this is why jim and whitney are my two least favorites from south pacific. especially after that scene where whitney says ozzy needs to man up and get over it. maybe you and jim should follow that advance whitney
I know they’re upset but he was screwed regardless they’re bitter towards him but they also were not loyal to him. He was on the bottom and they should have made him feel more comfortable except making him KNOW he was at the bottom.
Ozzy was on the bottom. Cochran was only ever brought up as a boot due to his liability in challenges. If not for that, we'd never had heard his name brought up. Savaii was stupid to tell Cochran it should have been him voted out. Doing so made him feel he was on the bottom when he actually was sitting in a good spot.
Sore loses. Cochran made a dumb move by flipping, but it's a game, get over it. Whitney was incorrect. Even if Cochran didn't flip, there's a chance they'd all be there. Cochran made the move he thought would help him most. That's all you can expect any player in the game to make.
@petermcgill3405 For sure. Also, Cochran had great relationships with Ulopou as Sophie and Albert were superfans around his age. If he gets to the jury, he probally had some votes ready or he probally could have used them to orchestrate a blindside on Jim later.
@@ajl9772 I think the dumbest move actually came from Ozzy. Cochran was the most skittish about a rock draw, so Ozzy could have played the idol on Cochran to stop him from flipping.
@petermcgill3405 Ozzy mentioned that after the fact. There were pros and cons to that, too, tho. They were very confident that Cochran wasn't the target. By playing the idol, they'd be basically guaranteeing a rock draw vs if they chose the correct person to play it on. No matter what, it was a game of odds. The best chance would be playing the idol on a potential target and then going to rocks. Cochran could have told Savaii he was 100% flipping if he wasn't safe. That probally changes their decision since odds are in their favor going to rocks than playing the idol on the correct person. Also, their alliance made the decision so others are just as much to blame. I don't know if he ever claimed he would have gone to rocks, but it wouldn't surprise me if he flipped anyway. Cochran thought he was in good with Ulopou and they'd take him further than Savaii if he flipped.
Cochran would then go on to play a Perfect Game in Caramoan. Which is something only he and 1 other person have done. Not to mention he also beat one of his original bitter tribe members. Hey maybe they should’ve respected Cochran and that wouldn’t have happened.
She was a bully who got flabbergasted that the guy she was constantly a dick to wasn't loyal to her. She would still be a delusional and bad player, even in the new era.
@@ThePratty437 She was rude and treated him like he was on the bottom the entire time. Even Coach said she bullied Cochran that season. She's a social moron at the very least. Her being surprised he had no loyalty to her is one of the most brainless reactions in Survivor history outside of the entirety of One World.
i can understand cochran screwed them so badly, but i mean come on. did you really expect him to risk his own game for you guys? especially after how horribly you treated him? i know for a fact i would not let a rock determine my fate in the game. especially for people i knew didn't have my back completely
I'm no Ozzy fan, but he was actually reasonable with him. After the he flipped, he talked to him about his decision rather than curse him out. He had more reason to than the others. Put yourself in his shoes. Ozzy put his game on the line for redemption Island when everyone else wanted it to be Cochran. Cochran actually was in a few people's final plans. Cochran is just an insecure person. He thought he was on the bottom when throughout the game he was never in any real danger. Every move Savaii made was to undermine Ozzy. Cochran was a liability in challenges which is why Ozzy kept pushing for him. But Savaii kept Cochran around everytime. Ozzy was on the bottom, not Cochran. No one wanted Ozzy to make it to the end and Jim wasn't gonna let Keith and Whitney stay together. Cochran was in a good spot.
They treated him like crap the entire pre merge and then were mad at him for flipping. So ridiculous.
this is why jim and whitney are my two least favorites from south pacific. especially after that scene where whitney says ozzy needs to man up and get over it. maybe you and jim should follow that advance whitney
Such a great narrator, one, if not the best in survivor history
And yet, look at him now.
I know they’re upset but he was screwed regardless they’re bitter towards him but they also were not loyal to him. He was on the bottom and they should have made him feel more comfortable except making him KNOW he was at the bottom.
