass, but algae like in straight lines is almost always caused by this
You can also observe this in cell culture if there are "defects" in the slides that leave grooves to adhere to. :)
yeah, those LEDs were not really doing anything biologically. if it's not UV light, the only thing it affects is circadian rhythms lol
@@whenyoudownrng You know that photosynthesis isn't done with UV light, but visible light? These LEDs delivered the light needed for photosynthesis, so they grew better.
Plants, as far as I've seen, don't really care what kind of light they get. What matters more is the strength of the light, or in other words the amount of Lux that the light puts out. The spectrum of color is also pretty important since plants benefit from some wavelengths more than others, but if it's a white light it should have most of them already. It might be missing some blues and UV, but your plant will still grow underneath it if it outputs enough Lux
@@KittyMakesWaffles how can the plants not care about what type of light they get, and yet still need a specific spectrum of light? Other than the spectrum of light, what is there to distinguish a "type of light"?
Eight Eyed Blood Hedgehog
Cool band name unlocked!
seems like error in translation to me, at least in german; the german word for hedgehog is "igel", while the word for leech is "egel"
@@gshaindrichnahh that’s fine from Dutch
And that was the joke
Octocular Bloodgehog!
gotta go tell everyone about eight eyed blood hedgehogs
@@gshaindrichThat could certainly explain the origin of that word. For whatever reason Dutch no longer has that word for leeches, calling them “bloedzuigers” (bloodsuckers) instead. So, his translation is correct for modern Dutch, egel does mean hedgehog, but perhaps it meant leech before
That football field comparison was very helpful thank you
For me it was a little complicated because I had to convert football fields into bananas; 7/250 banana to be exact.
I was lost when he was talking about those centithingies, but luckily he cleared it up. I think it would've been more appropriate to give their length in furlongs though.
Converting it to Bald Eagles helped me a lot
1/1800th of a football field. A football field is 100 yards, so it’s 1/18 of a yard, so it’s 1/9th of half a yard. Yeah that tracks
Wait, are we talking about American football or European football?
RIP boogieworms, you will all be missed
Rip
Not the boogieworms! 😭😭😭😭⚰️
I wonder if their dying out is correlated to the deaths of the adult bladder snail population - several dead snails would affect the nitrate levels in the water potentially bringing it above the boogie worm tolerance levels.
I would like to test the ph levels throughout the experiment @@RaymondSynold
Boogie wonderlaaaaaaand
“They take the glass butt. Sorry: they take the glass, but…”
Gotta respect the ZeFrank tribute
Those always get me. Never fail to make me laugh
@@opposumness3107 5 year old's humour
@@Max-zo6rvBetter to have childish humor than to have a closed mindset, signalling that your humor is probably set in stone.
@@Max-zo6rv The humor is that you eat Pizza with Mountain Dew for breakfast. Fatty
Oh, he's russian..
Anyways, ukrainian drone
I appreciate how seriously he takes his presentation's. Seeing him introduce the topic while sitting confidently in a suit really cement's the science vibe and I love it.
Please learn how to use an apostrophe.
@@eddiebendigo7317
His comment is readable and easy to understand, it's fine as it is.
Real scientists wear boxers only. This is a known fact.
A suit is a sensible expense when you're 350k subs. 👌
And I love that fact combined with how he's just filming this at home on the porch in his backyard. 25 years ago, in America, this would've been done by a 70 year old man and presented as a PBS special.
I know my isopods sleep. They like to hide under wood and bark pieces and have a nap. I know this by how long it takes some of them to react when I turn over the piece of bark. When they wake up, they run away and try to hide again.
Theres a whole city under that fluffy algae forest on the floor...and tunnels.
Ever consider just getting a dog?
@@ljre3397or a dog sized isopod
That's the cutest thing I have ever heard. Shy isopods!
@@ljre3397 Have you ever considered getting isopods?
Instantly clicked.
Instantly lame
Same
Same 😆
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Same
@8:00 You know, it could be that the snails you're viewing are actually adults that have undergone a sort of island dwarfism process. How many generations is four years worth?
A lot
I have the same observation with my cherry shrimp descendants after many years of inbreeding.
Oops! New species!
@@gregghorner9107 Yeah I had some shrimp in a 20 l nanotank next to my 200 l tank (from which I migrated a few shrimp, so same origin) and they were visibly smaller after "a while" (a year at least). Although it could be because the food was consistently more scarce in the smaller tank I guess and not necessarily genetic.
@@officersoulknight6321Yay!!
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's closed ecosystem.
Underrated comment
It even has a watermark...
**Drops jar**
@@ultimaxkom8728it even has a waterbear...
