Anytime a commentator says "It's close" or "oooh, I don't know." I've found that to be code for "The network gets mad at me when I say it's one way or the other and make the officials look bad when the final ruling doesn't agree with what I just said to the viewers."
@@joeraguso5376I know right? It’s not like I shoved money under the table to the ref if he made sure Michigan was the outright winner. It’s not like college football has anything to gain if the blue bloods of college football have a better record 😂…. That’s just crazy talk 😳
@@dsanders5142 That would lead to all kinds of theories that COULD BE true. Too much for me to consider or I'd be pissed off of every loss of my home teams I see. Besides if they're so powerful, name me who has more power than mafia owned Vegas? Undergrounds typically make money the old fashioned way, off of degenerates and gambling addicts who don't use money but instead pink slips, mortgages, small businesses and even human trafficking for payment with a lot of murder and hostile takeovers going on.
Michigan gotta beat OSU to get in the playoffs and we all know that aint happening. Hell, Michigan probably isnt beating Rutgers, Oregon, Indiana, and Washington. They're awful and so one sided. Once their defense gets gassed because of their shitty offense, thats when teams start breaking them down into pieces
@@sauceemdj7114tOSU is guaranteed in, and you're crazy if you don't think B1G officials won't be working overtime for Michigan to get the W over Oregon.
Not just the fishy, game changing calls. All the sports coverage is constantly parroting odds and pushing gambling platforms. Gambling can be fun and should be legal, but I’ve watched it ruin peoples lives
@@theskyguy2352 For sure, I see it with a co-worker, constantly gambling on his phone, he'll ne up $900 & end up losing money by the end of the night. He's also married with kids & a very fresh newborn, & sometimes has to borrow money from other co-workers. It's a bit disturbing to watch.
This is a poor example because no outcome would have affected the the line or the over/under. Even if Michigan got a touchdown in garbage time they still wouldn't have covered.
LOL, Try again for this play. The REFS screwed the entire play. One Minnesota player touched the ball before it traveled 10yds, dead ball at that spot. Another Minnesota player was blocking before the ball went 10yds, illegal and the call itself a minnesota player was at the line at the kickoff and close enough the flag was thrown. Michigan should have challenged that Minnesota player touched the ball before travelling 10yds and it should have been Michigan ball at the Minnesota 44yd line... No re-kick!
@@mikeh6754 - If you are an Iowa fan, then you know the refs gifted a game to Minnesota last year with a ridiculous call that took away the winning TD for Iowa.
So does the BS call on fourth and fifteen or the blown hands to the face call in the second half, or the missed holding penalty on Minnesota's last touchdown!! The second half was horrendously called and all flags were thrown by the bimbo!!
I'm not saying he was offsides, sure looked like he wasnt to me, but Minnesota did touch it before it crossed the 45, which, ironically, was a better call for Minnesota. The offsides call gave them another shot at the kick, illegal touching would not have.
The officials threw the flag because Michigan's season will be over with its next loss. Minnesota's not going anywhere. If Michigan runs the table, then it'll get invited to the CFB playoff and the Big10 will make a lot more money than it would if Michigan does not go the playoff. The officials know this and they are not stupid; they're not honest, but they're not stupid either. And it's going to get worse before it gets better.
I've watched it several times in a big screen TV.. and the ball looks like it hit #0 before it went 10 yards.. so it was probably illegal touching anyway (but not offsides).. it should be reviewable
@@kc3481 watch the replay.. Minnesota also started initiating contact and blocking before the ball went 10 yards... by rule that's a penalty too... so either way, it still would be a penalty 💀
Lmfao the official was standing right at the line and had a better angle than the video shows. Minnesota also touched the ball early. If they reviewed it they could have had a 2nd penalty for Minnesota. Learn the rules before commenting
This is the kind of thing that makes you winder why you follow sports at all. Sports is supposed to be an escape from the stress and harsh realities of regular life but when you have to constantly watch stuff like this it just becomes another stress in your life. The refs making obvious wrong calls that everyone can see for the sake of one team that is supposed to win
Sports are seen live, they are inherently stressful you have a side you're rooting for. It's maddening because we're fans, and all fans can do is watch. It's a system built to make us stressed out.
I think the bad refereeing is intentional. It's all for entertainment value similar to WWE to make the matches more unpredictable. It's good for the betting industry.. While other sports(like tennis) are moving towards hawk eye and other technologies, nfl meanwhile is still stuck with the 1900's era chain gangs.🤦♀
Football in particular has gotten so bad over the years. Billions of dollars in these leagues and somehow we don't have perfect review calls that can override the blind refs on the field. But people are so addicted to the tradition they keep watching and just meltdown when the bad reffing impacts their teams. But they keep coming back.
The real problem is the nonstop replays and analysis and speculating and accusing and whining. It used to be that the call was the call and only whiners complained about them. Nowadays everyone's a whiner, and everyone in sports media is catering to them by constantly giving them more stuff to whine about.
It might not have been offsides but they did hit a Michigan player before it went 10 yards and touched the ball before it went 10. So it was a penalty just not the one called.
Watching in real-time, with binoculars from row 28 in the endzone, I also thought it was an illegal touching by a MN player, and thought that's why the flag was thrown. But, tbh, I can't see that in the replay here (it's too grainy and I can't see the ball when I pause). That was a great TD catch by MN and their coach handled the controversy with a lot of class. Also want to see how MN managed to run 5 plays in 24 seconds (just after the 2 min warning), not that it made a difference, or send in the FG unit with 2 seconds on the clock and no time outs on the last play of the first half (yes, the clock stops till the ready-for-play whistle, but should have restarted once the ball was spotted - not after the FG unit was lined up). Not all the Michigan players were on their side of the ball, but since MN substituted, Michigan should have been given time to substitute... and the clock would have run out. Also think that M should have run the ball on the last 3 and 8 (that would have killed almost 40 seconds or MN would have burned a time-out which they used later) and not sure why we were snapping the ball on that drive with 12+ seconds left on the play clock.
That's honestly what I thought the call was having only seen a video. #17 got blasted with the ball 1/2 yd. short of the line was the obvious thing. Pretty clearly got the call wrong but the outcome looks to be correct.
This is the third game where an absolutely horrible call cost a team the game . The same thing happened in the SC LSU game. These officials need to be investigated.
