yeah esp seeing it trades blows with the 990 pro in being the best gen 4 drive. Random speeds samsung is a bit faster but pc mag benches program, games and windows load times and the sn850x best the 990 pro across the board. I'd bet it's because the sn850x uses really fast dram cache, it literally uses straight ddr4 3200, while the samsung uses lpddr which has half the memory bus and multiple times worse latency even if it is clocked slightly higher iirc.
The only thing i've ever bought from Verbatim were CDRW and DVDRW. They were fine i guess. Not sure i'm willing to trust them for a NVME drives tough...
I'm assuming it's the name only, and probably using someone else's design. They made some decent quality magnetic and optical discs way back in the day.
I like this kind of side by side review based on use cases. This helps to clarify the options for consumers into something more meaningful. Thanks Two suggestions for review: Kingston Fury Renegade and Corsair MP700.
The two main factors I look for is not just the immediate speeds, but the consistent speeds over time. Does the performance drop off after a while under load, and how much? Also another major factor in my opinion is general failure rate, because a well performing drive is worth nothing if you have a higher risk of files getting corrupted etc. Especially for long term file storage.
@@theTechNotice Agreed. Been running high end Samsung drives for about 7 years now without a single failure thus far. But I wonder how the competition is stacking up these days.
Yup I've had intel, corsair, sabrent and western D nvme drives that have failed at one time or other - I now have over 20 samsung NVME and sata 6g ssd's (over a period of 5 years) with a zero-failure-count 🧐🧐
My dad tells me that for the affordable price, the best is Transcend. Not the fastest, but one of the longest lasting out there on the market. Sure, u might havent heard them since they're havent done that much marketing.
I would also like to see the thermals in these kinds of tests in the future as if such drives are also good for constraint spaces without good airflow such as laptops, handheld, and even consoles.
Best drives but worst endurance unfortunately. Then again I think they both underrate their endurance spec by ~20-30%. At least with the writes of my old 860 evo it should be at 90% endurance but it's still at 93%
A very helpful video, ended up going with a Solidigm P44 pro 1TB for my Custom PC's boot drive and a Samsung 990 Pro 2TB for my project drive. Still haven't decided on which drive I want for my long term storage yet though.
@TRC_WA their sold and shipped by newegg. I bought from them last week and the drive is all good and came with the latest firmware. Registered the warranty on samsung too..
Any noticeable difference actually using programs and not benchmarking tools? So something like PS, davinci video exporting, 3D software rendering, and so on. Would be nice to see some tests on that, also including some budget options to see how big the difference is if any
I use a Corsair force MP600 on my Z390 mb and replaced the stock heatsink with one designed for a gen5 ssd. The benefit to this is most gen3 drives don’t hit the full speed of the of the gen3 m.2 slot but a gen4 drive will while throttling back to maximum gen3 speeds. I also chose it because it can sustain 666 gigs written before slowing down. And with it going slower than advertised because it’s in a gen3 slot and has a gen5 heatsink, I don’t have to worry about it ever slowing down below maximum gen3 speeds.
Currently running WD_BLACK SN850X 2TB as main OS and game drive, and have a external WD_BLACK D30 2TB as game drive. Still waiting for 4TB NVME SSD to be more mainstream then I will add them to my 3 free slots on the ProArt X670E board. 😅
Great Video! I rock a 2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum for my boot/OS, a 2TB Samsung 990 Pro for my games only, a 4TB Samsung 870 Evo for my music files (I produce and write music in FL Studio) and a 4TB Seagate Barracuda SATA HDD for large misc/random files. In my experience I find the SK Hynix P41 Platinum is the fastest especially for boot/OS and this is based on real life usage not on paper.
The key here for video creation is speed yes but also Dram. You have to see how long it takes and watch the meter to see if it slows down when it writes. You do not want that for video editing or recording.
What's your opinion on the Crucial P3 4TB? I find it online in 🇸🇬 for S$340(USD250). My H410 M H V3 only supports PCIE 3 and I want to max out the capacity on the NVME SSD since there's only 1 slot on the motherboard Thanks Edit: Found a TEAMGROUP MP34 4TB for SGD278 (USD 206). Would like your opinion on it too.
Excellent review! You really helped me make up my mind. Thank you so much for the thorough work you put into this. I did notice a small inconsistency, though. At the beginning, you mention four categories: OS Drive/Programs Project Drive Cache Drives Archive/Data You covered all of them except the Cache Drives, which was replaced by 'Best SSD for 2nd Drive.' While it's a minor detail, it's worth noting that cache drives play a crucial role, especially for programs like Photoshop and other applications that rely heavily on caching for optimal performance. Your review was very helpful thank you.
Had Samsung Evo 960 500GB since it's release and it's been working flawlessly since late 2016. Can't see why I shouldn't go with Samsung again I'd take longevity over speed any day of the week.
