I own the same black MK8, and after ruing 2 sets of brakepads in 4 trackdays the first thing that I changed was upgrading to a big brake kit. Rollbars and extra HP are nice, but not if your car cant handle them for more than 10min. Would recommend to all, the biggest weakness of the car, just like they said. Now the car is a beast and can keep going all day!
I put 4 ferodo DS500, racing liquid for brakes and metal hoses. I use to drive fiesta by mountains roads every week and i dont need more. But if some day i drive to much and very hard, the brakes still get hot. But u have to be an animal for get tired your brakes. In a circuit i think is indispensable to improve brakes in any car. By the way in more pretty is blue performance .P.
Brake cooling can sometimes be required (especially with high performance pads). Braking is converting friction into heat. The better the friction, more the heat. Thus, can happen that better pads perform worse because of small brake discs that heat up quickly, especially with weak or no cooling. Heat can not dissipate quick enough, causing resins in pads to evaporate intensively and eventually brake fluid to boil (especially if any moisture it fluid) .
as a 5x100 Subaru driver I can attest that this is a fact. I bought a sheet of 6AL4V titanium and made some brake pad shims that helped tremendously with the fluid boiling.....also using the SRF fluid helped as well.
The Fiesta st is a very fun car and on the track and in good hands we have already seen what it is capable of. A very exciting return. Thanks for bringing it to the channel 👍
Ford know how to build a great handling car especially fwd, one of the best fwd cars ove driven was a mk1 focus RS . Absolutely outstanding car just so raw and thw turn in was amazing. On a back road with the right driver ...honestly it's one of the best cars
I think I like the rear camera more than with the paddles. You’ve proven your footwork is great and consistent! And I enjoy watching the rear view when you overtake and to keep an eye on for upcoming traffic😊
I had one of these Fiesta ST MK8 and the car was a lot of fun. The only thing that was quite upsetting were the stock brakes. They overheated all the time. Anyways... Great Video and amazing Driving !
I put on a 6 calliper big brake from tarox in front, tarox discs in the rear and tarox strada pads. Works great. Now it can break hard from over 240 kph on the motorway. The Fister is damn quick on B roads and track. Nice Video! All the best Felix
@Misha Charoudin again on Fiesta ST mk8! Love ittt! Bro I own one of these myself and they have flat foot shifting from factory! Would be good to see you using it :D
Misha not taking the jump to make sure the front end is settled and he can dive on the Yaris might be the most impressive millisecond decision I have seen. Beautiful!
Steel brake lines, castrol brake oil, stock discs, and the ferodo DS2500 pads, stock power, and michelin cup2 tires 215/40/18. With two in the car, no fading here after one hot lap, 15 min cooling break time. The brake oil and steel brake lines give's every car so much better brake pedal feel en more trust.
my car in the vid, i have braided lines too with ate 200 fluid maybewe forgot to mention in the vid, ds2500 with textar disc bite quite hard, im working on some brake cooling right now
Oh damn! The carpet map thing @ 1:08 is similar to something I had and love from my childhood like 20 years ago now. Holy shit, the influx of memories when I saw it..
I also own one, but mine’s the 125hp mild hybrid. Yes, drum brake at the rear, but somehow it’s still a fun car to drive. It’s the perfect daily to me. (Let’s keep in mind the price, of course I’d buy an ST if I could). Oh, and I forgot to say that I put some Pilot Sport 5 on it. You can push it as hard as you can, there’s always enough grip for the 1.0 Ecoboost. 4 years with the Fiesta at the moment and more than 90000km without any problems.
I have the previous gen FiST (182) and about the brakes "issues" the key with this architecture is to deactivate all the safety modules (which I did minus the abs). The car is another animal, it has even better rotation, no timing cut when spinning, and better than everything: no overheating brakes. I can do 30-40 minutes session, I will loose intercooler cooling way before brakes. Setup : PBS pads / Brembo plain discs / braided lines / RB600F.
