slow ass charge attacks from final fantasy adventure to secret of mana lol 5:53 priceless rap though 8:08 lol cyan so slow world of ruin charging for quadra slice, appreciate flaws being told. I'll take the Saga spinoffs for being unique with the sparking mechanic and free roam, good or bad. I even tolerate unlimited saga a little though I feel Romancing Saga 3 was the best. Saga Frontier was good though the sequel recycled too many enemies, but I liked the duel system as much as Suikoden.
As much as the SoM remake fails to capture a lot of the charm of the original, I actually found it a lot easier to play. that being said, the ToM remake demo has sold me on picking the full game up at the end of the month; and it pretty much does everything I wanted a proper remake to do *cough* FF7R *cough*
@@JCOdrjones after playing both ToM Remake and FF7R I can say that the former is a better game/remake. FF7R is flawed; but still good, and I am interested in seeing where they are going with its "remake" of the story. Just sad to see remakes of games like FF7 and RE3 are kind of not what a lot of people were expecting.
"This game is such an adventure". This also summarizes the game for me. Yea it has issues and it can be slow at times, but as you said, it sticks with you for very long.
I'm loving my time with the Trials of Mana remake on PS4. I'm on my second playthrough now and about to beat the post game content for a second time. I really hope the Mana series still has a future despite it not being the power house that Final Fantasy is. I think Square-Enix needs more niche games like these to show people that they aren't just making other games to fuel the FF Factory machine. They need to take chances, be creative and stop being so safe with their formulas now.
Regardless of its flaws, I think Sword of Mana is always gonna be my favourite entry in the series. It turned the first game into an absolutely beautiful adventure that, while frustrating to play at times, really captured my imagination as a kid like no other game could.
If first got in the Franchise since Secret Of Mana. 3:54- LOL 13:30- Seiken Densetsu 3 was originally planned to be called Secret Of Mana II in the west before it got brushed aside in the last minute.
Y'know I *would* pretend to be surprised that you watch Kbash and act all whoa and shit that "A UA-camr I know and like is watching another UA-camr I know and like!", but honestly Kbash is so up your alley that I'd find it weirder if you didn't watch him.
Would love a Legend remake. Maybe fix Dawn of Mana in the process haha. I liked the world/story and the music of DoM but the fighting/level system always bugged me and my friends, still own my original copy. Maybe one day we'll get to a fifth installment to the series.
Thank you for you nice words for Secret of Mana 2/Trails of Mana. This is my favorite game of all time and it deserves every attention. I can't wait for the remake to come out this month.
Seriously, I have the most trouble finding an actual good review of Final Fantasy Adventure. Even though this is about the other Mana games, this one takes the cake as the one video I've been looking for. Great humor and I love the editing!
No joke there. The grating small japanese kid voice is somehow LESS anoying than the english VA. I'm on my second playtrough now, and with Duran, Kevin and Angela I was able to return to the english dub, it's not perfect, but will work
I hear the english voice of Carlie and it is horrible. So horrible. That's the reason I keep the japanese dub with my game and Carlie sound so okay in the original dub.
No it's down to the issue that once the Enemies start queue;ing a second spell in a row, it can quickly devolve into a feedback loop where they're chain casting so much that you have to mash buttons yourself just to eat healing items in between the LANDSLIDES of total party wipe damage they're spamming and it's no longer a balanced ARG at that point.
