What? Is SSA Making Error In Sending Out "Non-Medical Review 2-4 Weeks" Letters?

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  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect 7 місяців тому +14

    I agree. If applicants don't prevail on the medical criteria, the process including an additional non-medical portion on the backend is 100% misleading, potentially emotional abuse.

  • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
    @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому +6

    It does sound good, William. Since your notice says expressly that you met the medical. I have not heard from the SSA that they have fixed the other notices, but your seems to say more. In a good way :)

    • @Bill343tj
      @Bill343tj 7 місяців тому +1

      My final review has now moved from my local office to Chicago IL for final review. It has been 6 weeks.

  • @angiehorn9417
    @angiehorn9417 18 днів тому +1

    From what I’ve been seeing EVERYONE is getting the same thing in line as far as the non- medical review. So it obviously does not mean anything other than they aren’t finished and you won’t know until they make the final decision at step 5.

  • @aliaabdullah501
    @aliaabdullah501 5 місяців тому +4

    This literally just happen to me yesterday. I was all excited thinking I was going to get approved for my SSI Disability, only to find out the very next day my claim was denied. I was devastated. I told myself not to get excited about the update because nothing is guaranteed until it is confirmed, but I couldn't help it. I'm just waiting for the denial letter so that I can file an appeal, which is what I expected to happen anyway. It still doesn't make me feel better. However, I'm glad to see this video. I wish I saw before I received the SSA notice. At least I know I'm not the only one this happen to or there is an error going on with SSA.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  5 місяців тому +1

      Oh Alia, I am SO sorry. This is nuts why they keep putting out the language. Even if they said, '"decision has been made, but we are not telling you what it is, b/c the local FO has to send you that letter" - Grrr. I feel your pain.

  • @dandelions907
    @dandelions907 8 місяців тому +5

    On my first denial, when i logged into my ssa online on the progress bar, itll say step 3 medical review, and then on step 4 says seeing if meets non medical requirements, and i thought i was approved aswell. Few weeks later gos to step 5 with denial, i think their progress bar isnt accurate

  • @salvatoreemma
    @salvatoreemma 8 місяців тому +7

    Hi Joy and friends,
    I saw in my ‘field office non-medical review letter’ experience, was that I was indeed medically qualified for SSD by the state agency folks, and that my file had probably landed on a tall pile of other files at the field office waiting for the workers to eventually get to. I called the local office and politely checked up on my status a couple of times. They were nice too. And in due time my SSA account on line posted my approval and monthly amounts in big bold fonts, and the SSD box on the page has the word “Active” in bright green letters. Friends don’t be discouraged. I’m on the side of likely approved if you get the non-medical review letter. They will promptly give you any owed benefits too. Last thing, set up direct deposit right away. Well wishes.

    • @EmbracingLifeinYour40s
      @EmbracingLifeinYour40s 8 місяців тому

      Wow, that’s good for you! Does the ssa website show back payment amounts?? Just curious

    • @salvatoreemma
      @salvatoreemma 8 місяців тому +1

      The back pay I received wasn’t labeled back pay. They put the date you are found disabled and then include that sum in your first payment.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому +4

      That is terrific! I am VERY happy for you. Fingers crossed for everyone else.

  • @christianlemar-v1m
    @christianlemar-v1m 8 місяців тому +4

    So i got a fully favorable via federal judge. After 3 years. Then it went for non medical review/2-4 weeks?. Now this was in one town but i moved right before they started the non medical criteria review for ssi. When i checked ssa wedsite first it showed in step 4 showing city i was living in local ssa office. Then it changed to show new city is reviewing and it showed me a payment summary saying how much im going to get. That its starting on April 1rst and it also showed me 2 seperate deposits i assumed is part of back pay. Now i was excited after seeing all this on ssa site. I logged back in next day and site reverted back to original city information before i moved. No payment summary. Nothing. I called a couple times and reps say they dont see anything. So do u think some glitch allowed me to see what im getting????? Can someone give me their opinion please??

  • @bigd3266
    @bigd3266 8 місяців тому +1

    My case is still in the medical division process for the past four weeks on my dac survivor benefits now it's going into the fifth month I've been on ssi since I was fourteen i don't understand what's going on.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому +1

      Oh, so you are in the standard area of them looking to see if your current and recent medical evidence confirms you are or are not fully disabled anymore. If your functional limitations from your impairments have reduced over the years, that can signal improvement, which can lead to not being fully disabled from all 12000 jobs, but only some. But 4-5 months is not a long time currently, however long it seems when you are living it. Hang in there, and of course never stop being a diligent treater of your conditions.

