What Did Famous WW2 Generals Sound Like?
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What did Generals Patton, Montgomery, MacArthur and many other famous WW2 military leaders actually sound like? Find out here...
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I'd be inclined to surprise of anything more than a single person took the bait here Mark, I mean good luck with it all but what an unnecessary anchor...
I can see the Fake Mark Felton channel having you study human cloning so you can make copies of yourself to keep up with your video posting schedule.
Reading a smedley butler book he was a major general
@ 2:15, which WW2 Generals "actually fought"? How many high ranking WW2 Generals were ever in real combat? My guess would be very few, as they sent the young to fight and die.
I've been waiting a very very long time for someone other than myself to point out the odd similarities between Patton and trump and all this time I should have been none other than the great mark felton himself ( let's keep the comments civil)
Let's all take a moment to pay our respects to the memory of Woody Williams! Last living WW2 Medal of Honor winner has passed at 98. We West Virginians will always honor his memory
I just read about it. God bless him, and God bless West Virginia for giving us such a badass.
Is that the flamethrower guy?
@@kebertxela941 Yes.
@@silent1967 Thanks.
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I can't put into words how much Montgomery sounded _exactly_ like I expected he would.
honestly so did Nimitz.
Montgomery, EXACTLY like the actor playing him in Patton. The speech patterns, pronunciations and voice influxtions, 100% spot on!
yep- and he even said 'destwoy' and 'wommel' instead of 'destRoy' and 'Rommel'.
@@Mr.56Goldtop I actually had to look to see if Montgomery did voice-over work for Patton. The reason is because the actor sounds just like Montgomery.
"MONTY" SOUNDZ LIKE HE IZ DOING A MONTY PYTHON SKETCH...
The actor who plays Monty in the movie "Patton" (Michael Bates) really nailed his voice
Fun fact: Michael Bates appears in Episodes 12 and 13 of the 1974 mini-series “The Fall of Eagles”. Bates portrays General Erich Ludendorff - of course without Monty’s nasal voice.
It's quite interesting to listen to Eisenhower's farewell speech as president warning to beware of the 'Industrial Military Complex' that he foresaw coming to massive power in the western nations. As a lifelong military man he did not say those words lightly and had eerie foreshadowing of things that have come to pass.
He knew that it had already happened, and he warned America himself because he knew the US Media wouldn't. There were popular US TV shows about WW2 combat at that time(along with Westerns) and so he did what he thought was his duty and warned the US the day before JFK was inaugurated and gave his famous speech. Anyone interested should check out the Documentary, "Why We Fight." In it, we find that Eisenhower originally meant to say "the Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex."
@@DavidSmith-ss1cg why make a documentary on why we fight? It’s obvious, we fight for Israel
I’m sorry but any great power must have a strong military industrial complex… to abandon it would be self-immolation. Communist China is certainly not going to abandon theirs…
Even Trump spoke on it briefly. John F Kennedy was concerned about the deep state and the power of the CIA. Woodrow Wilson warned us about the power of companies and lobbyists.
It’s scary that he knew how strong the Military Industrial Complex was for HIM to deal with when he was a legendary general with complete confidence in his own abilities to run the nation and the military. He knew it would be almost impossible for non-military men (and while a few military vets have served as president after Eisenhower, none have been above low-ranking officers) to do anything about it.
Sadly, he was right. We’ve not had a president as good as Ike since Ike.
Rough translation of Charles de Gaulle's speech (11:39):
"Paris. An outraged Paris. A broken Paris. A martyred Paris. But.. a freed Paris. Freed by itself! Freed by its people, with help from the armies of France, with the support and aid of the whole of France; the France which fights, the only France, the true France, the eternal France!"
Thank you!
Merci beaucoup!
And - typical of de Gaulle - no mention of the assistance the allied forces.
My father came in with the first shipment of food into Paris shortly after the Germans surrendered. And a tip of the hat to the German general who disregarded Hitler's direct orders to reduce Paris to Rubble. Apparently de Gaul feltt the need to save face and apply healing yet deluded balm to the wounded French spirit.
@@erichall7068 De Gaulle appears to have been a petty, even contemptible person who's been propagandised into a "great man". His "Vive le Québec libre!" speech bears out that assessment.
@@schroedingersdog7965 This particular speech is a very famous one, but it's mostly about Paris, but he always mentioned the allies in other speeches. Charles de Gaulle would always speak highly of the allies, especially the services en (not so much of the commanders I believe), but here he is talking about the liberation of Paris which is (mostly) a French thing. He is also preparing the after war, he needed to create a feeling of unity for the reconstruction. Often, speeches are mostly pretty words. At that time, he said exactly the things the french needed to hear, even if it's not all true.
I often read english comments about De Gaulle on how he was a useless and arrogant leader, but I think these people just fail to see things with his point of view : he had France's interests in mind, just like the other leaders had theirs, and that's why he clashed with other allies leaders. But can you blame him ? Yes France has been vanquished, but from 1943 became again part of the fight, he wanted France to earn it's victory and it's rank back, that's why foreign presence on it's territory was out of the question after war, he didn't want to turn France into a giant american base or a vassal. All his politics afterward were to make a more independant and self reliant France in terms of defense. Some see this as using the allies and ditching them when not needed anymore, I just think he didn't want to normalize clientelism, he did not cut ties.
As for the arrogant thingy, De Gaulle certainly had a very strong personnality, even when he was young, but maybe it was what was needed to rebuild a morally and financially broken country as France.
Anyway that's my take on it, people should limite themselves to english speaking sources and try to find french speaking sources about him, they would get new points of view on the man (and no, it's all heroism and gliter, turns out french sources on history are mostly neutral, even critcal)
My uncle served under Patton and this video only backs up what he said Patton sounded like. He said the madder he got the high pitched his voice would go. Brilliant video Mark.
