As someone who was molested as a child I get her music and what she was talking I'd consider Fiona a acquired taste but if you have experienced that kind of childhood trauma Sullen Girl hits different I always got her which is why to this day I'm a fan
I agree. In the USA ( I live in the USA, so, that's my environment) people toss the word "crazy" around far too much. When a guy describes a woman he has been in a relationship with or is currently with, as *CRAZY* what he is saying is that he was hurting her & she reacted. He fails to take responsibility for his actions & pushes it off on her. So transparent.
Well stated. She’s gifted, and a musical genius in her own right. Crazy is relative. We are all batshit in our own special way. She did, manage to channel it in such an incrediblle way. Fell in love with her out of the gate. Her lyrics, melody, all of it. Yeah, she’s cute as hell and yeah I have a thing for short, petite, elfin women. Reality is, it’s probably because of her. Whatever the case is the woman/girl has always made the most incredible music and I’m thankful for it. For her.
what infuriates me is that if she were a man she'd be even more talked about and known and praised, yet i've seen her as the butt of jokes on tv when her music is genuinely incredible. she writes about emotions incredibly in a way i've never seen anyone do it, i love her
By characterizing serious, emotionally intricate, and intelligent women as less, it is assumed that the women’s personal power is then co-opted and reduced. It’s a sad and long-standing truth.
@@antiheroines-you-love It has gotten better, not perfect but better. And music of all kinds but especially that sad emotion filled music by artist like Fiona Apple helped
I’ve loved Fiona apple since I was in middle school, I was also a sad kid, I’d grown up in a messy situation and had to take care of myself in many ways, I was too mature and could barely connect with my peers. She was one of the first people that seemed to feel the same things I did
“How can I ask anybody to love me when all I do is beg to be left alone?” Is still one of my favourite lyrics ever. Fiona is a genius and an absolute visionary. Her and Grimes are two of my favourite artists.
The thing I love about Fiona Apple is how authentic and intensely vulnerable she is. Nothing's fake with her, what you see is what you get. She has a unique way of articulating her inner turmoil that's equal parts poetic and relatable, and that sets her apart from most of her peers. Sometimes her honesty can almost feel unnerving because it's so raw and unfiltered: we're used to seeing women have to censor themselves in their art to be accepted and understood. But Fiona chose to do things on her own terms and that's why her music so captivating and powerful.
I think many women can relate to her experiences and her reactions to those experiences, and it’s painful how the media punished her for this normal behaviour. Because when you are young, mentally ill, and a woman in this society of course you’d have made mistakes like hers, I know I have, but she went through all of that in the spotlight, and that made everything much worse. That’s why I think what she’s accomplished is incredibly valuable, because we’re all struggling, but as an artist she’s shared her feelings with us and helped us feel less alone and understood through her craft.
I hope we are beginning to realize that much of what is perceived as anti-social behavior, has -- as a root cause -- extreme sensitivity. Often, we interpret the actions of others on too superficial a level. Almost always, "problem" behaviors have neurological differences, trauma wounds, and other, deeply hidden and camouflaged, precursors. As with so many things, informed compassion can do miracles.
When I was reading/watching Fiona's interviews and people often times asked her about what she did during her breaks and hiatuses, I really liked how she was trying to normalise just "staying home and spending time with my dog" narrative and tell them not to view it as something sad/abnormal.
@@antiheroines-you-love Thank you for your reply. Yes -- we do need to nurture ourselves with time away from hustle culture. Time spent with pets, enjoying nature, slowing the f down.... all of this isn't sad or abnormal. And, even if it were, the way to heal sadness is to feel it fully, listen to its messages, etc. & allow it to dissipate naturally. Thank you for your channel. We need to value our antiheroines now more than ever!🦹♀️
Thank you for your insight, this spoke to me, and is something I've been trying to reconcile with internally for some time now. Running around in psychological circles trying to figure out what is "wrong" with me. Your words have provided a kind of clarity that feels safe to lean into. Thank you.
Well put, Susan. These last few years, I've come to feel that much of what we were taught growing up was completely upside down. Rather than being the quiet, introspective homebody, antisocial people are often the loud ones. They completely lack sensitivity and they are very superficial. They're also afraid of being found out so they constantly lash out and accuse people like Fiona of being "antisocial." We saw so much of that in the '90s.
i'm a 15 year old girl who suffers from different mental illnesses and i'm constantly being told i'm 'crazy', 'hysterical' and 'hypersensitive', so Fiona is truly an inspiration to me. she went through so many shit and still made amazing art. i love her
It is hard to be young. Emotions come preloaded. Experience and wisdom do not. Emotions can be your own worst enemy. Don’t let them kick your ass! It gets easier as you get older. Hang in there!
I’m a straight cis hispanic male, not really her demographic. But as someone who’s mentally i’ll and had relationship troubles, Fiona Apple is that woman who gets it. The perfect angst, frustration, sadness, confidence. I love her
@@vulnicuraaa many Gen X men have big love for Fiona, Tori, Sarah, L7, Hole (despite Courtney), Garbage and Shirley, Babes in Toyland, PJ Harvey, etc. Many of the white, middle to upper class men of my generation were first wave feminists (I say that in the most complimentary way)! They loved the chicks with a lot of soul, badass attitude, intellect, artsy, and girl next door cute. They loved Fiona.
I LOVE HER. fionna, alanis, kurt, eddie, scott, chris, layne, thom...etc. etc. WE WERE ALL A BUNCH OF OVERLY SENSITIVE FREAKS AND WE WERE PERFECT. What a magical era:(
I know everyone has the cliche of "our generation was fortunate " but truly, I struggled so much emotionally, I knew I was different from those around me, I experienced a lot of trauma, and was raised by people who didn't understand me and having their music really did save me.
@@kristalcampbell3650 I'm definitely fortunate enough to have grown up in the 80s and 90s and call women like Fiona, Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Sarah Mclachlan as my heroes. It was a special time for female singer-songwriters that I don't think will ever happen again.
that that other woman called herself a "comedian" is the only thing laughable that she ever said. this doc is sweet, it's clearly done by someone who really likes Fiona as hard as we all do. thanks for this, the internet got richer after this ^^,
I think Fiona is still pretty underrated as an artist. It's not as easy as people think to own your pain and turn it into something beautiful like that.
Fiona Apple has saved my life so many times, I also feel things far too deeply and her music at times is the only thing that understands me, she’s perfectly imperfectly, powerfully sensitive, honest without faltering. After I came to grips with my own assault and no longer denied it happened, she released FTBC and without that album I don’t think I would be here. And she’s right, it becomes such a boring pain
Fiona Apple was a complete badass. She was calling out the sexualization of young women in Hollywood way before a lot of the current hyped up artists from that time. She got blacklisted a lot because of it as well. I've always loved Fiona ever since she first came out when I was in high school.
So many other amazing artists are considered 'sad girls' and dismissed immediately because of it. I think Fiona Apple shows that this might be something fem artists go through, but it doesn't have to define your legacy. Really really cool
People keep confusing sensitivity with fragility. It's true that women are more sensitive than men, but sensitivity is the ability to experience life at a deeper level. It is to be highly attuned to the subtleties around you, the shifts in energy, the subtle cues of someone's body language, the frequencies of sound, all of which enables the woman to have something akin to a spiritual experience when doing simple things like listening to a song or feeling the air brush against her. It's a quality that is needed in women, too. Since they are the ones tasked with bringing humans into this world. She has to be able to understand the convoluted experience of the fragile newborn, there is no language involved. Consciousness literally forms inside the body of the woman. Sensitivity comes naturally to her. Conversely, men are more fragile than women. Both biologically and mentally. From the Y chromosome itself, to the man's lifespan and his ability to cope with stress. He's more prone to birth defects, degenerative diseases, his physical and mental development is slower, and his lifespan is shorter. His amygdala is larger, and his brain's ability to regulate emotion is weaker, therefore making him more prone to emotional instability. This all puts it into perspective how damaging the patriarchal view of masculinity is, they are forced to deny all of these facts or else they're deemed a failure. Truly, the ones who need the most affection and attention are men. They shouldn't be blamed for it because that would be irrational, but that is what being fragile entails.
