Did This Kiriko Deserve To Be Blamed By Their OWN FRIENDS? | Overwatch 2 Spectating
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The Kiriko does need some work, but holy god that Orisa 😭The nerve to blame the support when the cart is 2m from making it to point and they're halfway across the map 😭
That Orisa was making some egregious plays
i think she could of gone deeper, not quite at their spawn doors
To be fair, this is silver 4 so it's gonna be clear people need work, but I have no idea how that orisa made it to silv4. That game awareness and playstyle is ATROCIOUS and I think the kiriko did fine in comparison to ranked numbers.
its the psychology of tank players. It doesn't seem to end at any rank. They just go in and expect to be healed no matter what they do. I literally just had a diamond game with a doomfist who jumped over 2 buildings to the enemy spawn repeatedly and got picked, then had the nerve to say healers werent keeping him up. Tank players consistently seem to be the least aware of anything thats going on in the game. They just do what they want and whatever happens, happens.
nah man they both aren't good, hence why both are in silver. Kiriko was pushing in wayyy too much and wasting resources, positioning was also so questionable idk where to start.
that orisa was playing an adventure game bro holy crap
They were looking for the hidden loot chest 😂
@@Adventist1997they were looking for the secret pirate orisa skin. The one in the secret loot spot that totally exists 😂.
@@quiteslayer4067
Yeah it's hidden in Orisa's g-spot... The good spot 😂
What the horse doing? 😂 This entire video I was looking for the tank and constantly going HUH?!?!
Fr. The team could have used a Lifeweaver to pull Orisa’s head out of the clouds
@@alicetheneko7529 Nah in lower ranks people's first reaction to getting LW pulled is to run head first back to where they were no matter how low they are
i genuinely hope the orisa saw this vod on stream or sees this video so they get a dose of reality.
@@mcl4549ye IV seen it in low ranks I'm the very few people when a life weaver plays well and saves me I'll stay get healed and think of what strategy to use rather than run back and die
Orisa went on an adventure, they were wondering around the map like they were looking for supplies.
If your friends are flaming you instead of helping you get better, they aren’t your friends
they didn’t say they were being harsh tbf
@@GiveMeTheRice if this persons friends provided any constructive criticism, they probably wouldn’t have written the post.
I do both flame my friend and help him get better. It helped him get out of bronze into gold 2
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yeah maybe but what we do know is the "friend" said this game was that player's fault
@@naliskun4222 that’s not an inherently toxic thing. why wouldn’t you tell your friend that they can improve when they come to you asking to watch the vod?
What great "friends" I know when I have a bad game and I tell my friends sorry and they say don't worry bro we got this.
They blamed you??? This tank is legit playing how much damage can I take 😂😂 also your friends are about as intelligent as this tank if they said it's on you
that Orisa made me SO MAD LOL
Orisa fighting her demons instead helping the team was chef's kiss
the friends who were higher rank were probably higher by 1 rank.
Facts 😂
Fuck me any1 with some semblance of intelligence will know it was on orisa. You cant tell me the friends are higher than bronze.
so, embarassingly im the kiri in this video. theyre diamond 1 and 2 :(
@@sycoskizm i don't think you did too bad tbh, you made some mistakes but everyone does so it isn't a big deal, but that tank definitely wasn't a good tank. Also i wouldn't take advice from diamond players since they really aren't any better themselves. just focus on your suzu usage and you should be in a better position to climb higher.
@@sycoskizm If you're embarrassed about your play, don't be. If you're embarrassed that you're friends with such morons, that's understandable . I'd argue that this was so obviously the tanks fault, that I'd be embarrassed that I even asked my friends if they agreed with me. It's just that obvious.
That Orisa is the kind of tank to dive way back into the enemies backline and constantly avoid your LOS and then go and complain about healing like they expect you to constantly be on them and only them
You know that feeling when your tank is on low HP and they're backing out but the second you heal them even a little like they suddenly think their invincible and charge into the whole team?
