Have you tried Permatex Aviation Gasket maker or Permatex High Tack Adhesive. I found those very effective as alternatives to 3M 847 and are readely available for a lot less money at least, in my necks of the wood. Regards !
I have this exact engine. I wish I would have discovered you before I did my impellor 3 times. I only replaced the impeller and key and didn't take the bottom plate off. Still not pumping water after 3 installs. I was going to do the thermostat next, but, I should order a complete water pump kit and start all over. I love your video and your thoroughness.
Cherish all those Candy land games and Hey Daddy’s. It doesn’t last very long. My youngest daughter just got her acceptance letter from the college she wants to go to. I’m gonna miss her when she goes. She’s a little gear head, always shadowing me when I worked on old outboards. She has a collection of her own motors.
Been trying to trouble shoot no coolant flow on a '73 50hp for 2 years now, changing thermostat and water pump didn't help, no evidence of any blockages in the powerhead. Gonna take it down like you did here and check everything again. This is an excellent video.
I have a 30 and a 50 from that era and good luck finding a prestolite trim pump or even parts when they go bad, ended up using a liner actuator and making a stainless steel bracket, good motors though havn't had many issues
Very educational video as usual.I have tried to get the cover off of a 30hp for thermostat and it appears cover had a newer gasket and after removing bolts that thing is stuck fast.Not sure if the wrong type of adhesive was used?Tried Lot of tlc without wanting to damage it prying off etc but gave up.Only one center bolt snapped off in head.Used helicons to fix that anyway.
Another great video. Man I have to get after the water pump on my 15 horse Johnson I am very apprehensive about it. You have to have the right tools for the job🤤
If you are the least mechanically inclined, you will breeze through the process. As tools go, you really only need a few standard-sized wrenches to get the lower unit loose and a screw driver to get the shift rod loose from the connector (depending on your motor year) and to work on the water pump holding srews. Of course, reviewing Brandon's great video series on rebuilding a 9.9/15 hp OMC s a must.
@@danielrobert7181 I've been repairing farm equipment practically my whole life. I've always had backup though if I ever got in trouble. I don't know anybody that works on marine engines or equipment. I appreciate your comment and I've decided I'm going for it ,thank you.👍 and yes I'll check out that video
Hi Brandon, that’s for your very informative video which is going to help me this week. I was wondering if you have conducted maintenance/recorded on the tilt system for the same model? When I raise the tilt the outboard slowly lowers back down. I’m assuming it needs the oil to be topped up or a new o ring?
Thanks for the video. Why gasket sealing compound vs never seize? Getting ready to do a water pump on a 1986 Force 125 I just bought. Very clean. very low hours. Maybe 150 hours.
@@BrandonsGarage Had the same issue until I started feeding a bit of petroleum jelly up the tube's nozzle after use. Perfectly seals out air and insures fresh product after expelling a pea-sized blob of jelly next time around. The trick also works with cartridges of glue, sealants etc. Regards !
really enjoy your Johnson Evinrude videos. They're the best. Any advice on troubleshooting the power trim & tilt guage. No movement on the guage, trim & tilt works great..Haven't found much on testing the sending unit at the motor.
Did the same thing on my 81 35 hp(not the same thermostat) but the cylinder head cover was so outa wack, meaning not flat that it was a failure just waiting to happen. As it happened , the head was warped on both sides. Clean the head cover , clean the gasket surfaces to be flat so you good gasket sealing surfaces. OH! And pls torque in the proper sequence and in-lbs provided by the manufacturer
Thanks for the good video! How or where do you find the year of your out board , does it have something to do with the model or serial number? Could you please explain Thanks
Any advice for seized lower bolts Just heat? All are free on mine but two These sure are stronger that the Yamaha bolts on the two stroke Yamahas I’ll say that
Dang, my 15hp thermostat is at the bottom. I've been dying to see how it can be removed based on Leroysrambling instructions. Sounds like a 5 hand task due to the cowling.
Great videos! I’ve started working on an 84 Evinrude 50 Hp. You videos have been extremely helpful. I haven’t gone through all of your videos yet. Could you let me know what the loctite is you’re using as a sealing compound? I’ve tried to find the Johnson/evinrude sealing compound you mentioned in the first video I watched and couldn’t find it available. Then I realized the video was from 5 years ago. 😁
Turns out that I waited to do the impeller again. Instead, I went ahead and replaced the thermostat and now she's pissin' like never before. Now my tranny doesn't go into gear. I'm sure it's something small I overlooked. I'll take the starter off and check that area where the shift rod comes up first. I hope I didn't forget the O ring on the spline.
Indicator hose ? Around here we call it a Tell - Tail or pee tube ! Lol. Not one of OMC’s better designs for a thermostat, dealerships must have complained about not enough book time to charge the customer ! Lol. The only indication of heat was on the outside except for the temp gauge , the thermostat can be explained by age and location . Went over to a friends and found 2 - 40hp s.s. ( 15” ) motors and 1- 20” but it had the conversion adapter but no 25” , must be an area thing !