I was a teen when she had that speech on MTV Video Awards. She got a lot of backlash for it and I NEVER understood the hate. I saw her intention. I didn't even see it as performative like what people do these days. Some people just lacked the EQ to get it.
Fiona has grown so much as a person (and an artist) throughout the years. Fetch The Bolt Cutters, The Idler Wheel and When The Pawn are all distinct, idiosyncratic, incisive masterpieces/borderline masterpieces (though Extraordinary Machine is also really, really good). She deserves all the love and acclaim she gets now, especially with how she was treated when she first entered the industry.
@@hugitkissitloveit8640 I certainly don’t dislike Extraordinary Machine. It’s a very good album with some of her best songs. I just don’t find it as distinct and singular as Fetch, Idler, When The Pawn. It lacks the crazed, bewildering energy and diverse storytelling of ‘Fetch’. It lacks the lyricism and wit of ‘Idler’. It lacks the grooves and hooks of When the Pawn. I really like EM. I just consider those three her holy trinity. Tidal is the only album of hers I’d refer to anything less than really, really good.
She’s so relatable in every way I love how real and raw she is she doesn’t make her emotions easy to swallow she wants you to choke the way she does and I love that she’s so unapologetic about it
Always heard Fiona apples name floating around on my tumblr dashboard and listened to a few of her singles, but it still wasn’t totally clicking why she was so revered. Now after watching this video, the songs I’ve heard by Fiona I see in a deeper way knowing her story and how the media gave her such a hard time. Now I’m just eager to dig into her whole discography bc she seems like a very unique and genuine artist that laid the groundwork for a lot of young female artists today.
I discovered Fiona when I was 13 through a friend. Her vulnerability and the way she was able to express herself immediately resonated with me. I think my brain actually rewired itself around her tbh. I'd gone through so much in those thirteen years and felt so isolated. I found comfort when I heard someone speak about the things that I could not possibly say out loud. The lyrics of Sullen Girl and Pale September made me understand that emotion isn't on a plain beyond language and that I'm not alone. Fiona will always be the greatest musician of all time in my eyes and I owe her so much.
It's really insane how women artists are judged so extremely. You can say, well, this was the 90's and she was just ahead of her time, but look at Billie Eilish. Everyone is obsessed with her body, calling her fat or ridiculing her baggy clothes, then going mad when one time she dressed more "sexy" for a magazine cover. Billie reminds me a lot of Fiona. Both their lyrics are just so raw and full of meaning. Both are extremely young and have been thrust into stardom so quickly that yes, they're bound to make mistakes but it's not just on them, there are producers, directors, stylists, all these people that are leading them into a decision but are nowhere around when they come under fire for that decision. It's only them left standing, holding the bag like that whole music video or magazine cover was on them alone. Like they both aren't literally CHILDREN listening to the adults around them and assuming they know what they are doing.
Fiona's means as much to me as probably any other artist I've ever listened. The relationship that have with her lyrics. There's so many songs that she's made that has helped me through difficult times.
This was so well put together! I listened to fetch the bolt cutters a lot but never went through her entire catalogue. Would love to see more deep dives like this
I seriously love this channel I love how it is covering over the portion of the 90s that everyone seems to forget. We had so many women from different directions back then. We had Lilith Fair. We had women who had a voice from Tori to Lauryn Hill to Missy Elliot to Jewel. I wish we would remember this more.
i barely found out about fiona apple through “i want you to love me” & didn’t know much about her. i feel so connected to her after this video. sensitivity & vulnerability in women are so scrutinized, but are such beautiful gifts when we chose to share them. “when you know yourself you know life” really hit me because she’s right. when we are in tune with ourselves, it is easier to be in tune with others. will be listening to more of her discography! thx for this video 😸
Watched this when i had no idea who Fiona Apple was, now 3 months later i can say she is one of my favourite artists. The way she writes and uses the piano to showcase her grief in Sullen girl is truly poetry. Thanks for making me discover her!
I can relate.. it hurts so much to be this kind of person. When it’s good, there are no words for how wonderful it is.. but when it’s bad.. there are no words.
This was my "it" girl for along time when I was younger. I relate to her life experience through her music a lot .. probably for completely diff reasons but her songs have always spoken to me.
the lyric is about a man. but like even if it was about eating disorders it'd be a good representation of the mindset of someone with an ed because of a relationship gone terribly wrong. I think the only people who got offended by it are healthy people tbh.🤷♀️
Wow, let's say how amazing this video is. Thank u fo much for this and blessed be ur heart. Fiona Apple is such an unique, bold, sensitive, powerful, exceptional and all of the others great adjectives you can put on artist. She is one of the finest and most talented singer, songwriter, poet of all time. I'm so glad she got to release FTBC on 2020, so the new generation could know and learn more about her. She really shows us that sensitivity can be a strong quality and a great tool to navegate in this fucked up world. Love her so much and all of her catalogue.
i love fiona apple. she is a fucking genius and so ahead of our time. her music is raw, passionate and full of emotion, and being someone who feels deeply, i really relate to her songs. i admire her vulnerability and confidence and she will forever be one of my favorite artists.
I grew up in an abusive household and was a part of a religious cult in the middle of rural America. I dealt with a lot of pain and injustice and Fiona Apple's music was quite literally a lifeline for me in that dark time. When Fiona's Extraordinary Machine album came out, I secretly watched her perform 'Get Him Back' on Craig Ferguson's Late Late Show with the TV on low, while my family was in another room. I had never heard music quite like hers or heard an artist speak so honestly about herself, and I set out to buy her album to hear more. When I went to Hastings and found a discount sticker on her 'When the Pawn' album; I bought that instead because I didn't have a lot of money. When I got the CD home and put it in the player in my room (wearing headphones so no one could overhear) I was immediately hit by the 1st track, 'On the Bound', a very dark, intense, and deeply introspective song. Nearly every song on this darkly beautiful album struck a chord with my painful life experience. I had a lot of sadness, misery, righteous anger, and a fragile inner life that was hidden away from prying eyes, and I could hear these same feelings in this extraordinary woman's voice, lyrics, and music. Fiona's music communicated my muddled and murky thoughts and feelings right back to me, giving my hurt and confusion a clear voice and direction. I felt heard and empowered by her music and words and I bought all of Fiona's albums after listening to that first album. I felt a secret connection to her as an artist and I found a way to watch her music videos and interviews at the computers in the small public library in my town. My connection and curiosity about Fiona Apple and her music also prepared me in a way to leave my unhappy household and cult community. It was very difficult, but Fiona's music, in part, helped me articulate my feelings of hurt, anger, and outrage at how I was treated and affirmed to me that what I was experiencing was wrong and that I deserved better. Her work made me emboldened to look inward and write more in my journals about what I was experiencing. I became a stronger writer and I felt more confident in expressing myself, if only on the inside in my private world. Since that dark time, I've come a long way in life; I live in freedom from my past, I have a decent job, I graduated college, and I live in relative peace with my siblings who also escaped years ago. I am deeply grateful to Fiona Apple for her work as an artist and I still listen to her albums when I am feeling introspective or going through another set of challenges. When I was taking a road trip by myself a few years ago, I listened to the 'When the Pawn' album again in it's totality. I cried a little bit as I drove, but those were tears of release, not pain. The fifteen year old girl who first heard Fiona Apple in secret is now mostly at peace and the woman who has moved on in her journey to heal can now look back at this time with compassion and grateful splendor. 🕯❤🩹
“Sullen Girl” is a song I frequently go to. I struggle connecting my life from before and after I was assaulted. I don’t really like spending time with people that knew me before because I feel so different from that person. But then I meet new people and think, “I wish you could’ve met me before.” The reserve that overcomes you when you experience an intense life changing trauma. It’s like a version of you is trapped inside of you, but at the same time you don’t want that version of you back. “But it’s calm under the waves in the blue of my oblivion.”
I really enjoyed your video I adore Fiona Apple so much Tidal was the soundtrack of my teenage years it got me through my battle with anxiety, depression, & sh. Now that I’m 20 years old I still listen to her music on a daily basis it made me okay to be vulnerable and to express my feelings in a healthy manner. Keep up the good work btw🙌🏾💗
I grew up listening to her in the 90's. She is the embodiment of the 90's (there many incredible artists who did the same), but Fiona Apple was the artist who I really felt connected to. The words in her music spoke to me during a time where I was in a bad place. She's helped me through a lot.