@@deangulberry1876 LMAO, Cryowa fans trying to convince everyone this is the same as last year. Read the damn rule book for once but then again everyone knows an Iowa education is worthless.
Michigan fan here. I actually started pulling for Minnesota in that game. They absolutely did recover that onsides kick. I was rooting for Minnesota so Sharon Moore would be fired. Still hoping for that. Lol
Man I’m getting so sick of this crap. This is the greatest American sport and it’s being ruined in many directions. I can’t believe I’m having thoughts of leaving this garbage behind and stop watching
ESPN has gambling. who owns ESPN? That's right, Disney. The most corrupt evil corporation hiding behind a the fact that they are known for making "kids" movies.
If you reverse the roles, there’s no way they call Michigan for offside, especially at home. The NCAA wants Michigan to win, they’re a bigger and more relevant school.
As a diehard Michigan fan Minnesota got absolutely robbed, I hate that, makes the win feel unearned. I’m happy we won but it didn’t have to be this way.
Oh yeah, "Vegas" wanted to lose on the moneyline on the bet everyone would've taken. Seeing as the spread or the total weren't affected by this call... Michigan is the more marketable team for the ncaa, and fixes like this happened long before you started watching commercials for sportsbooks. You're just not bright enough to have figured it out all these years.
@@prefersoxygen9373 now that would suck lol. I do like the pass interference idea though. If they could review holding then the game would be like 10hrs long 🤣
Look at where his left foot is, then look how far that foot is from the line which is roughly less than the length of his foot, now look at how far his knee is over his foot, and then look at how far he is leaning forward over his knee. Now his helmet is way past his knee given the angle of his body lean forward. You can easily infer he is Definitely offsides. Plus he is quite a bit in front of his teammates. The camera angle we all saw was not right down the line.
Karma - Last year Iowa's Cooper DeJean made possibly the greatest run back ever, for a TD, to win the game. The refs then called it back saying that his hand motion (to his own players to stay back) could have been a fair catch signal, although both teams continued to play. Worst call ever. Don't like to see this happen today to the Gophers, they deserved a chance to win, as did last years Hawkeyes. Refs need to take a chill pill.
In those days a football player often played on both sides of the ball. All American teams were selected on offense, not necessarily on defense. -- The Wistert brothers at Michigan. One of them said, “And if I'm not mistaken I think this is unprecedented in the annals of college football: that three brothers all would go to the same school, all played football. All played tackle, all wore the same number 11, all made All-American. Two of us played on four national championship teams. And all were inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.” Alvin Wistert
Michigan fan here. Minnesota got ASS raped on that call. Minnesota had ALL the momentum to win that game. Combine this call with the refs in the NFL calling a face mask on the Cowboys, but enforcing it against the Giants, and you have the legalized gambling officiating crew showing through. The minute Big Money gets involved in anything, it is rigged toward the rich. So have your little idea that the best team wins. It does not.
Same with the Chiefs getting their calls like in the chiefs falcons game on the no PI call. You can tell it over and over again with the favorites in each sport that will make the most money or lose them the most.
Vegas has nothing to do with this as ALL lines were already decided before the kick. Plus #10 kicked the ball before it gone 10 yards, so please do go on comments and just tell bs. Plus watch the other players on the field as they might have something to do with the game itself. If a person tells you 1+1=2, you will says its a Vegas call as it 2, but a Vegas 2. The rich don't really bet on games as that is why they are guy. Just the regular people bet in hopes of making it rich.
@paulmysliborski4832 Are you just going to ignore the fact the ball hit a Minnesota player before it went 10 yards? Even if you think the play was onsides, it should have been a re kick because of the touching penalty.
I’m confused. (I did not see the game) From your video here that isn’t REMOTELY off sides. Can anyone explain why on Earth the flag was throne? I honestly do not understand.
This is not a good angle. They showed the play from along the line of scrimmage during the game and it was extremely close. I could at least see why the ref thought #49's arm and helmet had broke the plane before the ball moved off the tee.
Hey NCAA! Fix this shit!!! Why no reviewable on this??? Ref who called this BS should be suspended & have his Vegas betting accounts checked!!! So maddening.
Lol it's the ncaa that fixes games like these, not sportsbooks. Michigan is the more marketable team for the ncaa, while sportsbooks were on the hook for the majority of moneyline bets on Michigan...
If that penalty wasn’t called, Minnesota would’ve been penalized for touching the ball before it traveled 10 yards or an illegal block before the ball traveled 10 yards. Sooo, it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. 🤷♂️
Offsides was the wrong call for sure. But the ball was also illegally touched by #0 right before it gets 10 yards downfield, so it shouldn't have counted anyway
For the past 5 years, it’s just been overwhelming. Refs making sketchy subjective borderline calls, at the last moments. What are we doing here? I mean really? Why can’t they stop the game and get it right again? Why?
I played linebacker on Michigan’s 1939 team so I’ve been a lifelong Michigan fan. The Gophers were robbed! I’ve seen countless onside kicks and players on the kicking teams often are offsides by a step or two. It’s never called. That’s what makes this call so bizarre. The Gopher players didn’t look like they were close to being offsides. Go wolverines! I stopped playing football in 1941 when I joined the army to fight the nazis. I served 3 years then went back to play my senior year at michigan. I graduated in 1946. I made the all American team for the 1945-46 season.
@@MovieMakingMan Well, you went 6-2 in '39, not too bad. Had Tom Harmon. I kinda have a grudge against his son Mark, who beat Nebraska when he was at UCLA. Pretty decent actor, though.
@@rappmasterdugg6825 Tom was a great guy. One year I also played basketball with him. What a talented halfback. He was just a regular guy. He knew he was good but was so humble.
This has nothing to do with gambling you clowns. Michigan is more marketable for the ncaa, and fixes like this happened long before you started watching commercials for draftkings. Lol the spread and total weren't even effected by this call either lol.
I was at this game and I didn't know it was such a close call. These replays show that it looks like a clean play and Minnesota should have been given their chance to tie or win. It's a damn shame. Respect to Minn for never giving up and for executing this play perfectly.