@theTechNotice I can't thank you enough for all the knowledge on your channel that I've gained by binge watching for the past few weeks Larri. I've learnt so much especially on SSD's. I went ahead and purchased a Samsung 990 PRO 1TB for my O/S drive, a Seagate FIRECUDA 530 4tb & a T-Force Cardea Z440 2TB for my project drives, and finally a Seagate FIRECUDA 530 500GB for cache drive based on your recommendations on your channel. I'm very happy with the performance of all the drives and my workflow is much smoother. I even reused my former O/S drive which was a slower PCIe gen 3 drive to my son's laptop and that thing is much faster now compared to the shitty Toshiba HDD it had previously. Now I'm planning on upgrading my I7-12700k to the I9-13900KS by the end of the year. looking forward to more Creator targeted content from you. keep up the good work my friend/guru. cheers.
Wow man, you come a long way, was pleasnt to watch, you clrearly put a lot of work in making this video and its showing, the amount of reasearch you done, thank you very much its really hard to chose an ssd as of today with all the variables that exsits, and you made it very easy and simple in the video
And while most NVMEs are 22mm wide, be careful with the length. I had a hard time finding a motherboard that could accomodate four 22110 length NVME drives. Many can receive 5-6 drives but only shorter ones, often the 22110 ones would overlap with each other on these or simply wouldn't fit. Z790 Aorus Elite AX does have four 22110 (full length) slots. Cool review, thank you!
Great video. I was taking notes :) and noticed that while you stated 'cache' as one of the categories you would cover, I didn't ever see a drive list, or bar chart on that specific category. Was this an oversight, or perhaps lumped into one the other groups? Seems like a drive that performs better at caching would be used for everyday access and usage. Great presentation and I like your style. Great job.
Should have included wd sn850x… being the top ps5 drive and a best price option at least as of now. $109 for a 2TB.. might be hard to beat. As well as a very popular pick the 970 evo plus.. for gen 3.
Hi, great video as always! Well done! I follow you from Italy and I'm writing with google translator, in this video you talk about a configuration for creator and you say that generally you need 4 different ssds, 1) os drive/programs, 2) Project drive, 4) archive/data drive and 3) cache drive. The latter interests me a lot, I've never considered doing a build with a dedicated cache disk, how do you configure it? what do you put on it? for the chace do you manage it from the bios or from a special program or directly from the editing programs? maybe you already have a video explaining it, otherwise I would really like you to make a video dedicated to this! hello and congratulations again!
I would like to see a comparison of all the results on the same time and maybe the actual price as well. So i would get a feeling for the overall quality of each ssd and the actual price per value. But this video is very helpful without that too :)
I'd love to see the forthcoming PCIe 5.0 M.2's comparisons. I have a 2TB 980 Pro boot and RAID 1 Crucial P3 Plus 4TB. You can have some major changes in the performance once you start filling up these M.2s. So testing at e.g. 33%, 75%, and 85% (full) capacities would be extremely valuable information. _FYI .. as much as I would love Samsung 980 Pro to come in a "4TB" (chart) version, unfortunately it's capped at 2TB._
980/990/850x, etc....Are the big names, and great products....that offer good support. But they are pricey. Last year I decided to try some Fanxiang drives. An S880 (980Pro level) and an S102 (870Evoish) BOth have been excellent for me over the past year, and both have been heavily, heavily used. The s880 trades punches with a 990Pro as to which is fastest in my system. I even put a Fanxiang in my Steam Deck lol. The Lexar 790 is another that I've placed in my laptop as a 2nd drive. It's performance is seriously impressive as well. I still use a 990 or 980 Pro for my "system" drive. But I'd have no qualms putting the Fanxiang or Lexar in as a system drive.
To everyone who still has a Sata Hard drive I implore you to get this NVMe show as a OS drive in this video. You guys will not believe the difference this drive make to general function of your pc, Installing, launching app's or program with little to 0 loading times. NVMe is not restricted by anything except the drive it's self is the only thing that can hold this Boot drive back. When you have "Fast Boot" enabled the time it takes you to put in your lock screen pass code your desk top will already be loaded and waiting. Seriously, it's very very fast Boot device.
Just realized. How come the WD drives are not part of this test? I have 3 SN850s 2x2TB in Raid 0 for projects/games/etc. large files, and 1 TB for OS and Software. I just purchased the SN850X 4TB today from Prime Day. These WD drives are amazing for creators, great scratch disk for Cacheing C4D, AE, and or PR cache. Not sure why it's not even in consideration in these tests?
