Myoga Ginger - Planting, Dividing and Site Considerations
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2020
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In this video we share notes on how we expand our Myoga ginger plantings at our small nursery. Most importantly we show the process of planting out bare root Myoga in the garden to help make sure anyone who has ordered the plant from us has easy to follow instructions.
We've been amazed at how hardy and easy this plant is to grow, and so far it has proven to be completely able to handle our 1200' elevation, gentle north facing slope with high water table down to -10F. If you are colder than zone 5B we'd encourage you to plant it with season extension. Once you have ample plant material in that space you can expand them into an open garden to explore and learn if they are hardy where you are too!
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6:20 - Skip to this part of the video if you are just interested in seeing bare root Myoga roots being set out in the garden. We demonstrate the same type of plant material we ship to folks being planted at this point. Enjoy the whole video if you'd like, too! :)
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Thank you for this informative video. I keep missing my window of opportunity, it seems, for getting some of this amazing plant.
Not to make you blush, but I am struck by how respectful, gentle and kind you both are. That you share, inform and teach us for years on end makes me very happy and very grateful. You both seem like such diligent hard working people, yet you continue to take the time to share your experiences and educate us. These days, this year, makes those attributes seem so rare and so precious. Thank you for being such wonderful people. You give me hope for our species.
Wow, such kind words! You've been a real consistent, steady, and super thoughtful member of this community we're lucky to be a part of, so thank YOU for being here, sharing so many ideas and thoughts with us and being a positive and helpful person in all this! It really is our pleasure to share.
I am impressed that you pushed the growing zone so well with this ginger. Great discovery.
We didn't push it, the ginger did!
I’m not going to be planting any ginger this year, but these videos are a balm, if only for a few minutes, against the absolute insanity and distress of what’s going on around us all.
I planted 3 cultivars of mioga (Dancing Crane, White Feather and Silver Arrow) about 6 years ago here in Maine. They are fully unprotected and have seen lows of -17F. and all 3 cultivars are doing well. I agree....they were expensive for what was sent which made me pretty unhappy, but now that they've spread into large clumps it doesn't seem so bad anymore. I look forward to any additional findings you have on how to enjoy eating it!
I found this: ua-cam.com/video/x9DJZ2IduyU/v-deo.html. Except for the novel "Italian style myoga," I wouldn't call their stuff "recipes," but perhaps enough information on how some Japanese restaurants or families cook with it to launch your own experimentation.
Thank you for making this vid. All of your vids are packed with wisdom and good for the soul nuggets. God bless you guys!
Watched this video with my morning beverage, somehow i know it’s going to be a great day now. Thanks y’all, keep it up!
Myoga is good in Kyurisu. Slice Lebanese or Japanese cucumber very thin. Sprinkle sea salt, rub gently like laundry for a minute, and rest for a while. Squeeze moisture out of cucumber, add soy sauce 1TBS, rice vinegar 3 TBS, pinch of sugar (optional). Then add thinly sliced Myoga. This is a refreshing summer garden salad (sunomono).
Sounds delightful!
Thanks so much for making this video. This sort of thing is a genuine public service. Expanding the range of a useful food or medicinal crop is fantastic. I had grown mioga ginger many years ago, but only the variegated ornamental clones, and those would not overwinter for me in zone 6b even with careful siting and heavy mulching. It certainly seems the green clones have greater vigor and hardiness. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻😁
Still learning as we go, but yes, so far they seem incredibly vigorous.
Love all the different plants growing in that hoop house !!!!☺
If we have time, it would be nice to take a video tour of that space, I feel like we finally got the fall timing right!
Been growing yoga for years and wanted to share it , thank you for your excellent video!
Really amazing plant, isn't it!
Great video as usual, the videos are never too long than it needs to be for me! Always enjoyable.
Glad you like them!
