Not a rock buggy question but if you wanted to convert a truck into a 6x6 with rear steering how would you tackle it. I was watching these guys on UA-cam who now have a show called Battlebox. They have a pretty nice looking Jeep in orange with rear steering and skipped on that system. I would like to know what it would take to convert a truck in that same fashion. I'll try to link it.
The best axles to do a 6x6 with will have both front and rear pinion outputs, just like the 2.5 ton Rockwells. Incidentally, these axles are also very easy to do rear steer with. I didn't see much in that video about the axles. But, the truck looks pretty low, so they must have done a good job on it. Now, as far as controlling the steering on all 3 axles, there are a few options. What I would do is control the front axle with regular hydraulics (pump, valve, ram) through the steering wheel. As for the 2 rear axles, I would use a separate hydraulic/electric power pack that moves two hydraulic rams simultaneously (one for each axle). It wouldn't be hard to do. That way, you can control the steering of both rear axles at the same time with an electric joystick. I hope this helps.
@@rgsabat Just curious to how much roughly that would cost in parts. I guess in axles and parts to make these axles work with what ever power plant chosen in what ever frame chosen. So I guess suspension and frame should be a separate cost. I more interested in the basic 6x6 build cost. I appreciate that you took time out for a reply. You seem to be very knowledgeable about this topic. So thank you.
How well does the electric pump handle the tank being on weird angles? Do you get any cavitation or leakage from a breather? Also, how do the tie rod cylinders hold up over time?
That is a very good question! if the electric pump tank is low on fluid, it cannot steer the buggy at steep angles (the pump will run and nothing happens). Also, air will be introduced in the system which will cause the rear steer to wonder on its own when driving straight. I had that happen to me at first, I then decided to build a secondary smaller fluid tank to prevent this issue, I mounted this secondary tank high up at shoulder height. This secondary tank holds only about 12 oz of fluid and it is half full and sealed. The fluid will expand inside it, and no vent is required, which is a good thing for roll-overs. I have never had any issues with it in the last 10 years (same power pack). The tie rod cylinders are holding up very well! They are also both over 12 years old, and I just changed the front one because it started leaking from the main shaft. But it only costs about 70$, so it is not a big deal.
Awesome work bud very informative for a newb like myself, just curious but how much $$ do you think it took to put that thing together? Ill be doing my own fab work for the most part but as far as decent components go..
Thank you. I am not sure if you mean how much for the rear steer or the whole buggy. The whole buggy costs me about $30K. But you could easily spent much more $ if you are buying top notch components. The rear steer is about $1000 not including the steer axle, Steer rockwells are cheap.
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Hello can you use this on a monster truck??for the front hydraulic steering??
Not a rock buggy question but if you wanted to convert a truck into a 6x6 with rear steering how would you tackle it. I was watching these guys on UA-cam who now have a show called Battlebox. They have a pretty nice looking Jeep in orange with rear steering and skipped on that system. I would like to know what it would take to convert a truck in that same fashion. I'll try to link it.
ua-cam.com/video/854xjT8va-g/v-deo.html
The best axles to do a 6x6 with will have both front and rear pinion outputs, just like the 2.5 ton Rockwells. Incidentally, these axles are also very easy to do rear steer with. I didn't see much in that video about the axles. But, the truck looks pretty low, so they must have done a good job on it. Now, as far as controlling the steering on all 3 axles, there are a few options. What I would do is control the front axle with regular hydraulics (pump, valve, ram) through the steering wheel. As for the 2 rear axles, I would use a separate hydraulic/electric power pack that moves two hydraulic rams simultaneously (one for each axle). It wouldn't be hard to do. That way, you can control the steering of both rear axles at the same time with an electric joystick. I hope this helps.
@@rgsabat
Just curious to how much roughly that would cost in parts. I guess in axles and parts to make these axles work with what ever power plant chosen in what ever frame chosen. So I guess suspension and frame should be a separate cost. I more interested in the basic 6x6 build cost.
I appreciate that you took time out for a reply. You seem to be very knowledgeable about this topic. So thank you.
How well does the electric pump handle the tank being on weird angles? Do you get any cavitation or leakage from a breather?
Also, how do the tie rod cylinders hold up over time?
That is a very good question! if the electric pump tank is low on fluid, it cannot steer the buggy at steep angles (the pump will run and nothing happens). Also, air will be introduced in the system which will cause the rear steer to wonder on its own when driving straight. I had that happen to me at first, I then decided to build a secondary smaller fluid tank to prevent this issue, I mounted this secondary tank high up at shoulder height. This secondary tank holds only about 12 oz of fluid and it is half full and sealed. The fluid will expand inside it, and no vent is required, which is a good thing for roll-overs. I have never had any issues with it in the last 10 years (same power pack). The tie rod cylinders are holding up very well! They are also both over 12 years old, and I just changed the front one because it started leaking from the main shaft. But it only costs about 70$, so it is not a big deal.
What electric over hydraulic unit brand do you recommend?
I have not seen one brand better than another. Mine is made by Haldex.
@@rgsabat thank you
Awesome work bud very informative for a newb like myself, just curious but how much $$ do you think it took to put that thing together? Ill be doing my own fab work for the most part but as far as decent components go..
Thank you. I am not sure if you mean how much for the rear steer or the whole buggy. The whole buggy costs me about $30K. But you could easily spent much more $ if you are buying top notch components. The rear steer is about $1000 not including the steer axle, Steer rockwells are cheap.
from what differentials?
My differentials? They are 2.5 ton rockwells.
How much overall cost your buggy?
It can cost from $5,000 to $100,000. It depends what components you put in it. You can have as much fun with the cheaper buggies.
@@rgsabat tanks you , im from Québec, Canada and we have so much fields here . Sorry for my english ... I like your video Theys helps me a lot !
have you been seeing guys running 10 lug hubs on the Rockwell axle. I cant seem to find who the parts venders are.
I think you mean 8 lug hubs? These are made by Ouverson engineering. www.ouversonusa.com/hubs.html