@@bluepug2062 I don't know if it's just plug and play, I only have the 1.0 ecoboost stline😂 but a friend has a mini transit connect like that and I know it's 300 millimeters, I only use ATE
A friend had a Fiesta and said something about this and I was unclear how it would have been but apparently the whole system is a brake eating, non trackable option
I do like the rear lights I have to say. Prefer the mk7 but this one looks really nice. Confidence inspiring cars for sure, would put bigger brake kit on with some cooling ducts myself!
Mk8 st is incredible car out the box. Biggest issue is the brakes since they are the same size from a 125hp st line. It’s no wonder they burn out in half a lap.
Why do people think brakes have to do with hp? All about brakes is speed + mass, called kinetic energy. Horsepower is not a factor for braking. Since the 125hp has the same weight, it is equal. It just does not reach that top speed.
@@dom3827 no but more horsepower means a higher top speed witch means additional braking power is required to bring the car down. If going by your logic then why do hyper cars have carbon ceramics the size of the average car wheel if HP doesn’t matter.
@@RosskoPeeko thats literarly what i said. Top speed matters and mass. Hp not. You can have 300 hp on 1 ton vehicle or 300 hp on a 40 ton vehicle. Different top speed. Different energy.
I'd like to know the answer also, as about to visit the Ring July. I was thinking EBC Bluestuff, but I won't be driving or braking anywhere near as hard as Misha! 😂
ı thınk ıt would be really cool to see ınıtalD style racing in nurburgring ı have a lot of fun while watchıng you driving with yaris (ıts probably against the track rules but you know)
Germans for you😂(haven’t watched it yet but I’m guessing) I used to work for a German rental company and amount of times they’d come back hammered beers falling out the car was insane!
Every car that's going on the track needs upgraded fluid, braided lines and pads. If you can't get the original to fade, you're not driving fast enough.
@@Diac13very true, brakes before power! Unfortunately hardly anyone does that😢but also they will hardly ever reach the limits of their cars so it’s one of them.
@StefanP742 from 230 to 250 is quite a difference though so if it's 230 or 240 let's say it's still a difference plus the 4wd of the yaris plus how way more expensive is so my comment stays the same the ford would way better than this mediocre thing for this money and his specs
@@ecobeast1.0 guessing the guy hasn't had it dyno'd, I see the figures for stage 1 on the mk8 st range between 230ish to 250... so yeah somewhere inbetween... tbh they are very capable cars, when I had mine I put KW v3 coilovers on it, a front strut brace and rear torsion bar and it handled so well! So controlled and could go into corners so fast with a bit of rotation but was always so easy to correct
Sounds amazing, especially sound coming from behind. I had problems with the drivers position, but the force feedback & raw power in that lightweight thing is amazing. On the road this car is more than you need!
Seems the driver in the fiesta could of taken the Yaris if it just a little more power, or if the yarris moved over i think the fiesta would pulled away by better driving .
Misha, ober the years I've been watching the channel you (almost always)seem to be just getting a lap in before the track closes. Why is this? Btw, another great vid Thanks!
What are you talking about? That dude in the Yaris was driving equally as good as Mischa, but Mischa seemed like he was crying about that dude not moving over for him to pass. The track isn’t only for “Mischa” lol
When you encounter such person as in the Yaris I think you should drop back for 30 seconds and then flat out again it doesn’t seem worth it to go into the back of them because they don’t know the braking points properly I know you shouldn’t have to do that and they should move over but some just don’t and it’s not worth being in harms way because some lemon thinks his skill level is much higher than it actually is!
I had a 2019 MK8 Fiesta ST and it was a wonderful little car. I was so happy seeing this video pop up on my feed. An awesome lap as always!
Me too!!
What car you decided to buy after the Fiesta?
@@Goexpress-js4bu 2018 Seat Leon Cupra 290
I own the same black MK8, and after ruing 2 sets of brakepads in 4 trackdays the first thing that I changed was upgrading to a big brake kit. Rollbars and extra HP are nice, but not if your car cant handle them for more than 10min. Would recommend to all, the biggest weakness of the car, just like they said. Now the car is a beast and can keep going all day!
wich big brakes kit did you put on it ?