Ozzy was on the bottom. Cochran was only ever brought up as a boot due to his liability in challenges. If not for that, we'd never had heard his name brought up. Savaii was stupid to tell Cochran it should have been him voted out. Doing so made him feel he was on the bottom when he actually was sitting in a good spot.
Sore loses. Cochran made a dumb move by flipping, but it's a game, get over it. Whitney was incorrect. Even if Cochran didn't flip, there's a chance they'd all be there. Cochran made the move he thought would help him most. That's all you can expect any player in the game to make.
The irony is I think Cochran dropped from third place to eighth place with this move.
@petermcgill3405 For sure. Also, Cochran had great relationships with Ulopou as Sophie and Albert were superfans around his age. If he gets to the jury, he probally had some votes ready or he probally could have used them to orchestrate a blindside on Jim later.
@@ajl9772 I think the dumbest move actually came from Ozzy. Cochran was the most skittish about a rock draw, so Ozzy could have played the idol on Cochran to stop him from flipping.
@petermcgill3405 Ozzy mentioned that after the fact. There were pros and cons to that, too, tho. They were very confident that Cochran wasn't the target. By playing the idol, they'd be basically guaranteeing a rock draw vs if they chose the correct person to play it on. No matter what, it was a game of odds. The best chance would be playing the idol on a potential target and then going to rocks. Cochran could have told Savaii he was 100% flipping if he wasn't safe. That probally changes their decision since odds are in their favor going to rocks than playing the idol on the correct person. Also, their alliance made the decision so others are just as much to blame. I don't know if he ever claimed he would have gone to rocks, but it wouldn't surprise me if he flipped anyway. Cochran thought he was in good with Ulopou and they'd take him further than Savaii if he flipped.
Could you post the entire ponderosa from this season
I know Dawn gets alot of unnecessary hate, but watching this really makes her actions seem so hypocritical.
Cochran would then go on to play a Perfect Game in Caramoan. Which is something only he and 1 other person have done. Not to mention he also beat one of his original bitter tribe members. Hey maybe they should’ve respected Cochran and that wouldn’t have happened.
Whitney would be worshiped if she played in the new era.
She was a bully who got flabbergasted that the guy she was constantly a dick to wasn't loyal to her. She would still be a delusional and bad player, even in the new era.
@@monovision566 What did Whitney do that made her a bully?
@@ThePratty437 She was rude and treated him like he was on the bottom the entire time. Even Coach said she bullied Cochran that season. She's a social moron at the very least. Her being surprised he had no loyalty to her is one of the most brainless reactions in Survivor history outside of the entirety of One World.
@@monovision566also she basically cheated on her husband before the divorce was complete
@@monovision566I completely disagree. I think she would be.
Queen Whitney
i can understand cochran screwed them so badly, but i mean come on. did you really expect him to risk his own game for you guys? especially after how horribly you treated him? i know for a fact i would not let a rock determine my fate in the game. especially for people i knew didn't have my back completely
I dont like him, but the karma is, Jim never got back on because of this behaviour and Dawn lost out to him at FTC
I thought the Scale was saying he was 55 Pounds, like Oh God 😂😂😂
Than he won in a dominant way and it was there fault not his they treated him horrible why would you go to rocks with people who treat you horrible
Gosh he was so gross. The whole Savaii tribe that made the merge is trash especially him, Ozzy, Whitney the mistress and JIM.
I'm no Ozzy fan, but he was actually reasonable with him. After the he flipped, he talked to him about his decision rather than curse him out. He had more reason to than the others. Put yourself in his shoes. Ozzy put his game on the line for redemption Island when everyone else wanted it to be Cochran. Cochran actually was in a few people's final plans. Cochran is just an insecure person. He thought he was on the bottom when throughout the game he was never in any real danger. Every move Savaii made was to undermine Ozzy. Cochran was a liability in challenges which is why Ozzy kept pushing for him. But Savaii kept Cochran around everytime. Ozzy was on the bottom, not Cochran. No one wanted Ozzy to make it to the end and Jim wasn't gonna let Keith and Whitney stay together. Cochran was in a good spot.
Ya, I like Dawn and Keith the best of the Savali tribe and that’s not saying much