Today is M. Bison day! As you would expect I was up early and dumped some hours into the lad, and now with that combined with my time from the Summer Game Fest I have a much more complete idea of the character and he's even stronger than my initial impressions! I don't think he's top tier or nothing, but he has a clearly defined gameplan (AGGRESSION) great walkspeed, huge buttons, does what Honda got nerfed, better than Honda did it before it got nerfed and just tons of stuff! Lots in the vid so give it a good explore, like if ya liked it and let me know what you think!
I do think some of the Honda differences are type of gameplan. Bison needs to be close enough to get his setup in place. Honda's headbutt knocking down gives him time to setup spirit. And it really does seem like the downsides to Bison's scissors on block are that, if you're spacing it right, sure you're mostly safe, but he still has to reset his pressure game. And anything that breaks up his pressure is really bad for him. Like you said, his defense isn't terrible, but based on normals and tools, once he's out of his pressure game, he has to get even more defensive than Honda. But we'll see how it pans out over time. I was immediately joking around about how his gameplan feels like a weird mix of Honda and Marisa!
This week on the channel is basically gonna be Bison week, so expect a LOT MORE! Stay tuned over the next few days, cause not only are we gonna do stuff like combos and a big guide like you'd expect, but also dig into the lore and the story of whats going on cause there's a fair bit!
Bison literally spared your World Tour character because the horse took a liking to you. He clearly values that horse enough to braid its hair himself.
Good stuff, Terry is coming in about 2 months too if they do a September release. They did say they plan on being more consistent with SF6 content in general, we might be getting an outfit 4 announcement real soon
(read as overly dramatic as possible) Us grappler mains are a truly abused people. Bullied in the corner and at distance by zoners in game, then bullied by the devs in the patch notes and complainers online irl. Roofle is our only friend!
It has to be some kind internal joke that they removed every grappler's command grab vortex, but nearly every dlc characters gets a meterless throw loop lmao
Akuma's 5HK is -13 if blocked by a crouching opponent, and a free counter hit punish into imagination. It can also be called out with a Drive Impact. The move has more total frames than a complete Drive Impact. Seems like a pretty fair trade for being +3.
The mine adds an additional resource that a Bison player wants to manage, which makes his offense, and overall, the character more threatening when it's active. This adds him to the likes of Lily, Manon, and Jaime, as a secondary resource/minigame character. A significant difference, however, is Bison essentially gets his mine for playing the same game he was always going to play, then being rewarded extra for it. Mine into crusher is essentially Lily's wind stock into her version of a crusher. Lily has to stop her offense and make herself vulnerable to attain that stock, though, whereas Bison just has to get a hit, and now the opponent naturally doesn't want to press a button. He's a minigame character that plays the minigame he gets rewards from free.
I played after the server maintenance and completely forgot it was Bison drop day. Once i hopped on when the servers were back up, first person I played was Bison and I genuinely thought someone hacked him in early or something. Very silly
rooflemonger,...or IrishOrangutan apparently,...was always fast, now he's just outrunning himself. We get the Elena video before Capcom releases the trailer, I tell you... ^^
I’m just constantly in shock at the damage levels in sf6. Am I crazy to think it should be nerfed again across the board? Wouldn’t more interactions in a round reveal the better player in general…..I know time played increases but is that so bad, not like we are pumping quarters at the arcade lol.
@@Sharky_0456 What I mean is he wont be tournament worthy outside of the two gief players that will do well but never win a major. Them just doig ok is enough for other crybaby pro players o to complain to force capcom nerfs and we see this strategy is working.
@@EdgeO419i feel like even without the HK Nerf zang isn't all that competitively viable and hes still really fun to play so its not like the character is completely dead. hell even if he was people would still play him cause people like grapplers and casuals are the majority of every games player base
I'm glad I'm not crazy, seeing the way some of bisons moves work, combined with his normals, and I'm just... so why can't honda have anything close to this?
@@emsaxI definitely agree with him being the best dude is insane with his tools his pressure his spacing mind game etc. I’ve never liked bison because I did not like the playstyle of charge characters but he is so fun to use in this game
loved the video as usual roof, things i learned from the bison discussion is to use more of his M scissor kick around mid range for good counter pokes and to use his st. HP a bit more from a certain range for a good punish into mines. i'll keep trying to get better so i can get master bison soon....hopefully
there is legit no reason to play Honda anymore. Damage? bison has it. drive rush? Bison's is better. normals? Bison's are better. hit confirms? bison's are WAY better.