Yeah that's this Orisa
Omg that’s been happening so much to me and it’s soooooo annoying. Like yeah you can go into the team fight but don’t think I’m coming in while a whole team needs healing and you could just wait/LOS them
7:45 had to rewind it twice cuz I had no idea who the kiriko elim'd right there, that Cass came out nowhere lol
their friends blaming them are insane i feel like they must be the same ppl who always blame supports
also that orisa really heard you should go for the other team’s backline once and took it to heart what was that flank 3rd point omg
They were throwing, that’s what they did… But must have been the Kiriko since she didn’t Tank for the team 😂
I hate when players complain about healing on scoreboard. I mean, they were dying WAY less than the enemy team. As a support player, at one point you realize you shouldn’t need to get 22-30k healing to win a fucking 10min game. That means something else needs to be adjusted quickly.
people reach for any excuse as to why they are losing. They find a single number that is lower than theirs or the other team and decide thats the person who lost the game. No concept of context or what makes the numbers what they are. I've seen tanks w/ 2 healers pocketing them just walk out and get instantly melted because they went into a zen, mauga, bastion combo over and over. So we obviously didn't do any healing during that. But then he complains about healing. It doesnt occur to him that the other team healed way more because their tank stayed alive and was around to be healed. OR that the other tank had some mitigation to save him for a few seconds while he got healed up. For a game that has so much strategy countering involved, its amazing how little awareness people have while playing it, even as you climb up in levels.
As much I wanna critique kiriko that orisa is the actual reason the game was lost like that was so stupid it was driving me MAD how they were in OT and THEY WERE OFF IN NARNIA???? WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?? A BALL???? 😊
that orisa was playing like she was playing sombra and kept making herself the juiciest tank kill when out of position… the audacity 🤣🤣 and also if those friends were in a “much higher” rank, they’re lying. 😂
That Orisa is a great advertisement for 6v6.
Sure this guy ain't the best but he's trying, he's doing correct plays according to his awareness. But that Orisa deserves to be reported for griefing and blocking team progress.
people like that Orisa are the reason I started saying, 'we can't heal through walls.' they always complain when there's 4 walls and an enemy team between you and them.
14:32 I think that their thought process here was very simply 'they are pushing cart and there's no one contesting so I'm dropping down so we don't lose right now' which of course should not be the support job to do in this situation. That Orisa should be playing Ball/DVa/Winston if they want to keep diving and hunting the backline lol
The kiri def needs work. But the orisa threw multiple fights in a row and got lucky that the dps popped off while they were off in la la land.
Okay I mean. I get it, you play tank and you sometimes get too bloodthirsty. The line between appropriate and *inappropriate* aggression can be a little fine. But y'know what, if I'm chasing a DPS around to confirm a kill and entire teamfight is happening that I'm not there for, I'm not about to get mad at the supports for me going off on a sidequest.
Did the Kiriko play perfect? No. Did they lose the game? Also no. But that Orisa's positioning was so bad I'd almost say that the only way to fix it would be to go LW and fix it for them (don't do that, I literally never support pulling tanks around at your whim just because you don't like your positioning. This Orisa though really truly needs like a driving instructor with breaks on their side of the car playing alongside them).
Respectfully & jokingly, i disagree. If the tanks positioning is LITERALLY that bad, then I do support going weaver & constant pulling to reposition. Tank was basically throwing w/o being afk that 3rd point & idgaf how mad theyre gonna be when I lifegrip them. All jokes aside tho, you gotta do what you gotta do. If a teammate keeps diving the enemys & getting rolled or god forbid lost in narnia chasing a squishy, then they deserve to be yoinked, pulled, & straight up DRAGGED back to where they need to be. Theyre gonna learn good positioning during this match with me whether they like it or not 😂😂
@@iceghost97 Lmao it's one way to do it. I find it just causes more problems because you and I both know they're just going to run right back in there and flame about it. But at a certain point you do what you can do
13:20 this player needs to get into the habit of healing the people who need healing and letting people who are behind cover and safe wait a second or self heal or use the passive. they turn to heal Illari but Illari was fine. their teammate to their left, however, was actively being pressured and needed healing much more.
healing priority is so important with the dps passive, and it's not a static list. if your other support is safe, they shouldn't be at the top of the list, even if they're missing some hp.
healing priority means healing the people who can be saved, letting the people who you cannot save die (don't waste your resources trying to save someone who cannot be saved), and letting people who are safe wait a second until the people who are low at back at a safe threshold.
learning who cannot be saved is a process that will happen over time but ONLY if you review your replays and see who died and ask yourself why they died and if there was anything you could have reasonably done to save them. if you die trying to save them because you went out of position to try, that's probably a good sign that they couldnt be saved in the first place, especially if they end up dying anyway. but always also ask if you could have positioned in a better spot that would have let you survive longer and thus let you heal them longer.