Hey he did look like Trump, in his mannerisms too!
My Great-Grandpa flew supply's for Patton after D-day, even flew Patton's personal jeep into Europe for him.
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and Donald Trump was born the day Patton died. lve heard it speculated that President Trump is Gen. Patton reincarnated..
I worked for a guy who served under Patton he said we would have followed him into hell they loved him
In times like this we need more men like Trump and Patton.
My grandfather was a master sergeant in the US Army fighting at Normandy and The Battle of the Bulge. My father said that when his parents bought their first television, my grandfather watched a speech on tv by Eisenhower as he was running for President. My grandfather said, “I never thought I would ever see that SOB again, and there he is!” My grandfather always used SOB as a term of endearment…he respected Eisenhower the general.
In regards to Patton, you failed to mention the dedication and loyalty that he elicited from his men. My father was an enlisted man in an artillery unit in the 3rd Army, and he and his colleagues loved him! I remember that as a child, my Dad and his best friend (who served in the same unit) made quite an event of going to see the movie Patton when it first came out. If my memory is correct, they went with many other veterans from their unit who lived in the area. He also told me how so many of the troops who served under Patton volunteered for the honor guard at his funeral, that they couldn't all be accommodated. Never the less, they willingly lined the route of his funeral from beginning to end. Patton is often remembered by how he was portrayed by George C. Scott in the 1970 movie "Patton", but this movie was made with extensive input from Patton's rival Omar Bradley, and obviously none from Patton. The resulting movie played up Patton's eccentricities and downplayed his successes, especially when compared to Carl Madden's portrayal of Bradley. In hindsight George C. Scott felt that the movie didn't do Patton justice, which prompted him to reprise the role in the TV movie "The Last Days of Patton" -- which has a far more nuanced performance. Note that no one has ever made a movie about Bradley and the battle of Hurtgen Forest.
Long story short -- my Dad never had a bad thing to say about Patton. Quantitatively Patton did advance further, with fewer casualties per mile than his rivals. If you look closely, you'll also see that most of Patton's critics did not serve under him. Many didn't even serve in the Army. I think that these points need to be mentioned in addition to how you described him.
Bradley was a mediocre general whose’s reputation as a soldier’s general was a press creation. It is hard to evaluate him, of course, since his particular role is had to separate from, that of Eisenhower’s
On a completely different note, although perhaps related, suggesting that he sounded a lot like Trump seems strange to me Patton had a strange accent to modern ears, I think some combination of the California and Viriginia of the time (plus wherever the Army had taken him). But there's a noticeable lack of NYC, or anything like it. It's entirely possible that the difference isn't obvious to a Britishman (much as I would probably have a tough time hearing the difference between Yorkshire and Kent, or more particularly, the Yorkshire and Kent of 1944), but it's definitely there. In any case, this was a great episode, and I'm glad Mark took the time to make it, just trying to add a bit of flavor.
@@matthewcoleman1919 Regional agents are not what they used to be because of mass media. Myself I grew up listening every night to the radio.But migration plays a big role. My Dad had a southTexas German accent that he had ironed out while working with Anglos in the oil fields. My mother and grandmother were from Mississippi. and the local people had similar accents but people from all over came to work in the East Texas field. When I first heard myself on a tape recorder when I was fifteen, I caught a slight drawl, but the priest whose recorder it was could not hear it.
@@matthewcoleman1919 He said,"...more than a passing resemblance to a younger and thinner Donald Trump." He didn't suggest that he sounded like him.
Patton was a loser
In 1975-9 both Monty and Mountbatten spoke at my prep School and we had a chance to meet them informally afterwards. Monty came across as kind but arrogant; Mountbatten came across as aloof but magnificent.
And it’s when that arrogance gets people killed that it becomes unforgivable
Did Mountbatten sound like Charles Dance?
It would seem Monty has that Aristocratic pomp in his voice, a man who seems to speak theatrically in all things.
Did Louie touch your bottoms ?
On TV Mountbatten was In-Charge..
Having only ever "heard" Patton through the voice of George C. Scott, it was a shock several years ago when I found out that the general's real voice is that of Buddy Hackett.
Read that as he said "you must remember this" and man your statement couldn't have been more accurate. Now just imagine Patton trying to pawn off stolen mink to Lucy and Mr. Mooney.
Yeah it's funny how influential that acting role is on my perception of the real Patton. In my head, George C. Scott is EXACTLY what Patton looked, sounded, and acted like, I have that clear image of him in a way I don't with any other WWII character.
Doesn't matter what he sounded like, he exhaled courage like no other.
Patton wished he sounded like George C Scott.
@@charlesstuart7290 you really think he'd care? He was a master of warfare, a father of 3, an Olympian, and even the first person to mount a machine gun on a motor vehicle. No, he wouldn't care about his voice sounding like an actor's.
I’ve noticed the frequent use of the adjective “divisive” in the description of many of these leaders. Hence, we have recognise the master stroke of selecting Eisenhower as ETO commander, to keep all these generals fighting together and not against each other.
Yes, and not only that. He also proved a unifying figure during his 2 terms as president. He run with republicans but could have run with either party. He delegated (something he was very good at) all the politics to his VP Nixon.
Divisive is a light word when talking about Charles de Gaule. His speach during this video is the best example. He speaks about the paris "broken" but paris "free" but continue on saying that the french liberated France, without mentionning most of the allies.
Your comment son Eisenhower is correct, he was quite agile at geeting everyone together
@@dr.jambonius7479 De Gaulle didn't say France, he said Paris. I guess you do not understand French.
Churchill faced the same sort of challenges in keeping his various allies united. After one particularly challenging effort in keeping DeGaulle on side, he remarked that "The only thing harder that fighting with (in the sense of "alongside") allies is fighting without them." (Or words to that effect.)