Fiona has always been one of my favorite artists. I lived a lot of traumatizing experiences when I was younger and relate to so much of her work… I’m also hyper sensitive so it’s nice to see a woman be so inspiring while never losing that sensitive side of her.
I really liked this deep dive into her work, I got into her music years ago and never get tired of re-reading her lyrics while growing up. 23:03 "I read that when ropes get frayed at sea, you can repair the frayed ends of the ropes with whipping cords that are very strong. This goes right back to the parenting thing - if I had a kid, and I had a choice between teaching somebody how to avoid trouble, or teaching them how to get out of it, I'd teach them how to get out of it." I think that's the best thing you could teach to a kid. I was taught to avoid trouble and mistakes and it's really difficult to unlearn. I have this expectation (now from myself and when i was younger from my mom) to always be perfect at first try, and when I mess something up it feels like the biggest failure in the world. It doesn't matter if I can fix it or get better, the fact that I made the mistake in the first place is more important, and it's reason to judge myself harshly. I can see and try to change this kind of minset now, but in a situation of trouble what has been ingrained in me still prevails, you know? You can't easily undo what has been taught to you since day 1.
That's like a perfectionist struggle grappling with their mistakes. Id say were taught to do the right thing first, not make a choice and then ask for forgiveness.
I've always wondered if Fiona was on the autism spectrum. As someone on the spectrum myself, I've always really identified with Fiona and her personality. It's possible that she was misdiagnosed as a child since it's a lot more difficult for autistic girls to get a diagnosis, especially when Fiona was growing up.
I was just wondering this, too. I'm 46 now, and only figured out I'm autistic a couple of years ago after a lifetime of wondering what the hell is wrong with me. I also wonder if we are (mis)diagnosed with mental illnesses because there is money to be made pushing pills. I have become hugely mistrustful of the "professionals".
I love your channel!! And as a profound Fiona Apple fan, I really appreciated this video! I've always found it weird how people were purposely trying to misunderstand her and twist her art although she explained and justified herself multiple times, probably feeling guilty although she did nothing wrong. But in a way she also paved the way for all "Miss Understoods" (Artists, especially feminine-presenting who've had similar experiences of scrutiny and criticism based on ignorant misinterpretation, often layered with misogyny as well).
Yeah, you want to believe that nowadays situations like this don't happen but women who write "love/breakup songs" are still criticized and not taken seriously (e.g. the recent is Olivia Rodrigo)
@@antiheroines-you-love A lot of things I agree in this video and a lot that I don't. Fiona Apple didn't magically exist in a bubble of a disapproving world. As someone who was there during the 90s at the height of her fame, this video misses a lot of the context and doesn't seem to not understand that Fiona Apple came into the music industry at the height of the Lilith Fair movement which was a movement of young and talented female singer-songwriters like Tori Amos, Bjork, PJ Harvey, Jewel, Sarah Mclachlan, Poe, Kristin Hersh and bands like L7, the Breeders, Veruca Salt -- all of them putting out the same emotionally-driven and raw music to an audience that were ready and willing to accept that kind of music. Apple's music was mainstream just like Tori's or Bjork's. Women like Fiona were the norm in the 90s rather than the exception. But as the music industry moved from indie and alternative music to pop, came the embrace of vacuous artists such as the ones we have today. The indie and alternative movement was really the zeitgeist that defined my generation.
This video is amazing. Fiona is the reason I am who I am, why I feel so comfortable in my life, skin, and experiences. Why I don’t feel crazy for the way I react, live, and talk. I found her when I was only 12, now, 10 years later, she is still everything to me. Thank you for making this video ❤️
Fiona is a musical genius - not to romanticize mental health - I have struggled for years with CPTSD and ADHD - but its as if her brilliance couldn't be contained by her human brain. I was considered a "gifted child" - while simultaneously being considered a "problem child" due to a Narcissistic parent - which sounds like what perhaps Fiona was dealing with - its its own special hell. Great mini - doc. Really digging your taste!
This woman right here… is a Queen. Love Fiona Apple. I discovered her in 9th grade and she has affected me so deeply ever since. Her authenticity, willingness to be vulnerable, and all around genius is so captivating and hits me every time. I felt so seen as a girl who has always felt things deeply God, I love her so much!
I just love her so much. I was blessed to see her live when Tidal came out. I was in 7th grade. I was blown away by the fire I felt, coming from her performance. I have been a top fan for life. She is handsdown the best female songwriter of my time.
Fiona’s voice and words have been my constant companion for the past 25 years. I can’t express the depth of my gratitude to her for being a light in my heart that always carried me through hardship.
Grew up to my mom always listening to her. My mom was my age now in the 90s grunge era. Super cool to learn more about Fiona, inspiring how young she transformed her pain into art.
Clearly to a specific group of people, we who found her music a source of support. Someone who spoke what we felt. Personally I think I know the entire first album back to front still, but Sullen Girl helped me through my own personal story. Many nights that album was the only thing that I could hold on to.
She’s never made a bad album and she’s one of the best singer songwriters of all time. She helped paved the way for a lot of female artists today. Being sensitive is not a weakness but your strongest virtue that helps you experience life. And most important of all - not having your shit together is OK
This is such a well made video! I’ve been listening to Fiona Apple since I was little but it was only recently that I got the urge to start learning about her as a person, so I’m glad that such a well-researched video popped up on my recommended! keep up the good work
fiona is a genius and your channel is amazing. I'm gonna be 21 this year and most of my life i was modeling myself after men i found inspirational, mostly musicians. I've had an absent and alcoholic father and no strong male figures in my life, so all throughout my teenage years i was trying to find that male support i lacked in other ways. now though in my young adulthood im discovering more of my feminine side and who i am as a woman. artists like fiona help me in that mission as well as your channel. it helps reflecting on what is womanhood. so thank you for that. women are awesome.
Fiona Apple, Lana del rey, Melanie Martinez, Mitski and so many “alternative sad girls” are so underrated! i love the messages they bring through their music
@@m1yauh well that is embarrassing... No tea no shade but lana is an industry plan lmao and she isn't nor an amazing vocalist, performer nor songwriter. So what about it rlly...
I love Fiona Apple, she's an unique and really mature artists. I feel sorry for how she was treated in the past, but I am glad that she finally got through it and more people is understanding and empathizing with her music. Thank you for this video! The content, script and edition are amazing 😍🤯!
I love that you did this for her. As a consummate optimist, I love listening to her songs to experience comfort in those sad moments that hit us all. And I can break down the part of being optimistic that's truly a facade. She's feel-good music for those who almost never feel good, and it's greatness.
I’m sensitive but I’m struggling to embrace it. Everyone around me tells me it’s a flaw, but I want to be authentically myself now. Thanks for vidéos like this
Fiona’s music is the kind that I listen to with headphones, alone, to reach how I’m really feeling through music. But honestly, right now I want to leave a huge comment complimenting how she made her career and audience around the world grow out of speaking the truth :). From how I see her, Fiona is many things, as everybody is. but what got permanently stamped in my head is the fact that she kept all of herself in the true world, not in the illusion of “flawless is perfect and it should be rewarded”. What I mean is, it became a custom that if you’re popular because you’re showing your talent, you ought to look as good and as beautiful as your and other people’s talent is. That’s a fake reality. So fake that famous people even started faking their talent, so that it looks as good as someone else’s. Everybody knows all of this, but more than half of everybody still goes with it. Fiona is in the 25% of the ppl who say “that’s bullshit, that looks fake on the outside and becomes broken in the inside.” Thankyou Fiona
Thank you for this video. I had to pause to cry when I was affirmed what she meant by "fetch the bolt cutters", & the story behind how she came up with that phrase is so wonderful. Fetch the bolt cutters, we're doing this ourselves, we're helping each other *ourselves*, we can do this, we can fight back. I feel so empathized with in her music & lyrics, I just thank her for being vulnerable & sharing that part of her with the world. She never deserved the cruelty & shallowness in response to expressing herself like that 🌸
Love Fiona and thank you for creating this video and doing her justice. She's both earthy and ethereal to me. She's been gifted with the emotional perceptiveness to express more tangibly what many of us experience through life and grow/wisen up together with her.