  • @abrideforchrist4247
    @abrideforchrist4247 8 місяців тому +1

    I was medically approved for SSI but not medically approved for SSDI.
    So they denied me for both

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому

      That sounds like you were non-medically eligible for SSI, (i.e. didn't meet the poorness factor?) and your DLI is in the past?

  • @mickeyrob
    @mickeyrob 8 місяців тому

    I got the notice that they were reviewing non medical a little over a week ago. Today I got a letter asking me to call about direct deposit. Nothing is showing in the benefit letter just yet.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому +1

      That sounds excellent!

    • @mickeyrob
      @mickeyrob 8 місяців тому +1

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurity thank you. I applied a week after my 55th birthday, and had no clue about anything, especially the grid rules. All I know is I was suffering. Fortunately I have a great boss (I only work 9 hours a week) who lets me go home early if need be. I appreciate you doing these videos to help educate us.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому +1

      @@mickeyrob I wish you all the best with improved health, and well wishes all the way around. I am thankful for employers that are flexible with accommodations b/c when they work for all, it is a win-win.

    • @mickeyrob
      @mickeyrob 8 місяців тому +2

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurity small update. I got another letter today. I put my start date as last Feb when I got all of my official diagnoses. They won't go back that far. Only back to Dec 20, the day before my 55th birthday. I guess my "old age" is good for something 😁. Still haven't finished with the non medical part, but I know I make way below SGA. Just hope this helps someone else, like I've been learning. I did all of it on my own, but watching and reading have helped me gain insight.

  • @Bill343tj
    @Bill343tj 8 місяців тому +2

    My 2 to 4 week letter said that i have been medically approved and has an onset date and is going back to the local office for non medical review. Is this the same. Is the letter good or not?

    • @salvatoreemma
      @salvatoreemma 8 місяців тому +4

      Hi, Mr Fritz,
      My “2 to 4 weeks” took almost four months. It just goes to show how back logged the SSA is in certain cities. But there is a light at the end of your tunnel, and I believe your day is gonna happen.

    • @Bill343tj
      @Bill343tj 7 місяців тому

      My final review now has moved from my local office to Chicago IL for non medical review. Still at 90%.

  • @ajmontes4626
    @ajmontes4626 7 місяців тому +1

    I just had that same message sent in the SSA. One day later a denial of application.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  7 місяців тому

      Nuts! Sorry this happened to you.

    • @beautyhunters1727
      @beautyhunters1727 4 місяці тому

      I also had this message for 2 days, then denied. After I was supposed to get an expedited reinstatement, but they made a mistake and did a new claim instead.

  • @sandycrenshaw1666
    @sandycrenshaw1666 8 місяців тому

    I had my ALJ telephone hearing the other day and when the judge asked the VE about mt previous job she said according to the book my job was sedentary but worked as light she then said i could still work answering the hypothetical questions the judge asked. She said no on all the questions my attorney asked except for the extra bathroom breaks she said she already is giving me 6 hiw many more does she need (the VE was rude the whole time)
    So do i disqualify for the grid rules since they labled my previous work as sedentary?? Im 53 yo
    Is the judge going to most likely deny me since the VE said yes to all the judges hypothetical questions??
    Im so heartbroken after the hearing i feel like i didnt present my case very well and there is no do overs

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому +2

      Can't pre-determine what the ALJ will do, unfortunately. If you are denied, if your DLI is in the future after the decision date, you can refile for T2 or if otherwise eligible, can always file for SSI - for what that is worth. Fingers crossed for you Sandy!

  • @kansascreekhuntingcooking8515
    @kansascreekhuntingcooking8515 4 місяці тому

    I just got mine caseworker called me and said she was sending my paperwork to our local office in the state of Kansas which would be Wichita Kansas and my internet social security page tells me it it's there for final review SSI and s SDI or whatever that is. It seems like she wanted to tell me I got to go but she didn't but I felt it what do you think. I did ask her how my medical records were she said I had excellent medical records

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  4 місяці тому

      It sounds positive. I do not think they are allowed, to tell a person that they submitted it as an award, because there are audits after it leaves their hands which could flip it.... but it does suggest she at least submitted it in the positive and most of those hold.

  • @shantazellner852
    @shantazellner852 4 місяці тому +1

    I got denied for SSI , but got a message saying ssa in review

    • @MzMillerG
      @MzMillerG 4 місяці тому

      Same. Any news?

  • @danpoi1319
    @danpoi1319 2 місяці тому +1

    Mine says 15-30 days it also says it is going to the final non-medical review on step 4 mine quit showing a percentage months ago they did a non-medical before why are they doing a second one if you're going to be denied?

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  2 місяці тому

      That is the BIG question - if someone is denied on medical review,there should be no reason for non-medical review, as I see it.

