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I dont watch the news. I watch Mogul mail.
Now that's a mogul move
the news isn't talking about this fella
Your mom watches Mogul mail
@@dooddoingstuff bro this comment goes crazy hard
me too, what does the news have > :( Mogul mail is better
ludwig was telepathically talking to me at the beginning
Here is a full clip : that explains
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whos ludwig Mogul Mail telepathically communicated to me
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This is mogul mail not ludwig
This is mogul mail
Twitch never fails to disappoint me
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Great Project guys
This isn't Twitch stopping paying streamers. This is Twitch actively trying to take money from Streamers for their own.
Not even for their own, this just stops generating that money for anybody
@@juampisito nah bc streamers have to plan more ad breaks to make up for the sponsors, then giving twitch more revenue from more of their placed ads being shown
@@yangkikhangsar885 The ghosts really gna be rolling in the cash for twitch
Lmfuckingao
Considering that the CEO just said in an interview that they don't care if large streamers leave because it'll drive viewers to smaller streams, this is completely on brand.
No one is on Twitch because they are Twitch fans. They go because they are [INSERT FAVORED CONTENT CREATOR] fans.
and that is where they are wrong... people (most of them) will follow the creator they love to watch... they don't give a F about Twitch... it is just a means to watch what they want... there are other places to watch without all this BS...
How braindead. Do they think if XQC leave the XQC viewers will just go watch some coomer with 1 viewer? This guy is a CEO of a company? Bro give me a company I could do better than this
@@LiLBitsDK Hard to say tbh, I think it's more of a situation where if the #1 streamer in a category leaves then maybe a few will follow, but a lot will just go to the next best thing (Most people at the #1 already have a decent UA-cam following). The problem with this change is that it's not going to just be #1, but possibly #1-30 as well. Whole organizations and groups leaving will do an insane amount of damage.
@LilBitsDK "there are other places to watch" where? Give me a few examples that match twitch in terms of functionality and reach.
If UA-cam don't use this time to grab a large amount of streamers, they're missing such a big opportunity
Why would they? Twitch is constantly shooting itself in the foot. Twitch streamers are always mad at the platform. Sooner or later, tons of streamers will move over without youtube having to drop millions on acquiring all of them.
@@zog6940 Or Kick
Buy the dip. Easy way to snag huge orgs. I'd be sending someone in person over to Zach and OTK to personally make a deal with them....Why would you not wanna take advantage of this?!
nah let the degenerates stay there
People don't know that twitch is not profitable and think that google would think this is an opportunity. Twitch is grasping at straws trying to make a larger profit just to break even on server costs, they will not make it in the long run anyway.
at this point Twitch is basically handing their entire audience and users to UA-cam on a silver platter
In retrospect Ludwig leaving Twitch for UA-cam was the best thing he's ever done
Twitch must scientifically formulate the worst possible decisions in a lab, they're so consistently good finding new ways to make their service worse
It's called corporate greed and a desire for exponential profit.
Yo its the guy that lost his sanity trying to get a weirdly colored Regieleki!
Same thing with blizzard
Its turning into Nintendo kinda
@@EingefrorenesEisentwitch bleeds money every year and they have been incrementally trying to make changes to make the bleeding less. This isn't corporate greed. People don't realize how much money it costs to support the infrastructure for on demand live streaming platform especially when 99% of their creators are costing them more than what they make for twitch
UA-cam should give the guys at Twitch that made this a raise
YOutube you are allowed to multistream twitch you cant anymore
Underrated comment 😆😆😆😆
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote:
"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will rule your life and you will call it Fate"
~ Carl Jung
ok
We need a huge streamer to do a charity stream that breaks the rules and then when twitch cracks down they will get even more back lash
Issue is: most big creators would not risk their channel being banned (or outright deleted) for this.
Hats off to the dude in the background who suited up and held a perfect flamingo pose for nearly 11 minutes straight :P
Oke, so it's real someone for you. Good job! You might need to buy some glasses to see it better.
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@@mrdummy_nl profile picture checks out
@@mrdummy_nl You must be fun at parties
@@mrdummy_nl I read your description, I think you might need some hearing aids to hear better
twitch has slowly gone from having a monopoly on the streaming world to now basically promoting and advocating for people to go to their rivals…
Twitch rivals tournament? Lol
rumble taking over
to be honest, twitch having a monopoly isn’t a good thing. Either way, more competition in the streaming space is a good thing no matter how that competition may arise from.
You know, they also allow you to upload recorded videos. And likewise, UA-cam allows you to stream videos.
Twitch has basically became a OnlyFans clone anyway.
Ludwig's change to UA-cam has aged like fine wine
And it's only been a couple of years, imagine what will happen in 5+ years.
He's killing it, honestly. Just on his main channel alone, he's got high numbers on long form content so that means he's good at retaining his audience in the long run, he still got high ccvs and viewership on streams, and his YT Shorts always gets pushed by the algorithm so he's funneling in more viewers by the day.
UA-cam are still assholes, but yeah, Twitch seems like a sinking ship.
@@Urd-Vidan basically UA-cam just do a minor make-up here and there while Twitch just fumble bigly. The amount of controversial policies they made just cement the thought to diversify even more now.
@@Urd-Vidan i mean UA-cam doesn't have the insensitive to be great, they just need to be better compared to twitch
@@Doofy1012 Dude don't just spam your videos under every comment
how have streamers not unionized yet? they literally have complete power over the product, and the time is right for change in the entertainment industry
No... unions are terrible. Case closed
@@kirbyscreativity "unions are terrible" what does that mean?