I love that she's an artist that is for acknowledging the land they preform on when artists go on tour + educating about tribes that lived on those territories
I just love Fiona Apple so much. She's so apologetically authentic in the way she communicates her struggles through her music and I just find it so comforting. I think what I love about her music so much is that it doesn't romanticize any of the subject matter - it conveys how truly dark these emotions and obsessions are. Her music is just so extremely relatable and she deserved so much better
I never had a role model in my childhood or when I was a teen but when I discovered her last year she became one. I really admire and adore Fiona and her music. Thank you for such a detailed insight into her career. 💕
this was very well made and helped me understand who she is and what she's done, i didn't grow up listening to her and i came across "fast as you can" randomly and really liked it. this video helped me understand her impact and her influence contextually and was very pleasing to watch too. good work!
I discovered her four years ago now, as an 18 year old... no artist ever struck me lyrically and musically as hard as she did; I had never been in a relationship before, still I could empathize with every single emotion she was conveying in her songs. Her music made me see things in me [as a person and as a musician] that no other artist could ever accomplish with their music. And to top it all off, she is excelent at writing chord progressions; undoubtedly, she'll be my favourite till the day I die
I adore fiona apple. As a musician, as a person, as a creative, she is so inspiring. I truly look up to her. She never took anyones shit, always stayed true to herself.
This takes me back. I was in the free fiona group and witnessed all the planning. And we were so stoked when each song was leaked one by one. I was too young to go to NYC for the protest but it was a very exciting time.
fiona apple is such a relatable person. so relatable and so normal. such a normal person. she is just a normal person. i have always liked fiona apple. i have always had a lot of respect for fiona. a lot of respect for her. me and fiona are virgos. fiona is a virgo. we're both virgos. me and her have a lot in common,we share some commonalaties and there are some differences between us.
im not a woman (i think) but i feel so uplifted by the quote in heavy balloon i resently feel very stuck in place, but her words and knowing that someone that felt suicidal can move on and have hope again just made my day
I’ve been listening to Fiona Apple since I was a kid. My mom and dad love her music and so I grew up listening to her. I’ve started getting back into her on my own and now that I’ve learned more about her outside of her music makes me appreciate her music much more. I very much relate to her music. I love her so much and hope she puts out another album sometime soon (maybe like in 2030)
Fiona Apple has always been my top female artist. She always seemed to put into words exactly what I was feeling. I started listening to her when I was around 12. Still listen to her today at 40. I’ve always said I am a “Sullen Girl” and now knowing why she wrote that. It makes me relate to it on a much deeper level. My first sexual experience was a SA & I always thought it was what made me such a weird, awkward person… The Child Is Gone, another one that always spoke to my soul/pain… I could honestly go on forever about Fiona and what her music means to me. Loved this video!
Oh my goodness. Any video where i can listen to Fiona Apple talk about her innermost thoughts and feelings is such a treat. She's like brain food to me. i bought her first album with my allowance when i was 12. "Tidal" was one of the first albums that i bought for myself and i loved it right away. Actually, i knew it was a perfect album after seeing the video for "Never Is A Promise", and that's when i decided that i was going to buy the album. Fiona is one of my cherished musical heroes. i actually own every album of hers except for "Fetch The Bolt Cutters". i just haven't had a chance to bond with that album and the tracks that were released didn't pull me in enough to want to hear more. i have never experienced that with any of her albums before. Usually, i blindly buy the album without a single regret.
I’ve lost my sense of hope and hearing her declare hope at the end was a little shimmer of light on my healing. Thanks for this. Fiona is , and will always be, one of my favourites. ❤
I didn't get to really start listening to her until I was in my 30's when I started to really depending drinking. She would explain things in ways I wish I could especially being in my what felt like an internal prison. Depressed, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, hating myself and at times hating others. But I came off as put together and was a fully functioning alcoholic. Everything felt like facade and opening up felt impossible. I'll be 42 next month, 5 years sober in April, getting help with therapy and medication after finally opening up to my family about my mental health. It's hard work but I'm getting there and Fiona really opened my eyes to a lot of it. Absolutely amazing artist and just a beautiful soul. Great job on the video and keep it up.
Her songs got me through the lowest points of my life and the darkest relationships, she is definitely not neurotypical. I relate to her so much in the way my default mode is empty, i feel nothing most of the time but not the good kind, and when i do feel it’s either so very good or so bad. wouldn’t be shocked if she was also on the ASD spectrum, as girls often go undiagnosed due to how well we learn to mask and the way we’re socialized. i highly recommend paper bag & fast as you can, “When the pawn hits the conflicts he thinks like a king What he knows throws the blows when he goes to the fight And he'll win the whole thing 'fore he enters the ring There's no body to batter when your mind is your might So when you go solo, you hold your own hand And remember that depth is the greatest of heights And if you know where you stand, then you know where to land And if you fall it won't matter, cuz you'll know that you're right” is one of my absolute favorites ;)
“She is definitely not neurotypical” well you don’t know her personally and aren’t her doctor so you have no reason to say ‘definitely’ about that at all.
Damn, if she were a man she’d be painted as genius and a visionary, which she is. She was painted as crazy instead.
As someone who was molested as a child I get her music and what she was talking I'd consider Fiona a acquired taste but if you have experienced that kind of childhood trauma Sullen Girl hits different I always got her which is why to this day I'm a fan
I agree. In the USA ( I live in the USA, so, that's my environment) people toss the word "crazy" around far too much.
When a guy describes a woman he has been in a relationship with or is currently with, as *CRAZY* what he is saying is that he was hurting her & she reacted. He fails to take responsibility for his actions & pushes it off on her. So transparent.
Very well said!
Right? It's so messed up how that happened to these young women. She is so talented.
Well stated. She’s gifted, and a musical genius in her own right. Crazy is relative. We are all batshit in our own special way. She did, manage to channel it in such an incrediblle way. Fell in love with her out of the gate. Her lyrics, melody, all of it. Yeah, she’s cute as hell and yeah I have a thing for short, petite, elfin women. Reality is, it’s probably because of her. Whatever the case is the woman/girl has always made the most incredible music and I’m thankful for it. For her.
it's really mind-boggling, how the public reacts to serious, emotionally intricate, intelligent women...
what infuriates me is that if she were a man she'd be even more talked about and known and praised, yet i've seen her as the butt of jokes on tv when her music is genuinely incredible. she writes about emotions incredibly in a way i've never seen anyone do it, i love her
We reacted to her the same way we react to self-important, try-hard men
@@pukeachu someone pls tell me where all the misogynistic trolls are coming from
@@bugsinthewalls Saudi Arabia, most likely
By characterizing serious, emotionally intricate, and intelligent women as less, it is assumed that the women’s personal power is then co-opted and reduced. It’s a sad and long-standing truth.
I adore Fiona Apple. She just speaks to a sad sensitivity in my own life that i can relate to growing up as just a sad child.
I hope you're not as sad anymore 🌼 but I like how you described it as a "sad sensitivity"
@@antiheroines-you-love It has gotten better, not perfect but better. And music of all kinds but especially that sad emotion filled music by artist like Fiona Apple helped
I’ve loved Fiona apple since I was in middle school, I was also a sad kid, I’d grown up in a messy situation and had to take care of myself in many ways, I was too mature and could barely connect with my peers. She was one of the first people that seemed to feel the same things I did
As a fellow sad kid I can relate deeply to this and Fiona's music. She's a treasure
Thank God for people like her standing up for hyper sensitive people
“How can I ask anybody to love me when all I do is beg to be left alone?” Is still one of my favourite lyrics ever. Fiona is a genius and an absolute visionary. Her and Grimes are two of my favourite artists.
Song?😊
@@mamaru3300 left alone, from the idler wheel album :)
@@ivyeorii thanks
apples and oranges.
and then you have no idea how to fix the problem you’ve caused.
The thing I love about Fiona Apple is how authentic and intensely vulnerable she is. Nothing's fake with her, what you see is what you get. She has a unique way of articulating her inner turmoil that's equal parts poetic and relatable, and that sets her apart from most of her peers. Sometimes her honesty can almost feel unnerving because it's so raw and unfiltered: we're used to seeing women have to censor themselves in their art to be accepted and understood. But Fiona chose to do things on her own terms and that's why her music so captivating and powerful.