Maybe climate comes into play? Many old boats don't last. Sun rots the fiberglass then the wood. Just none around. Could also be because of the fewer lakes and water-ways too. Ive seen a short shaft with a long conversion on a merc once, always thought it was kind of funny.
I like your videos they're very helpful. Have you done a video on a '91 or other year 115hp crossflow with a bubble back exhaust changing the thermostats? also, can you do it without removing the powerhead?
@@BrandonsGarage Mainly a rhetorical question, but why on God's green earth did they make it so difficult to do something as simple & common change a thermostat?
I have not I just bought this motor and it’s a 74 model I just put a carb kit after it wouldn’t start runs great now but just wasn’t sure about the thermostat I’d like to get it all updated with new water pump soon
@@BrandonsGarage low gearcase seal kit. a thermostatic valve, like the one you built. As I said, my engine is the same as this one. thanks for answering.
I have a 1984 Evanrude Super40. I believe it is identical to the 84 Norsemen. Sold to another part of the world and name something different. Is it possible to take a electric start system from a 84 Evan rude and adapted over to the 84 super40. My problem is that you damn near have to be the Incredible Hulk to pull start this motor and if you're not paying attention it will pull you right back into it. So I'm hope is that I can take the electric start setup off of the 84 Evinrude 40 and it will fit onto the 1984 Evan rude super 40. Thankyou. 🙏🙏
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Have you tried Permatex Aviation Gasket maker or Permatex High Tack Adhesive. I found those very effective as alternatives to 3M 847 and are readely available for a lot less money at least, in my necks of the wood. Regards !
I have this exact engine. I wish I would have discovered you before I did my impellor 3 times. I only replaced the impeller and key and didn't take the bottom plate off. Still not pumping water after 3 installs. I was going to do the thermostat next, but, I should order a complete water pump kit and start all over. I love your video and your thoroughness.
I appreciate your detailed video and commentary!
"I have no idea what that is but it sounds kid safe so sure" I love how you don't edit these snippets out. Thanks for another great video!
Cherish all those Candy land games and Hey Daddy’s.
It doesn’t last very long.
My youngest daughter just got her acceptance letter from
the college she wants to go to.
I’m gonna miss her when she goes. She’s a little gear head, always
shadowing me when I worked on old outboards. She has a collection
of her own motors.
Your last water pump install vid was very good. This one is even better. Thank you Brandon.
Great vid! Very informative Keep up the good work!!👍👍😎
Been trying to trouble shoot no coolant flow on a '73 50hp for 2 years now, changing thermostat and water pump didn't help, no evidence of any blockages in the powerhead. Gonna take it down like you did here and check everything again. This is an excellent video.
I have a 30 and a 50 from that era and good luck finding a prestolite trim pump or even parts when they go bad, ended up using a liner actuator and making a stainless steel bracket, good motors though havn't had many issues
Very educational video as usual.I have tried to get the cover off of a 30hp for thermostat and it appears cover had a newer gasket and after removing bolts that thing is stuck fast.Not sure if the wrong type of adhesive was used?Tried Lot of tlc without wanting to damage it prying off etc but gave up.Only one center bolt snapped off in head.Used helicons to fix that anyway.
Another great video. Man I have to get after the water pump on my 15 horse Johnson I am very apprehensive about it. You have to have the right tools for the job🤤
If you are the least mechanically inclined, you will breeze through the process. As tools go, you really only need a few standard-sized wrenches to get the lower unit loose and a screw driver to get the shift rod loose from the connector (depending on your motor year) and to work on the water pump holding srews. Of course, reviewing Brandon's great video series on rebuilding a 9.9/15 hp OMC s a must.
@@danielrobert7181 I've been repairing farm equipment practically my whole life. I've always had backup though if I ever got in trouble. I don't know anybody that works on marine engines or equipment. I appreciate your comment and I've decided I'm going for it ,thank you.👍 and yes I'll check out that video
@@johnsparks007 In fact, it is a whole series covering every facet of a 9.9/15 complete rebuild. Invaluable info !
@@danielrobert7181 thank you I appreciate it
I would love a link to the videos you are describing at 36:20 or so. Videos about removing 1986 and newer lower unit.
Hi Brandon, that’s for your very informative video which is going to help me this week.
I was wondering if you have conducted maintenance/recorded on the tilt system for the same model? When I raise the tilt the outboard slowly lowers back down. I’m assuming it needs the oil to be topped up or a new o ring?
Thanks for the video. Why gasket sealing compound vs never seize? Getting ready to do a water pump on a 1986 Force 125 I just bought. Very clean. very low hours. Maybe 150 hours.
I've used a thin bead of black RTV under that water pump wear plate with great success ! Regards.