It's called the NCAA. Who pays the refs? The NCAA. Yes, Vegas has been involved in games, But the NCAA is the culprit! Mafia types have way more involvement than Vegas
What’s up with the Vegas crap? If the ref didn’t even call it they weren’t going to score. Minnesotas offense wasn’t that fast. I was pissed but the crappy call didn’t do anything but
@@daRealB-Rex ok, i still don’t think that they would’ve been able to but you have a point. I think refs wouldn’t have waited until then to do something. I think the complaining about refs will make all the rules be done by robots and then the game will suck.
Try watching again. The onside kick, a Minnesota player touched the ball before it went ten yards!!! Another Minnesota player was blocking before the ball traveled 10yds, both were penalties not called. The first a dead ball on the spot, Michigan ball
Honestly, they made the wrong call on the on-side kick. They shouldn't have made the call of the guy over the play to rekick, but what they should've made was the gopher getting hit by it when he was 9 yards in. Its hard to see, but that's why the ball got fucking blasted straight forward after that. Got hit by a Gopher player, behind the 10 yards. Which would've gave Michigan the ball anyways.
You all are completely missing the fact that there was illegal blocking on this play, which should have been a 5 yard penalty on Minnesota and given Michigan the dead ball. Kicking team is not allowed to block the opposing team until the ball travels ten yards.
Oh yeah, they threw all their money on the Michigan moneyline? The funny thing about you simpletons blaming legal sportsbooks is that this was actually possible before sports betting was legal. It's impossible to get away with now. Clown
As a Michigan Fan even I thought the call was bs. Of course I want Michigan to win but toward the end I was rooting for Minnesota for a comeback and I don't want any team including mine to win because of bad calls.
It depends on who is playing. Miami lost but call reversed, Michigan could loose with Minnesota FG bad call . It's not coincidence it's who is playing and $$$ lies
Yes thank you. I am not a fan of miami or Virginia Tech, but the last call reversed when a official signaled touchdown on the field and replay doesn't show either way, it's not supposed to ruled reversed.
Just to be clear, in NCAA FBS football, any player other than the kicker is considered offside if they are ahead of the ball or the free kick line when the ball is kicked. This includes hands, feet, or any other part of the body. The referee is looking straight down the line and he determined a player's head or hand to have crossed the line, as no one's foot had crossed. The view of the perspective in the video during the kick is off by 10 yards, thus the parallax does not convey to us the exact location of the off-side player's hand or head. At 0:49 of the video, as the kicker is kicking, a player's hand appears to be crossing the line. The opposite parallax perspective towards the end of the video is less clear. "But it was very close." To say it was not close is not accurate. The referee made an instant judgement call on what he saw and did his job by throwing the flag. Like it or not.
Somewhere theres an ohio state fan alleging that connor stalions in disguise was the ref that made the call 😂 its got to be connor right!? The Stalions era continues....
Multiple penalties on Minnesota during this play not just the one they were called for. Could've been reviewed and they would've been kicking the inside again. Two chances at it and they couldn't do it, let it go.
Good thing is if you stop viewing , you will have nothing to complain about and the rest of us will have less whiny comments to read. So, by all means, stop viewing, bet you won't though.
No one cares that the ball hit his shin right before the ten yards. The ball has to travel ten yards before Minnesota touches the ball for an onside kick. Because Minnesota touched the ball before the ten yards. They interfered with Michigan recovering the ball. The ball is down right on the spot for Michigan. After the 10 yards the ball is live. Even if Minnesota was not offsides. The ball should've been down for Michigan at Minnesota's 44 1/2 yard line. I guess blindness or Bias might have something to do with the disregard of what happened. Minnesota should've executed the onside kick properly. Good attempt. just little mistakes
Your take is correct. I thought at first it was awful. Then I read the rule. They weren't behind the ball and touched it before 10 yards. They got it right actually
This video is so cringe considering minnesota hit the ball pre-10 yds anyway, so the recovery would not have stood and michigan wouldve gotten the ball back automatically instead of a re-kick. ALSO the flag was thrown before the result, and clearly you can see the middle player run earlier than the others which got his hand over the line. This video is cringe af 😂😂😂
Offsides is a call that absolutely should be reviewable or challengeable in 2024. The flag coming out does not impact the play but can absolutely negate an amazing play like this one.
Yeah, between refs determining outcomes of games all the injuries to my teams player's, It's taken the starch outta me with sports. I just don't invest myself as emotionally anymore, and feel 10× better for it.
@@MM-vv8mt I stopped watching all sports about the same time. This popped up in YT so I took a peek. Confirmed my choice to stop watching. Any questions?
I understand what you are saying. I stay i touch with Sports very little. I've watched enough sports in my life, that I don't need to spend Hours a day to know the games.
If you want to get technical, #0 touches the ball for Minnesota before it travels 10 yards -- penalty. And #43 initiates contact with the receiving team before the ball travels 10 yards. 2 penalties are overlooked.
After watching that play, I'll never watch a Michigan game again. Michigan been cheating for years... Even before Connor Stallions. Michigan is making companies and networks money
An inexcusably horrible call that decided the outcome of the game. A perfectly executed onside kick is such a rare thing to see, a bloody shame to see it ruined this way. The official who made the call should be subject to public questioning about it.
Definitely a bad call by the refs but regardless the ball hits a Minnesota player so it would’ve been Michigan ball but inexcusable refs have been horrible this year all around.
The cameras were both positioned at an angle, making it impossible to know from the replay if the player crossed the plane. On the other hand, the official who made the call was standing right on the 35 yd line looking straight down the plane directly at the kicker and player. The players left arm and possibly head broke the plane before the ball was kicked. Another issue is that another Minnesota player touched/kicked the ball before it traveled 10 yards. This call is not reviewable because only the official was in the exact proper position directly on the 35 yd line to make the determination.
1. If the rule of offsides on a kickoff is any part of the body, then yes the guys arm is over the line when the ball is kicked, even though his feet and body are not. 2. It also appears that # 0 for Minnesota is hit by the ball right before the 45 yard line, which again would be a penalty. You can tell that the ball drastically changes its trajectory and it bounces off two Minnesota players.
Michigan alum and season ticket holder here. Fair is fair. This was a terrible call. Minnesota got robbed. The Golden Gophers played their hearts out in the second half. They still may not have tied or won the game but they deserved the recovery spot and the chance to try. Props to P.J. Fleck, his players, and his staff.
As a volleyball official, I tended to think I wasn't doing my job if I didn't call something once in a while, but sometimes, there just wasn't anything to call.