@Follow the Bear no one said. it’s just society makes women have these rules they have to follow. so therefore, fiona apple kind of breaks the mold
“he said ‘it’s all in your head’, i said ‘so’s everything,’ but he didn’t get it.” like damn. such good writing
I think many women can relate to her experiences and her reactions to those experiences, and it’s painful how the media punished her for this normal behaviour. Because when you are young, mentally ill, and a woman in this society of course you’d have made mistakes like hers, I know I have, but she went through all of that in the spotlight, and that made everything much worse.
That’s why I think what she’s accomplished is incredibly valuable, because we’re all struggling, but as an artist she’s shared her feelings with us and helped us feel less alone and understood through her craft.
beautifully said✨
I hope we are beginning to realize that much of what is perceived as anti-social behavior, has -- as a root cause -- extreme sensitivity. Often, we interpret the actions of others on too superficial a level. Almost always, "problem" behaviors have neurological differences, trauma wounds, and other, deeply hidden and camouflaged, precursors.
As with so many things, informed compassion can do miracles.
When I was reading/watching Fiona's interviews and people often times asked her about what she did during her breaks and hiatuses, I really liked how she was trying to normalise just "staying home and spending time with my dog" narrative and tell them not to view it as something sad/abnormal.
@@antiheroines-you-love Thank you for your reply. Yes -- we do need to nurture ourselves with time away from hustle culture. Time spent with pets, enjoying nature, slowing the f down.... all of this isn't sad or abnormal.
And, even if it were, the way to heal sadness is to feel it fully, listen to its messages, etc. & allow it to dissipate naturally.
Thank you for your channel. We need to value our antiheroines now more than ever!🦹♀️
Thank you for your insight, this spoke to me, and is something I've been trying to reconcile with internally for some time now. Running around in psychological circles trying to figure out what is "wrong" with me. Your words have provided a kind of clarity that feels safe to lean into. Thank you.
Well put, Susan. These last few years, I've come to feel that much of what we were taught growing up was completely upside down. Rather than being the quiet, introspective homebody, antisocial people are often the loud ones. They completely lack sensitivity and they are very superficial. They're also afraid of being found out so they constantly lash out and accuse people like Fiona of being "antisocial." We saw so much of that in the '90s.
That was lovely and beautifully put Susan
The media was so abusive. I understand why she sort of went away. They were ridiculous
She was ahead of the game calling out the abuses in the system before the Me Too movement.
i'm a 15 year old girl who suffers from different mental illnesses and i'm constantly being told i'm 'crazy', 'hysterical' and 'hypersensitive', so Fiona is truly an inspiration to me. she went through so many shit and still made amazing art. i love her
i’m sorry you had to receive those comments. it’s horrible being misunderstood but you should know that you are in no way ‘crazy’ or ‘hysterical’
It is hard to be young. Emotions come preloaded. Experience and wisdom do not. Emotions can be your own worst enemy. Don’t let them kick your ass! It gets easier as you get older. Hang in there!
You are just not numb like everyone else
Bad romance Sweetheart you are not crazy do not listen to those people!
Hope you're getting help. I kept my problems to myself and it made things worse. School is hard for ones with highly attuned senses.
I’m a straight cis hispanic male, not really her demographic. But as someone who’s mentally i’ll and had relationship troubles, Fiona Apple is that woman who gets it. The perfect angst, frustration, sadness, confidence. I love her
Who said you're not her demographic? Did she say that?
@@bruno_schumann the stereo type for someone who likes music similar to fiona is usually a woman or a gay man lol
@@vulnicuraaa im a straight 225 lb guy that likes Fiona.
@@te9591 and thats cool! But when someone pictures a fiona apple fan they usually picture a feminine person :)
@@vulnicuraaa many Gen X men have big love for Fiona, Tori, Sarah, L7, Hole (despite Courtney), Garbage and Shirley, Babes in Toyland, PJ Harvey, etc. Many of the white, middle to upper class men of my generation were first wave feminists (I say that in the most complimentary way)! They loved the chicks with a lot of soul, badass attitude, intellect, artsy, and girl next door cute. They loved Fiona.
she was too ahead of her time in the 90s with her vulnerability and honesty. and they were terrified of her unapologetically embracing it.
Sensitivity is rough but goddamn it you have to be sensitive to be an artist. Its a gift.
I LOVE HER. fionna, alanis, kurt, eddie, scott, chris, layne, thom...etc. etc. WE WERE ALL A BUNCH OF OVERLY SENSITIVE FREAKS AND WE WERE PERFECT. What a magical era:(
I know everyone has the cliche of "our generation was fortunate " but truly, I struggled so much emotionally, I knew I was different from those around me, I experienced a lot of trauma, and was raised by people who didn't understand me and having their music really did save me.
@@kristalcampbell3650 I'm definitely fortunate enough to have grown up in the 80s and 90s and call women like Fiona, Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Sarah Mclachlan as my heroes. It was a special time for female singer-songwriters that I don't think will ever happen again.
that that other woman called herself a "comedian" is the only thing laughable that she ever said.
this doc is sweet, it's clearly done by someone who really likes Fiona as hard as we all do. thanks for this, the internet got richer after this ^^,
It's Garafolo, what do you expect...
I still think she has one of the most soft, feminine, beautiful faces I’ve ever seen. And what an artist!
She's gorgeous. She reminds me a lot of Angelina Jolie
Yes but definitely in her dark feminine energy she is a goddess
I think Fiona is still pretty underrated as an artist. It's not as easy as people think to own your pain and turn it into something beautiful like that.
This!!!!
Fiona Apple has saved my life so many times, I also feel things far too deeply and her music at times is the only thing that understands me, she’s perfectly imperfectly, powerfully sensitive, honest without faltering. After I came to grips with my own assault and no longer denied it happened, she released FTBC and without that album I don’t think I would be here. And she’s right, it becomes such a boring pain
I'm glad you're here
You should check out Adrienne Lenker! Very similar energy :)
im so glad you're here love
Fiona Apple taught me to be unapologetically vulnerable and to stand my ground through her music and for that I am forever grateful
Fiona Apple was a complete badass. She was calling out the sexualization of young women in Hollywood way before a lot of the current hyped up artists from that time. She got blacklisted a lot because of it as well. I've always loved Fiona ever since she first came out when I was in high school.
Fiona feels like a big sister. Like I don't know her but she just is so strong and uplifting while keeping the necessary realism
So many other amazing artists are considered 'sad girls' and dismissed immediately because of it. I think Fiona Apple shows that this might be something fem artists go through, but it doesn't have to define your legacy. Really really cool
People keep confusing sensitivity with fragility. It's true that women are more sensitive than men, but sensitivity is the ability to experience life at a deeper level. It is to be highly attuned to the subtleties around you, the shifts in energy, the subtle cues of someone's body language, the frequencies of sound, all of which enables the woman to have something akin to a spiritual experience when doing simple things like listening to a song or feeling the air brush against her. It's a quality that is needed in women, too. Since they are the ones tasked with bringing humans into this world. She has to be able to understand the convoluted experience of the fragile newborn, there is no language involved. Consciousness literally forms inside the body of the woman. Sensitivity comes naturally to her.
Conversely, men are more fragile than women. Both biologically and mentally. From the Y chromosome itself, to the man's lifespan and his ability to cope with stress. He's more prone to birth defects, degenerative diseases, his physical and mental development is slower, and his lifespan is shorter. His amygdala is larger, and his brain's ability to regulate emotion is weaker, therefore making him more prone to emotional instability. This all puts it into perspective how damaging the patriarchal view of masculinity is, they are forced to deny all of these facts or else they're deemed a failure. Truly, the ones who need the most affection and attention are men. They shouldn't be blamed for it because that would be irrational, but that is what being fragile entails.
Well put! Good stuff 👍🏽
Thank you for your perspective. Very interesting insights.
wow beautifully put
Too many thoughts on your words to put into writing, so ❤️❤️❤️
@@SaddleInTheRain this exactly
I was a teen when she had that speech on MTV Video Awards. She got a lot of backlash for it and I NEVER understood the hate. I saw her intention. I didn't even see it as performative like what people do these days.
