The posh beatnik is my dad, he didn't have a posh mummy and daddy and they had no money to help him, he has done for himself his whole life. He and Wiz were great friends and still are but he had not a penny to his name and still hasn't much (he just loved the freedom). His wife left him to bring up three children by himself and he did a fantastic job of it, he is a wonderful very loving man who worked as a gas meter reader for 20 odd years just to keep his kids with him.
In about 60 or maybe 61 I was in Newquay with th family I seen a guy leaning on a wall leading down to th Towan beach, I started over to have a chat he looked different n I wanted to talk, my dad grabbed me n pulled me along saying “stay away they are beatnicks” 🤣 but th life appealed I think. Did many festivals when older
7.13 is Arnold my dad, grew up in Harrow, evacuted to Wales, now lives in Battersea but I am afraid he is not famous. He and Wiz are still very good friends.
Wizz Jones is still out there..at the age of 70....but never mind his age...he played two blinding sets at Moniaive Guitar Festival this weekend...and still joined in the after hours session in the pub till 4am after... A true legend...go and see him!...book him!!
That guy @ is stood right by my old house at top of berry road!......I keep looking for my mates mum in this clip who was friends with wizz jones in north London the 60s, he used to tell me about their trips to newquay in the early 60s...sadly neither of them are about to ask about it anymore......
This is great! I’m from California. Doing the same as these beatniks were, I’m in St. Ives, Cornwall following Donovan’s path! I just wanna play the guitar and travel and spread the good vibes!
Seen this on the tele in 1960; went down there in the early 70's walked the north cornwall coastal footpathpath down to Penzance, the beaches above Newquay are epic
This is amazing. I am a Bay Area hippie in my 20s....it's nice to know that, as early as 1960 in England, there were beatniks / hippies. Thanks for posting!!!
In 1972 I arrived in Glastonbury, Somerset and discovered that most of the cafes and pubs had notices in the windows saying "NO HIPPIES". I started a campaign for hippies (so called) to wear badges claiming that they were beatniks, not hippies. In my ignorance thought this would help the situation. People laughed and put the badges on, joining in with the joke. I was given the nickname "Wiz" but, being only 19 years old at the time, I didn't know why. This old video has the answer.
I was there in 1960 and in 1961. I knew all the participants except Allen Whicker and the Publican. And still know Wizz and Sue. Unfortunately I have lost touch with Paddy. I remember Allen Whicker coming to Newquay but could not observe nor participate because I was working in the kitchen of the Great Western Hotel. And I worked there the summer of '61. I suggest that all these records have been wrongly dated in the changeover from analogue to digital!
I saw Wizz and John on Saturday night. We stayed at a local hotel and it turned out that they were staying there as well. John joined us for breakfast and we had a great chat. A really nice guy. Wizz came down just before we left. They were excellent on Saturday night.
@jonno52 And Wizz's hair was very, very long for 1960. You make a good point about the Guthrie inflections in his sound. Considering the crime, the loutishness, the incivility that plagues British cities today, it's incredible that beatniks got people twisted into such knots back then. Let us know if you run in Wizz.
Just attended a very enjoyable workshop with Wizz in Wadebridge, Cornwall, as part of their folk festival. He's a very engaging, self-deprecating guy who doesn't seem to realise what a great guitarist he is. Clive Carroll and John Renbourn were also in attendance, so good value at £5!
You couldn't make it up. The dapper cut-glass presenter followed by hippy Wizz before hippies were thought of, doing a song which pre-figured Bob Dylan's "Hard Times In New York " (on the "Folksingers' Choice" radio program Jan 1962, available on YT) by 2 years. There's truly something of Woody Guthrie in this guy's sound. Heard this evening that Wizz drops in my local in S London, is in good shape & performing regularly round here.
No, this really was shot in 1960, and broadcast in the BBC's Tonight programme on 29 August 1960. It's listed in the British Film Institute's database. Google for "Alan Whicker interviews the so-called Beatniks of Newquay."
The birth of Beat in Britain? I'm kicking myself 'cos my guitar teacher told me to check out a small local club which he thought would appeal to me. He told me only last week. I saw a poster in a music shop today advertising Wizz Jones playing there LAST Saturday night. If I'd have checked it out when my teacher told me I'd have almost certainly made the Wizz gig!
The presenters are I think Cliff Mitchelmore and Alan Whicker I think this is a bit later than 1960 the hair looks 1964/65 as does the striped top . Great clip
By 1960, a small 'beatnik' community in Newquay, Cornwall, England (including a young Wizz Jones) had attracted the attention and the abhorrence of their neighbours, for growing their hair to a length that was then quite abnormally long (past the shoulders), for which they were interviewed by the BBC's Alan Whicker for national television.The beatnik started the hippies movement it was a natural progression.He was one orignals,well it started in the 1920s germany with these back 2 nature move
I went to Penzance in the mid 60s, and couldn’t buy anything in the shops pubs or restaurants. I haven’t been back to Cornwall since then. If anyone was smelly,it certainly wasn’t me or my friends. I ended up camping on the beach in Lyme Regis which was a bit better.