His Devil's Rise is everything I was hoping it would be. It's easy to get plus frames off of it, even full screen (no OD needed) it's easy to get left/right mix, and the OD knee is so satisfying to land
@@KingJinzo2125 Right? I play a ton of characters and I'll tell you going from playing Bison to playing Juri or Jamie is a wild experience. It's like easy mode neutral vs hard mode neutral. Same with footsies really. Because it's Juri "I need to carefully choose my buttons" vs Bison "scissor kicks go brrr" But I really hope they don't nerf it because I'm having a blast.
Thank you for flying the Honda flag 😭. I am trying to spread Sumo across all local tournaments to give him some representation among a sea of shotos. Doskoi!
Bison is ridiculous overpowered... Most things safe + insane dmg beyond normal, it is frustrating at best. Expect mostly bisons in the next few months... I even concider p-laying him and I HATE charge characters. but he is ridiculous easy. I wonder who balanced Bison, because clearly he was not :D P.S. When Mika? I miss her, I hope Terry has a command grab, Else I will be waiting a long time till season 4. : / We need more grabbler love.
I really wanna get back on the stream train. Problem is unlike many other channels I am a one man show here and editing takes up most of time time lol. Bare minimum after things slow down after evo ill start streaming again then cause i wont be spending 12 hours a day labbing + editing.
Dude the Zangief nerf was uncalled for. Its also way too early to even know if zangief is a problem. This reeks of the devs needing to get off of twitter. Twitter skews too negative to take good feedback from there nowadays.
4:23 So not only is s-HP +1 on block up close, but if you notice here HE'S +2 DEPENDING ON WHERE IT HITS. That's some plus frame privilege right there. Us Ed mains could only wish for a plus-on-block normal. (s-HK doesn't count and we all know it)
Bison's EX crusher can destroy EVERY PROJECTILE SUPER IN THE GAME, including Ed's and Rashid's Level 2. I fkd around and found out apparently. Never randomly throw those out against a Bison with some meter left, trust me!
I am finding hilarious the ways they justify otherwise villainous, amoral or brutal characters taking you in. JP - Overall so nihilistic that he teaches you just for the sake of some vague interest/amusement because frankly all your efforts to get strong are pointless in his eyes. Juri - Thought it was funny you copied her. A.K.I - A reasonable sentiment on trying to help her- and having her own poison test dummy. Akuma - Was bemused about you laughing off his beatdowns and decided to see how much more you could endure. Biosn - His horse likes you.
@@ultraheaven8968 one veteran player did well at one tournament and people whined and they nerfed it less then a month after they buffed it meanwhile Akuma sthp is one of the biggest bullshit normals ive ever seen in a modern SF game can rock all day, Lukes CMP terrorized the entire game for an entire year without nerfs and they barely touched it in the patches
headbutt distance wasn't a nerf. Honda needs to be closer to leverage his command grab. i also think scissors and headbutt aren't even in the same class of move. Scissors and HHS are closer equivalents. Bison needs CH or PC to combo from his advancing multi-hit move, while Honda does not.
The thing about the kick is checking the bisons spacing it still has to be positioned for safe spacing in a way like they’re going for the charge or at mid spacing. So when they’re walking back you could still see they’re setting up a safe spaced scissor kick
Excellent video. Could you do a how to play charge character video? Charge inputs scare a lot of people, myself included, but I’d love to hear your tips on how to approach it.
well you kinda just find the time to sneak in charge at all times. I'll have to think about that in terms of making that a viable video. I've been playing charge chars for over 30 years at this point so its sorta just natural for me lol
@@rooflemongerthanks for the tip! I’m working on it. My thumbs need to adjust to the new process. If you ever do make that video we’ll be here to watch it! Like we do for all your videos 😂
Are scissor kicks comparable to the headbutt? I feel like they're just different moves. Different input styles, different hitbox, different super cancels. Scissors into super reminds me of a shroyuken into super for the shotos, am I incorrect? I could be, I don't have a lot of experience in fighting games yet but from a noob POV the headbutt is a very different so it's not as comparable.
really surprised that they didn't make scissors way more negative on block and giving it a different use in gameplay strategy after changing it to be a motion. now it's a move designed around being a charge that isn't gated behind a charge and you can just throw out instantly, kinda crazy.