Some people just lacked the EQ to get it.
words cannot describe how grateful I am that this woman exists and has gifted us by sharing her work omfg
Fiona has grown so much as a person (and an artist) throughout the years. Fetch The Bolt Cutters, The Idler Wheel and When The Pawn are all distinct, idiosyncratic, incisive masterpieces/borderline masterpieces (though Extraordinary Machine is also really, really good). She deserves all the love and acclaim she gets now, especially with how she was treated when she first entered the industry.
True true
why is extraordinary machine saved for a parenthetical side note?
@@SOCKS_RABBIT extraordinary machine is my favourite 🤷🏻♀️whilst fetch the bolt cutters is my least 🙈
@@hugitkissitloveit8640 that’s interesting!! extraordinary machine is definitely my fave…idk if I can name a least fave though!
@@hugitkissitloveit8640 I certainly don’t dislike Extraordinary Machine. It’s a very good album with some of her best songs. I just don’t find it as distinct and singular as Fetch, Idler, When The Pawn. It lacks the crazed, bewildering energy and diverse storytelling of ‘Fetch’. It lacks the lyricism and wit of ‘Idler’. It lacks the grooves and hooks of When the Pawn. I really like EM. I just consider those three her holy trinity. Tidal is the only album of hers I’d refer to anything less than really, really good.
She’s so relatable in every way I love how real and raw she is she doesn’t make her emotions easy to swallow she wants you to choke the way she does and I love that she’s so unapologetic about it
Amazing video you should do more like this for artists like PJ Harvey, Bjork, Kate Bush and Joni Mitchell! Keep it up!
Always heard Fiona apples name floating around on my tumblr dashboard and listened to a few of her singles, but it still wasn’t totally clicking why she was so revered. Now after watching this video, the songs I’ve heard by Fiona I see in a deeper way knowing her story and how the media gave her such a hard time. Now I’m just eager to dig into her whole discography bc she seems like a very unique and genuine artist that laid the groundwork for a lot of young female artists today.
I discovered Fiona when I was 13 through a friend. Her vulnerability and the way she was able to express herself immediately resonated with me. I think my brain actually rewired itself around her tbh. I'd gone through so much in those thirteen years and felt so isolated. I found comfort when I heard someone speak about the things that I could not possibly say out loud. The lyrics of Sullen Girl and Pale September made me understand that emotion isn't on a plain beyond language and that I'm not alone. Fiona will always be the greatest musician of all time in my eyes and I owe her so much.
It's really insane how women artists are judged so extremely. You can say, well, this was the 90's and she was just ahead of her time, but look at Billie Eilish. Everyone is obsessed with her body, calling her fat or ridiculing her baggy clothes, then going mad when one time she dressed more "sexy" for a magazine cover. Billie reminds me a lot of Fiona. Both their lyrics are just so raw and full of meaning. Both are extremely young and have been thrust into stardom so quickly that yes, they're bound to make mistakes but it's not just on them, there are producers, directors, stylists, all these people that are leading them into a decision but are nowhere around when they come under fire for that decision. It's only them left standing, holding the bag like that whole music video or magazine cover was on them alone. Like they both aren't literally CHILDREN listening to the adults around them and assuming they know what they are doing.
FIONA IS A GENIUS. She is fearless and she is undeniably more relatable and unguarded than anyone we would hope to have as a best friend.
Fiona's means as much to me as probably any other artist I've ever listened. The relationship that have with her lyrics. There's so many songs that she's made that has helped me through difficult times.
every single night speaks to my soul in a way that no other written word ever has thus far.
Omg same
@@JessicaChris1612 next time I play it on UA-cam I’ll be looking at the views and wondering just how many are from you ✨🥺
omg this is me with sullen girl. it expresses emotions i cannot say myself i love fiona sm
me with i want you to love me
This was so well put together! I listened to fetch the bolt cutters a lot but never went through her entire catalogue. Would love to see more deep dives like this
Hope you discover more of her songs that you like🎶
When the Pawn... is great to fall in love completely with her. Try this one.
the idler wheel is my favorite album :)
I seriously love this channel I love how it is covering over the portion of the 90s that everyone seems to forget. We had so many women from different directions back then. We had Lilith Fair. We had women who had a voice from Tori to Lauryn Hill to Missy Elliot to Jewel. I wish we would remember this more.
she was beyond her time and still is
i barely found out about fiona apple through “i want you to love me” & didn’t know much about her. i feel so connected to her after this video. sensitivity & vulnerability in women are so scrutinized, but are such beautiful gifts when we chose to share them. “when you know yourself you know life” really hit me because she’s right. when we are in tune with ourselves, it is easier to be in tune with others. will be listening to more of her discography! thx for this video 😸
Watched this when i had no idea who Fiona Apple was, now 3 months later i can say she is one of my favourite artists. The way she writes and uses the piano to showcase her grief in Sullen girl is truly poetry. Thanks for making me discover her!
that's amazing
I can relate.. it hurts so much to be this kind of person. When it’s good, there are no words for how wonderful it is.. but when it’s bad.. there are no words.
This was my "it" girl for along time when I was younger. I relate to her life experience through her music a lot .. probably for completely diff reasons but her songs have always spoken to me.
Great video! I love how deep you went into the Tidal years
the lyric is about a man. but like even if it was about eating disorders it'd be a good representation of the mindset of someone with an ed because of a relationship gone terribly wrong. I think the only people who got offended by it are healthy people tbh.🤷♀️
she also has no skips all her songs are good as hell
Fiona Apple has an incredible song for every emotion there is.
Genius singer-songwriter.
Wow, let's say how amazing this video is. Thank u fo much for this and blessed be ur heart.
Fiona Apple is such an unique, bold, sensitive, powerful, exceptional and all of the others great adjectives you can put on artist. She is one of the finest and most talented singer, songwriter, poet of all time. I'm so glad she got to release FTBC on 2020, so the new generation could know and learn more about her.
She really shows us that sensitivity can be a strong quality and a great tool to navegate in this fucked up world. Love her so much and all of her catalogue.
her music is very special
i love fiona apple. she is a fucking genius and so ahead of our time. her music is raw, passionate and full of emotion, and being someone who feels deeply, i really relate to her songs. i admire her vulnerability and confidence and she will forever be one of my favorite artists.
I grew up in an abusive household and was a part of a religious cult in the middle of rural America. I dealt with a lot of pain and injustice and Fiona Apple's music was quite literally a lifeline for me in that dark time.
When Fiona's Extraordinary Machine album came out, I secretly watched her perform 'Get Him Back' on Craig Ferguson's Late Late Show with the TV on low, while my family was in another room. I had never heard music quite like hers or heard an artist speak so honestly about herself, and I set out to buy her album to hear more. When I went to Hastings and found a discount sticker on her 'When the Pawn' album; I bought that instead because I didn't have a lot of money. When I got the CD home and put it in the player in my room (wearing headphones so no one could overhear) I was immediately hit by the 1st track, 'On the Bound', a very dark, intense, and deeply introspective song. Nearly every song on this darkly beautiful album struck a chord with my painful life experience. I had a lot of sadness, misery, righteous anger, and a fragile inner life that was hidden away from prying eyes, and I could hear these same feelings in this extraordinary woman's voice, lyrics, and music.
Fiona's music communicated my muddled and murky thoughts and feelings right back to me, giving my hurt and confusion a clear voice and direction. I felt heard and empowered by her music and words and I bought all of Fiona's albums after listening to that first album. I felt a secret connection to her as an artist and I found a way to watch her music videos and interviews at the computers in the small public library in my town. My connection and curiosity about Fiona Apple and her music also prepared me in a way to leave my unhappy household and cult community. It was very difficult, but Fiona's music, in part, helped me articulate my feelings of hurt, anger, and outrage at how I was treated and affirmed to me that what I was experiencing was wrong and that I deserved better. Her work made me emboldened to look inward and write more in my journals about what I was experiencing. I became a stronger writer and I felt more confident in expressing myself, if only on the inside in my private world.