At the time I bought my 2, 2tb FireCuda 530 drives, they were the fastest around, had really good TBW AND comes with 3yr data rescue included free. That could be a massive win if someone needs their data recovered I got the Cardea z440 2tb I use them as my game drive because of the cost and TBW was massive
Curiously enough, TBW is not an important metric for a game drive. Yes, the files can get very large, but unless you are very frequently installing and uninstalling games (running out of space, which is unlikely), all you will really do is read from the drive, and that doesn't touch the TBW at all. As an example, my game drive is an older Samsung 840 EVO, and the data written so far, after 7+ years, is a paltry 5.9TB. That's 4% from a TBW of 150! Its a rather old SSD, but health wise, its almost as new! Newer games write very large files during installation, but how often do you install new games!? Once a game is installed, the only writing going on, are the save files, so TBW becomes a very non-issue. In fact, i would say the most important metric for a games drive is the Sequential Read, and more importantly, the Random Read.
@@00Resev well, with several online games, along with games I run mods on, there are a LOT of updates being downloaded and installed. I'm up to 40TBW in just a year on my drive, which is also the drive I do editing on and everything else, along with my os drive. I just have one main 2tb Seagate FireCuda 530 and an additional one I clone to once a week
@@00Resev I was just making a comment about TBW. Back when that 840 came out, there was a lot of endurance testing over on the xtremesystems forums. Everyone was curious to see how this newfangled TLC NAND performed. One person tested the 128GB drive to something like 500TB before write amplification and reallocated sectors started popping up. So realistically you're under 1% of actual TBW!! And I believe he started that test with a few TB of static filled space to represent more realistic usage.
It's July 4th 2023 and I've just watched this vid. I've been playing with a couple of different build assistants online and looking at a specific pair of SSD's that I've been favoring in both my "No Hold's Barred/Well... ALMOST" and "Decent Performance but with Restraint" builds. Those drives are the SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 500GB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8P500BW for the boot drive coming in at this time at $71.60, and the MSI M461 M.2 2280 4TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SM461N4TB for major storage which is normally $209.99, currently selling for $179.99, and also has a rebate of $10 available to get it down to $169.99, For a 4TB drive, I say that can't be beat. I'd like to know your thoughts on those. We have major sales available now and for the next few days due to the holiday. And Amazon is having Amazon day within the next week. Not that I am personally planning on spending money... at this time. I'd have to get some REALLY amaze-balls deals to whip out my credit card. Things are really weird right now. Last weekend I saw a 4080 RTX which goes for $1,499.99 available for a coded discount on Newegg for %50 off. If I had a bit more money in my account I'd have built a new machine and gone for it. That discount is no longer available. Prices are all over the board on major components right now and dropping regularly. We live in interesting times.
I grabbed a Firecuda 530 with the heatsink... It doesn't have a pre-installed encryption on it. I intend to encrypt it myself. The drives that states AES256 is inhouse encryption from many of these companies can be hacked into using backend and backdoor methods. The newest Firecuda 530 that was manufactured earlier this year has read and write of 7300 a piece. The guy's Firecuda in the video is an old variant
Great content as always and great comparison review! I'm using this SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 M.2 2280 Up to 7,000MB/S For my Content creation drive. It's preforming well and very fast so far but now after your review I'm wondering if I chose the right drive hah! Perhaps you could test this drive in the future? I'd also be curious how diff drives perform in Adobe Premier or DaVinci Resolve as far as exports go? Are there any big differences? Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
You did well. Hynix owns Solidigm and your P41 Platinum is the same drive as the P44 Pro, same hardware different drivers, which was at the top of most of the tests.
Thank you for this!!!! There is so little content doing SSD reviews! Also with the Solidigm, I've seen from other reviews that the controller can get very hot, which might mean that it's thermal throttling for the consistency test.
I'd be interested is some info about choosing and using an add in NVMe riser card. What slots and lanes to use. How about using lanes from the graphics 16 (using 8 in the seconds slot for NVMe)?
Built mine last Aug with Firecude 530 for all my drives, but thinking if I should upgrade my OS drive 1TB since it’s 80% full to either a 2TB or 4TB. 😅
Team Group has silently change the type of flash in the Z440 (a one time or another) from the 96 layer nand (with the 3600 TBW) to Kioxia 112 layer nand, which would only have a TBW of 1200. I think it's really dirty of these companies to change the components in their drives, without giving it a different model number.
Would you recommend having your program installed on the same hard drive as your project files, eg: Davinci resolve installed on the same hard drive as your video files or Blender on the same drive as your assets (Hopefully this makes sense)... I was planning on having a drive for the OS, documents, and spurious programs, a drive for projects and assets, a drive for games, and a drive for storage... Would this be viable?
Hi I have a Mac mini M1 512GB 16Ram and I run out of storage, could I buy one of this drives and an enclosure and set up this drive as a bootable Mac drive so I can have more storage available ?
How about Crucial and Western Digital? Been seeing them in Amazon while canvassing but I'm not sure if they'll be good options in exchange for more affordable price..
Where is the Teamgroup T-Create Classic PCIe 4.0? It's cheaper than the Z440 with the same R/W speeds, has DRAM and the 2TB model has an endurance rating of 3600 TBW as well.