@@nedludd7622 Why this? I did'nt translate the whole speach or did it word by word, but first he says that Paris freed itself, with France help, then with the whole of france (No mention at all to every other country that landed in europe).
I think, in terms of oratory, Dwight D. Eisenhower is one of the most underrated speakers. From his days as General to President, he spoke with the conviction and clarity that I wish any leader would, and inspired confidence. Much has been made of his farewell address, but I ask you check out the "Why are we proud?" speech, too.
I agree completely. Dr. Felton saved the best for last.
Speeches by others like Monty or Patton come across to me as so much bluster, like they're trying to convince others (as well as themselves) of the validity of their convictions. However, when Ike spoke, it was delivered with the surety of a man who knew beyond any doubt that what he said was the unimpeachable truth.
Do you happen to have a link to the 'Why We are Proud' speech? Many thanks!
Look up Matthew B. Ridgway, not only was he a massive hero for the US in both World War II and Korea, but he was a remarkably clear speaker on many occasions.
When listening to the clip of Ike, I was wondering, "Who was his speech writer?" It was very good.
@@davidb2206 Well, under that logic, Eisenhower is even worse than Ridgway, since he went against his own Commander-in-chief (Truman), publicly criticized him, and ran in the opposite political party against his people...while he was still President. Truman was furious and never fully forgave Eisenhower for what he saw as an incredible betrayal. Traditionally speaking, I know of only one other major general that had EVER done this to his Commander-in-chief, and that was George McClellan with Abraham Lincoln. What Eisenhower did by most historical standards was nearly unthinkable.
I remember when the movie “Patton” came out that my uncle, who was on his staff, commented that his voice was high and thin and not at all like George C Scott’s.
I was shocked when I first heard Patton’s voice a few years ago. I always imagined him sounding like George C. Scott, during his portrayal of the General in the film ‘Patton’.
lol :)
Oh yeah, Patton would have KILLED to have had George C. Scott's voice!
In fact, the film-makers knew they could make no attempt to replicate Patton's voice with any actor, audiences just wouldn't accept it.
I'm sure he would have like to have sounded like Scott.
Expected George C. Scott, ended up with Mickey Rooney.
When Mark described him as having a high nasally voice, I pictured him having a voice like Gilbert Godfried. :-). But yes, not the voice I expected.
"The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war." -- Douglas MacArthur
I appreciate the sentiment but I think that title goes to the innocent civilians stuck in the crossfire.
"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.
" Hillary Clinton
In the movie Patton, the actor playing Montgomery clearly had studied Monty’s voice, and did a very good job replicating it for the film.
Yes, he was excellent in that role.
Monty had a voice for radio, I'll tell you that.
@@Randall1001 Definitely, crisp and sharp.
You and I thought the same thing. As I was watching the video, I looked up the actor's name. I think it is Michael Bates. I totally agree. He nailed his voice!
Today I learned that Michael Bates did a stunningly accurate portrayal of Montgomery in “Patton.”!
I was going to say the same thing, spot on.
Bates was a good actor in so many small movie parts and on British t.v..
My thoughts exactly as I listened to the recording.
Resembled him too.
That intro will never get old.
Go watch the one that last 24 hours
17:46 "to various towns in Southern Germany and Austria whose names I can't pronounce, but whose places I have removed" - General Patton being General Patton
7:00 I rented a room from a Philippine family. The grand-dad of the family had been a young teenager when MacArthur returned to the island.
He showed me a picture of himself with the General, something he was, with good reason, quite proud of.
He adored the man.
Say what you will of the man: He may not have been a great combat commander, but what he did in Japan was amazing. He knew how make Japan's surrender at least bearable for the Japanese, and he knew quite well what it would mean for the Japanese to have their Emperor tried and executed by the Americans. He did everything possible to prevent that.
I'm convinced that if he had failed that Japanese-US relations would have never become friendly. The Japanese would have seen the Americans as hostile occupiers and resistance movements would have kept after the occupiers until they finally would have left. Then Japan could have remilitarized and become a threat again, sparking another major US-Japanese war.
George C. Scott’s voice was kept original in the film because of the pipsqueak voice of Patton.
Imagine the opening speech with the voice you heard in the video. Doesn’t have the same gravitas. In a biography film which was released in the toughest days of the Vietnam War, such a staunch character with a similar voice was needed.
The German Field Marshal Von Manstein also had a rather shrill pip-squeak voice that didn't fit his grand appearance.
Thinking back though, the actor who played Monty (Michael Bates) was pretty close to the actual man.
@@CAP198462 Bates was a good actor in all kinds of parts.
@@None-zc5vg I've always imagined Manstein as a nerd with a slide rule, doing his most dangerous work at his desk.
To hear the voices of my grandfather’s generation who led the men of my father’s generation through the war was thought-provoking to hear, thank you Dr Felton
Thank you for piecing together these clips, including Viscount Joseph Slim. I'm an American, but I have read about those terrible battles in the India-Burma theater, most of which get short shrift in WWII histories and films. And as a retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer, I was pleasantly surprised to hear Admiral Nimitz speaking to the home-front. I had never heard his voice before! What a great admiral he was, turning morale around after Pearl Harbor in the early months and then leading a victorious U.S. Navy across the Pacific to Tokyo Bay, almost four years later. I served in Hawaii and saw Admiral John McCain, Jr. at change of command ceremonies. He was a submarine commander in WWII and rose to four-star rank like his father, who was one of Admiral Halsey's task force commanders. I also served in Vietnam at the time General Creighton Abrams was U.S. military commander there. General Abrams was a young tank commander (Combat Command B of the 4th Armored Division) under General Patton and was among the leaders who broke the siege of Bastogne in December 1944 and later helped lay down the specifications for the Abrams tank. In my active duty years in Hawaii and Vietnam, I also served directly under WWII veterans who were finishing up their enlisted and officer careers. What a great bunch of people. Brings back memories. Thanks again, and a salute from a retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer.