Since that dark time, I've come a long way in life; I live in freedom from my past, I have a decent job, I graduated college, and I live in relative peace with my siblings who also escaped years ago. I am deeply grateful to Fiona Apple for her work as an artist and I still listen to her albums when I am feeling introspective or going through another set of challenges. When I was taking a road trip by myself a few years ago, I listened to the 'When the Pawn' album again in it's totality. I cried a little bit as I drove, but those were tears of release, not pain. The fifteen year old girl who first heard Fiona Apple in secret is now mostly at peace and the woman who has moved on in her journey to heal can now look back at this time with compassion and grateful splendor. 🕯❤🩹
Wow that was beautiful 🥹
“Sullen Girl” is a song I frequently go to. I struggle connecting my life from before and after I was assaulted. I don’t really like spending time with people that knew me before because I feel so different from that person. But then I meet new people and think, “I wish you could’ve met me before.” The reserve that overcomes you when you experience an intense life changing trauma. It’s like a version of you is trapped inside of you, but at the same time you don’t want that version of you back.
“But it’s calm under the waves in the blue of my oblivion.”
I really enjoyed your video I adore Fiona Apple so much Tidal was the soundtrack of my teenage years it got me through my battle with anxiety, depression, & sh. Now that I’m 20 years old I still listen to her music on a daily basis it made me okay to be vulnerable and to express my feelings in a healthy manner. Keep up the good work btw🙌🏾💗
I'm glad you're doing better ✨
I grew up listening to her in the 90's. She is the embodiment of the 90's (there many incredible artists who did the same), but Fiona Apple was the artist who I really felt connected to. The words in her music spoke to me during a time where I was in a bad place. She's helped me through a lot.
Fiona has always been one of my favorite artists. I lived a lot of traumatizing experiences when I was younger and relate to so much of her work… I’m also hyper sensitive so it’s nice to see a woman be so inspiring while never losing that sensitive side of her.
"it wasn't about being thin, it was about getting rid of the bait that was attached to my body". Damn. Truth bomb.
I really liked this deep dive into her work, I got into her music years ago and never get tired of re-reading her lyrics while growing up.
23:03 "I read that when ropes get frayed at sea, you can repair the frayed ends of the ropes with whipping cords that are very strong. This goes right back to the parenting thing - if I had a kid, and I had a choice between teaching somebody how to avoid trouble, or teaching them how to get out of it, I'd teach them how to get out of it."
I think that's the best thing you could teach to a kid. I was taught to avoid trouble and mistakes and it's really difficult to unlearn. I have this expectation (now from myself and when i was younger from my mom) to always be perfect at first try, and when I mess something up it feels like the biggest failure in the world. It doesn't matter if I can fix it or get better, the fact that I made the mistake in the first place is more important, and it's reason to judge myself harshly.
I can see and try to change this kind of minset now, but in a situation of trouble what has been ingrained in me still prevails, you know? You can't easily undo what has been taught to you since day 1.
That's like a perfectionist struggle grappling with their mistakes. Id say were taught to do the right thing first, not make a choice and then ask for forgiveness.
I've always wondered if Fiona was on the autism spectrum. As someone on the spectrum myself, I've always really identified with Fiona and her personality. It's possible that she was misdiagnosed as a child since it's a lot more difficult for autistic girls to get a diagnosis, especially when Fiona was growing up.
i completely agree !
I was wondering this a well, since hypersensitivity is a big part of it. I'm also on the spectrum and can find myself relating very much.
Same
I think so too
I was just wondering this, too. I'm 46 now, and only figured out I'm autistic a couple of years ago after a lifetime of wondering what the hell is wrong with me. I also wonder if we are (mis)diagnosed with mental illnesses because there is money to be made pushing pills. I have become hugely mistrustful of the "professionals".
I love your channel!! And as a profound Fiona Apple fan, I really appreciated this video! I've always found it weird how people were purposely trying to misunderstand her and twist her art although she explained and justified herself multiple times, probably feeling guilty although she did nothing wrong. But in a way she also paved the way for all "Miss Understoods" (Artists, especially feminine-presenting who've had similar experiences of scrutiny and criticism based on ignorant misinterpretation, often layered with misogyny as well).
Yeah, you want to believe that nowadays situations like this don't happen but women who write "love/breakup songs" are still criticized and not taken seriously (e.g. the recent is Olivia Rodrigo)
@@antiheroines-you-love A lot of things I agree in this video and a lot that I don't. Fiona Apple didn't magically exist in a bubble of a disapproving world. As someone who was there during the 90s at the height of her fame, this video misses a lot of the context and doesn't seem to not understand that Fiona Apple came into the music industry at the height of the Lilith Fair movement which was a movement of young and talented female singer-songwriters like Tori Amos, Bjork, PJ Harvey, Jewel, Sarah Mclachlan, Poe, Kristin Hersh and bands like L7, the Breeders, Veruca Salt -- all of them putting out the same emotionally-driven and raw music to an audience that were ready and willing to accept that kind of music. Apple's music was mainstream just like Tori's or Bjork's. Women like Fiona were the norm in the 90s rather than the exception. But as the music industry moved from indie and alternative music to pop, came the embrace of vacuous artists such as the ones we have today. The indie and alternative movement was really the zeitgeist that defined my generation.
This video is amazing. Fiona is the reason I am who I am, why I feel so comfortable in my life, skin, and experiences. Why I don’t feel crazy for the way I react, live, and talk. I found her when I was only 12, now, 10 years later, she is still everything to me. Thank you for making this video ❤️
Fiona is a musical genius - not to romanticize mental health - I have struggled for years with CPTSD and ADHD - but its as if her brilliance couldn't be contained by her human brain. I was considered a "gifted child" - while simultaneously being considered a "problem child" due to a Narcissistic parent - which sounds like what perhaps Fiona was dealing with - its its own special hell.
Great mini - doc. Really digging your taste!
This woman right here… is a Queen. Love Fiona Apple. I discovered her in 9th grade and she has affected me so deeply ever since. Her authenticity, willingness to be vulnerable, and all around genius is so captivating and hits me every time. I felt so seen as a girl who has always felt things deeply God, I love her so much!
I just love her so much. I was blessed to see her live when Tidal came out. I was in 7th grade. I was blown away by the fire I felt, coming from her performance. I have been a top fan for life. She is handsdown the best female songwriter of my time.
Fiona’s voice and words have been my constant companion for the past 25 years. I can’t express the depth of my gratitude to her for being a light in my heart that always carried me through hardship.
Grew up to my mom always listening to her. My mom was my age now in the 90s grunge era. Super cool to learn more about Fiona, inspiring how young she transformed her pain into art.
Clearly to a specific group of people, we who found her music a source of support. Someone who spoke what we felt. Personally I think I know the entire first album back to front still, but Sullen Girl helped me through my own personal story. Many nights that album was the only thing that I could hold on to.
She’s never made a bad album and she’s one of the best singer songwriters of all time. She helped paved the way for a lot of female artists today.
Being sensitive is not a weakness but your strongest virtue that helps you experience life. And most important of all - not having your shit together is OK
I love this woman so much. I am also a very sensitive person and it’s nice to know that I’m not alone in this.
This is such a well made video! I’ve been listening to Fiona Apple since I was little but it was only recently that I got the urge to start learning about her as a person, so I’m glad that such a well-researched video popped up on my recommended! keep up the good work
fiona is a genius and your channel is amazing. I'm gonna be 21 this year and most of my life i was modeling myself after men i found inspirational, mostly musicians. I've had an absent and alcoholic father and no strong male figures in my life, so all throughout my teenage years i was trying to find that male support i lacked in other ways. now though in my young adulthood im discovering more of my feminine side and who i am as a woman. artists like fiona help me in that mission as well as your channel. it helps reflecting on what is womanhood. so thank you for that. women are awesome.
Fiona Apple, Lana del rey, Melanie Martinez, Mitski and so many “alternative sad girls” are so underrated! i love the messages they bring through their music
They aren't even in the same lanes but ok...
@@Gabriel-nw6lb well i think they are but ok
if you think fucking melanie martinez and lana del rey are on the level of the other two then you don't understand fiona apple or mitski
@@m1yauh well that is embarrassing... No tea no shade but lana is an industry plan lmao and she isn't nor an amazing vocalist, performer nor songwriter. So what about it rlly...
Fiona Apple paved the way for all of them.
I love Fiona Apple, she's an unique and really mature artists. I feel sorry for how she was treated in the past, but I am glad that she finally got through it and more people is understanding and empathizing with her music.