    • @danpoi1319
      @danpoi1319 2 місяці тому

      They deny me and said they did not have enough medical records even though I gave them 12 years worth of records plus another 4 years from another doctor and they said we could not figure out if you are disabled or not@@AllThingsSocialSecurity

    • @danpoi1319
      @danpoi1319 2 місяці тому

      I was deny@@AllThingsSocialSecurity

    • @danpoi1319
      @danpoi1319 2 місяці тому

      I was told that if you make it to step four and five it means you're denied@@AllThingsSocialSecurity

    • @jonsworld5307
      @jonsworld5307 Місяць тому +1

      its a glitch as far as we know and there refusing to fix it think they do it just to mess with people

  • @anniezakaria131
    @anniezakaria131 7 місяців тому

    I just got the message in my portal that a representative in my town is reviewing my appeal to see if I still meet the non medical criteria.. I'm so confused now..

  • @Michelleyoung1717
    @Michelleyoung1717 6 місяців тому

    My case worker said ALL SSDI claims go back to field office for Final review! I’m in Az

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  6 місяців тому +4

      Yes, that is accurate that all go back but NOT for review - only those that WON medical should be going back for non-medical. It is part of the process to double check for any offsets, errors in DLIs, etc. Obviously, no such offset checks can even occur on a non-award case of zero. HOWEVER, even denied claims go back so the office so it can send out the DENIAL letter. So yes, all go back but for different purposes. But not for looking for offsets (you can't offset zero :), fugitive status, etc. The hoopla has been that SSA has, in what most in this field for years would say is a big Boo boo, is telling people, HEY, you have completed medical review, now we have you go through non-medical review. At most what it should say to those denied is, we have completed medical review, you were denied, it is going back to your field office to generate an official denial letter. Again, no point in 1) telling people who lost that internal step, just send them the denial letter and quit the torture and 2) reviewing issues that ONLY apply to people who have prevailed.

    • @northbeach182
      @northbeach182 27 днів тому

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurity has this issue of been resolved/less common? I moved to step 4 today on the website and have a notice that I’m in final review for non-medical. Torn on to feel optimistic or not. 100% p&t also

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  27 днів тому +1

      @@northbeach182 I don't know. Not as of the last month, but hearing what people's notices say may help us figure out if and when SSA fixes this bad messaging.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  27 днів тому +1

      @@northbeach182 Fingers crossed for you!

  • @nessabarker599
    @nessabarker599 7 місяців тому

    Im on step 4 but during my hearing the vocational worker said i could only do 3 jobs which were very light and it included bending climbing and lifting and my lawyer asked about secretarial work vocational worker said nope, so I'm praying I'll be approve soon...finger crossed

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  7 місяців тому

      You are not on step 4 necessarily of sequential eval process - if you got a message from ssa online about a step 4, it is meaningly, internal, and likely has nothing to do with what matter of substance the ALJ is currently considering - he may even have already considered and the decision may be being written as we speak :)
      Being able to do 3 jobs is not good unless it is meaningless due to GRID factors. FIngers crossed.

  • @transportdivision7318
    @transportdivision7318 5 місяців тому

    Im at 90% of the review determination process i was called today by the case worker and was advised it was picked up by the feds for review, still no answer anyway, started out as lung cancer stage 2 had operation and have lasting effects of chemo, memory, nerves, cognitive, few other things, im 10 months out from initial filing i hope it means they approved it!

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  5 місяців тому

      If by caseworker, you mean adjudicator working up the medical side, he/she is the one DOING the federal work on it; sounds perhaps it was a 'quality review' or "audit". As for % of completion, you may have missed THIS: ua-cam.com/video/uqVnmYFymGY/v-deo.html. Good luck!

  • @MrUniqueLee
    @MrUniqueLee 5 місяців тому

    I was told that I was medically approved by DDS. It’s in non medical. I have worked up to the onset date per social security. Is that all they are looking for ssdi? I had 40 credits when I applied for reconsideration.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  5 місяців тому +2

      It does not matter when you worked up to with the exception of SGA work - that must have ended by onset or be deemed a UWA. Yes, they probably do double check credits... as well as any possible offsets due to back benefits or forward benefits. You sound to be in good shape.

    • @MrUniqueLee
      @MrUniqueLee 5 місяців тому

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurity Thank you for your quick response. Have a Happy 4th. ❤

  • @manuelblevins4711
    @manuelblevins4711 7 місяців тому +1

    Got the 2 to 4 week non medical review letter , then got denial letter 3 weeks later !!!! Im 3+ years in , and regret whole process !!!

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  7 місяців тому +1

      Very sorry to hear! You are still on Recon (or Initial) after 3 years?