I'll stick with the character only because of the animations and design. He's like a creepy Magneto, the horse stance looks sick, and the throw game, when you throw back and he does like a swipe kick into a chest kick that then throws you away is soooooooo cool.
Just as a thought, the mine would be cool as some kind of parry move, that sounds mean enough for Bison, it wouldn't be overpowered since you had to trigger it and it would kind of fit, get a little Geese into his gameplay.
I'm pleasantly surprised how much I like Bison just from training and running through arcade mode. I was going to play him for a while anyway because he's cool, but I wasn't sure if he'd be a character I'd want to stick with long-term. Sometimes you get the initial badass character/hot waifu hype and you end up not vibing with how they play. Fortunately, Bison's got the kind of belligerent stuff I can dig.
Luke, Ken, JP, Cammy, Guile, and DJ get 365 days of top tier tools and poor Gief gets a buffed from bottom middle tier to top middle tier for only 35 days then nerf SPD comes out of nowhere...Why are grapplers so disliked? I think it because people hate making one mistake and boom 30%+ goes their life bar. They never consider what it takes for the grappler to get in, to even do that.
I hope that this is man is a martial artist than the final boss dictator because I don’t want JP to be wasted. Plus I was expecting that bison will lose his memory for the entire game but I guess that he has his memory back
Well jp was shown as a subordinate of bison in bison’s world tour cutscene so I think it’s too late for him to be saved. I wish they would’ve kept the two somewhat separate from one another but still being aware of each other’s presence
@@KingJinzo2125 the separate part sounds like bison and Seth scenario, we need something new in my opinion. Plus JP becoming a financial for shadaloo again instead of a new dictator sounds like we went to cycle and it would’ve been better to have a better story like Luke Jamie and Kim are making a new generation
Thank you for standing up for the Honda mains. It's looking kinda bleak for us this season. Does Psycho Crusher stop when it's jumped over by the opposing character? Like the way they changed headbut to do? That would be the nail in the coffin for me.
I was wondering if you had any advice for me. Sf6 is my first street fighter and I wanna pick up bison but I have a really hard time with charge characters. I play classic on keyboard, I’ve been thinking about getting a leverless controller like a hitbox but I’ve heard some people say just stick keyboard. Do you have any advice or video to help me get better at charge characters? And should I switch off of keyboard?
I played with him for an hour with my rental and I was able to place as Diamond 5 after my 10 matches. He can bait DPs... he is strong, but few really understand what to do with him. All the players I played were having no clues and that is including all skill levels.
I have the vid a 👍🏽 because I appreciate the channel but I hate these technical vids of Street Fighter coming from everywhere. They are informative and great for all the online competitors but breaking the game down to science and the jargon in the analysis just kills the fun for me but I'm old and will always prefer the old school way we're we just learned by playing blissfully ignorant to knowing about frames plus and negative on block reversal nerfed and buffed big buttons and hurt boxes etc just hey tried this it works doesn't work here or against this character so good don't do that here coz you could take lots of damage this move could get me out of a tight spot. Ahh. . back in the day, a more innocent time 😊 however you do it enjoy the fight guys 👍🏽
From my limited play of him this Bison just does not gel with me. Knee Press being motion makes the move feel flimsy and Light Psycho Crusher being slower than SF4 Heavy Psycho Crusher is a turn off for me. Also, while it's awesome that we can control when or if we dive with Headstomp it feels awful that Devil Reverse takes a Kick button first. And I can't get over that the Slide Sweep is Down Forward. I don't even think it slightly balances him compared to Dhalsim where his White Girl Sweep is Down Back because Bison can White Girl Sweep from Down Back too. I wish they would add a Legacy Controls mode where you can choose to have Special Moves or applicable Command Normals use older inputs.