SoM is a good game, and you can overlook its many, many, many flaws up until getting Flammie, immediately after that the game becomes a _"Where the fuck do I go?"_ type of game, and the grinding becomes a chore since everyone is like 6 levels over your current weapon/magic level, so you need to grind, and the most powerful your weapon becomes, the less you're playing but dodging attacks and praying that it won't miss, otherwise you just wasted your time for naught. _soundtrack still slaps tho..._
Check out secret of mana turbo on the rom hacking website. It's really great and fixes basically every issue you have. Dumb ai, characters getting stuck on things, magic spam, the weapon charging, basically everything. And is extremely customizable letting you pick and choose which things you want when patching the game Also, in sd3/trials of mana - the stats are broken on purpose. The devs had to disable them probably due to lack of time to balance them. There is mods that fix them and you immediately see how broken it is. There is also a huge mod I think called sin of manathat does a ton of things. Rebalances the game, fixes the stats, has difficulty levels, and changes what each class learns
The only thing that agility and luck do, by my recollection, are affecting the trap wheel from opening treasure chests. Agility slows it down, Luck increases the number of OK's in the wheel. Not great, but it's SOMETHING. But yeah. Definitely noticeable if you try using Hawk vs anyone else with way lower rounded secondary stats.
Fuck that Darkshine Knight fight. Took me two hours of grinding my face against him before I learned that I could turn my party member's special moves off.
Oh shit. I saw the thumbnail but thought I had set it to watch for later since I was doin something. Thank you for fucking reposting it. I love it even if I'm only a few minutes in.
console virgins: *_"Ree! Nintendo didn't Localize it to western markets until 2019!"_* PC chads /w Emulators early 2000's: _"Huh huh... Sorceress showin' her ass"_
Luck actually affects trap rates for chests in Trials, or at least it seems that way. It was also supposed to affect crits, but as you said, it's glitched. Have to wonder why that was never fixed in the collection?
The best kind of rpg to me is the dragon quest builders series. Not only you build the town and complete the objectives, but you also have all rpg elements associated with it...
Lol man if you didn't post that you made this great video on your feed I wouhave even seen it even though im subscribed and have notifications turned on for this channel. Thanks for the review and entertainment.
The turn-based slander at the beginning is uncalled for and stupid, both are classic and great. As a Mana fan, not the best lead-in haha Edited after watching it all: I do agree with a lot of your crits of the series, although I think that Secret of Mana is better than you give it credit for. The plot is better in Japanese, it just sadly doesn't come across as well in the lackluster localization. Still think the knocking on turn-based systems gets old, even if these two games coming to stopping halts IS an issue. It actually honestly feels like more of an issue in SD3 than 2 somehow, despite it being a more polished game.
My Chocobo broke his legs should be the tagline for any event involving golden chickens lol. But seriously, Trails remake from the demo is looking pretty damn good.
Never played these but I played sword of mana on gba. Wasn't aware of the cyclical nature of what happens in order to restore the mana tree. Played the Hero protagonist. Game had 13 year old me crying like a baby. Didn't see that shit coming.
I first played Final Fantasy Adventure in 2019 as an adult and there was a special kind of body horror in that Chocobo scene. It was a different time, for sure. Still, the game was good enough to make me into a Mana fan. Secret, not so much, because stunlocking is not fun (and it happened to me a few times before I even beat the supposed tutorial). And then Trials was amazing, even though, yeah, the constant pausing later on becomes a pain.
I'm playing through the series now and I'm probably gonna come back after I've beaten each game. But I gotta say FF Adventure was amazing to me. So much better than i expected. I loved absolute everything about the game, even the story. I can't wait to see what Secret is like
As much as i love the mana series people have to remember one thing if you come into these games and play them dont expect a perfectly happy ending for the most part there is some rather big sadness to the endings in the mana series.
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the Trials of Mana remake. I’m playing through it again in anticipation of Visions of Mana. I played it at launch and really loved it - I was familiar with the mana series before but never got the chance to really play any of the games, so the Trials remake was sort of my intro to the series. Even years after my first play through, I’m sucked right back in. Just a thoroughly fun and enjoyable experience if you ask me. Anyway, recently discovered your channel and I really enjoy your stuff man - keep it up.
yo what a trip, i remember playing seiken densetsu 3 in english in the early 2000s and was like "wtf is he talking about, it was localized!" turns out the guy that sold cracked psx games for, well, cracked psxs (don't sue me i was/am lower class in south america) got the '99 fan translated version instead of just getting the original. That's wild
I have to disagree with you for one thing about what you said at 16:26 You've said that the Luck and Agility stats didn't worked, but you missing the point on how they worked. For the agility Stats, it also help you to attacking faster, if you mash the A button instead to just keeping the button, you character can attack faster. It's not alot ,but it's notable between the early game and the end game of your character. And for the Luck Stats, it's also worked for those Trapped Chest you can found once you defeated all the ennemies in a zone. The more luck you have the least chance you will see traps in the chest + the fact it will slowing down the wheel.