It would be interesting to see the Oyen Digital Dash Pro 4TB and 8TB tested. I have been unable to find any reviews on this one. I purchased one anyway. Haven't installed it yet. It only has a 3 year warranty but it is 3000 TBW 4TB and 6000 TBW 8TB.
Why are we using the KC3000 4Tb and the Firecuda 530 2TB? If Size matters? So i was thinking alot about SSDs and checked every available source i could find. In the end i would say Samsung 990 Pro, KC3000 and Fircuda where the best Choices for the main drive. I went for the KC3000 4TB and ordert it. I did choose it because ist scored beter in every test here then the Fircuda 530. But the Firecuda may would have been the beter choice by a smal amount because the Lifespan is longer and it still performs rly good and some tests say even better then the KC3000. But i guess KC3000 is still a good choice. If i would be looking for a secondary SSD i would propably buy a Lexar NM790 4Tb. I Way cheaper and would be a a great for Storing Videos with a Great TBW. What do you think?
KC3000 owner is here! So happy with it so far.
Worth the price!
@utub.watcher I threw it away immediately. Thank you.
Is it still worth buying it now? Have you encountered any issues with it?
@@woder2907 still It works great. 3 kc3000 installed my pc. All of them working great.
@@woder2907 i just bought one 4tb
Using the Solidigm P44 Pro for my main OS in my new rig. It's been AMAZING.
The WD Black SN850X line is conspicuously missing here. Otherwise, thanks for the tests and results.
Unfortunately they are often overlooked. I have used them for the past few years and never had a single issue.
WD SN850X
yeah esp seeing it trades blows with the 990 pro in being the best gen 4 drive. Random speeds samsung is a bit faster but pc mag benches program, games and windows load times and the sn850x best the 990 pro across the board. I'd bet it's because the sn850x uses really fast dram cache, it literally uses straight ddr4 3200, while the samsung uses lpddr which has half the memory bus and multiple times worse latency even if it is clocked slightly higher iirc.
lp of lpddr is low power, hence the clocking.
Back in the 80s we would buy discs for our Commodore 64 games, they were 5 1/4” floppy discs from Verbatim. Cool to see them now in the MVME market.
The only thing i've ever bought from Verbatim were CDRW and DVDRW. They were fine i guess.
Not sure i'm willing to trust them for a NVME drives tough...
I'm assuming it's the name only, and probably using someone else's design. They made some decent quality magnetic and optical discs way back in the day.
I like this kind of side by side review based on use cases. This helps to clarify the options for consumers into something more meaningful. Thanks
Two suggestions for review: Kingston Fury Renegade and Corsair MP700.
The two main factors I look for is not just the immediate speeds, but the consistent speeds over time. Does the performance drop off after a while under load, and how much?
Also another major factor in my opinion is general failure rate, because a well performing drive is worth nothing if you have a higher risk of files getting corrupted etc. Especially for long term file storage.
true! Samsung is held rather high regard in the failure rate.
@@theTechNotice Agreed. Been running high end Samsung drives for about 7 years now without a single failure thus far. But I wonder how the competition is stacking up these days.
Yup I've had intel, corsair, sabrent and western D nvme drives that have failed at one time or other - I now have over 20 samsung NVME and sata 6g ssd's (over a period of 5 years) with a zero-failure-count 🧐🧐
My dad tells me that for the affordable price, the best is Transcend. Not the fastest, but one of the longest lasting out there on the market. Sure, u might havent heard them since they're havent done that much marketing.
@@chionyenkwu2253this is good to know thanks! gonna make my first enclosure as a small boot up backup drive.
I would also like to see the thermals in these kinds of tests in the future as if such drives are also good for constraint spaces without good airflow such as laptops, handheld, and even consoles.
Solidigm P44 Pro should be the most power efficient here based on other reviews.
Very curious to see WD SN850X and SK hynix Platinum P41 results!
Solidigm = sk hyinix. The p44 pro and the p41 are the same drive.
@@Frozoken that's interesting but they're priced differently in my country. p44 pro is priced about 50% more than p41 platinum for 1 tb.
The WD_BLACK SN850x is an absolute powerhouse but was left out.
I didn't have any samples :(
The editing to the music in this video! Top notch! Felt like I was watching Masterchef!
I heartily recommend the WD Blacks. Not the cheapest, but they have not failed me so far. I have three in my production machine.
Yes, Samsung and WD are my go-to's for SSDs. But there have been other good ones too.
Best drives but worst endurance unfortunately. Then again I think they both underrate their endurance spec by ~20-30%. At least with the writes of my old 860 evo it should be at 90% endurance but it's still at 93%
Solidigm coming in strong, basically on par with Samsung. Currently have the Firecuda 530. The new 540’s seem insane too.
How is thev530 doing?