Today is M. Bison day! As you would expect I was up early and dumped some hours into the lad, and now with that combined with my time from the Summer Game Fest I have a much more complete idea of the character and he's even stronger than my initial impressions! I don't think he's top tier or nothing, but he has a clearly defined gameplan (AGGRESSION) great walkspeed, huge buttons, does what Honda got nerfed, better than Honda did it before it got nerfed and just tons of stuff! Lots in the vid so give it a good explore, like if ya liked it and let me know what you think!
This is the one time I legitimately can't tell if there was a type for Lab/Lad hahaha
@@Acusumano25 oh its lad, i talk like an old timer
M Bison looks amazing. Specially his new appearance.
@@rooflemonger whippersnappers these days wouldn't comprehend
I do think some of the Honda differences are type of gameplan. Bison needs to be close enough to get his setup in place. Honda's headbutt knocking down gives him time to setup spirit. And it really does seem like the downsides to Bison's scissors on block are that, if you're spacing it right, sure you're mostly safe, but he still has to reset his pressure game. And anything that breaks up his pressure is really bad for him. Like you said, his defense isn't terrible, but based on normals and tools, once he's out of his pressure game, he has to get even more defensive than Honda. But we'll see how it pans out over time. I was immediately joking around about how his gameplan feels like a weird mix of Honda and Marisa!
This week on the channel is basically gonna be Bison week, so expect a LOT MORE! Stay tuned over the next few days, cause not only are we gonna do stuff like combos and a big guide like you'd expect, but also dig into the lore and the story of whats going on cause there's a fair bit!
Who braids the horse's mane? I imagine Bison humming his classic theme as he does it
He does it to trick RDR into thinking he's an ok guy despite his war crimes.
And when you ask him whose theme it is he says, "No idea, but I'll take it."
Bison literally spared your World Tour character because the horse took a liking to you. He clearly values that horse enough to braid its hair himself.
I am ready to ride my horse into the sunset of missed inputs.
Agreed. Who needs combos and neutral when we can scissor kick our way to master?
@@JoeyCentralYep doesn't matter the Controls either even though you can Manual on both to pick your version of it.
Bison got that carpal tunnel hand
Me after a session of playing
Took me a while to get into sf6 as a tekken player but I'm glad I stuck around, so many fun characters to play and even more on the way!
Still weird how between Aki and Ed there was this massive wait, and now we basically got 3 characters in a row.
Yeah the consistency of releases are weird
Good stuff, Terry is coming in about 2 months too if they do a September release. They did say they plan on being more consistent with SF6 content in general, we might be getting an outfit 4 announcement real soon
there will be another near 6 month wait somewhere along the line, prob after terry
I wanna see how terry & mai turns out!
wdym
akuma and bison are only 2 characters
(read as overly dramatic as possible) Us grappler mains are a truly abused people. Bullied in the corner and at distance by zoners in game, then bullied by the devs in the patch notes and complainers online irl. Roofle is our only friend!
_reading with zenitsu's acting_
I wish zoners were bullied instead. They’re the worst 😅
Im with you bro, just let gief be good everyone
Grappler mains also can win a match easily with 2-3 touches so it balances out
@@Just_Manny305if you get 3 touched by grappler that means all of it is punish counter.All character can 3 touch on punish counter
Capcom: Did I just catch Zangief players having fun?
*SLAP*
It has to be some kind internal joke that they removed every grappler's command grab vortex, but nearly every dlc characters gets a meterless throw loop lmao
Akuma teleport grab is the best grab in the game.
@@EdgeO419only bc mental stack
Bisons got that funky flowing hand dance going on
I’m so happy I can have the alpha 3 announcer 😭😭 NOW I just hope we can add it to the matches at some point 😈 I wanna hear “GO FOR IT MAN” lol
TRIUMPH OR DIE!
@@kingcombo9799 YES dude
@ireaperslegend7426 Alpha 3 announcer was goated. I played alot of that game cause of him.🤣🤣🤣
If only he released on Tuesday. They missed a trick there
Yeah, ai wonder why Capcom didn't rellease him on Tuesday. They know the meme. It feels like there was something behind it... I wonder what.
I mean you could have played him Tuesday night offline
But for Bison, it is a Tuesday
He was released on Tuesday, offline, servers went online Wednesday
Servers came back before midnight. he did.