There's two remakes of Final Fantasy Adventures: Sword of Mana (GBA) and Adventures of Mana (Android/IOS/Vita) Alongside The remake of secret of Mana (not good, but If you want to play, do It on PS4 and avoid the vita Version) Trials of mana is comming for the Nintendo Switch Very soon
Proof that more games need to be birthed out of portals from a Japanese man's head
slow ass charge attacks from final fantasy adventure to secret of mana lol 5:53 priceless rap though 8:08 lol cyan so slow world of ruin charging for quadra slice, appreciate flaws being told. I'll take the Saga spinoffs for being unique with the sparking mechanic and free roam, good or bad. I even tolerate unlimited saga a little though I feel Romancing Saga 3 was the best. Saga Frontier was good though the sequel recycled too many enemies, but I liked the duel system as much as Suikoden.
As much as the SoM remake fails to capture a lot of the charm of the original, I actually found it a lot easier to play.
that being said, the ToM remake demo has sold me on picking the full game up at the end of the month; and it pretty much does everything I wanted a proper remake to do
*cough* FF7R *cough*
FF7R rad tho
@@JCOdrjones after playing both ToM Remake and FF7R I can say that the former is a better game/remake.
FF7R is flawed; but still good, and I am interested in seeing where they are going with its "remake" of the story.
Just sad to see remakes of games like FF7 and RE3 are kind of not what a lot of people were expecting.
@@pockystyx4087 3 years late but I hope you enjoyed ToM, I absolutely loved it personally - enough to run it three times for the plat!
@@Valkenhyne i've yet to get the plat, will probably try to finish it up lol
Trials is legit one of the best RPGs of its era and it not getting localized is criminal. Can't wait for the remake
"This game is such an adventure". This also summarizes the game for me. Yea it has issues and it can be slow at times, but as you said, it sticks with you for very long.
It's starting to feel like Kbash is really trying to get us to listen to his future mixtape.
true true
I'm loving my time with the Trials of Mana remake on PS4. I'm on my second playthrough now and about to beat the post game content for a second time. I really hope the Mana series still has a future despite it not being the power house that Final Fantasy is. I think Square-Enix needs more niche games like these to show people that they aren't just making other games to fuel the FF Factory machine. They need to take chances, be creative and stop being so safe with their formulas now.
Regardless of its flaws, I think Sword of Mana is always gonna be my favourite entry in the series. It turned the first game into an absolutely beautiful adventure that, while frustrating to play at times, really captured my imagination as a kid like no other game could.
If first got in the Franchise since Secret Of Mana.
3:54- LOL
13:30- Seiken Densetsu 3 was originally planned to be called Secret Of Mana II in the west before it got brushed aside in the last minute.
Your channel is how I learn about all these amazing Japanese franchises that I keep telling myself I’ll check out but know I never will
Y'know I *would* pretend to be surprised that you watch Kbash and act all whoa and shit that "A UA-camr I know and like is watching another UA-camr I know and like!", but honestly Kbash is so up your alley that I'd find it weirder if you didn't watch him.
@@AntanovOCEFGC They also did a fun collab video about Soulsborne bosses
Kevin stomping around will never not make me smile, it's such a silly walk.
Please let the remake of Trials sell well so we can get a Legend remake.
Would love a Legend remake. Maybe fix Dawn of Mana in the process haha. I liked the world/story and the music of DoM but the fighting/level system always bugged me and my friends, still own my original copy. Maybe one day we'll get to a fifth installment to the series.
I would love sword of mana to get a remake. I know that it's already a remake of the first game, but I still think it's the definitive version.