Have you considered combining a bunch of your old jars together in a larger aquarium? All the things left at the end of experiments are hardy in one way or another. Maybe make an aquarium with an always dark hidey hole, a corner that always has the lights on, etc...
The hell kinda Fallout scenario -
That sounds amazing I wonder if they would go to war with each other lol. The light vs the darkness haha
I wonder if the light creatures would prefer the dark and vice versa if combined
A light and dark side would be really really interesting….
Edit: grammar
RIP our visually gifted and veiny, spiky mammal imposter. ❤ We will miss you.
I hypothesize they have speciated to a tiny form (perhaps living at the bottom of the muck) - or something like that. :) Add darkness periods and I predict they will return; an interesting possible experiment - imo.
Is life ! Rotary evolutionary.... It keeps going, nothing to be waist, it will be reborn in a lesser life form more efficient for the environment in time.
@@MichaelHolloway oh yeah, that would be!
@@LightInnDmountain I'm aware. I just wanted an excuse to say “visually gifted and veiny, spiky mammal” lol
@@MichaelHolloway for them to become speciated there would need to be a somewhat diverse population as a baseline before the bottleneck , on top of that entirely restructuring niche and body structure in a short period is a drastic change for such a limited amount of time. Most rapid speciazation ideas refer to subtle changes, as opposed to what youre proposing which would take gradual development. Due to the fact they are nocturnal predators which need food to reproduce (and need to reproduce in order to change), it is likely they just died out.
I was expecting to see the critters evolve sunglasses. 😎
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Nothing created and produced by their sponsorships has ever been music just strange sounds and laughs 😂
@@michaelcoldwater7147the Monkeys or the band?
@@michaelcoldwater7147it’s still music it’s just music you don’t like
I read that monks at a temple or shrine in Japan, they raise bell crickets that sing during the day. Normally, they only sing in the dark, but according to the monks, the technique was to raise them in constant light.
I kept (and still have) a airtight jar 6 years on and at about 3-4 years, the snails all died out. I never did ascertain why. I just assumed the balance of minerals or oxygen in the jar tipped and a mass extinction occurred. Only mine had a day/night cycle.
Another person said it could be the calcium being bound up in shells meaning the new snails can't make shells and die
When I was about 9 years old I noticed this one little pothole filled with water, and within that water small creatures zooming about that looked like sesame seeds completely filling the entire puddle, for about 2 months this giant puddle was filled to the brim with those creatures until the school filled in the hole with dirt. Forever I had just called them sesame bugs with no clue what they were until now, now I know they are ostracods thanks!
14:25 idea: a fake moon one. 2 weeks of light. 2 weeks of pure dark. Repeat
1/18,000 of a football field is what stood between me and a career in the NFL. I'm an alcoholic now, I will never forget that measurement.
Don’t give up
never give up anything
except alcoholism, you have to give it up
It’s ok NFL sucks. Million better things to aspire to
@@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme Thanks.
I was just about to give up my life of crime, but you convinced me to stick it out.
at least you got to be an alcoholic though
9:18 as an American, this really helps, thank you.
Edit: As a recently new viewer of your channel, I am excited to see new videos and updates of series like this one.
It really put it into perspective for me
9:13 I appreciate you giving an imperial conversion without making some sort of joke, as an American I found this helpful and refreshing
I had a container with water and a few rocks closed for 11 yrs but when we moved houses my sister accidentally dropped it, biggest tragedy ever 😭 i used to watch the container when i would get upset or bored, basically it was just something to turn to whenever, it was fun watching the little creatures live life
You’re so cool I like you
As an American, I really appreciate letting us know how many football fields long the worm was. I was confused before but that really helped me out. Thanks.
Maybe you got some sort of toxic buildup in the substrate, gas for example. When it finally came out it produced a mass extinction killing adults. Once other microbes consumed the toxic compound the critters hatching from the eggs repopulated.
3:10 wags his shell like a dog!
You never know what you'll come across while scrolling through UA-cam, for example this video. I would've never searched it out but darn if I didn't watch the whole thing with great interest. Keep up the good work, you have a new subscriber in me.
Mama always said that life is like a jar of fresh water ecosystems.
Tracing back my youtube history over the last year or so, I think you are the reason I now have a fulfilling aquarium hobby! One of your videos randomly came up and slowly got me more interested in microorganisms and the elegance of the food web in every ecosystem.
Ooooh really cool !
I saw Eight-Eyed Blood Hedgehog in concert back in ‘93. Epic show.