I saw this, and it was sickening! The fact that it followed in the heals of the last play of the Miami -Virginia Tech game the night before seemed to hit me even harder. Stop call phantom crap!
during an onside kick the U and B will call the line like a pane of glass. It does not have to be a foot, it can be a swinging arm or the players head that is over the line...this draws a flag. If we had a view directly down the line it would be easier to tell, however, this looks like 100% the correct call.
Anytime a commentator says "It's close" or "oooh, I don't know." I've found that to be code for "The network gets mad at me when I say it's one way or the other and make the officials look bad when the final ruling doesn't agree with what I just said to the viewers."
I mean, true. But they did have Gene Steratore come on and basically say "yeah bs call" so I guess that's something lol
That type of play/call should be reviewable
Or it could just be close….
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@@mikepalmer1971 It wasn't.
Officiating has gotten so bad. Probably nothing to do with any of the legalized and highly marketed sports betting
This bad call replay is brought to you by Draftkings
What bets were affected by this call?
Of course not
@@joeraguso5376I know right? It’s not like I shoved money under the table to the ref if he made sure Michigan was the outright winner. It’s not like college football has anything to gain if the blue bloods of college football have a better record 😂…. That’s just crazy talk 😳
THIS IS KNOWN AS A VEGAS CALL..
The NCAA is as rigged as anything else. Sometimes Vegas, Sometimes Mafia.
Big Time sports are as fake as MSM
Nope, check the O/U and point spread lines. Not saying it doesn't seem to happen sometimes but not today.
It's not always a vagas call that doesn't mean there isn't underground gambling that has a lot of power and influence.
@@dsanders5142 That would lead to all kinds of theories that COULD BE true. Too much for me to consider or I'd be pissed off of every loss of my home teams I see. Besides if they're so powerful, name me who has more power than mafia owned Vegas?
Undergrounds typically make money the old fashioned way, off of degenerates and gambling addicts who don't use money but instead pink slips, mortgages, small businesses and even human trafficking for payment with a lot of murder and hostile takeovers going on.
line was 10 1/2 total was 44... absolutely nothing to do with this game. Just a pure shit call for no reason
Keep Michigan in the playoffs call. Referee’s have to much control over the outcome….blatant missed calls
And should be able to challenge/ review!!!
Michigan gotta beat OSU to get in the playoffs and we all know that aint happening. Hell, Michigan probably isnt beating Rutgers, Oregon, Indiana, and Washington. They're awful and so one sided. Once their defense gets gassed because of their shitty offense, thats when teams start breaking them down into pieces
playoffs! don't talk about playoffs. michigan is just hoping they can win a game
@@sauceemdj7114tOSU is guaranteed in, and you're crazy if you don't think B1G officials won't be working overtime for Michigan to get the W over Oregon.
Too
Thankfully legalized gambling had absolutely nothing to do with this...
Of course, not at all
Not just the fishy, game changing calls. All the sports coverage is constantly parroting odds and pushing gambling platforms. Gambling can be fun and should be legal, but I’ve watched it ruin peoples lives
@@theskyguy2352 For sure, I see it with a co-worker, constantly gambling on his phone, he'll ne up $900 & end up losing money by the end of the night. He's also married with kids & a very fresh newborn, & sometimes has to borrow money from other co-workers. It's a bit disturbing to watch.
This is a poor example because no outcome would have affected the the line or the over/under. Even if Michigan got a touchdown in garbage time they still wouldn't have covered.
@@theskyguy2352go cry about it
Football is the easiest game to fix, this is just more proof.
NBA and the No Fun League too.
LOL, Try again for this play. The REFS screwed the entire play. One Minnesota player touched the ball before it traveled 10yds, dead ball at that spot. Another Minnesota player was blocking before the ball went 10yds, illegal and the call itself a minnesota player was at the line at the kickoff and close enough the flag was thrown. Michigan should have challenged that Minnesota player touched the ball before travelling 10yds and it should have been Michigan ball at the Minnesota 44yd line... No re-kick!
No it's not, there are too many moving parts.
@@MarvinThiessen MLS... do not forget MLS. The right red card puts a team down a man for the rest of the game.
I'd disagree. You can change an entire soccer/football game with one penalty kick or one red card.
I'm a Michigan fan... that was a BS call. Stuff like this makes me not want to watch college football.
Then dont
As an Iowa fan, Minnesota getting screwed on bogus call is hilarious, it wasn’t a fair catch
@@curtismartin9054 You’re a Michigan fan who is wrong
@@mikeh6754 - If you are an Iowa fan, then you know the refs gifted a game to Minnesota last year with a ridiculous call that took away the winning TD for Iowa.
So does the BS call on fourth and fifteen or the blown hands to the face call in the second half, or the missed holding penalty on Minnesota's last touchdown!! The second half was horrendously called and all flags were thrown by the bimbo!!
I'm not saying he was offsides, sure looked like he wasnt to me, but Minnesota did touch it before it crossed the 45, which, ironically, was a better call for Minnesota. The offsides call gave them another shot at the kick, illegal touching would not have.
this is true
No they didn’t
@@boecker30 no they didnt what?
i don't understand why no one else is mentioning this
We were robbed of the opportunity to see if the Gophers could have pulled off one of the greatest comebacks in Minnesota history.
And Tim Walz sucks!
@@garyshircliff6905 the horses' hose juice
@@garyshircliff6905 Tim Walz is gonna make JD Vance his little bitch on Oct 1. 😆
@@garyshircliff6905 University of Minnesota Sucks TOO! Not just sports.
@@dmc3489 😂
The officials threw the flag because Michigan's season will be over with its next loss. Minnesota's not going anywhere. If Michigan runs the table, then it'll get invited to the CFB playoff and the Big10 will make a lot more money than it would if Michigan does not go the playoff. The officials know this and they are not stupid; they're not honest, but they're not stupid either. And it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Highly unlikely Michigan runs the table. Not with that passing offense. And I’m a fan.
Exactly
Its very clear Michigan isn't any good this year. Doubt they make the playoffs.
@@alexanderryan1176but... They changed the playoff format, now the Top 12 teams make it into the playoffs and Michigan is sitting in the 12 spot
Then why did the refs help out Minnesota last year against a good Iowa team?