I came from the future, your two wishes were granted.
@@henriqueabreu9706 😆
Plz don't rip on legend of mana, dad.
20:11 that Vento Aureo reference... *chef finger kiss* mwah
A video: something related to jojo
Us: *chef kiss*
I absolutely adore that very first game, and I keep hoping it gets some kind of significant re-release.
tons of fun
Thank you for you nice words for Secret of Mana 2/Trails of Mana. This is my favorite game of all time and it deserves every attention. I can't wait for the remake to come out this month.
Loved this episode so much!!! Trials is one of my favorite games of all time and you covering it is getting me even more hyped for the remake!!
I remember how much fun I had playing Children of Mana when I was younger, it was so cool
Yes indeed the greatest saddest soundtracks
Seriously, I have the most trouble finding an actual good review of Final Fantasy Adventure. Even though this is about the other Mana games, this one takes the cake as the one video I've been looking for. Great humor and I love the editing!
Watching your mana videos again ❤ This is how I originally found your channel. Call it a testament to the series' nostalgic charm.
Duran - Paladin
Riesz - Vanadis
Carlie - Necromancer
Ultimate party in Tanking, Healing, Buffing, Debuffing and Attacking
lol, I just B-lined through it as NinjaMaster + StarLancer + RuneMage ... no Tank, no Heals, quickest run yet
Yeah those menus literally baffled me for hours. I didn't realize girl and sprite kid could equip armor for like the first 1/4 of the game.
The ring menu was and still is awesome in SoM1.
Nobody:
Kbash: "Secret of Mana gets a lot of criticism."
Me: ?
Carlie/Charlotte was tolerable until the official translation went and made her speak in baby talk.
No joke there. The grating small japanese kid voice is somehow LESS anoying than the english VA. I'm on my second playtrough now, and with Duran, Kevin and Angela I was able to return to the english dub, it's not perfect, but will work
I hear the english voice of Carlie and it is horrible. So horrible. That's the reason I keep the japanese dub with my game and Carlie sound so okay in the original dub.
*_T W I A W S O F M A N A_*
i mean FFS, she was canonically OLDER than 4/5ths of the other party members
Bro you went hard on the beat
Legend of Mana is by far the most interesting in the series.
Ro D. Rigo seiken densetsu 3 is the best
So what im getting from this review
>great games but my ADHD makes it hard to play
No it's down to the issue that once the Enemies start queue;ing a second spell in a row, it can quickly devolve into a feedback loop where they're chain casting so much that you have to mash buttons yourself just to eat healing items in between the LANDSLIDES of total party wipe damage they're spamming and it's no longer a balanced ARG at that point.
Digibro is a patron? That’s awesome!
Always wanted to play these games but never did. I found myself loving the tales series for my JRPG fix.
New sub to ya and you are absolutely hilarious, even noticed the grump reference 🤣
SoM is a good game, and you can overlook its many, many, many flaws up until getting Flammie, immediately after that the game becomes a _"Where the fuck do I go?"_ type of game, and the grinding becomes a chore since everyone is like 6 levels over your current weapon/magic level, so you need to grind, and the most powerful your weapon becomes, the less you're playing but dodging attacks and praying that it won't miss, otherwise you just wasted your time for naught. _soundtrack still slaps tho..._
16:48 as a luck main I'm offended
Luck also affected the likelihood of rare items in enemy chests.
honestly thought you were going to mention the remakes
Trials of mana looks great and I can’t wait until it comes out
I watched this video all the way though, and goddamn, this is one of the edgiest videos I've ever seen.
No real mention of the amazing soundtracks these games have? Otherwise, it was a good summary!
I love your videos, KBash!
Thanks for alway bringing the quality content I go to UA-cam for.
I miss sitting on the floor with my friends playing Secret of Mana, can't believe it's been almost 20 years
Mood
Really hope my childhood favorite Legend of Mana gets the ol' KBash treatment.
Please be gentle daddy.
