Comte Lafons Vire Clesse was my introduction to French white wines. Though I hardly remember what it tastes like, it holds a special place in my heart for opening my eyes to white wines which I scarcely drink.
Thijs: I never knew that about Chardonnay. When I go to France, that is what I will be looking out for. Most high end White Burgundy need a lot of ageing to show its special qualities so I am happy to drink Macon when I can. Cheers!
Henri: as I said to Spiritchaser, I think if you are drinking White Burgundy and you don't want to wait 20 years you are better off drinking Macon vs some of the higher end White Burgundy. Honestly, they need 20+ years to develop. I will do a review of 2006 Corto Charlemagne shortly but it is still not ready and just starting to develop some butteriness. Cheers!
@@TrophyWineHunter I today bought an inexpensive Joseph Drouhin Mâcon-Lugny Les Crays 2021 for only 25 euros which I’ll try soon. From what I’ve observed in the Macon, the 2021 vintage outperforms the 2022 vintage when I’ve tried the same wines from both vintages.
@@Pseudopimelodidae let me know how it tastes..I haven't had many 2021/2022 yet. I did have the Faiveley 2021 Echezeaux which seemed pretty good (though young) so I would agree with your assessment based on my limited experience with the vintages. Cheers!
@@TrophyWineHunter The wine was good for the price. Amazing nose but a pallet was ”just” good. The finish was short. The wine became better and you could taste the fruit when it warmed up. A good value wine for people who enjoy old world Chardonnay
Count me as one of those who dont "get" Burgundy (both PN and C). I'm not someone who likes cherries and strawberries so maybe thats why they dont appeal to me. That said, I adore Italian Barolo/Barbarescos for their high perfume character (roses and tar), while the savoury and herbaceous sangiovese wines of Tuscany have their appeals as well.
White chards fall into two categories, those fatty luxurious (read: oaky) ones which are easy to drink and the austere structured but often linear and uninviting ones (which are not very enjoyable to drink until god knows when). These days I rather be basic and drink the aromatic white varietals like dry (and cheaper) Rieslings.
Spiritchaser: I love Rieslings also but sometimes for food, you need a bit more weight and that is when White Burgundy comes into play. I think I am beginning to realize that you really need significant ageing on Trophy White Burgundies before they show the fullness/butteriness. If you are going to drink white Burgundy young, you are better off drinking Macon wines. Cheers!
Comte Lafons Vire Clesse was my introduction to French white wines. Though I hardly remember what it tastes like, it holds a special place in my heart for opening my eyes to white wines which I scarcely drink.
Spiritchaser: love that wine as example of moderately priced White Burgundy. Cheers!
Just drove past Macon. The region is really is the birthplace of Chardonnay. Their is a small village called Chardonnay which gave the grape its name.
Thijs: I never knew that about Chardonnay. When I go to France, that is what I will be looking out for. Most high end White Burgundy need a lot of ageing to show its special qualities so I am happy to drink Macon when I can. Cheers!
Very interesting information.
Good video. To me Burgundy reds have been a bit easier to get into than burgundy whites which often can be very subtle as you said.
Henri: as I said to Spiritchaser, I think if you are drinking White Burgundy and you don't want to wait 20 years you are better off drinking Macon vs some of the higher end White Burgundy. Honestly, they need 20+ years to develop. I will do a review of 2006 Corto Charlemagne shortly but it is still not ready and just starting to develop some butteriness. Cheers!
@@TrophyWineHunter I today bought an inexpensive Joseph Drouhin Mâcon-Lugny Les Crays 2021 for only 25 euros which I’ll try soon. From what I’ve observed in the Macon, the 2021 vintage outperforms the 2022 vintage when I’ve tried the same wines from both vintages.
@@Pseudopimelodidae let me know how it tastes..I haven't had many 2021/2022 yet. I did have the Faiveley 2021 Echezeaux which seemed pretty good (though young) so I would agree with your assessment based on my limited experience with the vintages. Cheers!
@@TrophyWineHunter The wine was good for the price. Amazing nose but a pallet was ”just” good. The finish was short. The wine became better and you could taste the fruit when it warmed up. A good value wine for people who enjoy old world Chardonnay
@@Pseudopimelodidae thanks for the knowledge. Cheers!
Count me as one of those who dont "get" Burgundy (both PN and C). I'm not someone who likes cherries and strawberries so maybe thats why they dont appeal to me. That said, I adore Italian Barolo/Barbarescos for their high perfume character (roses and tar), while the savoury and herbaceous sangiovese wines of Tuscany have their appeals as well.
Cheers!
White chards fall into two categories, those fatty luxurious (read: oaky) ones which are easy to drink and the austere structured but often linear and uninviting ones (which are not very enjoyable to drink until god knows when).
These days I rather be basic and drink the aromatic white varietals like dry (and cheaper) Rieslings.
Spiritchaser: I love Rieslings also but sometimes for food, you need a bit more weight and that is when White Burgundy comes into play. I think I am beginning to realize that you really need significant ageing on Trophy White Burgundies before they show the fullness/butteriness. If you are going to drink white Burgundy young, you are better off drinking Macon wines. Cheers!