I have been growing Myoga for about 10 years in zone 5, though several polar vortex winters, and they are fully hardy for me here in SW Michigan. Mine get about 1/2 day sun, but I also have some in nearly full shade. I don't do anything special to mulch them after the first year and also haven't watered them in years (in pretty dry/sandy soil) and they're still surviving. Wish they had more of a ginger flavor, but my wife is Japanese and likes to eat the flower bulbs, which tend to show up in late August/early September here.
very late rise for me today. The bright side I got to have breakfast and enjoy my coffee here. aaawwww thx U
Wonderful! TY!
You are so welcome!
hi i would like to order also
gratitude💚🌱
new ginger variety to me.
Thanks for sharing, be well
umeboshi pickles sound awesome. will try that next year for sure.
That's another plant on the list! Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the information.
Lovely, thank you.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, awesome!
WOW!! I have been looking for this very peculiar pickled ginger I had at Johnny’s noodle King restaurant in Detroit for about five years now. I’ve finally figured out what it is, myoga garlic. So I bought one from a seller on Etsy it was very pricey for a 10 inch tall, thinner than a pencil plant. But I did it because I want to make this pickled ginger. I said to myself I have to figure out how to plant this and take care of it I’m going to edible acres just the off chance that they might’ve heard of it before. Maybe Sasha could recommend a pickling solution for it. Low and behold you do know what it is, you have the plant yourself, Sasha has pickled it, you sell it AND you have a video on it. You guys are so freaking amazing I appreciate you so much!!! Thank you so much. It was my understanding it needed a warmer climate I am in five be as well in Michigan I was going to put it into a pot that I can bring in during the winter until I get my greenhouse built. So I’ll see how well it grows it’s in my window in my house right now and then split it up put some outside and then keep a reserve in a pot I can bring inside just in case. The pickled ginger I had was like smaller shoots though they were small round about an inch inch and a half long not in that flower. I saw another picture and it looks like if you open that flower there are cylinder type of structures in there maybe that’s it. Anyhow thank you so very much. It would be great if Sasha could write a booklet on her favorite Briens and pickling recipes because I would certainly be in line to buy it. Any thoughts on what to use typical this ginger I know you mentioned a pickling plum sauce she made but that’s probably out of my league right now at this moment LOL. Sorry such a long comment but I was so excited, simply extraordinary, thank you so much ❤️
So glad you've got it growing! We're zone 5b and they coast through our winter with absolutely no problems, with on protection, outside!!! This spring I'd encourage you to divide and expand the Myoga into your garden to let them naturalize :)
Great video
that was very informative, need to plant some and wanted to put them under some trees, no space otherwise. Possibly a good idea.
Around trees makes a lot of great sense... Happy growing!
Great video. Thanks for sharing ;)
lovely video, i wish we had a bit less rain here in Ireland 😀👍🧤
Synchronicity! Just came across myoga ginger last week and put it on my list as I live in a cool climate (Wales). Never heard about it before. And, no it was not google sending me this way because I did a search. I've been subscribed to this channel for a while now.
I have grown regular ginger in the house. It was very easy and the plants were vigorous, but I did something wrong when overwintering - too wet or too dry. They didn't survive. I will give both a try. I do love the regular type, and will persevere, but good to have a bit of a fall back on something similar that stands a good chance of surviving. Thanks for showing how to plant. I can see now that the roots are nothing like regular ginger.
Regular ginger dies back to the ground when they are ready to harvest. You most likely didn't do anything wrong or "kill" yours, they just went dormant according to their internal clock. Similar to potatoes. When the stems die back, it's time to harvest. In their natural habitat, they most likely expect a certain number of growing days and automatically go dormant in expectation of winter after they're done.
@@XoroksComment alas, is wasn't just the tops that died back. I didn't harvest any when the tops died back as they were in their first year and I wanted to allow the plant to get more established, but when they didn't come back up the next year I found the roots were shrivelled and mouldy.