Check out secret of mana turbo on the rom hacking website. It's really great and fixes basically every issue you have. Dumb ai, characters getting stuck on things, magic spam, the weapon charging, basically everything. And is extremely customizable letting you pick and choose which things you want when patching the game
Also, in sd3/trials of mana - the stats are broken on purpose. The devs had to disable them probably due to lack of time to balance them. There is mods that fix them and you immediately see how broken it is. There is also a huge mod I think called sin of manathat does a ton of things. Rebalances the game, fixes the stats, has difficulty levels, and changes what each class learns
Why do I get the feeling that there's going to be a part two?
Because he left legend of mana from gba and didnt even comented on it
I really wish modern action RPGs had star ocean or mana-esque menu-based screen-pausing cursor-targeting spells
Bash I really love your pacing.
Great work!
You really spit some bars only 5 mins in the video😂😂
The only thing that agility and luck do, by my recollection, are affecting the trap wheel from opening treasure chests. Agility slows it down, Luck increases the number of OK's in the wheel. Not great, but it's SOMETHING. But yeah. Definitely noticeable if you try using Hawk vs anyone else with way lower rounded secondary stats.
As a fan of the old Mana games, I sincerely appreciate this
Your thoughts on design are golden, you're humor is golden, definitely going to reach out to you at some point if I happen to need game design advice!
this series really got me into jrpgs, trials was my favorite and I see it as a grandad to octopath traveler, very excited for the remake.
Keep doing an awesome job KBash!
Fuck that Darkshine Knight fight. Took me two hours of grinding my face against him before I learned that I could turn my party member's special moves off.
this might be one of the best videos I've ever seen on UA-cam
Oh shit. I saw the thumbnail but thought I had set it to watch for later since I was doin something. Thank you for fucking reposting it. I love it even if I'm only a few minutes in.
You really deserve 100k subscribers.
console virgins: *_"Ree! Nintendo didn't Localize it to western markets until 2019!"_*
PC chads /w Emulators early 2000's: _"Huh huh... Sorceress showin' her ass"_
Pixelated Graphics should never die. Those bits are fucking *_C R I S P._*
Remember playing 3 with my buddies after school on his computer.
Luck actually affects trap rates for chests in Trials, or at least it seems that way. It was also supposed to affect crits, but as you said, it's glitched. Have to wonder why that was never fixed in the collection?
this video is great.
you actually managed to make me want to go into that hellish series
Uhhhh can say something weird
If Randi is part Mana part Gemma does that mean that he could become the next Mana Goddess or in this case God
The best kind of rpg to me is the dragon quest builders series. Not only you build the town and complete the objectives, but you also have all rpg elements associated with it...
"A gross child"
I died xD
Lol man if you didn't post that you made this great video on your feed I wouhave even seen it even though im subscribed and have notifications turned on for this channel. Thanks for the review and entertainment.
At 15:16 when he kills the Tomato. I'm gonna put my SNES gaming cred to the test and say its a sound effect explosion from Super Aleste.
I love when you nerd the fuck out on systems and mechanics
The rap @5:48 is GOLD lolz
Is this man setting us up for a Rise of FF playlist🥺👉🏾👈🏾 I hope so
The turn-based slander at the beginning is uncalled for and stupid, both are classic and great. As a Mana fan, not the best lead-in haha
Edited after watching it all: I do agree with a lot of your crits of the series, although I think that Secret of Mana is better than you give it credit for. The plot is better in Japanese, it just sadly doesn't come across as well in the lackluster localization. Still think the knocking on turn-based systems gets old, even if these two games coming to stopping halts IS an issue. It actually honestly feels like more of an issue in SD3 than 2 somehow, despite it being a more polished game.
When you play last cloudia and wonder what those 3 characters in that cross over was from.
You realty can not compare games of yester year with the expectations of today.
My Chocobo broke his legs should be the tagline for any event involving golden chickens lol. But seriously, Trails remake from the demo is looking pretty damn good.