So do I, or did, until the tube dried up. Now its just 3M 847
@@BrandonsGarage Had the same issue until I started feeding a bit of petroleum jelly up the tube's nozzle after use. Perfectly seals out air and insures fresh product after expelling a pea-sized blob of jelly next time around. The trick also works with cartridges of glue, sealants etc. Regards !
really enjoy your Johnson Evinrude videos. They're the best. Any advice on troubleshooting the power trim & tilt guage. No movement on the guage, trim & tilt works great..Haven't found much on testing the sending unit at the motor.
what might be the correct thread pitch for the hardware on evenrude outboards, may sound silly but like to be sure
Did the same thing on my 81 35 hp(not the same thermostat) but the cylinder head cover was so outa wack, meaning not flat that it was a failure just waiting to happen. As it happened , the head was warped on both sides. Clean the head cover , clean the gasket surfaces to be flat so you good gasket sealing surfaces. OH! And pls torque in the proper sequence and in-lbs provided by the manufacturer
Thanks for the good video! How or where do you find the year of your out board , does it have something to do with the model or serial number? Could you please explain Thanks
I have a J50TLCUD outboard with a 11 3/4” X 17 prop. Would this be the original prop if not what should be?
Any advice for seized lower bolts
Just heat?
All are free on mine but two
These sure are stronger that the Yamaha bolts on the two stroke Yamahas I’ll say that
What it does when thermostat is bad? My engine go down to 3000 rpm after 10 min and not even idle
Dang, my 15hp thermostat is at the bottom. I've been dying to see how it can be removed based on Leroysrambling instructions. Sounds like a 5 hand task due to the cowling.
Great videos! I’ve started working on an 84 Evinrude 50 Hp. You videos have been extremely helpful. I haven’t gone through all of your videos yet. Could you let me know what the loctite is you’re using as a sealing compound? I’ve tried to find the Johnson/evinrude sealing compound you mentioned in the first video I watched and couldn’t find it available. Then I realized the video was from 5 years ago. 😁
Thats funny. Yeah its called Loctite Aviation Gasket Sealant # 152560, and the other is 3M 847.
I'll make links for them later
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I have a lm Evinrude 40HP, model number 40555C
No spitting any water. I’m sure I need a pump. What pump do I need? I can’t find anything online
Turns out that I waited to do the impeller again. Instead, I went ahead and replaced the thermostat and now she's pissin' like never before. Now my tranny doesn't go into gear. I'm sure it's something small I overlooked. I'll take the starter off and check that area where the shift rod comes up first. I hope I didn't forget the O ring on the spline.
Indicator hose ? Around here we call it a Tell - Tail or pee tube ! Lol. Not one of OMC’s better designs for a thermostat, dealerships must have complained about not enough book time to charge the customer ! Lol. The only indication of heat was on the outside except for the temp gauge , the thermostat can be explained by age and location . Went over to a friends and found 2 - 40hp s.s. ( 15” ) motors and 1- 20” but it had the conversion adapter but no 25” , must be an area thing !
Maybe climate comes into play? Many old boats don't last. Sun rots the fiberglass then the wood. Just none around.
Could also be because of the fewer lakes and water-ways too.
Ive seen a short shaft with a long conversion on a merc once, always thought it was kind of funny.
I like your videos they're very helpful. Have you done a video on a '91 or other year 115hp crossflow with a bubble back exhaust changing the thermostats? also, can you do it without removing the powerhead?
I don't, and no without cutting the cowling off, youre pulling the powerhead.
@@BrandonsGarage Mainly a rhetorical question, but why on God's green earth did they make it so difficult to do something as simple & common change a thermostat?
Hi could you make your audio louder please cheers from New Zealand
How to change water pump empellor
How do you know when or of the thermostat needs changing? I have a 74 model Johnson 6HP
Have you ever changed it?
I have not I just bought this motor and it’s a 74 model I just put a carb kit after it wouldn’t start runs great now but just wasn’t sure about the thermostat I’d like to get it all updated with new water pump soon
good morning . i have a similar engine, evinrude 88 50 hp. But I can't find parts. could you recommend me a site to buy? thanks
Well what parts do you need?
Boats.net and/or marineengine.com usually has anything you would need.
@@BrandonsGarage low gearcase seal kit. a thermostatic valve, like the one you built. As I said, my engine is the same as this one. thanks for answering.
If you have a tiller arm for a 1990 40hp Evenrude I'll buy it from you
Yahama engine 85 2 stroke outboard but
I have a 1984 Evanrude Super40. I believe it is identical to the 84 Norsemen. Sold to another part of the world and name something different.
Is it possible to take a electric start system from a 84 Evan rude and adapted over to the 84 super40.
My problem is that you damn near have to be the Incredible Hulk to pull start this motor and if you're not paying attention it will pull you right back into it.
So I'm hope is that I can take the electric start setup off of the 84 Evinrude 40 and it will fit onto the 1984 Evan rude super 40.
Thankyou. 🙏🙏