With all the cameras and angles, there is no reason for this mistake, the Gophers got screwed on this one.
Money changed hands.
I've watched it several times in a big screen TV.. and the ball looks like it hit #0 before it went 10 yards.. so it was probably illegal touching anyway (but not offsides).. it should be reviewable
Michigan can't cheat anymore, so the refs are doing it for them.
@@tre1sixa big tv doesn’t change the facts that we all saw the same shit. It touches 0 after it went 10 yards
@@kc3481 watch the replay.. Minnesota also started initiating contact and blocking before the ball went 10 yards... by rule that's a penalty too... so either way, it still would be a penalty 💀
Should be reviewable. QB passing at line of scrimmage is reviewable. Crap officiating.
Lmfao the official was standing right at the line and had a better angle than the video shows. Minnesota also touched the ball early. If they reviewed it they could have had a 2nd penalty for Minnesota. Learn the rules before commenting
This is the kind of thing that makes you winder why you follow sports at all. Sports is supposed to be an escape from the stress and harsh realities of regular life but when you have to constantly watch stuff like this it just becomes another stress in your life. The refs making obvious wrong calls that everyone can see for the sake of one team that is supposed to win
Sports are seen live, they are inherently stressful you have a side you're rooting for. It's maddening because we're fans, and all fans can do is watch. It's a system built to make us stressed out.
I think the bad refereeing is intentional. It's all for entertainment value similar to WWE to make the matches more unpredictable. It's good for the betting industry.. While other sports(like tennis) are moving towards hawk eye and other technologies, nfl meanwhile is still stuck with the 1900's era chain gangs.🤦♀
Football in particular has gotten so bad over the years. Billions of dollars in these leagues and somehow we don't have perfect review calls that can override the blind refs on the field. But people are so addicted to the tradition they keep watching and just meltdown when the bad reffing impacts their teams. But they keep coming back.
This sums it up perfectly
The real problem is the nonstop replays and analysis and speculating and accusing and whining. It used to be that the call was the call and only whiners complained about them. Nowadays everyone's a whiner, and everyone in sports media is catering to them by constantly giving them more stuff to whine about.
It might not have been offsides but they did hit a Michigan player before it went 10 yards and touched the ball before it went 10. So it was a penalty just not the one called.
Minnesota player* #0 to be specific
@RickSanchez167 and that would actually be reviewable, and almost surely would have been.
Watching in real-time, with binoculars from row 28 in the endzone, I also thought it was an illegal touching by a MN player, and thought that's why the flag was thrown. But, tbh, I can't see that in the replay here (it's too grainy and I can't see the ball when I pause).
That was a great TD catch by MN and their coach handled the controversy with a lot of class.
Also want to see how MN managed to run 5 plays in 24 seconds (just after the 2 min warning), not that it made a difference, or send in the FG unit with 2 seconds on the clock and no time outs on the last play of the first half (yes, the clock stops till the ready-for-play whistle, but should have restarted once the ball was spotted - not after the FG unit was lined up). Not all the Michigan players were on their side of the ball, but since MN substituted, Michigan should have been given time to substitute... and the clock would have run out.
Also think that M should have run the ball on the last 3 and 8 (that would have killed almost 40 seconds or MN would have burned a time-out which they used later) and not sure why we were snapping the ball on that drive with 12+ seconds left on the play clock.
That's a good point
That's honestly what I thought the call was having only seen a video. #17 got blasted with the ball 1/2 yd. short of the line was the obvious thing.
Pretty clearly got the call wrong but the outcome looks to be correct.
.......conference refs always take care of the higher ranked conference team....
@@carolineurban4920 100%. alabama has gotten that treatment for years
I agree with you.
That was a Las Vegas call. Las Vegas controls all major sports.
Tell me how as other comments stated the O/U, the line of 10.5 and money line was already decided. So the call means nothing...
And that’s a big W
Michigan . That's all you need to know.
Gophers were robbed. A brilliant play thwarted by . . . the official? Wow. Calls like that suck the life out of a game.
people goin to hell fer that one.
This is why I've become a bigger NHL fan. Refs can still make BS calls, but it's not as game changing as in football.
@@curtismartin9054 hockey suks
That refs name and address should be published in Minnesota's local newspaper. Sometimes, you gotta get dirty to get proper results.
@@stkyfngrszmooth al bundy in a homosexual
This is the third game where an absolutely horrible call cost a team the game . The same thing happened in the SC LSU game. These officials need to be investigated.
As a Minnesota sports fan, this outcome is pretty par for the course
As an Iowa fan, I say that the gophers had this coming
@@deangulberry1876 atleast Iowa still had the chance to put their offense on the field
@@RedSightedComing from an Iowa fan, what we put on the field couldn't be classified as "offense".
@@RedSighted Iowa didn’t have an offense last year
@@deangulberry1876 LMAO, Cryowa fans trying to convince everyone this is the same as last year. Read the damn rule book for once but then again everyone knows an Iowa education is worthless.
Michigan fan here. I actually started pulling for Minnesota in that game. They absolutely did recover that onsides kick. I was rooting for Minnesota so Sharon Moore would be fired. Still hoping for that. Lol
Michigan is more marketable than Minnesota
Everyone is acting like rigged games are something new when games have been rigged for decades now.
They need to wake up dude
Next you are going to say pro boxing is rigged? :)
Elections have been rigged for decades also but nobody is talking about that
heh who's acting like it's a new phenomenon?
it was probably much worse in the past even
Everyone? You mean your inner circle? Go outside once in a while.
Man I’m getting so sick of this crap. This is the greatest American sport and it’s being ruined in many directions. I can’t believe I’m having thoughts of leaving this garbage behind and stop watching
Some 19 year old college kid might not get paid $70K to play wide receiver at some school if you do that. I hear ya - it's getting dumb.
It’s time to repent of our sports idolatry.
If it's NOT real, who's going to watch?
INVESTIGATE THEM ALL FOR GAMBLING, OR GAMBLING THROUGH A THIRD PARTY! THIS SCOURGE MUST STOP!
ESPN has gambling. who owns ESPN? That's right, Disney. The most corrupt evil corporation hiding behind a the fact that they are known for making "kids" movies.
What bets would've been won by this call?
Michigan grad. Lifetime Michigan fan. It was an incorrect call. Terrible considering how crucial it was. Minnesota got cheated.