    • @manuelblevins4711
      @manuelblevins4711 7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks , please don't be sorry , just was adding my 2 cents so maby someone else doesn't get false hope ! This will be my 3rd denial !

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  7 місяців тому +1

      Is your DLI expired???

    • @manuelblevins4711
      @manuelblevins4711 7 місяців тому +1

      I think "DLI is in 2025

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  7 місяців тому +1

      @@manuelblevins4711 That is good. If you can work a min level of PT you can extend that out, just stay under SGA. Are you under 50?

  • @byron2521
    @byron2521 5 місяців тому

    Just got a letter from them saying I was approved for medical, but my non-medical was not denied, but still in review. I'm single, only work part-time, etc. So, not really worried. Just think it is red tape. Called the 1-800 number, they said my case had been determined, call your local office.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  5 місяців тому

      ya, just double checking your not a fleeing felon fugitive, lol. They are not allowed to be paid evne if found disabled ;) Or if you have offsets, etc.

  • @tyro_bey
    @tyro_bey 5 місяців тому

    Hi this is what I can see from the online status account reapplied June 4th 2024. Any opinions?
    Nationally, it takes an average of 200 to 230 days for a complete decision. In Louisiana, the average decision takes 353 days. These timeframes are estimates for reference.
    We have processed 6% of your application.
    A representative in MONROE LOUISIANA started a final review of your application on September 15, 2021. For most people, this review takes 15 to 30 days.

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  5 місяців тому

      Actually I see reference to 2024 and 2021.

    • @tyro_bey
      @tyro_bey 5 місяців тому

      Is this normal? I thought it was kinda odd the whole message of status was to me doing my research I have never seen.

    • @tyro_bey
      @tyro_bey 5 місяців тому

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurityis it true attorneys have access to the back office to see step by step and can average out time frame of application?

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  5 місяців тому

      @@tyro_bey 200% NOT true, lol. Where did you hear that, Tyro? Can you link it?

    • @tyro_bey
      @tyro_bey 5 місяців тому

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurity I was told by a attorney at Morgan and Morgan at a time I was represented by the time frame was accurate, maybe bigger the machine more access it has. But are familiar with the message from the online account I posted?

  • @lorijones5047
    @lorijones5047 4 місяці тому

    Today online I’m on step 4 of 5 June 30 2014 😮

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  4 місяці тому

      It doesn't tell you much, time wise, except perhaps that you didn't prevail at step 3 - but most who get awarded don't get it at Step 3. Good luck Lori!

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  4 місяці тому +1

      2014? or was that a typo? lol

    • @lorijones5047
      @lorijones5047 4 місяці тому

      @@AllThingsSocialSecurityno I’m on step4 of 5 from 2014

  • @justwastingtime-g6w
    @justwastingtime-g6w 3 місяці тому

    Yikes..

  • @libertatem_aut_mori_conatur
    @libertatem_aut_mori_conatur 8 місяців тому +1

    I just found out my BIC has been XXX-XX-XXXXA, C1, DI. but my first one, what i see, the glitch it was HA. so i havent gotten a dime from it and ive been a XXX-XX-XXXXDC, XXX-XX-XXXXA,C1,DI. And that I'm a dependent of the wage earner ...

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  8 місяців тому

      A - Primary, C1-Child, D1-aged widower, DC divorced surviving spouse over 60. What is HA?
      resdac.org/sites/datadocumentation.resdac.org/files/Current%20Beneficiary%20Identification%20Code%20Code%20Table%20MBSF%20ABCD.txt
      Remember, we can be eligible under various programs, but we cannever get two total amounts. We can only get the largest amount, and if needed due to family maxes and others' eligibilities taking from one pot, get that amount to us by getting little portions of our total from the various eligible workers under whom we are a dependent (for SS purposes).

    • @libertatem_aut_mori_conatur
      @libertatem_aut_mori_conatur 8 місяців тому

      @AllThingsSocialSecurity same as A. I was a DC disabled child in survivors benefits and disabled till 18 got SGA (54 credits) then illness can't back 13 years ago I never knew why it said I her paid the second Wednesday of the month, but it was always the third instead, and I saw my ssn with those on the end. In yhr verification letters XXX-XX-XXXXA, C1, DI. but my alj didn't know that at my cdr now I'm at appeals I didn't see DI in that list I saw it on the SSI list as A = wage earner, C1 = minor child, and DI = SSI disabled benefits

  • @WilliamShade-i6i
    @WilliamShade-i6i 3 місяці тому

    I just got the message for non medical review

    • @AllThingsSocialSecurity
      @AllThingsSocialSecurity  3 місяці тому +1

      Hi William, allow me to introduce your to my friend, his name is "grain of salt" -- Let's keep our fingers crossed that you are an award!