I put 4 ferodo DS500, racing liquid for brakes and metal hoses. I use to drive fiesta by mountains roads every week and i dont need more. But if some day i drive to much and very hard, the brakes still get hot. But u have to be an animal for get tired your brakes. In a circuit i think is indispensable to improve brakes in any car. By the way in more pretty is blue performance .P.
The brakes are garbage on the st. Literally the same size of disc found in the st line 125
@@Kamui.. REVO Technik | Ford Fiesta MK8 ST | Big brake kit
@@RosskoPeeko i back this claim. my pads needed resting after about 3 laps every session at willow springs during 107F weather (MK7FiST)
As a Fiesta ST owner, I always LOVE when you post a video driving one. :)
Very interesting seeing a capable driver in an inferior car keeping up with a less capable driver in a more capable car!
Driver mod!😅
Wouldn’t call it inferior if it’s faster around a track then a golf GTI
@@ogloftus I think they just mean relative to the yaris. Thats how i interpreted it anyways. Love me a fiST though!
@@BasicPremium that’s fair I guess
Ford fiesta st is a track weapon and very similar performing with the GR Yaris on track
Brake cooling can sometimes be required (especially with high performance pads). Braking is converting friction into heat. The better the friction, more the heat. Thus, can happen that better pads perform worse because of small brake discs that heat up quickly, especially with weak or no cooling. Heat can not dissipate quick enough, causing resins in pads to evaporate intensively and eventually brake fluid to boil (especially if any moisture it fluid) .
as a 5x100 Subaru driver I can attest that this is a fact. I bought a sheet of 6AL4V titanium and made some brake pad shims that helped tremendously with the fluid boiling.....also using the SRF fluid helped as well.
Was looking forward to seeing a mk8 fiesta st on the channel 😁 awesome to see what this car is capable off!
Mine was on it last year 🙈
3 cylinder monsters!!!
The Fiesta st is a very fun car and on the track and in good hands we have already seen what it is capable of. A very exciting return. Thanks for bringing it to the channel 👍
Ford know how to build a great handling car especially fwd, one of the best fwd cars ove driven was a mk1 focus RS . Absolutely outstanding car just so raw and thw turn in was amazing. On a back road with the right driver ...honestly it's one of the best cars
I think I like the rear camera more than with the paddles. You’ve proven your footwork is great and consistent! And I enjoy watching the rear view when you overtake and to keep an eye on for upcoming traffic😊
I had one of these Fiesta ST MK8 and the car was a lot of fun. The only thing that was quite upsetting were the stock brakes. They overheated all the time.
Anyways... Great Video and amazing Driving !
I put on a 6 calliper big brake from tarox in front, tarox discs in the rear and tarox strada pads. Works great. Now it can break hard from over 240 kph on the motorway.
The Fister is damn quick on B roads and track.
Nice Video!
All the best
Felix
Fiesta ST MK8 vs Toyota GR Yaris vs BMW E36 awesome run Misha
Yeah, the BMW held on well, too!
For a 3 cylinder this thing performs amazing 👌
But how long does it last till it needs a rebuild? 😕
Got 100k Kilometer on mine. Drove 30k with Stage 1 and now with Stage 1 with around 260hp with 360nm without Any Problems.
@@sonicstep With proper regular servicing, they're actually proving very reliable and long-lasting!
And it sounds like a little Ferrari no like the gr yaris sounds..uggg
does it have a timing belt bathing in oil too?
I must say white compact also did good, keeping up with both of you. 30 years old car.... with mods of course =)
Exactly, he was catching up to them in corners, looks like the driver was really good
@Misha Charoudin again on Fiesta ST mk8! Love ittt! Bro I own one of these myself and they have flat foot shifting from factory! Would be good to see you using it :D
One of my current cars (MK8 ST) v one that i really, really want. Saying that, i do bloody adore my little Fiesta. Superb thing.