7:12 I think the silliest part of that combo is that despite the ridiculous damage, he still has drive meter afterwards
So glad both Akuma and Bison have massive buttons in their sHK and sHP that are plus on block, yep, so happy, great stuff
Akuma's 5HK is -13 if blocked by a crouching opponent, and a free counter hit punish into imagination.
It can also be called out with a Drive Impact. The move has more total frames than a complete Drive Impact.
Seems like a pretty fair trade for being +3.
The mine adds an additional resource that a Bison player wants to manage, which makes his offense, and overall, the character more threatening when it's active.
This adds him to the likes of Lily, Manon, and Jaime, as a secondary resource/minigame character.
A significant difference, however, is Bison essentially gets his mine for playing the same game he was always going to play, then being rewarded extra for it.
Mine into crusher is essentially Lily's wind stock into her version of a crusher.
Lily has to stop her offense and make herself vulnerable to attain that stock, though, whereas Bison just has to get a hit, and now the opponent naturally doesn't want to press a button.
He's a minigame character that plays the minigame he gets rewards from free.
Bison is like Juri with his Minigame, he just gets it naturally?
Good luck finding someone scared to press
I played after the server maintenance and completely forgot it was Bison drop day. Once i hopped on when the servers were back up, first person I played was Bison and I genuinely thought someone hacked him in early or something. Very silly
rooflemonger,...or IrishOrangutan apparently,...was always fast, now he's just outrunning himself. We get the Elena video before Capcom releases the trailer, I tell you... ^^
As a Gief main today its been a nightmare 🥲
I was telling my buddy that Bison has stuff s1 Honda had, but people won't complain because it's Bison.
Same for him having Dee Jay's drive rush.
It was a problem on DJ, but everyone seems to love it on Bison.
Because Bison is like 200x cooler than Honda
@@SpiteHook09he wishes
@@pn2294I like Honda more but M.Bison looks cool
guys, I think the sf6 balance guy likes shotos.
I get bodied by Ken's constantly. The fact that he's untouched makes me take the game far less seriously.
I’m just constantly in shock at the damage levels in sf6. Am I crazy to think it should be nerfed again across the board? Wouldn’t more interactions in a round reveal the better player in general…..I know time played increases but is that so bad, not like we are pumping quarters at the arcade lol.
im kinda glad they finally gave ken some sauce tbh tho cause hes never been quite this good
Yeah damage is stupid , they'll have to address it eventually cuz 2 touch into gg isnt street fighter @@surtrpicks
@@Sharky_0456yikes
Justice for Zangief!
at this pointt if this is the standard of bullshit DLC characters are going to have into season 2 Gief might as well be deleted from the game.
no !
@@EdgeO419 hell nah how dare you
@@Sharky_0456 What I mean is he wont be tournament worthy outside of the two gief players that will do well but never win a major. Them just doig ok is enough for other crybaby pro players o to complain to force capcom nerfs and we see this strategy is working.
@@EdgeO419i feel like even without the HK Nerf zang isn't all that competitively viable and hes still really fun to play so its not like the character is completely dead.
hell even if he was people would still play him cause people like grapplers and casuals are the majority of every games player base
The announcer thing scared me at first. I wasn't expecting to hear mr. 3S
I'm glad I'm not crazy, seeing the way some of bisons moves work, combined with his normals, and I'm just... so why can't honda have anything close to this?
It's so weird how if I get my ass beat by Honda I'll be upset but if it's Bison I just think "yeah, that seems right"
Street fighter 6 just got better with the return of M Bison.
He's a different character than any on the current roster. It's really great variety
Worse* because the character is highly unbalanced.
@@watchmesquatch he's fine I havent lost to a Bison yet just get gud
@@FidoHusky Even Sajam the dude who never calls things broken said he is the best character in the game...
@@emsaxI definitely agree with him being the best dude is insane with his tools his pressure his spacing mind game etc. I’ve never liked bison because I did not like the playstyle of charge characters but he is so fun to use in this game
"Some kinda pun with mine I got nothin'"
"It's all in the mined"
Fixed it for you.
Can't play until tomorrow, but seeing craaaazy stuff with the character. Great video!
I think Japan hate grapplers
and the mayority of the player base, also called low ranks (which I am)
Bison is a pressure monster, all his buttons feel beefy
I’m noting an ever so subtle hint of bitterness at Honda’s nerfs..