Susan Hunt. Hello, you are Arnold's daughter? How nice to connect. I knew him in Newquay and of course in Barnes. Please give him my best. Res JF Burman
I'm afraid you are mistaken Sataniklusr0t1kus. And so is the title. This was shot in 1961. I met Wizz in 1960, in Newquay and we were both certainly there but this was filmed in 1961, because I was working in the Great Western Hotel's kitchen while it was filmed. In 1960 I had a 'Licence to Boatman' signed by none other than Mr Trembath, the Clerk to the Council, which I still have (expired)!
Tell you what, this was shot in 1964 or 1965. The guy at 7:10 is Jackson C Frank who moved to the UK in '64 and released his first and only record the following year, so that pretty much pins the date down.
I'd no idea that any British young men of this era had such long hair -- two or three years before the Beatles caused such a fuss with their relatively hirsute appearance! If I hadn't known it was 1960, and if they hadn't been referred to as beatniks, I'd have assumed they were hippies from about 1968, although the lack of bellbottoms might have been a bit of a giveaway.
The guy at 7:10 is an Englishman, definitely not Jackson C. Frank (There's a video clip of Jackson on YT - check the difference!) The date of this video is known for sure - it IS 1960!
I'm actually wondering if this is dated correctly. Especially Whizz Jones. That particular cut didn't come until 1968 or 1969. It's very like early King Crimson!
According to wizzjonesdotcom it's 1960 (you can see photos on the site of Wizz with long hair in the early 1960s). BBC's "Tonight" ran from 1957 to 1965, so it's definitely not the late Sixties. And some of the clothes and hairstyles of the female beatniks would have been rather out of place at Woodstock. Also, the cars on view tend to suggest the very early part of the decade (No Ford Cortinas, Vauxhall Vivas etc).
I like Wizz Jones, God bless him. I like (and have long hair). But, to be honest, that fringe he's had for 70 years is ridiculous. When he was circa 65 he looked like my mother.
On the other hand the black and white footage itself looks very 1960. Also the young people wouldn't stand to be called beatniks by 1969. I think Whizz was just one of those guys who is sartorially way ahead of his time.
All right, I'm probably hallucinating :) Maybe it's just me, but the left side of the guy's face looks quite burnt, just like Jackson's. It's difficult to tell with so few photographs/footage available of him... weird!
1960? Hair like that? These guys were like living at least 5 years ahead of their time. Maybe they can "envision" what we can do to keep our planet from getting wrecked,like some kind of new music or catalyzing societal force?!
Wow, Patty at 6:25 reminds me of Amy Winehouse! Then the other guy at 7:13 reminds me of someone but I just can't put my finger on it... Maybe it's their parents or something!
Ther was always people on earth who worn their hair long in every decade & year. this is not anything new. Long hair was worn in lincoln"s time, Einstein & Indians also had long hair.Check out the Castro Cuban revelution docu. on You tube narrated by Errol Flynn who died in 1959 not 1969. Long hair was not a 1960's or Beatles invention.
The posh beatnik is my dad, he didn't have a posh mummy and daddy and they had no money to help him, he has done for himself his whole life. He and Wiz were great friends and still are but he had not a penny to his name and still hasn't much (he just loved the freedom). His wife left him to bring up three children by himself and he did a fantastic job of it, he is a wonderful very loving man who worked as a gas meter reader for 20 odd years just to keep his kids with him.
In about 60 or maybe 61 I was in Newquay with th family I seen a guy leaning on a wall leading down to th Towan beach, I started over to have a chat he looked different n I wanted to talk, my dad grabbed me n pulled me along saying “stay away they are beatnicks” 🤣 but th life appealed I think. Did many festivals when older
7.13 is Arnold my dad, grew up in Harrow, evacuted to Wales, now lives in Battersea but I am afraid he is not famous. He and Wiz are still very good friends.
Wizz Jones is still out there..at the age of 70....but never mind his age...he played two blinding sets at Moniaive Guitar Festival this weekend...and still joined in the after hours session in the pub till 4am after...
A true legend...go and see him!...book him!!
That guy @ is stood right by my old house at top of berry road!......I keep looking for my mates mum in this clip who was friends with wizz jones in north London the 60s, he used to tell me about their trips to newquay in the early 60s...sadly neither of them are about to ask about it anymore......
I just came across this video by accident, never heard of this guy but I'm liking it!
Saw Wizz tonight! Funny guy and played really well (with John Renbourn)
This is great! I’m from California. Doing the same as these beatniks were, I’m in St. Ives, Cornwall following Donovan’s path! I just wanna play the guitar and travel and spread the good vibes!