Thank you for this video! The content, script and edition are amazing 😍🤯!
intelligent and powerful .. she stood strong and tall against all the shaming & misogyny she received
I love that you did this for her. As a consummate optimist, I love listening to her songs to experience comfort in those sad moments that hit us all. And I can break down the part of being optimistic that's truly a facade. She's feel-good music for those who almost never feel good, and it's greatness.
I’m sensitive but I’m struggling to embrace it. Everyone around me tells me it’s a flaw, but I want to be authentically myself now. Thanks for vidéos like this
Fiona’s music is the kind that I listen to with headphones, alone, to reach how I’m really feeling through music. But honestly, right now I want to leave a huge comment complimenting how she made her career and audience around the world grow out of speaking the truth :).
From how I see her, Fiona is many things, as everybody is. but what got permanently stamped in my head is the fact that she kept all of herself in the true world, not in the illusion of “flawless is perfect and it should be rewarded”. What I mean is, it became a custom that if you’re popular because you’re showing your talent, you ought to look as good and as beautiful as your and other people’s talent is. That’s a fake reality. So fake that famous people even started faking their talent, so that it looks as good as someone else’s.
Everybody knows all of this, but more than half of everybody still goes with it. Fiona is in the 25% of the ppl who say “that’s bullshit, that looks fake on the outside and becomes broken in the inside.”
Thankyou Fiona
I think this huge long comments show how much she inspires her audience
Thank you for this video. I had to pause to cry when I was affirmed what she meant by "fetch the bolt cutters", & the story behind how she came up with that phrase is so wonderful. Fetch the bolt cutters, we're doing this ourselves, we're helping each other *ourselves*, we can do this, we can fight back. I feel so empathized with in her music & lyrics, I just thank her for being vulnerable & sharing that part of her with the world. She never deserved the cruelty & shallowness in response to expressing herself like that 🌸
Love Fiona and thank you for creating this video and doing her justice. She's both earthy and ethereal to me. She's been gifted with the emotional perceptiveness to express more tangibly what many of us experience through life and grow/wisen up together with her.
I am happy that people are starting to make video essays on the genius that is Fiona, finally..💜 Thank you so much, what a well researched video! 🖤
Her voice is a soul on display. Love her music!
I love that she's an artist that is for acknowledging the land they preform on when artists go on tour + educating about tribes that lived on those territories
I love this video! Can you do more breakdowns of female musicians?
Yes, really wanna do more
@@antiheroines-you-love i would love one for mitski and I'm sure I'm not alone on this
@@antiheroines-you-love Shirley Manson
@@antiheroines-you-love Not sure if you've done her already but I would love to see you do PJ Harvey!
@@jadem.1158 PJ Harvey ❤️
I just love Fiona Apple so much. She's so apologetically authentic in the way she communicates her struggles through her music and I just find it so comforting. I think what I love about her music so much is that it doesn't romanticize any of the subject matter - it conveys how truly dark these emotions and obsessions are. Her music is just so extremely relatable and she deserved so much better
I never had a role model in my childhood or when I was a teen but when I discovered her last year she became one. I really admire and adore Fiona and her music. Thank you for such a detailed insight into her career. 💕
It's so cool to learn more about her. Thanks for putting this together!
this was very well made and helped me understand who she is and what she's done, i didn't grow up listening to her and i came across "fast as you can" randomly and really liked it. this video helped me understand her impact and her influence contextually and was very pleasing to watch too. good work!
I discovered her four years ago now, as an 18 year old... no artist ever struck me lyrically and musically as hard as she did; I had never been in a relationship before, still I could empathize with every single emotion she was conveying in her songs. Her music made me see things in me [as a person and as a musician] that no other artist could ever accomplish with their music. And to top it all off, she is excelent at writing chord progressions; undoubtedly, she'll be my favourite till the day I die
I adore fiona apple. As a musician, as a person, as a creative, she is so inspiring. I truly look up to her. She never took anyones shit, always stayed true to herself.
This takes me back. I was in the free fiona group and witnessed all the planning. And we were so stoked when each song was leaked one by one. I was too young to go to NYC for the protest but it was a very exciting time.
Love fiona! My favorite album by her is extraordinary machine. Great video! I loved it
fiona apple is such a relatable person. so relatable and so normal. such a normal person. she is just a normal person. i have always liked fiona apple. i have always had a lot of respect for fiona. a lot of respect for her. me and fiona are virgos. fiona is a virgo. we're both virgos. me and her have a lot in common,we share some commonalaties and there are some differences between us.
Vulnerability is the world's most greatest strength
im not a woman (i think) but i feel so uplifted by the quote in heavy balloon i resently feel very stuck in place, but her words and knowing that someone that felt suicidal can move on and have hope again just made my day
she's my hero
I’ve been listening to Fiona Apple since I was a kid. My mom and dad love her music and so I grew up listening to her. I’ve started getting back into her on my own and now that I’ve learned more about her outside of her music makes me appreciate her music much more. I very much relate to her music. I love her so much and hope she puts out another album sometime soon (maybe like in 2030)
"such an old pain there is nothing poetic about it" damn, that's real
I've loved her for so long. I was 15 when Tidal came out. It touched me so deeply.
this just made me love fiona even more. you can tell a lot of work went into this video, thank you!
Fiona Apple has always been my top female artist. She always seemed to put into words exactly what I was feeling. I started listening to her when I was around 12. Still listen to her today at 40. I’ve always said I am a “Sullen Girl” and now knowing why she wrote that. It makes me relate to it on a much deeper level. My first sexual experience was a SA & I always thought it was what made me such a weird, awkward person… The Child Is Gone, another one that always spoke to my soul/pain… I could honestly go on forever about Fiona and what her music means to me. Loved this video!
Oh my goodness.
Any video where i can listen to Fiona Apple talk about her innermost thoughts and feelings is such a treat. She's like brain food to me.
i bought her first album with my allowance when i was 12. "Tidal" was one of the first albums that i bought for myself and i loved it right away. Actually, i knew it was a perfect album after seeing the video for "Never Is A Promise", and that's when i decided that i was going to buy the album.
Fiona is one of my cherished musical heroes.
i actually own every album of hers except for "Fetch The Bolt Cutters". i just
haven't had a chance to bond with that album and the tracks that were
released didn't pull me in enough to want to hear more.
i have never experienced that with any of her albums before.
Usually, i blindly buy the album without a single regret.
I’ve lost my sense of hope and hearing her declare hope at the end was a little shimmer of light on my healing. Thanks for this. Fiona is , and will always be, one of my favourites. ❤
i love this video almost as much as i love fiona, so well written and researched. thanks for giving her the flowers she deserves.
I didn't get to really start listening to her until I was in my 30's when I started to really depending drinking. She would explain things in ways I wish I could especially being in my what felt like an internal prison. Depressed, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, hating myself and at times hating others. But I came off as put together and was a fully functioning alcoholic. Everything felt like facade and opening up felt impossible. I'll be 42 next month, 5 years sober in April, getting help with therapy and medication after finally opening up to my family about my mental health. It's hard work but I'm getting there and Fiona really opened my eyes to a lot of it. Absolutely amazing artist and just a beautiful soul. Great job on the video and keep it up.
Her songs got me through the lowest points of my life and the darkest relationships, she is definitely not neurotypical. I relate to her so much in the way my default mode is empty, i feel nothing most of the time but not the good kind, and when i do feel it’s either so very good or so bad. wouldn’t be shocked if she was also on the ASD spectrum, as girls often go undiagnosed due to how well we learn to mask and the way we’re socialized. i highly recommend paper bag & fast as you can, “When the pawn hits the conflicts he thinks like a king
What he knows throws the blows when he goes to the fight
And he'll win the whole thing 'fore he enters the ring
There's no body to batter when your mind is your might
So when you go solo, you hold your own hand
And remember that depth is the greatest of heights
And if you know where you stand, then you know where to land
And if you fall it won't matter, cuz you'll know that you're right”
is one of my absolute favorites ;)
Those two songs are golden. Especially fast as you can. I Know and Limp are also great.
“She is definitely not neurotypical” well you don’t know her personally and aren’t her doctor so you have no reason to say ‘definitely’ about that at all.