I was also pleased to hear the speech excerpt from General Slim. I recently read - and very much enjoyed - George Macdonald Fraser's Quartered Safe Out of Here which recounted his (Fraser's) participation in the Burma Campaign. Fraser had a great many favourable things to say about Slim and clearly admired him greatly. This was my first chance to hear his actual voice.
Unfortunately by the time that I got to the video, Slim's voice was exorcised, apparently for some copywrite reason. Given that I assume the recording was made in the '40s, and General Slim died over 60 years ago, I find it curious that anyone is claiming a copywrite of the recording. Especially so for a person who has been largely forgotten, and deserves to be remembered.
Nimitz thouhgt that Macarthur was a jerk. He had a bad reputation among enlisted men according to my Dad, who was AAF WWII veteran. Patton's was very mixed, and Bradley's was very positive.
Nimitz is probably the smartest man who served since George Washington and maybe Grant, although Nimitz is probably smarter than even grant.
He went by BILL, not Joseph, Joseph was his middle name.
Slim is one of my favourite commanders and his voice, recorded here, is what I thought it would sound like: confident and with a determination to get things done.
"Don't keep dogs and bark yourself."
This was the first time I'd heard any detail about this general (Slim). I'll definitely look into more info about this underrated general. I do know, already, that Burma was one of the toughest, and most horrific campaigns of the war, so it only makes sense to learn more about the Allied leadership of this campaign.
The clip of Montgomery is notable in how well he was imitated by the actor who portrayed him in the film Patton.
I agree, from the nasally, whiny tenor, to his speech impediment.
I thought exactly the same thing. Michael Bates was awesome in that role, especially the scene in the restroom where he laid out his Sicily invasion plan on a fogged mirror to General Bedell Smith, first checking the toilet stalls to be sure no one (that is, Patton) could hear him.
@@johnc2438 Yes! That scene especially!
Watch I was Monty's Double. The same actor was Monty's Double during the war.
Who woulve thought that the invasion of Sicily should have been put forth in a Tunisian lavoratory.
If any of Mark Felton’s books become movies or TV shows, I will definitely watch them. Hopefully Mark Felton himself could be a narrator in them.
Edit: What have I just started in the comments?
I believe one of his books is currently being made into a film with a decently large budget. If you google his name you should be able to find it I can’t remember the name and won’t be out till next year.
@@justinmartin8494 Does Mark have a role in it? Either as a cameo, narrator, or producer?
Mark definitely has a pleasant voice. He should consider a career voice acting, audiobook narration or ASMR.
Reading is impossibly difficult for you?
I didn't know he had books. Thanks
I turn 50 this year and still walk around in shorts, t shirt, cap and trainers. To see Bomber Harris at 51 looking like 71 is frankly sobering! 😀 PS Mark, your films continue to teach me more than school history lessons ever did thank you
It's about the formal clothing and hairdressing... but yeah.. they seem so...ehm.. mature? 54 myself and look a lot younger than those gentleman... it is a time thing I guess..
I am 57 and look younger. Must be the long hours and stress that does that. Maybe a heavy smoker and drinker too?
I’m 50 and just thinking the same thing. I suppose the war made everyone age quickly
Can't imagine the stress Harris was dealing with, regarding the command, media and politicians constantly ragging on him.
Trying to translate De Gaulle's speech :
"Paris,
Paris outraged,
Paris shattered,
Paris tormented,
But Paris liberated.
Liberated by itself, liberated by its people, with the support of the armies of France, with the support of France as a whole, that is to say, of that one France that fights, that is to say, of the one and only France, the real France, the Eternal France."
Sorry if it sounds a bit informal, my English isn't good enough to allow me to use sophisticated words 😅
Excellent. I was looking for a translation.
My uncle was in Burma through the war and came home a shell of a man. He rarely spoke and moved everywhere in almost total silence. We were under threat of death from our parents to never mention the war in front of uncle Harry. 😢
Norm Macdonald tells the story of Uncle Terry left behind by his own guys in Vietnam.
Thank God for the hatchery.
The same for uncle Jimmy, Korean war, you could never approach him from behind and he would get very nervous when he heard an airplane or helicopter, rest in peace uncle Jimmy
I grew up thinking my dad, a veteran who served with the 1st RCR through Sicily, Italy and Holland, was an iron man. Later, he opened up about how nearly useless he was when he returned to civilian life after the war. So many guys like him had to find their own way through it. My Dad did okay, eventually. Others not so much.
I'm so sorry. 😔
My uncle left a small town as a happy-go-lucky boy, and returned home years later a shattered, broken and bitter old man and ne'er-do-well. A common-enough story I think. Even those who came home gave up so much. I mourn my uncles loss of joy a life but realize he was lucky because others gave so much more.
Fascinated by the speech by Sir William Slim. Sadly didn’t know of him until this and would love to see a video on him alone. From his manner and language he’s sounds like my kind of guy!
Was Slim involved with the Chindits, who fought in Burma?
@@dustylover100 Not directly. Slims was in charge of the Fourteenth Army in Burma and it had very loose command over the Chindits, which operated under the command of Maj Gen Wingate. Slims was however a key figure in appointing Wingate's successor, Lt Gen Lemtaigne, when Wingate was killed in an aircraft accident in 1944.
@@kutter_ttl6786 Bill Slim was a former Grammar School boy, so not of the upper class. While holding the field rank of General, his substantive rank was something like Captain!
Mountbatten had been persuaded to replace him as head of the 14th Army and only backed down when there was a near mutiny over the decision.