Altho ostracods and copepods may or may not sleep(I’m sure they most likely do) almost all organisms we have studied have a circadian rhythm, or an internal rhythm which roughly takes about a day to complete and syncs up with the 24 hr day on earth primarily through the light and dark cycle provided by the sun rising and setting. When organisms are removed from an external cue that syncs up their internal clock to the external world, their internal clock starts to “free run”. Basically pretty much no organism has an internal clock with a periodicity of 24 hrs, so it will start to slowly(or rapidly if greatly different from 24 hrs) get out of sync with our actual clocks until a nocturnal animal starts to come out during the day for example. In this experiment that you set up, you are essentially removing that external cue by subjecting them to constant light, Altho if you’re turning off the leds during the day that subtle change in amount of light received might be enough for their internal clocks to sync to, but these creatures will still go through periods of high activity and low activity, possibly even sleep, but it just might not be in sync with the external day night cycle. Another interesting thing tho is that these organisms might act upon each others internal rhythms bc circadian rhythms aren’t only synced up to light, but a myriad of other factors, and I’ve always thought it’d be interesting to see how mixing and matching different species would affect their activity patterns and free runs. Sincerely, someone working in a lab that studies chronobiology😉
Makes me wonder what life on a tidally locked xenoplanet would look like with this kind of situation
Great video! I thought the 24 hr. light would have more of a negative impact on the animals. I suppose it makes sense that putting more energy into an ecosystem would cause it to thrive. Maybe an interesting idea for a future project would be identical ecospheres that receive only certain wavelengths of light. Maybe one that gets only UV or infrared light?
Only UV would likely kill everything. Maybe not tardigrades.
had absolutely no idea what you meant by "half a centimeter" until you converted it into a proper, easy to understand unit... thank you!
1/18000 of a football field is just so much easier to visualize
@@bloodysoup9240how many eagle wingspans is that? Or school buses?
You know most of the world is metric right? Your kinda the odd one out, half a centimetre is really easy to understand 🤔
@@unoriginalsyn lol im aware, i was being sarcastic. we dont measure things in football fields in america (unless its on tv for some reason)
@@bloodysoup9240don't break the illusion for them
I can't believe it's been 4 years. I remember when you started this one
American here. The football field measurement truly made me laugh
1:00 “Eight-Eyed Blood Hedgehog” is metal af. It sounds like a heavy metal band or a ninjutsu/summon animal in Naruto. Really f’in cool.
I love the ducks in the background, very entertaining
Why did UA-cam need to show this to me?
Why did i clikc it?
Why did i watch it all?
Love it
thanks for the 1/18000 of a football feild, i nearly died when i heard centimeter
I would love to see you go ahead and open a bunch of your longer-lived eco-jars and take representative samples from them in order to make a succession jar of species that seem to cope well with tight nutrient loops. If you have any terrarium, you could use some of the soil from it and some long-lived plants and make a succession paludarium.
Oh woah I remember the making of this thing. Never thought I’d see it four years later! Cool stuff
I still can't believe how different Jars looks from how I imagined him from his voice
What an exciting update!!!!! Thank you for the video!
you're probably in my top 5 channels man. I'm so glad you're back in full swing, huge inspiration to my
I'm very happy to see you've been in your fancy pants a lot lately. I hope this means you're feeling a lot better lately! It's always very nice to see you! I really liked learning about your no light ecosystem!!
Sir David Attenborough shoild be watching his back… there’s a new nature narrator in town!
How many closed ecosystem do you have? I would love to see a video of you showing your full collection of jars
Can you cover the life cycle of a pony in a heavy saline fluid jar?
You're a thoroughly sick man hahahahah
what
1. Pony Goes in Jar.
2. Jar is filled and sealed.
3. Abstract horror that will stain your nightmares forever .
4. Boogyworms
I don't think it'd live long
The life cycle of a toy pony in a mason jar filled with a suspicious liquid.
You are the Tarantino under the jar filmers. Long time fan!
3:44
"Who knows...
I DON'T!" 🗿
😂
UA-cam hid your stuff from me, now I habe 8 month of content to catch up on...
Wait a minute this is awsome
Maybe your copepods are smaller due to living in a smaller environment (in this case a jar) for the last 4 years. A bit like island dwarfism or something?🧐 I’m no expert in such things, but maybe something as small as those could adapt in that timeframe. Very cool video my friend 😎
10:49 that duck just fit's in perfectly 👌👌
You are quite a charming, and intelligent content creator. Instantly a fan.
Very distinguished gentleman! 🎉 Thanks for this interesting video
The Anti-Gamer Ecosystem.
This guy is the right level of unhinged and educational. Subscribed.