The blurb on the Gief MK nerf is hilarious. “He was winning in neutral and we cannot have that.”
Hobo ken meet hobo bison.
Good stuff gorilla man 👍👍
loved the video as usual roof, things i learned from the bison discussion is to use more of his M scissor kick around mid range for good counter pokes and to use his st. HP a bit more from a certain range for a good punish into mines. i'll keep trying to get better so i can get master bison soon....hopefully
The pun you were looking for was "Mine is bigger"
The real question I have is, who's gonna go next to Luke and Jamie? Wasn't expecting Bison to just be centered at the bottom
Goodbye Honda Nation, I'm now a citizen of Bisonopolis.
there is legit no reason to play Honda anymore. Damage? bison has it. drive rush? Bison's is better. normals? Bison's are better. hit confirms? bison's are WAY better.
His Devil's Rise is everything I was hoping it would be. It's easy to get plus frames off of it, even full screen (no OD needed) it's easy to get left/right mix, and the OD knee is so satisfying to land
I try not to use it so much because it’s so good but damn is it fun having a free full screen approach
@@KingJinzo2125 Right? I play a ton of characters and I'll tell you going from playing Bison to playing Juri or Jamie is a wild experience.
It's like easy mode neutral vs hard mode neutral. Same with footsies really. Because it's Juri "I need to carefully choose my buttons" vs Bison "scissor kicks go brrr"
But I really hope they don't nerf it because I'm having a blast.
Thank you for flying the Honda flag 😭. I am trying to spread Sumo across all local tournaments to give him some representation among a sea of shotos. Doskoi!
Rooflemonger hit the best tone and cadence of his intro this video. I friggen watch these videos sometimes just to say the phrase with him 😅
🙏
Why did I get my reaction spin knuckle removed by Bison gets crazy reaction anti fireballs :(
Great review, great content!
Bison is ridiculous overpowered... Most things safe + insane dmg beyond normal, it is frustrating at best. Expect mostly bisons in the next few months... I even concider p-laying him and I HATE charge characters. but he is ridiculous easy. I wonder who balanced Bison, because clearly he was not :D P.S. When Mika? I miss her, I hope Terry has a command grab, Else I will be waiting a long time till season 4. : / We need more grabbler love.
I'm with ya. I was a Honda main day 1
This was a psychotic breakdown of lord bison
Cool, love the QoL changes!
The honda salt is hilarious but fair scissor kick is nasty
would be great to see you stream!
I really wanna get back on the stream train. Problem is unlike many other channels I am a one man show here and editing takes up most of time time lol. Bare minimum after things slow down after evo ill start streaming again then cause i wont be spending 12 hours a day labbing + editing.
@@rooflemonger ah sure makes sense. Keep grinding dude!
Dude the Zangief nerf was uncalled for. Its also way too early to even know if zangief is a problem. This reeks of the devs needing to get off of twitter. Twitter skews too negative to take good feedback from there nowadays.
Gief is still top tier chill out lol
Now you feel how DeeJay mains got after we got our Knee Shot nerf
@LetsPlaySagaraStyle DJ had a full year being top tier, Gief's had a few weeks of being A tier. Those aren't the same situation bro.
@@Amaling???
Now you know how Kim players felt after the beta ended.
I CAN HEAR THE PAIN IN ROOF'S VOICE LOL
Has anyone spotted Vega is in the credits, or am I forgetting some dialogue he had via someone else’s story/world tour conversations?
He has dialogue in one of Bison's side quests.
Ah. Didn’t know if that was an oversight. Haven’t played Bison’s world tour yet.
Ken players will eat 8k damage from the dp mine punish and still shoryuken with the mine on them in the corner.
The pure joy in his voice mentioning that H.P is plus on block was just so awesome. Love to see rooflemonger really happy with a character he likes.
4:23 So not only is s-HP +1 on block up close, but if you notice here HE'S +2 DEPENDING ON WHERE IT HITS. That's some plus frame privilege right there. Us Ed mains could only wish for a plus-on-block normal. (s-HK doesn't count and we all know it)
That brief geif downplay was slick lol geif is very good now
Happy M. Bison day! 🎉
Bison's EX crusher can destroy EVERY PROJECTILE SUPER IN THE GAME, including Ed's and Rashid's Level 2. I fkd around and found out apparently. Never randomly throw those out against a Bison with some meter left, trust me!