I don't know of any video focusing on Slim but George Macdonald Fraser's account of his own war years in the Burma Campaign mentions Slim many times and very favourably. That excellent book might be a good starting point for you in learning more about Slim.
Suggest you read, "Defeat into Victory", Slim's account of this campaign. He is espousing, "directive control" in this speech. The Burma Campaign deserves recounting. The greatest enemy: disease.
Michael Hammond Bates who played Montgomery in the 1970 movie "Patton" did an outstanding performance. Not only did he look like the famous Field Marshall, his voice was perfect. Interesting fact about the actor During World War II he served in the Burma Campaign as a major with the Brigade of Gurkhas.
In 1966 Mongomery came to talk us at an Army Cadet Force camp in Frimley. A very small but hugely charismatic man, who spoke to us in his normal voice.
Best history videos on UA-cam hands down. I really hope these continue.
They will continue while I have breath in my body!
@@MarkFeltonProductions that is a very bold statement sir! But I'll take it! Love your video's Mark, until my last breath I will watch them!
@@MarkFeltonProductions I agree with Drew. I don't know when you started but I'm sure glad I found your extremely informative videos. Thank you.
@@MarkFeltonProductions best news I have heard all day! Always interesting, original and thought provoking. Many thanks.
@@MarkFeltonProductions here,
👑,but you go on and take it .
That was the best boss statement I've ever seen and thought "bad ass"
Wow…the actor who portrayed Monty in the movie Patton was spot on with his voice!
Just watched " i was monties double" again today..worth watching!
Just what I was going to say!
Montgomery, EXACTLY like the actor playing him in Patton. The speech patterns, pronunciations and voice influxtions, 100% spot on!
The Nuremberg the German generals sounded like "AAAAHHHHGGGGGAAAHH!!"
Dwight Eisenhower emanated with power with his confidence, deep voice and he was far more stable and responsible personality than most of others in the video. He was also a very decent man.
Well, Charles de Gaulle, his voice, his style of speech, his gestures, his body language reminds me one person...
I'm sure you think it is obvious who you mean but it's certainly not obvious to me....
@@hughmungus1767 I think he means Adolph Hitler
Ike's D-Day address to the troops was absolutely masterful.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he kind of sounded and gestured like a French Hitler.
This is the sort of high quality content that was once routinely broadcast on BBC2.
A few months ago, I bumped into a very old TV interview of Monty (had no idea he had ever been on TV) and his voice was exactly what I had expected.
I've never heard that speech by Eisenhower before. But hearing him there makes me so proud that we share the same soil and homeland.
I too just heard him speak and it got my chest pumped up!
We need an A.I generated voice for Eisenhower so I can listen to him reading books about WW2 to me
I went to church with a man when I was a kid that served in WW2. He never really spoke of his service or such. Only way I knew of it was he would be recognized during veterans day church services when all that served would stand and recieve applause and such. Learned later on as an adult he was a driver for Patton. Sure wish he was alive today so maybe I could talk to him a while and see if he'd tell any stories.
I’m absolutely addicted to your channel. The amount of work that you put into each video is nothing short of stellar! Thank you for all you do for us. We appreciate you!
Well said!! I agree with you wholeheartedly. 👍
Dr Mark Felton coming with a banger after banger 🙌🏼
He's a modern day phenomenon and I just can't fathom how he's managing all his load!!?
@@DaveSCameron pause
@@jejejeje4491 Where?
Patton was also wealthy. The richest General in WWII.
MacArthur served 51 years, was offered a 6th star and, as military governor of Japan, would have been their first President if he accepted it.
Eisenhower smoked 4 packs a day.
It's no wonder Ike died in 1969 at age 78. He suffered several heart attacks, pneumonia and congestive heart failure due to his years of smoking.
"This chap Rommel".....Monty sounded exactly like I always imagined. 😄
I think that Ike was an amazing General with a thankless task of keeping all of the other Generals egos in check.
I like Ike!
...and that included de Gaulle.
Amazing career trajectory too.
I remember being blown away when I first saw that Patton clip a few years ago. All I’d ever known was the movie version. This was first time I’d heard Nimitz and DeGaulle and too bad there wasn’t one of Bradley.
Bradley was not a critical figure. He got the rank through getting close to Marshall and Ike and Patton's personal behavior. The first thing Ike did after the Battle of the Bulge began was sideline Brad and turn to Monty and Patton.
@@douglasturner6153 He was still the army group commander and that makes him significant. He also commanded American forces on D-Day. Ike only turned to Montgomery during the bulge because our forces were split and he could better coordinate the response from the northern shoulder.
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That's the way to play it. Fact is Ike didn't have the confidence in him when it came to the crunch. Doubly insulting putting Monty in.
@@douglasturner6153 In all my reading of WWII the last 40 years theres been nothing that stated Ike didn't have confidence in him. Monty was brought in for the reasons I stated above and nothing more.
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A safe and comfortable beaurocratic choice. A little like Ike himself. But Ike had worries and he knew he needed Patton around
Poor Eisenhower.
He had to listen to that lecturing with that voice
Monty.
All the speeches presented in this video are very powerful and passionate. I have to say that my favorite two are from Admiral Nimitz and from General Slim. I especially appreciate General Slim's remark/advice: "Don't keep dogs and bark yourself." -brilliant.
My French is a little rusty, but from what I gathered from this clip, Gen. Charles de Gaulle's speech sang all the praises to the French element who participated in the liberation of Paris, _but excluded everybody else._ Again: Rusty French.
Other than Monty and Eisenhower, I can't say I had ever heard any other general of WW II speak
Mark Clark spoke bollox aplenty along with That Patton loon.