Seen this on the tele in 1960; went down there in the early 70's walked the north cornwall coastal footpathpath down to Penzance, the beaches above Newquay are epic
This is amazing. I am a Bay Area hippie in my 20s....it's nice to know that, as early as 1960 in England, there were beatniks / hippies. Thanks for posting!!!
In 1972 I arrived in Glastonbury, Somerset and discovered that most of the cafes and pubs had notices in the windows saying "NO HIPPIES". I started a campaign for hippies (so called) to wear badges claiming that they were beatniks, not hippies. In my ignorance thought this would help the situation. People laughed and put the badges on, joining in with the joke. I was given the nickname "Wiz" but, being only 19 years old at the time, I didn't know why. This old video has the answer.
brilliant - seeing them walk down the high street its like seeing time travellers from the future wandering around
Highly interesting documentary. Those long-haired beatniks were way ahead of their time.
I was there in 1960 and in 1961. I knew all the participants except Allen Whicker and the Publican. And still know Wizz and Sue. Unfortunately I have lost touch with Paddy. I remember Allen Whicker coming to Newquay but could not observe nor participate because I was working in the kitchen of the Great Western Hotel. And I worked there the summer of '61. I suggest that all these records have been wrongly dated in the changeover from analogue to digital!
Sue is my cousin
I saw Wizz and John on Saturday night. We stayed at a local hotel and it turned out that they were staying there as well. John joined us for breakfast and we had a great chat. A really nice guy. Wizz came down just before we left. They were excellent on Saturday night.
That’s very cool. I’ll never get to see either I’m afraid.
ahead of his time!
@jonno52
And Wizz's hair was very, very long for 1960.
You make a good point about the Guthrie inflections in his sound.
Considering the crime, the loutishness, the incivility that plagues British cities today, it's incredible that beatniks got people twisted into such knots back then.
Let us know if you run in Wizz.
Absolutey fantastic! It's hard-to-find videos like this that UA-cam was made for; thanks for uploading, lupine22! :)
Just attended a very enjoyable workshop with Wizz in Wadebridge, Cornwall, as part of their folk festival. He's a very engaging, self-deprecating guy who doesn't seem to realise what a great guitarist he is.
Clive Carroll and John Renbourn were also in attendance, so good value at £5!
You couldn't make it up. The dapper cut-glass presenter followed by hippy Wizz before hippies were thought of, doing a song which pre-figured Bob Dylan's "Hard Times In New York " (on the "Folksingers' Choice" radio program Jan 1962, available on YT) by 2 years. There's truly something of Woody Guthrie in this guy's sound.
Heard this evening that Wizz drops in my local in S London, is in good shape & performing regularly round here.
No, this really was shot in 1960, and broadcast in the BBC's Tonight programme on 29 August 1960. It's listed in the British Film Institute's database. Google for "Alan Whicker interviews the so-called Beatniks of Newquay."
Thanks, Susan. Your Dad IS famous now -- he's on UA-cam !! :-)
Very interesting video. Wizz Jones is outstanding!
Oh, I love dear old Wizz! My then fiancé and I saw him in London around Christmas 1998 on the night before our engagement party! :o)
The birth of Beat in Britain?
I'm kicking myself 'cos my guitar
teacher told me to check out a
small local club which he thought
would appeal to me.
He told me only last week.
I saw a poster in a music shop
today advertising Wizz Jones
playing there LAST Saturday
night.
If I'd have checked it out when
my teacher told me I'd have almost
certainly made the Wizz gig!
Brillliant. bit of archive.Thanx for uploading
The presenters are I think Cliff Mitchelmore and Alan Whicker I think this is a bit later than 1960 the hair looks 1964/65 as does the striped top . Great clip
Thanks for sharing that with us, Susan. It's good to know!
It definitely was shot in 1960. Those beatniks were ahead of the rest with hairstyles at that time.
check out The Screaming Lord Sutch, British horror-rockabilly performer, he had long hair in 1960 too
Talk about a guy ahead of his time! Wow! Clearly some kind of time traveler.
Love this, Thanks for posting.
cool stuff :)
beautiful long live WIZZ
Very interesting! Thanks for posting!
Wizz Jones doing some great guitar picking on two songs, listen to the second one, (Magic) back in 1961 all against beatniks (The hippies of the time)
By 1960, a small 'beatnik' community in Newquay, Cornwall, England (including a young Wizz Jones) had attracted the attention and the abhorrence of their neighbours, for growing their hair to a length that was then quite abnormally long (past the shoulders), for which they were interviewed by the BBC's Alan Whicker for national television.The beatnik started the hippies movement it was a natural progression.He was one orignals,well it started in the 1920s germany with these back 2 nature move
I went to Penzance in the mid 60s, and couldn’t buy anything in the shops pubs or restaurants. I haven’t been back to Cornwall since then. If anyone was smelly,it certainly wasn’t me or my friends. I ended up camping on the beach in Lyme Regis which was a bit better.