I see the damage. I put the hat and the shoulder pads. I'm Bison main now.
I am finding hilarious the ways they justify otherwise villainous, amoral or brutal characters taking you in.
JP - Overall so nihilistic that he teaches you just for the sake of some vague interest/amusement because frankly all your efforts to get strong are pointless in his eyes.
Juri - Thought it was funny you copied her.
A.K.I - A reasonable sentiment on trying to help her- and having her own poison test dummy.
Akuma - Was bemused about you laughing off his beatdowns and decided to see how much more you could endure.
Biosn - His horse likes you.
Ur the best 👌 thank u for saving our time
Devs are pathetic for snap gief nerf
It just kick.
they clearly despise this character to hit the character they deliberatey made sure was TRASH with a nerf, fu capcom.
What are you talking about, that st.mk was winning the character sooo many majors , im glad they nerfed it finally
@@ultraheaven8968 one veteran player did well at one tournament and people whined and they nerfed it less then a month after they buffed it meanwhile Akuma sthp is one of the biggest bullshit normals ive ever seen in a modern SF game can rock all day, Lukes CMP terrorized the entire game for an entire year without nerfs and they barely touched it in the patches
Coming from honda and guile to bison gets some getting used too, i kept muscle memorying doing psycho crusher and devil reverse randomly
That Akuma and M.Bison back to back release was sexy.
Very sexy indeed.
Happy to see him turn out being good. More strong characters is awesome.
I love this character! Definitely my new main! Already had someone rage quit on me lol
headbutt distance wasn't a nerf. Honda needs to be closer to leverage his command grab. i also think scissors and headbutt aren't even in the same class of move. Scissors and HHS are closer equivalents. Bison needs CH or PC to combo from his advancing multi-hit move, while Honda does not.
The thing about the kick is checking the bisons spacing it still has to be positioned for safe spacing in a way like they’re going for the charge or at mid spacing. So when they’re walking back you could still see they’re setting up a safe spaced scissor kick
Excellent video. Could you do a how to play charge character video? Charge inputs scare a lot of people, myself included, but I’d love to hear your tips on how to approach it.
well you kinda just find the time to sneak in charge at all times. I'll have to think about that in terms of making that a viable video. I've been playing charge chars for over 30 years at this point so its sorta just natural for me lol
@@rooflemongerthanks for the tip! I’m working on it. My thumbs need to adjust to the new process. If you ever do make that video we’ll be here to watch it! Like we do for all your videos 😂
Are scissor kicks comparable to the headbutt? I feel like they're just different moves. Different input styles, different hitbox, different super cancels. Scissors into super reminds me of a shroyuken into super for the shotos, am I incorrect? I could be, I don't have a lot of experience in fighting games yet but from a noob POV the headbutt is a very different so it's not as comparable.
really surprised that they didn't make scissors way more negative on block and giving it a different use in gameplay strategy after changing it to be a motion. now it's a move designed around being a charge that isn't gated behind a charge and you can just throw out instantly, kinda crazy.
Raul Julia skin when?
I'll stick with the character only because of the animations and design. He's like a creepy Magneto, the horse stance looks sick, and the throw game, when you throw back and he does like a swipe kick into a chest kick that then throws you away is soooooooo cool.
I love the “heLLO and welCOME”
He does it so consistently lol
I wonder if scissor kick goes over juri fireball in addition to psycho crusher. That'd be awesome
Just as a thought, the mine would be cool as some kind of parry move, that sounds mean enough for Bison, it wouldn't be overpowered since you had to trigger it and it would kind of fit, get a little Geese into his gameplay.
13:18 id say headbutt has a more of a reward on hit than scissor kicks though *on regular hit lol counter scissors is super bison and i love it 😂
But it wasn't on Tuesday 😢
I had my first 20+ win streak today thanks to bison. What a character lol
I'm pleasantly surprised how much I like Bison just from training and running through arcade mode. I was going to play him for a while anyway because he's cool, but I wasn't sure if he'd be a character I'd want to stick with long-term. Sometimes you get the initial badass character/hot waifu hype and you end up not vibing with how they play. Fortunately, Bison's got the kind of belligerent stuff I can dig.