Sir Brian Horrocks, the general who led the British tanks in a futile attempt to reach the paratroopers at Arnhem, became a TV historian and he obviously knew his stuff.
Rommel and Dönitz come to mind, Göring aswell
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I've heard Ridgway speak in some footage, but it was from his Korean War service. He spoke with a mild-mannered drawl mixed with a slight growl. I was actually impressed by how clear he spoke!
I would love to hear more from Soviet, German, Italian, Japanese, and Chinese generals. Another video on national leaders would be cool too!
Especially Chiang, whom Stilwell called "Peanut." Soong Mei-ling was a Wellesley girl whose English was beyond reproach, but the Generalissimo, according to Tuchman, had the Mandarin equivalent of a Flatbush accent.
Are you suggesting that there were some effective generals or field marshals among the Reds or the Nazis?
@@jean6872 Uh, yeah.
@@programmer6394 Ha!
I learned three things from this video.
1) It's impossible to speak French authoritatively.
2) Patton is pretty good with dark humor.
3) Slim sounds like an amazing general, and it's obvious his natural leadership fortified his men and galvanized their purposes way outside of what their meager logistics could offer. He built a fighting force out out sheer personal will...
And they fought like lions because of it.
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Speaking french authoritavely is not a matter of voice or volume. For us french it is more about carefully choosing words, determined but calm. It's a cultural thing.
But in this clip de Gaulle is not addressing his men with orders, rather the french nation as a whole making them believe in their own power to take back the country. Bad times are soon over, liberation has finally come after 4 years.
@@ClemDiamond I could not understand the entire clip, but of what I could, I thought his rhetoric was very fine, very well structured and delivered. And very French...
@@ClemDiamond Je ne comprends pas ce que monsieur Voisin veut dire par cela. Mais il y a des gens anglophones qui choisissent leurs mots avec soin, aussi. 😉
@@williamneumyer7147 Bien sûr ! Je ne voulais pas dire que les autres ne travaillent pas leurs discours. J'ai juste l'impression que les Français portent moins attention à la voix que les Américains par exemple qui apprécient une voix forte et claire. On ne va pas se mentir, le général de Gaulle n'avait pas la voix la plus agréable ou mélodieuse, mais on le cite régulièrement en l'imitant un peu et il y a encore beaucoup d'attachement à lui.
Churchill est un peu l'équivalent pour les Britanniques, je donne moi-même un contre-exemple. ^^
@@ClemDiamond Bien entendu. J'aime bien l'image du chat. (De la chatte?)
Still remember de Gaulle's 1967 speech in Montreal where he uttered ""Vive le Québec libre!" The government of Canada was not impressed.
Nor English Canada!
This is a great Topic. Working as Historian for the IFZ in Munich i must have listened to thousands of hours of German Generals but also other Military Personnel, there is a lot available including videotaped Conversations & Interviews but sadly only in German, though many Generals especially also spoke good english, i hope sometime in the near Future to work on english subtitles for each of them & get them to the International Public.
It's always fascinating to listen to certain prominent Personalities of WW2, Generals especially in my Opinion as they all sound much more calm & collected and also the Sentences they say are much more straight & honest most of the Time.
The same is true for most Generals of other Nations which are just as interesting to listen to.
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden and keep up the great Topics you choose to pick for Videos Mark
Wtf is IFZ?
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Institut für Zeitgeschichte (Institute for Contemporary History) which was created right after the War. The english wikipedia page of it is giving a decent overview if you're interested
I hope your ideas for translation can come to fruition soon. The more we understand the lessons of History, the better chance to avoid repeating past mistakes. Can't say I'm feeling very optimistic at his point in time, though.
It's crazy to think that even though most of us don't understand French you can undoubtedly feel the charisma of Charles de Gaulle...that's incredible
I’ve been a Patton fan since childhood, my father got me into military documentaries early on, all these brave men are very honorable.
It's interesting to note how theatrical most of the voices were back in the day. Only Eisenhower and Patton sounded normal to me.
Being exposed to so much WWII history through film and television, this is a welcome addition to the dictator video you did last year or so. Incidentally, Monty sounds much like John Cleese in a Python sketch in both his delivery and mannerisms of his voice.
Monty reminded me more of Peter Jones, the narrator in the original Hitchikers' Guide To The Galaxy.
Sounds more like Elmer "wascally wabbit" Fudd.
To be precise i think Monty sounds more like Michael Palin as pontius pilate in the life of brian, as Monty had difficulty with his rs ("Wommel") much like Pilate ("Wudolph the wed nosed weindeer")
There are no shortage of War
Historians. As a History Nerd who listens & reads all of them I can say There is a Shortage Of Historians Who can Produce & Narrate with what Radio or Television Calls a golden voice that captures and keeps the listener or viewers attention. Mark Felton is one of a few who can do so. Ken Bernstein is another one
Felton has never done a bad documentary. Spot on.
I dont have a clue how you put out so much quality content, most youtubers sacrifice quality when they put out so many videos. Please keep it up Dr. FELTON
You can always tell footage with original audio or audio added post-production because the sound quality on edited footage is always very clear, whereas with original audio, the air pressure from things like an artillery piece firing hits the mic and causes a lot of white noise, like rushing wind.
It's interesting to hear how Montgomery planned to deal with Wommel.
He wanted to deal with him after the blake in
you mean the wascaly wabbit !?🤔😝🤨
He might've been a descendant of Bigus Dicus all the way back to Roman times
Had he survived the war he might have been weleased from Spandau pwison
Thanks for the videos. First time I’ve ever heard Fleet Admiral Nimitz voice. I did not realize how soft spoken he was.
Old generals never die, they just fade away. But we remember them, honor them, and love them. Thanks guys for fearlessly leading your men and women. Our freedom is priceless to us.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos, it was a surprise to hear the voice of Bill Slim. He really was so underrated I thought he wouldn’t have been covered.