I've been a Michigan fan for 70 years and this call was total BS.
The only reason your program is relevant in the modern era is cheating.
This call was not bs
@@JuwanDunbar-b6u yep you know nothing about football
@@JuwanDunbar-b6u and you know nothing
Appreciate your unbiased.
If you reverse the roles, there’s no way they call Michigan for offside, especially at home. The NCAA wants Michigan to win, they’re a bigger and more relevant school.
As a diehard Michigan fan Minnesota got absolutely robbed, I hate that, makes the win feel unearned. I’m happy we won but it didn’t have to be this way.
VT got hosed too
dude I’m the exact same way. I NEVER feel good after a win if I know we just robbed the other team with a bad call
Your comment shows you are a man of honor ! I feel the same way.
On the NFL side, if only Kansas City fans were like you lol
I'm a Michigan fan as well. There is no defending this call. Ref needs to be investigated.
Refs got an offer from Vegas they couldn't refuse....
Oh yeah, "Vegas" wanted to lose on the moneyline on the bet everyone would've taken. Seeing as the spread or the total weren't affected by this call...
Michigan is the more marketable team for the ncaa, and fixes like this happened long before you started watching commercials for sportsbooks. You're just not bright enough to have figured it out all these years.
@@joeraguso5376 maybe...
We need flags to be reviewable. Maybe each team gets to review like 2 or 3 per half on top of their challenges
In the cfl they can review pass interference and....it does make a good bit of difference.
Everything should be reviewable
@@thecollegeofraeverything? Games will take another hour. Does it include creating a penalty when no flag was thrown too?
@@prefersoxygen9373 now that would suck lol. I do like the pass interference idea though. If they could review holding then the game would be like 10hrs long 🤣
@@prefersoxygen9373 oh god 😅😅
Every review would have a new flag.
Look at where his left foot is, then look how far that foot is from the line which is roughly less than the length of his foot, now look at how far his knee is over his foot, and then look at how far he is leaning forward over his knee. Now his helmet is way past his knee given the angle of his body lean forward. You can easily infer he is Definitely offsides. Plus he is quite a bit in front of his teammates. The camera angle we all saw was not right down the line.
ALL pro and college sports has improved with the times EXCEPT for officiating. I wonder why? Gambling maybe?
This made literally no difference to the spread or total.
Karma - Last year Iowa's Cooper DeJean made possibly the greatest run back ever, for a TD, to win the game. The refs then called it back saying that his hand motion (to his own players to stay back) could have been a fair catch signal, although both teams continued to play. Worst call ever.
Don't like to see this happen today to the Gophers, they deserved a chance to win, as did last years Hawkeyes. Refs need to take a chill pill.
They say karma will get ya 😂😂 finally got those rodents! But this is BS
I see Cooper is off to a quiet start. 6 yards on one punt return. He must have forgot his spastic his isn't a fair catch signal.
It was called an illegal fair catch signal which it was and the officials got it correct
@@dmar28 some people love zebras, more love football
@@leoncarlson4537 let me guess, Gopher can't see out of his hole- CD has been injured
FIX FIX FIX FIX.......
FIX.
Nah Michigan just better
Yup! Lot of riggery now with sports betting
In those days a football player often played on both sides of the ball. All American teams were selected on offense, not necessarily on defense.
-- The Wistert brothers at Michigan. One of them said, “And if I'm not mistaken I think this is unprecedented in the annals of college football: that three brothers all would go to the same school, all played football. All played tackle, all wore the same number 11, all made All-American. Two of us played on four national championship teams. And all were inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.” Alvin Wistert
Michigan fan here. Minnesota got ASS raped on that call. Minnesota had ALL the momentum to win that game.
Combine this call with the refs in the NFL calling a face mask on the Cowboys, but enforcing it against the Giants, and you have the legalized gambling officiating crew showing through.
The minute Big Money gets involved in anything, it is rigged toward the rich. So have your little idea that the best team wins. It does not.
Same with the Chiefs getting their calls like in the chiefs falcons game on the no PI call. You can tell it over and over again with the favorites in each sport that will make the most money or lose them the most.
Connor Stallions is worse than this call and the only reason your team is relevant in the modern era.
Vegas has nothing to do with this as ALL lines were already decided before the kick. Plus #10 kicked the ball before it gone 10 yards, so please do go on comments and just tell bs. Plus watch the other players on the field as they might have something to do with the game itself.
If a person tells you 1+1=2, you will says its a Vegas call as it 2, but a Vegas 2. The rich don't really bet on games as that is why they are guy. Just the regular people bet in hopes of making it rich.
@@scottn.4865 ML was not decided before the kick, so you are dumb af
@paulmysliborski4832
Are you just going to ignore the fact the ball hit a Minnesota player before it went 10 yards? Even if you think the play was onsides, it should have been a re kick because of the touching penalty.
This was definitely a “Michigan has to win” moment
I’m confused. (I did not see the game) From your video here that isn’t REMOTELY off sides. Can anyone explain why on Earth the flag was throne? I honestly do not understand.
The fix was in.
Exactly.
This is not a good angle. They showed the play from along the line of scrimmage during the game and it was extremely close. I could at least see why the ref thought #49's arm and helmet had broke the plane before the ball moved off the tee.
@@PierreRousselot I agree
Are refs rigging the game or are they really mentally challenged losers? I go back and forth I don’t know.
Hey NCAA! Fix this shit!!! Why no reviewable on this??? Ref who called this BS should be suspended & have his Vegas betting accounts checked!!! So maddening.
Lol it's the ncaa that fixes games like these, not sportsbooks. Michigan is the more marketable team for the ncaa, while sportsbooks were on the hook for the majority of moneyline bets on Michigan...
Maddening. Good call! 😅
If that penalty wasn’t called, Minnesota would’ve been penalized for touching the ball before it traveled 10 yards or an illegal block before the ball traveled 10 yards. Sooo, it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. 🤷♂️
Offsides was the wrong call for sure. But the ball was also illegally touched by #0 right before it gets 10 yards downfield, so it shouldn't have counted anyway
For the past 5 years, it’s just been overwhelming. Refs making sketchy subjective borderline calls, at the last moments.
What are we doing here? I mean really? Why can’t they stop the game and get it right again? Why?