I just ordered one and speed / price plus the tbw seemed irresistible lol .
I picked up a couple of Solidigm SSDs myself. 1tb and 2tb. Have a Microcenter near my house in Virginia. Both are P44 Pro
definitely saving this video for later ...and again thanks for giving awesome contents
My pleasure 😊
A very helpful video, ended up going with a Solidigm P44 pro 1TB for my Custom PC's boot drive and a Samsung 990 Pro 2TB for my project drive. Still haven't decided on which drive I want for my long term storage yet though.
i am proud of my 990 pro 2tb
I have the same drive too and is awesome
@TRC_WA I just saw the Samsung 990PRO 1TB drive on NEWEGG for rock bottom price!
Got the SK Hynix P41 Platinum with almost the same speeds as 990 pro for HALF THE PRICE
@TRC_WA their sold and shipped by newegg. I bought from them last week and the drive is all good and came with the latest firmware. Registered the warranty on samsung too..
@TRC_WAgot a couple P44s too, came with a huge mouse pad! Just moved my OS from an Evo+, I can feel the difference (I think).
Any noticeable difference actually using programs and not benchmarking tools? So something like PS, davinci video exporting, 3D software rendering, and so on. Would be nice to see some tests on that, also including some budget options to see how big the difference is if any
Holy Cow, that intro was so smooth! Well deserving of my like and comment!
Hey. Should I get Samsung 990 Pro M.2 4TB for 410€ or Western Digital Black SN850X M.2 4TB for 330€?
I use a Corsair force MP600 on my Z390 mb and replaced the stock heatsink with one designed for a gen5 ssd. The benefit to this is most gen3 drives don’t hit the full speed of the of the gen3 m.2 slot but a gen4 drive will while throttling back to maximum gen3 speeds.
I also chose it because it can sustain 666 gigs written before slowing down. And with it going slower than advertised because it’s in a gen3 slot and has a gen5 heatsink, I don’t have to worry about it ever slowing down below maximum gen3 speeds.
How the heck do you edit videos with a big ol bottle of Moonshine just chillin' in the corner? (@ 5:41) lol!
Lol its water 💧 🤣
Currently running WD_BLACK SN850X 2TB as main OS and game drive, and have a external WD_BLACK D30 2TB as game drive. Still waiting for 4TB NVME SSD to be more mainstream then I will add them to my 3 free slots on the ProArt X670E board. 😅
Great Video! I rock a 2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum for my boot/OS, a 2TB Samsung 990 Pro for my games only, a 4TB Samsung 870 Evo for my music files (I produce and write music in FL Studio) and a 4TB Seagate Barracuda SATA HDD for large misc/random files. In my experience I find the SK Hynix P41 Platinum is the fastest especially for boot/OS and this is based on real life usage not on paper.
The key here for video creation is speed yes but also Dram. You have to see how long it takes and watch the meter to see if it slows down when it writes. You do not want that for video editing or recording.
What's your opinion on the Crucial P3 4TB?
I find it online in 🇸🇬 for S$340(USD250).
My H410 M H V3 only supports PCIE 3 and I want to max out the capacity on the NVME SSD since there's only 1 slot on the motherboard
Thanks
Edit: Found a TEAMGROUP MP34 4TB for SGD278 (USD 206). Would like your opinion on it too.
wd sn850x 4tb should be cheaoer and better
Excellent review! You really helped me make up my mind. Thank you so much for the thorough work you put into this.
I did notice a small inconsistency, though. At the beginning, you mention four categories:
OS Drive/Programs
Project Drive
Cache Drives
Archive/Data
You covered all of them except the Cache Drives, which was replaced by 'Best SSD for 2nd Drive.' While it's a minor detail, it's worth noting that cache drives play a crucial role, especially for programs like Photoshop and other applications that rely heavily on caching for optimal performance.
Your review was very helpful thank you.
Had Samsung Evo 960 500GB since it's release and it's been working flawlessly since late 2016. Can't see why I shouldn't go with Samsung again I'd take longevity over speed any day of the week.
I have the solidign 1tb as my OS drive and the gen4 2TB Samsung 990 Pro as a secondary, great drives,both have been faultless.
@theTechNotice I can't thank you enough for all the knowledge on your channel that I've gained by binge watching for the past few weeks Larri. I've learnt so much especially on SSD's. I went ahead and purchased a Samsung 990 PRO 1TB for my O/S drive, a Seagate FIRECUDA 530 4tb & a T-Force Cardea Z440 2TB for my project drives, and finally a Seagate FIRECUDA 530 500GB for cache drive based on your recommendations on your channel. I'm very happy with the performance of all the drives and my workflow is much smoother. I even reused my former O/S drive which was a slower PCIe gen 3 drive to my son's laptop and that thing is much faster now compared to the shitty Toshiba HDD it had previously. Now I'm planning on upgrading my I7-12700k to the I9-13900KS by the end of the year. looking forward to more Creator targeted content from you. keep up the good work my friend/guru. cheers.