Misha not taking the jump to make sure the front end is settled and he can dive on the Yaris might be the most impressive millisecond decision I have seen. Beautiful!
Steel brake lines, castrol brake oil, stock discs, and the ferodo DS2500 pads, stock power, and michelin cup2 tires 215/40/18. With two in the car, no fading here after one hot lap, 15 min cooling break time. The brake oil and steel brake lines give's every car so much better brake pedal feel en more trust.
my car in the vid, i have braided lines too with ate 200 fluid maybewe forgot to mention in the vid, ds2500 with textar disc bite quite hard, im working on some brake cooling right now
@@Marshayk1 cool. Also im amazed how these modern hatchbacks handle with those light 3cylinder engines
That white bmw keeping up the whole lap tho
Oh damn! The carpet map thing @ 1:08 is similar to something I had and love from my childhood like 20 years ago now. Holy shit, the influx of memories when I saw it..
I also own one, but mine’s the 125hp mild hybrid. Yes, drum brake at the rear, but somehow it’s still a fun car to drive. It’s the perfect daily to me. (Let’s keep in mind the price, of course I’d buy an ST if I could).
Oh, and I forgot to say that I put some Pilot Sport 5 on it. You can push it as hard as you can, there’s always enough grip for the 1.0 Ecoboost. 4 years with the Fiesta at the moment and more than 90000km without any problems.
Holy crap, the turn-in of that Fiesta is wild!
I have the previous gen FiST (182) and about the brakes "issues" the key with this architecture is to deactivate all the safety modules (which I did minus the abs).
The car is another animal, it has even better rotation, no timing cut when spinning, and better than everything: no overheating brakes.
I can do 30-40 minutes session, I will loose intercooler cooling way before brakes.
Setup : PBS pads / Brembo plain discs / braided lines / RB600F.
Thats it. If people would know how often the Fiesta brakes without you touching the pedal. It brakes very often.
What do you call safety modules ?
@@khaleesix9364 esp, torque vectoring, anti-roll, and 2 more I forgot.
@@dom3827 VAG are even worse but at least have brakes that can handle it better.
@@Spark972 its just as bad on track usage.
1 round Nürburgring witz serious driving and Polo AND Fiestas brakes are gone
Cheap solution for braking is to use transit connect calipers and discs 300 mm

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interesting, thx. I wonder if these discs and calipers will still fit in my 16" wheels (winter tires) I think probably not
@@Kamui.. I think it fits
Does is work plug and Play? Wich 300mm discs do you choose?
@@bluepug2062 I don't know if it's just plug and play, I only have the 1.0 ecoboost stline😂 but a friend has a mini transit connect like that and I know it's 300 millimeters, I only use ATE
@@Kamui.. There are both 4 holes 4x108 so from the outset it fits on 16 rims
Such a wonderful car!
Traction control / e diff is killing the brakes.
A friend had a Fiesta and said something about this and I was unclear how it would have been but apparently the whole system is a brake eating, non trackable option
In the track mode the E diff is disabled and it relies only in the mechanical LSD.
Exactly. I already answered this issue but you need to deactivate a few modules in the car.
The rear camera is good 👍
The ST is nice. But the GR is absolutely brilliant. In my opinion, it already acquired Rally Royalty status from its performance in WRC.
But the guy should have move out of way...he was holding him up on the corners too much!
tried each of them on track, the GR sure is a bit better, but way more expensive
But it looks meh
I do like the rear lights I have to say. Prefer the mk7 but this one looks really nice. Confidence inspiring cars for sure, would put bigger brake kit on with some cooling ducts myself!
mk7 exterior with mk8 interior and engine is the best
@@RicardoPestana that’s a good point the mk8 interiors are really nice and driver focused
That's a nice looking car actually.
Great lap.
Bravo misha. Fiesta st ou i20n ?
Mk8 st is incredible car out the box. Biggest issue is the brakes since they are the same size from a 125hp st line. It’s no wonder they burn out in half a lap.
Why do people think brakes have to do with hp?