The refs blew the call completely! The Minnesota player was NOT offsides on the kickoff!
I played linebacker on Michigan’s 1939 team so I’ve been a lifelong Michigan fan. The Gophers were robbed! I’ve seen countless onside kicks and players on the kicking teams often are offsides by a step or two. It’s never called. That’s what makes this call so bizarre. The Gopher players didn’t look like they were close to being offsides. Go wolverines!
I stopped playing football in 1941 when I joined the army to fight the nazis. I served 3 years then went back to play my senior year at michigan. I graduated in 1946. I made the all American team for the 1945-46 season.
You are 102 years old?
@@rappmasterdugg6825 Will be in January!!! Go Wolverines!
@@MovieMakingMan Well, you went 6-2 in '39, not too bad. Had Tom Harmon. I kinda have a grudge against his son Mark, who beat Nebraska when he was at UCLA. Pretty decent actor, though.
@@rappmasterdugg6825 Tom was a great guy. One year I also played basketball with him. What a talented halfback. He was just a regular guy. He knew he was good but was so humble.
I would bet my stocks, 401k, and other retirement that you are not over 100 years old.
I'm a huge Michigan fan but that was an awful call against Minnesota!!!! How in the heck could a ref call that???? Why???????
Investigate these refs. Sports gambling's rot has spread into the foundation of competition.
nothing is going to change until gambling on sports becomes illegal
This has nothing to do with gambling you clowns. Michigan is more marketable for the ncaa, and fixes like this happened long before you started watching commercials for draftkings. Lol the spread and total weren't even effected by this call either lol.
Investigate Vegas buying of the refs.
A word to the wise, the bookies always win.
What did the bookies win on this one?
I was at this game and I didn't know it was such a close call. These replays show that it looks like a clean play and Minnesota should have been given their chance to tie or win. It's a damn shame. Respect to Minn for never giving up and for executing this play perfectly.
That's not just the announcer. That's THE announcer.
Gus Johnson.
@@GamePro0012 The GOAT>
Well done, Michigan homer refs! I'm sure your Vegas overlords will amply reward you!
It's called the NCAA. Who pays the refs? The NCAA.
Yes, Vegas has been involved in games, But the NCAA is the culprit!
Mafia types have way more involvement than Vegas
What’s up with the Vegas crap? If the ref didn’t even call it they weren’t going to score. Minnesotas offense wasn’t that fast.
I was pissed but the crappy call didn’t do anything but
@@jakeg3126they had enough time to get in field goal range to force overtime
@@daRealB-Rex ok, i still don’t think that they would’ve been able to but you have a point. I think refs wouldn’t have waited until then to do something. I think the complaining about refs will make all the rules be done by robots and then the game will suck.
Minnesota touched the ball early. Learn football
Try watching again. The onside kick, a Minnesota player touched the ball before it went ten yards!!! Another Minnesota player was blocking before the ball traveled 10yds, both were penalties not called. The first a dead ball on the spot, Michigan ball
Honestly, they made the wrong call on the on-side kick. They shouldn't have made the call of the guy over the play to rekick, but what they should've made was the gopher getting hit by it when he was 9 yards in. Its hard to see, but that's why the ball got fucking blasted straight forward after that. Got hit by a Gopher player, behind the 10 yards. Which would've gave Michigan the ball anyways.
This fact doesn't fit the narrative of the mob crying about offsides call, so they'll ignore it.
You all are completely missing the fact that there was illegal blocking on this play, which should have been a 5 yard penalty on Minnesota and given Michigan the dead ball.
Kicking team is not allowed to block the opposing team until the ball travels ten yards.
Even if they got the ball back there’s no guarantee they get the win? And even so the ball was touched early so it wouldn’t have counted regardless?
Me: "Mom can we get some Jomboy?"
Mom: "We have Jomboy at home, sweetie"
Jomboy at home:
This comment needs like 1,000 upvotes lmao
ONCE again.... The refs. BLEW IT!!!! Check the refs bank acct. tomorrow
Oh yeah, they threw all their money on the Michigan moneyline?
The funny thing about you simpletons blaming legal sportsbooks is that this was actually possible before sports betting was legal. It's impossible to get away with now. Clown
As a Michigan Fan even I thought the call was bs. Of course I want Michigan to win but toward the end I was rooting for Minnesota for a comeback and I don't want any team including mine to win because of bad calls.
It depends on who is playing. Miami lost but call reversed, Michigan could loose with Minnesota FG bad call . It's not coincidence it's who is playing and $$$ lies
Yes thank you. I am not a fan of miami or Virginia Tech, but the last call reversed when a official signaled touchdown on the field and replay doesn't show either way, it's not supposed to ruled reversed.
Just to be clear, in NCAA FBS football, any player other than the kicker is considered offside if they are ahead of the ball or the free kick line when the ball is kicked. This includes hands, feet, or any other part of the body. The referee is looking straight down the line and he determined a player's head or hand to have crossed the line, as no one's foot had crossed. The view of the perspective in the video during the kick is off by 10 yards, thus the parallax does not convey to us the exact location of the off-side player's hand or head. At 0:49 of the video, as the kicker is kicking, a player's hand appears to be crossing the line. The opposite parallax perspective towards the end of the video is less clear. "But it was very close." To say it was not close is not accurate. The referee made an instant judgement call on what he saw and did his job by throwing the flag. Like it or not.
Somewhere theres an ohio state fan alleging that connor stalions in disguise was the ref that made the call 😂 its got to be connor right!? The Stalions era continues....
This isnt the own that you thought it was lol
@@demodiums7216 just a joke really not meant to be an "own"
That was a horrific call, but the call in the game between Miami and VT yesterday was even worse if that could even be possible
Great thing Ole Miss lost and Georgia getting smacked this week. This will be forgotten.
@@Andre_Jordan
It will be forgotten because the penalty stopped it. If the play went on and the Gophers won in the Big House, it would be legend.
@@ChitFromChinola I agree it was the wrong call. Who knows what would've happened after they recovered.
Multiple penalties on Minnesota during this play not just the one they were called for. Could've been reviewed and they would've been kicking the inside again. Two chances at it and they couldn't do it, let it go.
Not true. The refs wrecked a great play.