Congrats on your presentation. You manage to hit the right note every time.
in mine i have a flaworm that measures exactly 1/36,432 football fields. I also have a strange triop measuring 23/3422667 freedom bases long
Yippie the silly jar guy returns once again! (To make a video)
Are you Dr. Gero's 2nd grandson?
Any follow up this far in deserves a like
He looks so dapper in that suit . How cute
Let me guess: free floating algae. I've done this as well with the same result.
The reason is algae have short life spans and are capable of rejuvenating themselves efficiently during cell division. Most other plants require dark periods occasionally for 'housekeeping'.
This is the first time I was suggested a video of this subject. I'm intrigued!
5:49 that is exactly the color I dream of lemonade being.
hey, what unique project !!! did you somehow quantifice the lux difference between day and night? would be interesting to know much brightness they were exposed during the two difference day cycles at max and at least. this jar reminds me of the far northest place where there is 6 months day and six months dawn :))
I JUST WATCHED THE LAST UPDATE ON THIS ONE LAST NIGHT WHAT ARE THE CHANCES YOU POST THIS TODAY!
eventually everything reduces to ostracod and worms, all my jars +2 yrs become an algae mat with ostracod
it's kinda sad :/
I really wonder how much diversity you can push things with a jar, I highly suspect you need stuff like water circulation, or some un-evenness of environment (like a stone mountain or something similar)
Question: what's keeping the oxygen levels up? I would think the levels would be low.
Oxygen production is constant all day.
Algae I assume
Im a beginner in closed ecosystems, i have 2 terrariums that are glass jars and those are closed ecosystems, any tips? Im dutch aswell! Im guessing ur somewhere in Brabant. Im in leiden, maybe we could meet one day? Im 13 years old. And im a huge fan. Let me know!
the description says it is "always illuminated and therefore never receives light"
Dude, this is a war crime
You're so smart. "Interesting to note is that the
eight-eyed blood hedgehog is a nighttime predator.
Since nighttime never arrived in this jar it might
have stopped hunting as well, it could explain why
it's the only animal that did not survive in this
ecosystem for several years."
It can live only for two years. It was only one in jar.
It's okay, I can picture a centimeter, despite being American.
* Cleans 10mm pistol. *
What I also found interesting is that "Egel" in Dutch means Hedgehog, while "Egel" in German means Leech, while Hedgehog means "Igel".
I looked it up, and it seems that Egel and Igel are related to snake or worm, and an "Igel" would be a snake- or worm-eater. Language is interesting.
you should defenetly make some life in jars with added preassure and some with a vaccum , the one with added preassure should produce bigger life forms and the vaccum should produce smaller life =) or it might be vice verce, but a comparising of those would be rly interesting . problem might be to find a container that support pressure and vaccum without loosing preassure over time=/ .
Brand new member of the Jarmy here, I've spent the last day or so watching years and years of your content, and I just gotta say, it's amazing how consistently good your presentation has been. It's clear you're passionate about this, and it's infectious. Keep it up!
This is your reminder to not drink river water.
Haha snail trails lol 11:24
"For my american friends, 1/18,000ths of a football field. Hope that helps"
100% 🍔🍟🇺🇲🎆 God bless the USA 😂
I hear the feral green parakeets of the Randstad in the background :D
Next time someone tell me about earth and entropy I send them this
Basically the plot of shadowbringers
I immediately went to look for this comment lol
1/18000 of a football field is the typical American measure. Thank you for the translation 🙇♂️
1/18.000 of a footballfield, thank you so much. I just learned a new way to roast my american fake friends hahaha
Maybe the snail population got too big and ate too much algae, then oxygen production and food was down so they all died rapidly
You are going to end life on this planet by unleashing a new life form that is.going to take over. 😂😂😂
Your content is amazing and insightful. Your delivery just as good! Keep being yourself and thank you for your contribution of your experiments. 👍👍
9:33 "They take the glass butt!" I see you must also be a fan of Ze Frank!!
0:30 Heard, though, doesn't the temperature of the LEDs affect bio-logy different
the light the hue whadeber
Could you repeat this experiment starting with the The Miller-Urey experiment
Man, you are so funny.. I expected you to look older based on your voice.. these videos are awesome! Thanks
Not hedgehog, eel. 😂
In German it also Sounds similar.
Hedgehog = Igel
Leech= Egel
The ecosystem ying yang has been completed.
Final Fantasy XIV Shadowbringers moment
I've just discovered your channel and I really enjoyed this video. No crazy fast editing, no intrusive music and no ads; just intriguing, relaxing content. Keep up the good work. :)
You should keep it going long enough to see if any species evolve
Maybe large snails died because of the lack of calcium to build their shells.