Wow man, you come a long way, was pleasnt to watch, you clrearly put a lot of work in making this video and its showing, the amount of reasearch you done, thank you very much
its really hard to chose an ssd as of today with all the variables that exsits, and you made it very easy and simple in the video
I'm really happy with my Kingston FURY Renegade PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSDs, one 2 TB and another 1TB
And while most NVMEs are 22mm wide, be careful with the length. I had a hard time finding a motherboard that could accomodate four 22110 length NVME drives. Many can receive 5-6 drives but only shorter ones, often the 22110 ones would overlap with each other on these or simply wouldn't fit. Z790 Aorus Elite AX does have four 22110 (full length) slots. Cool review, thank you!
I just ordered a 4tb 990pro because I want to use it also in my next build without buying extra, it will definitely last long
Just got the P44 Pro 2TB for 110$ couldn't be happier
Surprised that the WD SN850X wasn’t tested here.
I didn't have any :)
Great video. I was taking notes :) and noticed that while you stated 'cache' as one of the categories you would cover, I didn't ever see a drive list, or bar chart on that specific category. Was this an oversight, or perhaps lumped into one the other groups? Seems like a drive that performs better at caching would be used for everyday access and usage. Great presentation and I like your style. Great job.
Should have included wd sn850x… being the top ps5 drive and a best price option at least as of now. $109 for a 2TB.. might be hard to beat.
As well as a very popular pick the 970 evo plus.. for gen 3.
best deal for me always 2tb gen4 around 120 euros+... amazing value now i got 3 x2TB on my mother board and it s perfect (WDSN770+samsung 980 pro)
Hi, great video as always! Well done! I follow you from Italy and I'm writing with google translator, in this video you talk about a configuration for creator and you say that generally you need 4 different ssds, 1) os drive/programs, 2) Project drive, 4) archive/data drive and 3) cache drive. The latter interests me a lot, I've never considered doing a build with a dedicated cache disk, how do you configure it? what do you put on it? for the chace do you manage it from the bios or from a special program or directly from the editing programs? maybe you already have a video explaining it, otherwise I would really like you to make a video dedicated to this! hello and congratulations again!
You should add wd sn770 and sn850
Thank you, this saved my day!
Interesting to also compare the WD Black SN770 2Tb
I use it . Check price for gen 4...
I would like to see a comparison of all the results on the same time and maybe the actual price as well. So i would get a feeling for the overall quality of each ssd and the actual price per value. But this video is very helpful without that too :)
I'd love to see the forthcoming PCIe 5.0 M.2's comparisons. I have a 2TB 980 Pro boot and RAID 1 Crucial P3 Plus 4TB. You can have some major changes in the performance once you start filling up these M.2s. So testing at e.g. 33%, 75%, and 85% (full) capacities would be extremely valuable information.
_FYI .. as much as I would love Samsung 980 Pro to come in a "4TB" (chart) version, unfortunately it's capped at 2TB._
TBW chart is badly made.
@@mikakorhonen5715 .. Agreed. 👍
Please add the WD 850x to the mix if possible.
Great Video thank you. I have a MAC Studio M2 running Final Cut Pro. I need a fast reliable 4TB. Would you recommend please?
980/990/850x, etc....Are the big names, and great products....that offer good support. But they are pricey. Last year I decided to try some Fanxiang drives. An S880 (980Pro level) and an S102 (870Evoish) BOth have been excellent for me over the past year, and both have been heavily, heavily used. The s880 trades punches with a 990Pro as to which is fastest in my system. I even put a Fanxiang in my Steam Deck lol. The Lexar 790 is another that I've placed in my laptop as a 2nd drive. It's performance is seriously impressive as well. I still use a 990 or 980 Pro for my "system" drive. But I'd have no qualms putting the Fanxiang or Lexar in as a system drive.
Bro has the best comparison content out there. Must be very happy to use t44 pro
To everyone who still has a Sata Hard drive I implore you to get this NVMe show as a OS drive in this video. You guys will not believe the difference this drive make to general function of your pc, Installing, launching app's or program with little to 0 loading times. NVMe is not restricted by anything except the drive it's self is the only thing that can hold this Boot drive back. When you have "Fast Boot" enabled the time it takes you to put in your lock screen pass code your desk top will already be loaded and waiting. Seriously, it's very very fast Boot device.
true... even basic but solid NVMe gen 3 sneezes circles around SATA, even SSD ones, when used as OS drive.
@@GrimK77 100000000% facts. No bottle necking Sata Cables.
The Crucial T500 and the Lexar NM800 would be nice to see tested against this lineup of drives.
Just realized.
How come the WD drives are not part of this test? I have 3 SN850s 2x2TB in Raid 0 for projects/games/etc. large files, and 1 TB for OS and Software.