1:33 Hard times in Newkie for sure .....and now for something completely different
Susan Hunt. Hello, you are Arnold's daughter? How nice to connect. I knew him in Newquay and of course in Barnes.
Please give him my best.
Res JF Burman
I'm afraid you are mistaken Sataniklusr0t1kus.
And so is the title.
This was shot in 1961.
I met Wizz in 1960, in Newquay and we were both certainly there but this was filmed in 1961, because I was working in the Great Western Hotel's kitchen while it was filmed.
In 1960 I had a 'Licence to Boatman' signed by none other than Mr Trembath, the Clerk to the Council, which I still have (expired)!
Tell you what, this was shot in 1964 or 1965. The guy at 7:10 is Jackson C Frank who moved to the UK in '64 and released his first and only record the following year, so that pretty much pins the date down.
Shot in 1960 and it's not Frank.
I'd no idea that any British young men of this era had such long hair -- two or three years before the Beatles caused such a fuss with their relatively hirsute appearance! If I hadn't known it was 1960, and if they hadn't been referred to as beatniks, I'd have assumed they were hippies from about 1968, although the lack of bellbottoms might have been a bit of a giveaway.
still going strong!
Yes, he is the same Wizz Jones.
what a hoot, Mon
The guy at 7:10 is an Englishman, definitely not Jackson C. Frank (There's a video clip of Jackson on YT - check the difference!) The date of this video is known for sure - it IS 1960!
That's correct - it's all in the notes. Just click on "more info".
I'm actually wondering if this is dated correctly. Especially Whizz Jones. That particular cut didn't come until 1968 or 1969. It's very like early King Crimson!
According to wizzjonesdotcom it's 1960 (you can see photos on the site of Wizz with long hair in the early 1960s). BBC's "Tonight" ran from 1957 to 1965, so it's definitely not the late Sixties. And some of the clothes and hairstyles of the female beatniks would have been rather out of place at Woodstock. Also, the cars on view tend to suggest the very early part of the decade (No Ford Cortinas, Vauxhall Vivas etc).
according to Eric Clapton,,Wiz was one of his 1st big influences (via E.C's auto-bio)
No, not Jackson C Frank, that's my dad and he and Wiz are still very close friends today.
I like Wizz Jones, God bless him. I like (and have long hair). But, to be honest, that fringe he's had for 70 years is ridiculous. When he was circa 65 he looked like my mother.
Yea........ Keith Richards has me onto this!! :)
the first song is either based on or what hard times in new york (by bob dylan) is based on.
Yes -- read my notes for details on both songs featured.
No, this is before Bob. It's based on a much older song; "Down on Peggy's Farm".
Things aint changed Wiz .
That's right. Those people must've freaked!
7:09 dad!?.....
On the other hand the black and white footage itself looks very 1960. Also the young people wouldn't stand to be called beatniks by 1969. I think Whizz was just one of those guys who is sartorially way ahead of his time.
Broadcast 29th August 1960.
Wonder what ERIC is doing now
All right, I'm probably hallucinating :)
Maybe it's just me, but the left side of the guy's face looks quite burnt, just like Jackson's. It's difficult to tell with so few photographs/footage available of him... weird!
hey could you give me the name of this docummentary
Yep, that's Arnold!
haha this video is hilarious
long hair?? whats the trouble with that? Alfred The Great and Arthur both had long hair! long hair is British tradition!
That wasn't Patty it was Paddy, short for Patricia!
1960? Hair like that? These guys were like living at least 5 years ahead of their time.
Maybe they can "envision" what we can do to keep our planet from getting wrecked,like some kind of new music or catalyzing societal force?!
Screaming Lord Sutch had very long hair about then. He looked brilliant. The look inspired me. Only in 1967 did I get the chance!
They are not burns, my dad says he had acne, he doesn't have it now, fortunately!
Wow, Patty at 6:25 reminds me of Amy Winehouse! Then the other guy at 7:13 reminds me of someone but I just can't put my finger on it... Maybe it's their parents or something!
Is this really 1960? something don't sit right.
in England
No, it was definitely 1960.
Makes you realise where Monthy Python were coming from.
Ther was always people on earth who worn their hair long in every decade & year. this is not anything new. Long hair was worn in lincoln"s time, Einstein & Indians also had long hair.Check out the Castro Cuban revelution docu. on You tube narrated by Errol Flynn who died in 1959 not 1969. Long hair was not a 1960's or Beatles invention.
@posthumanhero
"invasion by these types" spaketh the enforcer of conformity and class oppression...
@ddasdfdwed
I didn't know any guys had long hair in 1960!
yah, some beatniks had on the early 60s
@posthumanhero