Ginger comes from an Asian monsoon climate: very wet summer, fairly dry during the winter dormant season. It isn't as prone to death as are orchids from the same area, but would go easy on the watering when it is dormant especially since you are in a very maritime area that might not have seasonal droughts.
Hi, thx for the video. Do you recomand a specific variety or all myoga can do fine?
so i found this plant on clearance in a garden center in the annual section. yes, it was expensive (and variegated, so it was extra fancy so 30$ each). despite it being in the annual section, it was labeled as hardy to CAN zone 4 (USA zone 3).... so I asked, they said it was mislabeled and was actually hardy to Can zone 8 (USA zone 7). Because I was interested and no one had bought these plants, I somehow ended up with a whole tray for free, with the duty to report back in the Spring and let them know if it did survive the winter. I can't wait! I planted some against an east facing foundation, some against a south facing foundation, and finally on the suggestion of the garden center and google i planted one indoors. so far they are doing fine, except for the indoor one that seems to have gone dormant. I'm in Canada zone 5, USA equivalent zone 4.
Would love to hear from you on how this experiment works out!
HI there. I have been growing Myoga for about 3 years now. It is spreading amongst my fruit trees. I'm a bit worried it might take over and impact the fruit tree. Could you tell me how you transport it as I am in a local crop swap community and would like to offer it other growers to try.
When will this plant be available on your website?
I've been looking everywhere, but I can't find info on whether myoga will flower in the first year after transplanting? (planted last fall, it's doing VERY WELL this summer, and keep looking for flowers) We're in zone 6b, North Carolina. It was fun to watch this video again, whenever I'm moving plants, I've got my trusty bucket of water and remember the way you said "immediately" LOL.
It should potentially flower in year one. Ours are JUST beginning to want to flower now, so it certainly isn't an early flower!
@@edibleacres thanks for giving my ginger a collective unconscious nudge it needed...my first flower popped up overnight!
Ours has not shown any signs of life yet this spring, in SW Michigan. Fuki is leafing out, Crosnes and sweet cicely have come up. Patience, or have they not made it through winter?
I have lots of Myoga growing if yours didn't make it. They are quite late to emerge in the spring, every year I think my patch has died, but they come back.
Can you tell me what the soil or potting mix or mulch you use to grow Myoga?? When you have it available again?
We make our mixes in very informal ways. This would have been some aged compost, maybe a little perlite, etc. But they are most happy growing in the earth!
If i received a bare root in late fall early winter should i plant them as soon as i get them or keep them in the garage until spring? It gets down to about 5° F where i live in tbe winters
Specifically Myoga... maybe worth keeping them protected for the winter a bit, for their first season
Intreasted viedo. Do you sale the plant (root)?
We do. We'll have ample inventory on March 1st on our website.
I received my ginger maybe two weeks ago, I was going to ask for an instructional video. Anyways I planted a little deeper than you did.... should u dig it up or will it be okay?
I think deeper might not be a bad idea if you have a pretty cold winter where you are. You can always pull the soil back just a bit in the spring if you are concerned, but I think that was a reasonable call for sure...
How tall do these get outside where the frost sends them dormant each year?
When I was in FL, I planted ornamental gingers and tumeric around the bases of trees (adjusting for the light preference of each type). Your hoop house specimen was really tall, though this is probably due to lack of frost (as well as better soil than exists in Florida). I would like to plant these near the base of espaliered fruit trees so that the pears etc can have the benefit of ginger aromas confusing pests (I normally use chives), the myogi can get some shade, and I can have an ornamental when the trees aren't in bloom. But my plan is to keep the fruit trees below 8' where I can harvest without a ladder. A tall understory would shade the trees. Tumeric would be the right size but isn't hardy in my current zone (same as yours) and I don't really want to rummage for root crops under woody plants, lest I injure the tree roots. Would this be a suitable companion for small espaliers or just for tall trees?