I just purchased the SN850X 4TB today from Prime Day. These WD drives are amazing for creators, great scratch disk for Cacheing C4D, AE, and or PR cache. Not sure why it's not even in consideration in these tests?
At the time I bought my 2, 2tb FireCuda 530 drives, they were the fastest around, had really good TBW AND comes with 3yr data rescue included free. That could be a massive win if someone needs their data recovered
I got the Cardea z440 2tb I use them as my game drive because of the cost and TBW was massive
Curiously enough, TBW is not an important metric for a game drive.
Yes, the files can get very large, but unless you are very frequently installing and uninstalling games (running out of space, which is unlikely), all you will really do is read from the drive, and that doesn't touch the TBW at all.
As an example, my game drive is an older Samsung 840 EVO, and the data written so far, after 7+ years, is a paltry 5.9TB. That's 4% from a TBW of 150!
Its a rather old SSD, but health wise, its almost as new!
Newer games write very large files during installation, but how often do you install new games!?
Once a game is installed, the only writing going on, are the save files, so TBW becomes a very non-issue.
In fact, i would say the most important metric for a games drive is the Sequential Read, and more importantly, the Random Read.
@@00Resev well, with several online games, along with games I run mods on, there are a LOT of updates being downloaded and installed. I'm up to 40TBW in just a year on my drive, which is also the drive I do editing on and everything else, along with my os drive. I just have one main 2tb Seagate FireCuda 530 and an additional one I clone to once a week
@@00Resev I was just making a comment about TBW. Back when that 840 came out, there was a lot of endurance testing over on the xtremesystems forums. Everyone was curious to see how this newfangled TLC NAND performed. One person tested the 128GB drive to something like 500TB before write amplification and reallocated sectors started popping up. So realistically you're under 1% of actual TBW!! And I believe he started that test with a few TB of static filled space to represent more realistic usage.
Wow the intro into your videos i amazing!
Why no WD Black? It's also one of the fastest SSDs. I personally switched from Samsung to WD and really would appreciate a comparison.
It's July 4th 2023 and I've just watched this vid. I've been playing with a couple of different build assistants online and looking at a specific pair of SSD's that I've been favoring in both my "No Hold's Barred/Well... ALMOST" and "Decent Performance but with Restraint" builds. Those drives are the SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 500GB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8P500BW for the boot drive coming in at this time at $71.60, and the MSI M461 M.2 2280 4TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SM461N4TB for major storage which is normally $209.99, currently selling for $179.99, and also has a rebate of $10 available to get it down to $169.99, For a 4TB drive, I say that can't be beat. I'd like to know your thoughts on those. We have major sales available now and for the next few days due to the holiday. And Amazon is having Amazon day within the next week. Not that I am personally planning on spending money... at this time. I'd have to get some REALLY amaze-balls deals to whip out my credit card. Things are really weird right now. Last weekend I saw a 4080 RTX which goes for $1,499.99 available for a coded discount on Newegg for %50 off. If I had a bit more money in my account I'd have built a new machine and gone for it. That discount is no longer available. Prices are all over the board on major components right now and dropping regularly. We live in interesting times.
I would like to see a optane (like 900p or P5800x) in the mix.
I already bought kingston fury renegade 2tb, I think it is better then 990 pro in most of the specifications. 😊
I grabbed a Firecuda 530 with the heatsink... It doesn't have a pre-installed encryption on it. I intend to encrypt it myself. The drives that states AES256 is inhouse encryption from many of these companies can be hacked into using backend and backdoor methods. The newest Firecuda 530 that was manufactured earlier this year has read and write of 7300 a piece. The guy's Firecuda in the video is an old variant
@@fightsandfinance7570 don't know about that brother, and youtubers don't go that deep now a days, he also doesn't told us about slc cache capacity.
Thank you for including PC mark 10 test in the video.
Great content as always and great comparison review! I'm using this SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 M.2 2280 Up to 7,000MB/S For my Content creation drive. It's preforming well and very fast so far but now after your review I'm wondering if I chose the right drive hah! Perhaps you could test this drive in the future? I'd also be curious how diff drives perform in Adobe Premier or DaVinci Resolve as far as exports go? Are there any big differences? Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
You did well. Hynix owns Solidigm and your P41 Platinum is the same drive as the P44 Pro, same hardware different drivers, which was at the top of most of the tests.
@@cgsather3309 Ahh I didn't know that, that's awesome ty!
Best m2 ssd list in order in the video:
Samsung 990 pro 1TB = 2,42
KC3000 4TB = 3
Solidigm P44 Pro 1TB = 3,28
Firecuda 530 2TB = 3,71
Cardea A440 1TB = 6
Lexar NM790 2Tb = 6,14
Verbatim Vi7000G 2TB = 6,85
Cardea Z440 1TB = 7,42
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB = 8
Solidigm P41 Plus 1TB = 8,71
Samsung 980 1TB = 10,42
it is the perfect time for this video to come out. Thanks a lot for all your tips about pc parts for the creators!