This dude looks like a band member of Glass Beach... love it
Man i love this series Y.Y
Lol, been playing Seiken Densetsu 3 for years
Never played these but I played sword of mana on gba. Wasn't aware of the cyclical nature of what happens in order to restore the mana tree. Played the Hero protagonist. Game had 13 year old me crying like a baby. Didn't see that shit coming.
I've been in love with this franchise for 30 years❤
Lore of The Birth of Secret of Mana momentum 100
No there is no criticism to make, secret of mana is perfect. Just let it be lovely good times
I first played Final Fantasy Adventure in 2019 as an adult and there was a special kind of body horror in that Chocobo scene. It was a different time, for sure. Still, the game was good enough to make me into a Mana fan. Secret, not so much, because stunlocking is not fun (and it happened to me a few times before I even beat the supposed tutorial). And then Trials was amazing, even though, yeah, the constant pausing later on becomes a pain.
So much love for secret of mana
I actually thought that the guy in final fantasy adventure looked like a Bartz mix and warrior
I'm playing through the series now and I'm probably gonna come back after I've beaten each game. But I gotta say FF Adventure was amazing to me. So much better than i expected. I loved absolute everything about the game, even the story. I can't wait to see what Secret is like
As much as i love the mana series people have to remember one thing if you come into these games and play them dont expect a perfectly happy ending for the most part there is some rather big sadness to the endings in the mana series.
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the Trials of Mana remake. I’m playing through it again in anticipation of Visions of Mana.
I played it at launch and really loved it - I was familiar with the mana series before but never got the chance to really play any of the games, so the Trials remake was sort of my intro to the series. Even years after my first play through, I’m sucked right back in. Just a thoroughly fun and enjoyable experience if you ask me.
Anyway, recently discovered your channel and I really enjoy your stuff man - keep it up.
yo what a trip, i remember playing seiken densetsu 3 in english in the early 2000s and was like "wtf is he talking about, it was localized!" turns out the guy that sold cracked psx games for, well, cracked psxs (don't sue me i was/am lower class in south america) got the '99 fan translated version instead of just getting the original. That's wild
You never disappoint with weird Japanese games I played when growing up
I scrolled through the video bar without clicking and see no legend of mana scenes.
Played secret of Mana with brody and Marcus when we were at Fanshawe lol
Hes bugging secret of mana was the best one I love the fighting in it the story was better too and the characters secret of mana just had everything
Up next: The Rise and Fall of Silent Hill
BRUH BRUH. Anytime you wanna geek out over team build in trial of mana, LET ME KNOW. those classes and abilities are sooo fucking fuuuuuun
I have to disagree with you for one thing about what you said at 16:26
You've said that the Luck and Agility stats didn't worked, but you missing the point on how they worked. For the agility Stats, it also help you to attacking faster, if you mash the A button instead to just keeping the button, you character can attack faster. It's not alot ,but it's notable between the early game and the end game of your character. And for the Luck Stats, it's also worked for those Trapped Chest you can found once you defeated all the ennemies in a zone. The more luck you have the least chance you will see traps in the chest + the fact it will slowing down the wheel.
Great upload
welcome back to KBars
WAs ThAt a JOJo's ReFErEncE???
Good vid your channel got me into some of these vintage games, cheers mate🍻
The luck is Seiken Densetsu 3 applies to the ring that appears after you open a chest. You get less items that will attack you and more OK.
What a shame no-one has played the best damn mana game out there. Legend of mana
There's two remakes of Final Fantasy Adventures: Sword of Mana (GBA) and Adventures of Mana (Android/IOS/Vita)
Alongside The remake of secret of Mana (not good, but If you want to play, do It on PS4 and avoid the vita Version)
Trials of mana is comming for the Nintendo Switch Very soon
@PianoManiac the GBA version is better
Vendura the origins GB version is the
best.
Also the soundtrack of this game is top 5 all time
will u do secret of evermore and legend of mana
You managed to sum up all the reasons why I don't like Secret of Mana in exactly ten seconds! Nice! 👍