Luke, Ken, JP, Cammy, Guile, and DJ get 365 days of top tier tools and poor Gief gets a buffed from bottom middle tier to top middle tier for only 35 days then nerf SPD comes out of nowhere...Why are grapplers so disliked?
I think it because people hate making one mistake and boom 30%+ goes their life bar. They never consider what it takes for the grappler to get in, to even do that.
Hey rooflemonger!
hi!
I hope that this is man is a martial artist than the final boss dictator because I don’t want JP to be wasted. Plus I was expecting that bison will lose his memory for the entire game but I guess that he has his memory back
Well jp was shown as a subordinate of bison in bison’s world tour cutscene so I think it’s too late for him to be saved. I wish they would’ve kept the two somewhat separate from one another but still being aware of each other’s presence
@@KingJinzo2125 the separate part sounds like bison and Seth scenario, we need something new in my opinion. Plus JP becoming a financial for shadaloo again instead of a new dictator sounds like we went to cycle and it would’ve been better to have a better story like Luke Jamie and Kim are making a new generation
Bison's spasming back hand during idle really bothers me.
it makes perfect sense. Wait til you are older lol
@@rooflemonger That's _why_ it bothers me!
I like grapplers as much as you, but Bison can have what Honda lost because he doesn't have a Command Grab, he's allowed.
Thank you for standing up for the Honda mains. It's looking kinda bleak for us this season. Does Psycho Crusher stop when it's jumped over by the opposing character? Like the way they changed headbut to do? That would be the nail in the coffin for me.
14:10 lol need to hear that sound more
It's official, M. Bison is more unkillable than Heihachi Mishima.
That scissor kick looks ridiculous. Im hoping Mai is that cheese.
I was wondering if you had any advice for me. Sf6 is my first street fighter and I wanna pick up bison but I have a really hard time with charge characters. I play classic on keyboard, I’ve been thinking about getting a leverless controller like a hitbox but I’ve heard some people say just stick keyboard. Do you have any advice or video to help me get better at charge characters? And should I switch off of keyboard?
Honda's headbutt deleted a full bar of drive gauge. At least Bison does half that. But yea scissors is pretty good.
Wait. They gave him AND the horse different animations?
I played with him for an hour with my rental and I was able to place as Diamond 5 after my 10 matches. He can bait DPs... he is strong, but few really understand what to do with him. All the players I played were having no clues and that is including all skill levels.
They stopped marchmaking errors cancelling your search. That's a cery welcome change!
Not interested in the character, not likely to buy him... but I'll watch the hell out of the Rooflemonger vid!
I have the vid a 👍🏽 because I appreciate the channel but I hate these technical vids of Street Fighter coming from everywhere. They are informative and great for all the online competitors but breaking the game down to science and the jargon in the analysis just kills the fun for me but I'm old and will always prefer the old school way we're we just learned by playing blissfully ignorant to knowing about frames plus and negative on block reversal nerfed and buffed big buttons and hurt boxes etc just hey tried this it works doesn't work here or against this character so good don't do that here coz you could take lots of damage this move could get me out of a tight spot. Ahh. . back in the day, a more innocent time 😊 however you do it enjoy the fight guys 👍🏽
It's really hard not calling him S tier after watching Punk. I know Punk is the goat but still. Bison looked ridiculous.
Holy shit if ypu space stand heavy punch so the tip of the move hits, it’s even +2 4:44
The real strenght of Bison is that he can bait DP with stomps... did that numerous times... it is insanely good... INSANELY GOOD!
From my limited play of him this Bison just does not gel with me. Knee Press being motion makes the move feel flimsy and Light Psycho Crusher being slower than SF4 Heavy Psycho Crusher is a turn off for me.
Also, while it's awesome that we can control when or if we dive with Headstomp it feels awful that Devil Reverse takes a Kick button first.
And I can't get over that the Slide Sweep is Down Forward. I don't even think it slightly balances him compared to Dhalsim where his White Girl Sweep is Down Back because Bison can White Girl Sweep from Down Back too.
I wish they would add a Legacy Controls mode where you can choose to have Special Moves or applicable Command Normals use older inputs.
I love bisons crazy hand