I have to say that General Slim sounded the most most friendly and engaging chap amongst that group shown.
Some of the people in the audience had to think about the dog comment.
There's something about hearing the voices of the men who did the work that engenders more feeling than any movie production. Thanks again, Mark Felton, for bringing history to life!
I had an Uncle who served in the 8th Army under Monty. His party piece was doing an impersonation of Monty addressing the troops. Hearing Monty's voice here reminds me how good my Uncle's take on it was. Really pleased that you were able to include Bill Slim who was a superlative leader of men.
I knew what Monty sounded like because he came to "Speech Day" at our school in the early 1960s. Mountbatten came across as always right in his decisions but a number of those who served under him didn't have a good opinion of him.
11:10 "of all the crosses I bore, the Cross of Lorraine was the heaviest!" - Churchill
Some of these were definitely a first for me but some of them I had heard before. The one I remember hearing first was of course Eisenhower from Call of Duty 2 video game and my first thought when I heard his voice is that his voice reminds me so much of the actor Edward Platt. (Think Get Smart series) Patton with that nasaly voice may not be intimidating but he certainly never let that stop him. Absolutely so cool hearing these voices so clearly and all in one video thank you so much Dr. Mark Felton, you have outdone yourself again.
Eisenhower and the actor Jack Webb, Sgt Joe Friday from "Dragnet", sound very similar.
@@ZER0ZER0SE7EN Hmmmm they don't sound as similar I at least not to me. Jack webb voice has a bit of a different time to me than Eisenhower. Guess I've never really thought they sounded much the same before.
@@PennsyPappas call of duty 2 hsahfashsah
Why they don't make Game about the biggest invasion in Human History?
German (axis helped a bit) invasion of Soviet Union or Operation Barbarossa
All the allied generals were iconic and had such swagger. For me, it’s Patton with his stared helmet and 2 white handled revolvers. That man was a bad ass
Hi Mark! Thanks for this. I, as a Canadian, found it interesting that Eisenhower spoke of the Canadians first and went on to name a couple of Canadian Generals (ie- Crerar). Love to hear their voices here.... thanks!
To hear the voices of these individuals gives them more historical impact than just words on a page...great video sir!
Marvellous choice and moving as ever. My father served under Harris in a perspex turret as a teenager and had a nuanced view. Slim is a revelation (and of course Le General).
Lol, "nuanced", eh?
Harris was a scapegoat for Churchill, who was the one who gave him his orders.
Obviously it took all of these great leaders' talent to win the war, but I'm always partial to General Eisenhower. He was the greatest soldier that ever lived.
I don't think he was the greatest soldier ever but he was definitely the man for that job. Not even Marshall could have pulled that off.
This was an outstanding presentation. I would never have guessed that all those famous WWII newsreels were silent. There is always so much to learn.
Hearing all those heroic figures with their varying egos and personalities is indeed a treat.
Thank you so much.
When I compare Monty‘s 1942 speech to Rommel’s speech before 1944, it comes over rather theatrically. As a soldier I would have been more impressed by Rommel, due to his more natural, yet optimistic diction. And I understand and like Eisenhower, who said something like: „I studied theatricals under McArthur“
Agree!
Montgomery made an effort to talk to his men directly and keep them informed of his plans, which would have made up for his delivery I'm sure.
Ike served on MacArthur's staff during the early 30s when Mac was Chief of Staff of the Army.
@@gregb6469 He wasn't there when MacArthur destroyed and killed the WW1 Vets. His career should have ended right there . .
You have to bear in mind when the speech was given, and to what type of audience. Monty's speech in 1942 was given to troops who had become demoralised due to failure after failure in British leadership in the North African campaign. Montgomery was announcing a change of attitude through his speech. There's also always the cultural influence of the nationality of the speaker - In this case, British realism.
Everything I've read about Slim suggests that he was absolutely adored by the men under his command. What I wouldn't give to hear what Gen Orde Wingate sounded like! Talk about eccentric! And also apparently beloved.
Slim seems like a British version of Nimitz. Henry Fonda captured his manner in a film in which he played him, but adopted a slight Texas drawl. I was surprised but should not have been because the Admiral
s accent was like that of my Dad, who was a Texas German of the same generation , with a slight burr.
Thank you Dr. Felton for yet another balanced and thoroughly enjoyable episode. As an American, I also appreciated the efforts of Montgomery and Harris. Theres was a tough job. I always loved Montys quiet English control, wearing the beret(a hat i dont care for on most people, as I see it as a symbol of communism) and tanker badge. Ike was legend. Were were lucky he honed his administrative skills under MacArthur(who could be a it much), while Aid de Camp. Patton, well, he had his foibles, but i think was a good man at heart. As someone who hunts, and specifically enjoys bird hunting over a good English Setter, it was bitter sweet that he died going out for birds while in Germany. Thank you again for such good, exact, interesting content.
Good thing Ike was there to help MacArthur rubber stamp the Bonus Marcher crackdown paperwork!Real lucky thing that!
18:26 hearing Eisenhower speak made me admire him even more; brave yet compassionate; a true and righteous leader
I always got the impression that de Gaulle loathed the British. He seems to be claiming that Paris was liberated by its own people, not mentioning the allies at all.
Yes, he did say that (at least according to my weak knowledge of French) - I thought how typical of deGaulle.
Well it was, the free French were given the right to enter Paris first.
@@craigevans6156 Alors! That doesn't mean that they "liberated" Paris. Not to minimize the heroic work of the French Resistance and the Free French forces, but they hardly can claim the lion's share of the credit. deGaulle was like the quarterback who takes all the credit for himself and disses his offensive line. No quarterback with an ounce of sense would ever do that of course, but deGaulle made a living at it.