21:01 this player keeps looking at the ground while healing people normally and I'm pretty sure it's because they want to use suzu but it's on cool down. just be more mindful of the cool down and quickly look at your cooldowns every so often to see when they're up. don't assume they will be available when you think you need them so just check every few seconds. you don't have to look for a super long time, just a quick glance. if you don't, you end up missing a lot of healing and deprive yourself of situational information because you're staring at the floor instead of at teammates to heal them or at enemies to see where they are or at the map to find cover.
speaking of, always be next to a wall or corner or prop on the map. never just stand in the open. this is how you make yourself a free pick which is a big deal ESPECIALLY in overtime. never be a free pick. always make the enemies work and invest cooldowns to get you.
Anyone else scared of turning into this Orisa when they get old?
What?! Where am I?! How the hell did I get here?! Stupid kids! Stupid supports!! I would have gotten away with it if wasn’t for those meddling kids. It was my teammates fault!
I see the problem and it ain’t the kiriko
nahhh when that orisa was so deep in flank during CONTEST when you absolutely need your tank to hold point so everyone else can stand in cover and do their jobs instead of being forced to hold point as a squishy 💀and then he had the gall to blame the supps right after
I don’t even get the mentality. Crying “Why aren’t you healing me?” Do they think you’re out to sabotage the team?
I think so. I have no idea.
I’m a kiri one trick and I usually have lower healing then my other support teammate. I make up for by getting off angles, contesting high ground, my dps is usually way higher then my other support and the other two supports on enemy team. Sometimes I do get blamed by lower ranks tho
@@vanessaoftheundead2613 you are the lower rank too though lol
@@neilmallick20 lol what rank are you?
The kirko needs to stop cleansing for no reason. The tank needs to remember that the psyload is the objective not the enemy 30 meters away
Ironic tank is complaining while they're lost
stats = nothin, its just a tool too whine at ur teammate
check "tank falls over, i'm a tank" off the bingo card 💀
I hope this Orisa see's this.
there's no way that horse should be pushing that hard without knowing how to use cover
There's something people need to get through their thick heads, SUPPORTS ARE NOT HEAL BOTS.
Ya so they saw this and said it was kirikos fault no way with the orisa in the enemy backline tryna get the sojourn while there team is struggling. lossing a dps for a tank is a huge trade so thats why they lost defense
One day I just want Emongg to do a psychological break down of tank players, because I just don't get what happens in their heads most of the time. Random flanks when your team is being pushed on point. The duality of either suicide charging or standing like a statue and refusing to move up. Refusing to be behind cover, ever. Random insistence to pursue the enemy all the way to their spawn, even after you just got killed doing that. Randomly abandoning the team to chase down a genii five miles from point. I could go on forever but no role makes me go "wtf are they doing?" more than tank.
I'm genuinely curious to know what rank are his friends
i was literally about to type this bc theres no way they can be higher than plat 😂
@@XCryptic124 i saw them mention under another comment that the friends are diamond 1&2.
How are they diamond 1&2 and call this the kiri's fault like bro what were they on
@@caleblackey3769mercy mains I'm guessing
@@caleblackey3769cause imagine it from their perspective. they’re way higher ranked than silver. in their eyes, any silver player is bad. if they watched their silver friend play, they’d say it’s the friends fault. if they watched the dps, theyd say it’s the dps’s failt
Every single time I'm on Hollywood and one of my supports is illari, the tank ALWAYS plays in from of the Arch where the illari puts her pylon. It blows my mind why you wouldn't want to use the heals that are there
This kiriko play like my lil sister play whenever there’s an enemy jump on her. She go “omg idk what to do, help!” And proceed to click every button.
She never played ow2 before
And also, kiri’s team is like tank always disconnected because WOW! Orisa not even in a point.
I used to do that, the secret is to not hold the mouse button, stay calm and aim the knives well, you can beat a lot of characters in a duel
question, is it worth it to try and send a vod to emoong? i feel that he probably gets a lot of them and mine is gonna get stucked in the basement forever.
Something to remember is that he does more of these on his stream than he uploads on YT
If your friends couldn't recognize that Orisa play, they're not much higher rank than you are.
Had to watch this because of the short but yes the kiriko does need to improve. Emong is so correct about her mistakes. I just wouldn’t blame kiriko fully when the tank tossed it on 3rd point for not existing. I also wanna know their friends elo 😡 shame on them for blaming you when in the end it’s a team game
This is a great example of how stats don't mean anything. Orisa's ratio looked really good, but they were feeding. Kiriko's ratio was good as well, but they consistantly wasted on of the game's best abilities.
Orisa's Excellent Adventures in Hollywood
Broo the bots 😭
Oh noes... did we lose the green screen? I miss the green screen! Green screen was a very informative and professional production that we all need 😁
Upp to gold tank dont know how to use natural cover. Low gold tanks kinda hide from team-support in front of natural cover :P
High, gold/plat tanks start to use natural cover. Hence they survive downtime untill next healburst.