Thank you for this!!!! There is so little content doing SSD reviews!
Also with the Solidigm, I've seen from other reviews that the controller can get very hot, which might mean that it's thermal throttling for the consistency test.
I am really curious now how a Sabrent drive, for example a rocket 4 plus 1 or 2 TB would perform compared to the ones shown in the video.
Which M.2 SSD is most durable 5-10 years down the line??
I'd be interested is some info about choosing and using an add in NVMe riser card. What slots and lanes to use. How about using lanes from the graphics 16 (using 8 in the seconds slot for NVMe)?
Built mine last Aug with Firecude 530 for all my drives, but thinking if I should upgrade my OS drive 1TB since it’s 80% full to either a 2TB or 4TB. 😅
Were the Solidigm drives ran on their "Fast lane" feature of their driver software or not?
Is Lexar NM790 good for gaming?
GM7000 is good? the price almost same as KC3000 in my country
Thanks for an interesting review. What would you recommend for a cache drive?
Been wait for such a comparison 😋
How's the KC3000 2TB as a Secondary drive for a creator's laptop?
Team Group has silently change the type of flash in the Z440 (a one time or another) from the 96 layer nand (with the 3600 TBW) to Kioxia 112 layer nand, which would only have a TBW of 1200. I think it's really dirty of these companies to change the components in their drives, without giving it a different model number.
I needed this. I recently bought a 980Pro 1TB because it was on sale... ant that it was very popular but I was waiting to understand why.
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I recently got a 980 pro 2TB for $115. Highly recommend getting M.2
Opening song is BA. Cherry Gummy - Dylan Sitts
Please add these on the list your next buying guide video. Sabrent Rocket / Rocket Plus and WD Blue / Black. Thanks!
What would the best SSD configuration be for something like MSFS be?
Do P44 pro 1TB still the best for os than 990 pro 2TB?
Would you recommend having your program installed on the same hard drive as your project files, eg: Davinci resolve installed on the same hard drive as your video files or Blender on the same drive as your assets (Hopefully this makes sense)... I was planning on having a drive for the OS, documents, and spurious programs, a drive for projects and assets, a drive for games, and a drive for storage... Would this be viable?
you plan sounds good! :)
Thank you for this well put viedo. I was hoping to see the WD Black SN850X in this spectrum, but unfortunately I think it was left out.
Outstanding! Thanks for posting this video.
Team Group MP44L 1TB
are good?
Can you test the SSD like WD, crucial, XPG and other such brand ?? Or atleast recommend which are good from them ?
SSD Western Digital Black SN850X ?
does power efficiency matter when im using it for a gaming laptop
Excellent info! Would you be able to run the WD Sn850X 2tb perhaps?
Hi I have a Mac mini M1 512GB 16Ram and I run out of storage, could I buy one of this drives and an enclosure and set up this drive as a bootable Mac drive so I can have more storage available ?
great video, but you can compare the samsung 990 PRO vs WD BLACK SN850x?
Which is best using via USB 3 enclosure?
If I use my rig for gaming also where should I put my games? OS Drive or Cash etc. Especially if I want to record and stream gameplay.
I recently purchased adata 960pro and silicon power ud90. What are you thoughts on that?
How about Crucial and Western Digital? Been seeing them in Amazon while canvassing but I'm not sure if they'll be good options in exchange for more affordable price..
Where is the Teamgroup T-Create Classic PCIe 4.0? It's cheaper than the Z440 with the same R/W speeds, has DRAM and the 2TB model has an endurance rating of 3600 TBW as well.
What do you think about the transcend 250s?
It would be interesting to see the Oyen Digital Dash Pro 4TB and 8TB tested. I have been unable to find any reviews on this one. I purchased one anyway. Haven't installed it yet. It only has a 3 year warranty but it is 3000 TBW 4TB and 6000 TBW 8TB.
Why are we using the KC3000 4Tb and the Firecuda 530 2TB? If Size matters?
So i was thinking alot about SSDs and checked every available source i could find.
In the end i would say Samsung 990 Pro, KC3000 and Fircuda where the best Choices for the main drive.
I went for the KC3000 4TB and ordert it. I did choose it because ist scored beter in every test here then the Fircuda 530.
But the Firecuda may would have been the beter choice by a smal amount because the Lifespan is longer and it still performs rly good and some tests say even better then the KC3000.
But i guess KC3000 is still a good choice.
If i would be looking for a secondary SSD i would propably buy a Lexar NM790 4Tb. I Way cheaper and would be a a great for Storing Videos with a Great TBW.
What do you think?
I am wondering how the Lexar nm800 pro would perform here. Unfortunately it is not in video
Very informative 👏🏼, thank you
You're so welcome!