All about brakes is speed + mass, called kinetic energy. Horsepower is not a factor for braking.
Since the 125hp has the same weight, it is equal.
It just does not reach that top speed.
@@dom3827 no but more horsepower means a higher top speed witch means additional braking power is required to bring the car down. If going by your logic then why do hyper cars have carbon ceramics the size of the average car wheel if HP doesn’t matter.
@@RosskoPeeko thats literarly what i said. Top speed matters and mass.
Hp not. You can have 300 hp on 1 ton vehicle or 300 hp on a 40 ton vehicle. Different top speed. Different energy.
@@dom3827Top speed and HP are proportional.
@@kbleik so?
Why does a Leopard 2 Tank with 1.500 hp just reach 70 Kilometers per hour?
Can run 5 cameras and edit in out between rear and foot well depending on the action going on. Can be dynamic this way
The TRS Performance Stage 1 performed nicely 😁👌
3 cylinders VS 3 cylinders
Fiesta, seeing GR on the track :
- 🧐😲 Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary! 😈
🚗🚙💨
The best videos are when you know Misha really wants to catch the guy in front and you get a somewhat proper race out of it.
So sad the Fiesta's not in the states anymore...
But more sad is that Fiesta's not build anymore at all. I'll keep my mk8 ST for some time, always enjoy to get to road with it!
@@2Yakuza5 I have a blue 2018 MK8 ST (33k kms on it lol), I think i'll keep it for life
not me now considering a fiesta ST. sadly I must keep my wagon for practical purposes
3 cilinder race klasse!
Very cool misha!
Another video showing us things we are loosing V8 BMWs then hot hatches ! ❤ thank you brother be safe
Thanks for this video❤
This small rocket is quite fast!!!
Behind BMW also joined together
What would be good DS2500 alternatives for this type of car ?
I'd like to know the answer also, as about to visit the Ring July. I was thinking EBC Bluestuff, but I won't be driving or braking anywhere near as hard as Misha! 😂
I fee like Yaris guy should have noticed the Fiesa pushing and let him pass to see if he can keep up with Mishas Line 😂
My son still has that mat in his room, nostalgia or what lol
The title should actually be "Fiesta ST MK8 & Toyta GR Yaris & BMWCompact" FULL LAP TOGETHER 🙂
Waiting for your lap on the CLIO V6!
Was that a mk7gtd at the back in the beginning of the video??
Typo in the title. Love the content!
Che pastiglie freni ti piacciono? Ds2500 dovrebbero essere buone
Vous préférez une megane 3 rs cup stock ou une ford fiesta st mk8 stock ?
Dear Misha, can you compare the Fiesta w/ İ20N?? thanx
Since 8:00 to 9:50 in same gear, amazing 😂
Nice car!
Toytoy stood his ground. 😂
ı thınk ıt would be really cool to see ınıtalD style racing in nurburgring ı have a lot of fun while watchıng you driving with yaris (ıts probably against the track rules but you know)
i think every car guy or girl had that mat on their bedroom floor when they were i child i remember having one racing matchbox cars on them
the crap hanging on the rear view mirror would drive me nuts
Is the cabin well insulated? seems like you can talk normally @ 200km/h :D I'm looking for a well quiet hothatch
holy shit this guy can drive!!
sandwiched between a yaris and an e36
nice lap, what is the meaning of the "ST" going on sometimes ? traction control going on ?
The ST light is part of the performance pack for flat foot shifting. When it comes on is when you can do it
I love your shirt :D
Where did you get it?
What does a little ST light mean? I've seen it come on during the fastest part.
max rev I guess
its meant as a sort of shift indicator, if it starts blinking it also means flat shift is avaiable so you can upshift without lifing the gas
What rype of watch have misha ??
haha very nice misha!
nice cam setup
I remember that mat.
Great car. Proper hot hatch.
St😍✈️
I would throw a red shield to get him off the way.😝
GR Yaris is one of those cars that you think to yourself that's a cool car but would never own one. There are much better options for the price.
What options?