Seems like a neat idea. The Myoga we grow seems to be quite variable in size... as tall as 3-4' in leaf and an average of maybe 2-3' tall in most contexts we have them in.
Hi, I am just curious what season should you split and transplant the Myoga? Cheers
I can't say I know for sure since we are still learning about this interesting plant... That said, I would suspect you'd get the most health and vigor if you divided in mid to later spring before they really bud out and start growing. Most members of this class of plants seem to really enjoy warm soil and good sun so disturbance happening as close to that time as possible seems ideal.
@@edibleacres Thank you
The ginger I am familiar with is used for the roots. Can this be used for the roots? Or is the flower the only culinary use?
Probably best to ask a Japanese person, but to my knowledge, the flower buds (not sure if that meant just the flowers, or the whole inflorescence [which in Zingiber has bracts] as shown here) and young spring shoots (like asparagus or Solomon's seal, but spicy) are the only parts eaten. Zingiber is a big genus and they aren't all used the same. The ornamental one (red pine cone ginger) I had as a kid in Florida had been domesticated purely for use as shampoo, and wasn't considered edible at all.
Did more research, and it is the spike (bracts etc), not the flowers per se, that is eaten.
We are just starting again with one mail order miyoga plant. Is it too late to plant it or should we wait till next year? Our miyoga disappeared after 25 years. Can we order from you?
We plan to offer this plant again in the fall for sure, but our main sales season for Myoga is spring. Definitely plant out what you have!
How do I get on the list for when it’s available again?
We have a mailing list you can sign up for, available at edibleacres.org on the main page, if that is of interest. We don't send many emails.
when is it back to ordered in your website?
We will renew inventory on March 1st. Thanks!
Will come back to order on March
Hi, how much water do you think they need?
We have some in a high tunnel that gets quite warm and doesn't get a lot of watering so I suspect a wide range works for them
hi can i grow in Vancouver, Canada?
I'm not sure if there are nurseries up in Canada that offer them, but if you find one, send it along through our contact page at edibleacres.org so we can share it with others.
I would love to order from someone like you.
Can you recommend someone in Europe? Germany?
Thank you
I wish! I don't know of any... Maybe there are some good comments that can give you a lead from this past video?
ua-cam.com/video/YaOIxOEJOx8/v-deo.html
I live in Austria and ordered mine from Amazona Organics Düsseldorf last spring :)
how to buy myoga ginger from you? thank you very much
We will offer it again on edibleacres.org this fall
How often do you water them
Once they are settled into the earth and watered initially and provided a mulch they are pretty much good to go. We haven't followed up with watering once!
@@edibleacres thank you.
I would like to order Myoga Ginger Roots from you
Wonderful, we open up March 1st for orders
Where can I buy seeds?
I don't know about seed but we offer plants, we'll have them available March 1st
Just tried to order and it's alreay out of stock.
It was probably out of stock since Oct 1, or even Sep 1.
They are a small nursery, and have 78,600 people who are interested in gardens watching their videos. I got some trees this year, but I had to set my alarm clock.
@@CorwynGC lol! But the video was just posted when I went to purchase them.
If you don't have them don't direct people to the website to purchase them.
@@zaneymay
Did he say go to the website now to buy them? I missed that. My other point still holds, they sell out FAST.
@@CorwynGC in description
I put a link to it in the description that sends folks to the website. I'm sorry for any frustrations there, just thought having more info could be useful. We are a tiny nursery and can barely keep up with the interest in the plants we grow.
Can i eatthe root
I do not know.
gone,,,,,but still a great video,,,,love dirty hands
New grower with myoga, please buy the root not the plant. Trust me. I bought root and plant before. Root will give you some myoga. Plant will require few years to achieve the goal. All these plants are perennial. I have a lot of these myoga from roots and the plant are in 2 years and still does not have any myoga flower yet.
We have only offered Myoga as bare root plants, and we tend to give 2-3 extra bits in each order to give folks the absolute best chance