The horse is a massive thrower. There's a difference between making a mistake, and what that person is doing. Completely useless to the team and not even trying to win
I wonder if they were anticipating them or their teammates getting melted, which resulted in not-so-good suzu usage
Bottom line: if you're going to blame someone else for something, your own performance had better be IMMACULATE.
I have NEVER seen a tank as absolutely dogshit at the game as that Orisa. WTF are they doing in NARNIA????
What rank is this because that orisa is playing like tanks I play with in bronze while the kiriko is playing much better then myself or others I've seen
got some pretty lame friends if they were blaming them for this gameplay, honestly wasn’t that bad.
I swear I had this exact same orisa like two nights ago…
She needs to heal more, maybe if she healed more, then the Orisa would be able to go to Canada
Seems like they're auto-suzuing their orisa's ult which feels backwards.
im still early in the video rn but i remember now checking ur stream. I JUST KNOW IT WAS THAT ORISA that made u pause a lot LMAO
You CANNOT blame your supports or your team in general when all you do is go for joy walks
Lmao the heal to damage ratio is almost identical
i remember being in a similar situation, made me realize they were toxic so i stopped hanging out with them.
The Kiriko needs new friends. The Incompetence of that fucking Team is unreal.
I kinda want to play like that orisa now
5:15 holyshit I didn't know this
Bronze silver and gold are THE elo where tanks are gonna ask you to pump so much heal non stop into them to compensate their lack of awareness. Healboting them just encourages bad behavior like a Mauga using E early fight when full hp, they will never realize if they are constantly topped off by supports. Best thing to do is to just let them die and let them realize their in the wrong. As a support you will be more able to clutch things/kill useful stuff etc and actually climb. And the more you climb the more they will understand and less heal you’ll have to pump. Seeing a scoreboard with 22k heal is nothing to be proud of lmao
Those are some fake friends.
Another student of Awkward and damage damage damage.
Zarya died during swiftstep. maybe kiri should've gone for them instead, but seems they were a goner either way around 6:00
i feel like a lot of streamers who spectate these replays have way too much faith in the other support. its silver, that bap doesnt have a brain, i promise
bro that orisa fucking SUCKS LMAOOO WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING BRUH?? how u gonna blame ur support when u are out of position almost every damn sec. actually delete the game at that point cuz what are u doing bruh
When did all the cod players decide to hop on ow. No matter what character people pick theyve been playing tdm on their mind. I played a team with the worst synnergy ive ever seen and they could not stay alive bc their one healer was dpsing pretty sure she had mostly self heals as a moira. If yall find some people you click with play with them bc win or lose at least itpl actually feel like overwatch
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Flanking Orisa. Emongg wouldn't get it.
Are those friends like... blind? How is anyone meant to do anything when tank is off on a side quest across the building lol, ON ORISA NO LESS 💀
Season 12 is officially unplayable
How do people get away with talking shit. My account got permanently banned for mild shit talking/banter
Holy bots
I speak for everyone when I say this orisa should delete the game
This the most painful VOD I have ever seen on this channel. The kiris suzus, sensitivity and the lack of good positioning is so painful to watch. AND THE ORISA... don't even get me started on her
Completely doubt that their higher ranked friends blamed them, def lied about that part.
im the kiri in the video. they definately did, and we watched this together and went over their points
wdym it was the flankrisa's fault for LOSing their supports this is preposterous
Need to work on not getting lost everytime you tp and your aim and your crosshair bwcause you keep looking to suzu just yourself alot. Also note to tp to your dps. Stayed on the tank too often sometimes but in the times your were ith your tank you would get lost when pressured
Is your higher rank friends in a throuple with the tank? Like you're by no means perfect, but neither is the rest of the team.
NINTH!!!!
I know we're all thinking the tank's at fault, but it's a Team effort tbh.
Support roles are there to keep your team alive. Supports are NOT DPS roles! The ONLY #s I look at when playing support is my heals and saves (res with Mercy). If you would rather get kills, you should be playing another class
Non wall climbing Kiri, damn what a waste.
25 seconds ago feels illegal
garbage orisa
Reminds me of thw Junkrat who gave me a snide remark in the enemy tank play of the game: "I see two tanks, one is bad."
As if I didn't try to stall a payload from moving as Sigma, someone praise our supports who worked overtime! Nearly died 3 times and it felt like me vs the world.
I forget Kiriko can wall climb 😢