More cameras needed 😆
Todos queremos una vuelta en el ford focus st
😊yay rear cam 😊
I think the red car was drunk😵💫
Germans for you😂(haven’t watched it yet but I’m guessing) I used to work for a German rental company and amount of times they’d come back hammered beers falling out the car was insane!
@@KeyBrosUK ,
Nope French license plates GJ-729-NN (not mine 😋)
CLIO V6?😮
Yeah, the brakes really are the Achilles heel of these cars unfortunately.
Nothing money can't fix.
@@omedonnietrue, there's some good options out there by now. I haven't tracked mine in a while though, so not really missing it.
All you need is braided lines, better brake fluid and some proper track pads. It doesn't cost much in these cars, very moddable on a budget
Every car that's going on the track needs upgraded fluid, braided lines and pads. If you can't get the original to fade, you're not driving fast enough.
@@Diac13very true, brakes before power! Unfortunately hardly anyone does that😢but also they will hardly ever reach the limits of their cars so it’s one of them.
Imagine if the fiesta had 260ps instead of only 200ps omg what a beast only Ford!!!!!
He said it was making between 230-250bhp
@StefanP742 from 230 to 250 is quite a difference though so if it's 230 or 240 let's say it's still a difference plus the 4wd of the yaris plus how way more expensive is so my comment stays the same the ford would way better than this mediocre thing for this money and his specs
@@ecobeast1.0 guessing the guy hasn't had it dyno'd, I see the figures for stage 1 on the mk8 st range between 230ish to 250... so yeah somewhere inbetween... tbh they are very capable cars, when I had mine I put KW v3 coilovers on it, a front strut brace and rear torsion bar and it handled so well! So controlled and could go into corners so fast with a bit of rotation but was always so easy to correct
@@StefanP742 I have a mk8.5 I'm supposed to have 240 hp and mine is an original gr. so I think the car in the video has 230
Would be awesome to see you drive a clio v6, Been my dream car ever since i played Need for speed Most wanted.
Sounds amazing, especially sound coming from behind. I had problems with the drivers position, but the force feedback & raw power in that lightweight thing is amazing. On the road this car is more than you need!
Good video
Good comment
Misha how do I get my car on your channel
Are there any gyms near the ring ffs?
4:58 miot o___o
Is that a v6 wow that's rare ...proceeds to fly past it at 120mph 😂
that bit of the video happened right after I read your comment lol, what a coincidence! 6:54
@@RWL2012 😆
Spelling mistake in the title. Toyota not Toyta. Great video as usual!
I see they are still putting terrible brakes on the fiesta, it's pretty much the only thing that lets these things down
Seems the driver in the fiesta could of taken the Yaris if it just a little more power, or if the yarris moved over i think the fiesta would pulled away by better driving .
Misha, ober the years I've been watching the channel you (almost always)seem to be just getting a lap in before the track closes. Why is this? Btw, another great vid Thanks!
Everyone forgot white bmw behinde :((
Prefer rear than pedal 👍
that yaris driver.... I dont like such People on the Ring... Just move over and learn behind.... But dont stay in Front and get forced into mistakes.
French people, what else!
He (probably) thinks is the best driver on the world 😂
What are you talking about? That dude in the Yaris was driving equally as good as Mischa, but Mischa seemed like he was crying about that dude not moving over for him to pass. The track isn’t only for “Mischa” lol
When you encounter such person as in the Yaris I think you should drop back for 30 seconds and then flat out again it doesn’t seem worth it to go into the back of them because they don’t know the braking points properly I know you shouldn’t have to do that and they should move over but some just don’t and it’s not worth being in harms way because some lemon thinks his skill level is much higher than it actually is!
Yeah!!! MÄRKISCHER KREIS JUNGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woher kommste?
Der hat so aber kein TÜV mit den Maxton Teilen :P
Kijk daar is, een Yaris. Hij wou je er niet langs laten Misha. Great lap!
Looks lowered,but no mention.
It actually is but with the Ford Performance Option
@@danielfaehrtauto on a st? What does it include?