At one point during some commemorative ceremony he was mouthing off to an American official and shouted that he wanted every American soldier out of France. The American just said, "Including the ones under the ground?" That shut him up, briefly.
@@rabbi120348 This is a difficult one, you have to remember the situation at the time and it was politically acceptable at the time for this to be Recognised at the time as the right thing to do
We have to remember the context of 1944. The allies had the project to administer France like the will do with Japan, Germany and Italy. And it is thank to the action of De Gaulle that France could stay sovereign by herself. So for this goal De Gaulle have to present to the world a France stronger than she is really at this period. Do not see in this speech an ingratitude towards the allies.
I'm kind of surprised Eisenhower was the only famous WW2 general to transfer into politics. If Patton survived possibly he might have tried. But Monty and MacArthur could have had fair chances at winning office after the war.
I believe Macarthur was gunning for the Republican nomination for president in 1952. He delivered the keynote address at the 1952 Republican National Convention.
@@vnthakkar Yeah he was gunning for it but wasn't very popular, and his dismal performance in Korea didn't help.
@@sharlin648 fair point, if Eisenhower wasn't in the race I imagine he would have stood a fair chance against Taft.
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His weak perform as once in the 52 Wisconsin primary finished any aspirations he had. He was not particularly popular here.
Ike was first and foremost a political general. Given the job he was in he had to be.
Thank You Dr. Felton! This is just the kind of thing that I personally find endlessly fascinating! I had heard a few, DeGaule, Bomber Harris, and certainly the Legendary President Eisenhower, but the others were mute to me, though possibly on UA-cam or other sites. Again Thank You for this!
Thank you very much for doing this. Sharing voices from the past of key people instrumental in winning WWII is amazing.
This is a fantastic glimpse into the personalities of WW2 titans. Their tone and connotations do more to help us understand them then just video alone. Thanks Mark for the uniquely enlightening video.
4:26 Michael Bates used that very similar voice Montgomery in the movie Patton (1970). He studied all the audio at the time to get his dialect and succinct dialogue correct, even down to the same voice level at the end of a sentence and and heighten particular words. Great work of research and rehearsal. Montgomery was alive at the time of the release of the movie.
George C. Scott had a voice nothing like the real Patton.
Yeah oddly more like Patton's son.
Marvelous research that answers great questions. Love the comments preceedung each commander, especially how Eisenhower "keep everyone singing on the same hymnal sheet." Thank you very much.
Very late watching my notifications of Mark Felton...but as always a great episode of famous military voices!
My uncle was at an airfield just south of Manila on Dec. 8, 1941 27th Bomb Group Light AAF. His outfit had arrived in the Philippines the month before by ship from San Fransico in Operation Plum. He would fight on Bataan, survive the death march and die of beriberi at Cabanatuan P.O.W. camp in December the following year. His remains were brought home at the request of his mother (my grandmother) in the summer of 1949. The AAF was poorly led in the Philippines and much like the aircraft at Ford Field in Pearl Harbor suffered the same fate under the same sun.
Was that the same military that fought and occupied the Philliphines in 1899-1902? Where up to a million civilians were killed due to it?
@@Canadianvoice -- According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, Filipino deaths were les than 250,000. That was a war that should never have been fought, but both sides took a shoot-now-ask-questions-later approach to solving their differences. However, you must never forget the many, many thousands of Americans who died defending, then liberating, the Philippines from Japanese attack and occupation.
@@gregb6469 so when America occupies a country its justified kills a bunch of people even when the Japanese tried to help the Filipinos 45 years before wwii, it's okay. But when Japan does what they were taught by colonists countries like U.S.A. France and UK it's a crime. It's kinda like Frankenstein monster, the west created imperialist Japan.
An exceedingly interesting episode. Many thanks, Dr. Felton!
Now I can't help but wonder how many voice recordings we have of famous WW1 leaders.
In 1964, CBS News did a special program on the 20th Anniversary of D-Day in which Gen. Eisenhower and Walter Cronkite toured Normandy... including Ike driving Cronkite up the beach in a Jeep. The General's recollections are fascinating. It's an incredible program and available on UA-cam.
Thank you, just found it and look forward to watching it.
Giving life to history once again, thank you Mark!
Great way to pass the time while I wait for my shift to start! Thanks as always for the lovely content, Dr. Felton!
It is interesting that de Gaulle's delivery, modulation, growl effect, and even the theatrical hand and head gestures bear quite a similarity to Hitler's. I suppose this was a common public speaking technique in Europe at the time.
Hitler came up with it but it revolutionized speech giving to a point that everyone did it. It won the faith of the people
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that!
Also, the small mustache and slicked hair.
It would be interesting to see and hear a clip of De Gaulle when he was just a general and not a political leader as well and see if there were any differences.
Maybe they were all imitating der Fuehrer?
Thank you, Mark, you have added a third dimension to my understanding of these generals. I am always looking for the factor which makes a man a leader. Monty's speech, and many others, solidified my belief that a general can make a difference in an army's performance. Also, I appreciate the emphasis on those who are underrated. I will have to look into General Slim, in particular, more closely. I am aware of his efforts in Asia and his contribution, but, if you are correct, it is definitely underrate. Great video, as always.
Truly a great video. I’m always gratified by Dr. Felton’s wonderful sense of the important issues of history, our people and war.
Very interesting. I hope to hear more, Dr. Felton!
Mark. I remember Monty doing a tv series probably late 50’s on BBC. Do you know if the film is still available anywhere ? I would love to see them again.
Check archives of the BBC, they usually have that on a streaming service. Or they might have a record of Monty’s public appearances.
Or try the Imperial War Museum?
Lord Mountbatten did a B&W series too.Very Great !!!
That Eisenhower speech actually gave me chills