Big Michigan fanboy here. The Gophers were screwed plain and simple.
games rigged Check out the NIU v. Notre Dame game on that 3rd and 1 near the end of the game. So egregious then backed up by review. I'm done.
WTF! the runners knee was down on the 18...how could the ball not be ahead! That call was outrageous!
Good thing is if you stop viewing , you will have nothing to complain about and the rest of us will have less whiny comments to read. So, by all means, stop viewing, bet you won't though.
People who don’t think gambling can influence football games ending, really need to look into the history of boxing
No one cares that the ball hit his shin right before the ten yards. The ball has to travel ten yards before Minnesota touches the ball for an onside kick. Because Minnesota touched the ball before the ten yards. They interfered with Michigan recovering the ball. The ball is down right on the spot for Michigan. After the 10 yards the ball is live. Even if Minnesota was not offsides. The ball should've been down for Michigan at Minnesota's 44 1/2 yard line. I guess blindness or Bias might have something to do with the disregard of what happened. Minnesota should've executed the onside kick properly. Good attempt. just little mistakes
The call was offsides, nothing to do with contact or 10 yds, Michigan sucks as a team and state
Your take is correct. I thought at first it was awful. Then I read the rule. They weren't behind the ball and touched it before 10 yards. They got it right actually
I didnt see the ball touch anyone before ten yards
Moot point. The call was offisdes. The ref got it wrong.
@@Pinckneyrf Lmfao, ok bud. your wrong anyway!!. Use the eyeballs that you were given. Go read the rules!!
Touched the ball before 10 yards and engaged the michigan player too early. Both penalties, both not called.
This video is so cringe considering minnesota hit the ball pre-10 yds anyway, so the recovery would not have stood and michigan wouldve gotten the ball back automatically instead of a re-kick. ALSO the flag was thrown before the result, and clearly you can see the middle player run earlier than the others which got his hand over the line. This video is cringe af 😂😂😂
Offsides is a call that absolutely should be reviewable or challengeable in 2024. The flag coming out does not impact the play but can absolutely negate an amazing play like this one.
All sports are rigged, duh
This is why sports betting shouldn't be involved in college sports 😠
Almost like a fair catch Minnesota?????
As a Michigan fan it was the right call, as a football fan it’s a terrible call
Stopped watching ALL sports 8 years ago and, to this day, never regretted it. WHO CARES!
You, evidently. You say you stopped watching sports 8 years ago, yet here you are,.posting about a sporting event
🤔
Yeah, between refs determining outcomes of games all the injuries to my teams player's, It's taken the starch outta me with sports. I just don't invest myself as emotionally anymore, and feel 10× better for it.
@@MM-vv8mt I stopped watching all sports about the same time. This popped up in YT so I took a peek. Confirmed my choice to stop watching. Any questions?
I understand what you are saying. I stay i touch with Sports very little.
I've watched enough sports in my life, that I don't need to spend Hours a day to know the games.
millions of people.
If you want to get technical, #0 touches the ball for Minnesota before it travels 10 yards -- penalty.
And #43 initiates contact with the receiving team before the ball travels 10 yards. 2 penalties are overlooked.
Tim Walz was the one thing even less popular at this game than this call.
I saw a stack of bread bulging out of an official's pocket... 🤣🤣
After watching that play, I'll never watch a Michigan game again. Michigan been cheating for years... Even before Connor Stallions. Michigan is making companies and networks money
A COMMISSION of Correctness for college football is desperately needed ! Of particular concern, is to REMOVE devious officials .
This should be able to be reviewed. PERIOD
LETS GO RUTGERS!!! 4-0!!! 🪓🪓🪓
An inexcusably horrible call that decided the outcome of the game. A perfectly executed onside kick is such a rare thing to see, a bloody shame to see it ruined this way. The official who made the call should be subject to public questioning about it.
Definitely a bad call by the refs but regardless the ball hits a Minnesota player so it would’ve been Michigan ball but inexcusable refs have been horrible this year all around.
True. It would have been a penalty anyway. They just called the wrong one 😂
The cameras were both positioned at an angle, making it impossible to know from the replay if the player crossed the plane. On the other hand, the official who made the call was standing right on the 35 yd line looking straight down the plane directly at the kicker and player. The players left arm and possibly head broke the plane before the ball was kicked. Another issue is that another Minnesota player touched/kicked the ball before it traveled 10 yards. This call is not reviewable because only the official was in the exact proper position directly on the 35 yd line to make the determination.
1. If the rule of offsides on a kickoff is any part of the body, then yes the guys arm is over the line when the ball is kicked, even though his feet and body are not.
2. It also appears that # 0 for Minnesota is hit by the ball right before the 45 yard line, which again would be a penalty. You can tell that the ball drastically changes its trajectory and it bounces off two Minnesota players.
Wistert died on March 5, 2016, in Grants Pass, Oregon at the age of 95.
You wanted legalized gambling, you got it.
Michigan alum and season ticket holder here. Fair is fair. This was a terrible call. Minnesota got robbed. The Golden Gophers played their hearts out in the second half. They still may not have tied or won the game but they deserved the recovery spot and the chance to try. Props to P.J. Fleck, his players, and his staff.
There is too much money involved not to be rigged. What a joke.
Corruption has America by the throat!! From Texas USA 🤠🧐
If the announcer's sick seeing the horrifically wrong call by the official, you know us fans are more disgusted.
As a volleyball official, I tended to think I wasn't doing my job if I didn't call something once in a while, but sometimes, there just wasn't anything to call.
For people saying it hit 0 on Minnesotas foot. I watched it in slow motion and he jumps up and it doesn’t touch him. The ball never changes direction.
To much money involved in sports and politics for it not to be corrupt at some point in time.
I would be curious to know if the flag came out immediately, or only after the Gophers recovered the kick.
I saw this, and it was sickening! The fact that it followed in the heals of the last play of the Miami -Virginia Tech game the night before seemed to hit me even harder. Stop call phantom crap!
Horrible call. Just like the Cooper DeJean call of last year. Interesting that Minnesota was involved during both calls. 😮
Billions in college football, don’t tell me these refs aren’t being bought
during an onside kick the U and B will call the line like a pane of glass. It does not have to be a foot, it can be a swinging arm or the players head that is over the line...this draws a flag. If we had a view directly down the line it would be easier to tell, however, this looks like 100% the correct call.
Was it reviewed ?