@@kirbyscreativity case reopened, explain yourself
Unions as a group aren’t anything. There are good (and bad) unions now and in the past. Let’s stop pretending the world isn’t nuanced
@@kirbyscreativity That's exactly what corporations want you think. Negotiating as a group gives you so much more power to make demands than if you do it by yourself. Corporations spend billions trying to stop people from unionizing in the US. Do you think they do that out of the kindness of their hearts? Maybe look at some countries that have strong unionization like the Scandinavian countries. Do they seem to have better or worse working conditions than the US?
Its funny that twitch is the perfect place for twitch to announce their new guidelines, like all they need to do is a live stream and answer questions
If UA-cam could manage to not have a horrible streaming feature then Twitch would have been done long ago, but now Twitch is just killing themselves
Honestly UA-cam streaming not that bad only chat but with the extension it is pretty much the same
nailed it
@@danzatas8107 wich extension? Thanks
It’s not bad
@@PepeGameSpot truffle I think
The best part is JSchlatt saying that the next move will be Twitch banning direct donations and forcing the viewers to use bits to donate instead. Which is prophetic to say the least.
Honestly shocked they haven't implemented this already.
Did they not try to implement something like this before? I remember some information got “leaked” about bits changes that everyone hated.
well they haven't done it yet, whats the point of this comment?
I mean he did have accurate predictions involving the royal family so anything is possible lol
@@k1n1ami18 Your comment is even more pointless
thank u for complimenting the illustrator for the infographic. they did good job hope they got paid well the bright light in all this
It’s really sad, because if twitch goes down, so do those small streamers. I love watching small streamers. I usually watch fall guys ones because they are very wholesome
Small streamers get nothing
Twitch is the AOL of streaming blowing a 10 Year lead.
Honestly, Tbf twitch doesn’t have non live stream content to back up and support the live streamed content like UA-cam, but still. How has UA-cam caught up so fast?
10 year load
Lmao it’s like Skype losing to zoom
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 Because Twitch has started to run into saturation issues in a format that they only dominated because no one else really cares about. They've done their growing so now they have to make their money and start to operate like a large company. I'm not surprised at all by these changes tbh (besides the logo one which is really weird). Reminder that we are just coming off the large controversy of streamers advertising gambling to their audience of kids that led to a ton of drama and even a new 'competitor' appearing.
I actually agree with Ludwig's 'charitable explanation' here tbh, considering Twitch would be annihilated if they actually attempted to enforce this fully. Seems more like a weapon they want to have in their arsenal more than anything to purge problematic advertising done by creators. Which is a very understandable desire for Twitch considering how dumb many streamers are with the advertisements they are willing to engage with.;
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 they actually care.
Twitch continues to assure ludwig he made the right decision when switching platforms
right or not youtube has its own bad things and lots of very bad things that they ignore i heard it is pretty much the same rules that twitch is adding
@@kyse2 No
@@AlInverson yes
@@kyse2 no
@@Pulko172 yes
ludwig pulling up brian kibler, MTG hall of famer, and saying “some guy on twitter” is hilarious
I like to think Brian would get a kick out of that
I figured he sounded familiar!
There's a post on Twitter stating that the "Simulcasting" rules were added to the ToS, implying it affects ALL users, including non Affiliate/Partners. Those that revoked their Aff/Partner to stream to Twitch and UA-cam at the same time are no longer allowed.
The reason Twitch has this new policy is because they’re trying to strong-arm streamers into accepting their new 50/50 contracts. If a Twitch streamer cannot outsource ad revenue, they become totally dependent on Twitch for their income. Then, all of the contract bargaining power goes to Twitch.
Please explain this less advanced
@@Iraxs if you can only buy ads from twitch, twitch decides how much money you earn.
@@_THM_ oh that’s dumb as hell cuz I’m about to be affiliated and when I am I hear this news 😢 hopefully people protest this so it changes but also I ain’t supprised twitch did this because there 100% a hard liberal company
@@Iraxs Extra less advanced: Twitch want more money.
@@Iraxs they basically dont want private sponsorships. They want sponsorships through Twitch so they can take a cut. Long story short, twitch wants more cut of your income.
Ludwig has finally transcended beyond the mortal realm to the point that he has acquired telepathy and can speak directly to people's minds.
just like charlie
Idk, there's so many sympathy about how this means that creators don't get the money, but in return, we get better quality content in the form of less spam Ads... What am I loosing out on?
@@acasccseea4434 You're losing out on creators wanting to go to work on twitch.
Vicy Notasurname Hmm... Streamers will be less likely to want to stream. How will this affect me watching streams 🤔?
UA-cam just needs to focus on making their streaming feature a lot better at this point to make twitch less of an option. Twitch currently wont die out because of its layout, because of its discoverability versus youtube's. Once UA-cam does that, twitch will slowly die out
Seriously, UA-cam would be so much ahead of the streaming curve if they just make UA-cam Live a much friendlier UI experience. But still pretty sure they're more worried about competing with TikTok with Shorts than competing with Twitch. I mean Drake streamed to Kick. So if there's ever a golden opportunity for UA-cam to take that next step. It's now.
I feel like that would be an issue too….UA-cam can be just as greedy as Twitch and if they become one of the only streaming platforms, they can just make the same awful decisions but without Twitch there will be nowhere to go.
Imagine if every business and developer was as transparent in their work as Coffee Stain Studios is
We know how Twitch operates. The rules will be applied equally, but some streamers are more equal than others.
@Danny Li no it's a direct reference to twitch's pay behavior
@@carlostaffanelly418 you're not very smart, are you?
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme I'm sorry for assuming a youtube commentor had a sub 90 IQ, I'll hop onto the stake myself
Comrad bear, we are all equal in communism. It is just that i'am a little bit more equal than you.
lmao I just had to do a personal response on animal farm for english
Crazy that Mogul Mail and Ludwig decided to grow a mustache at the same time
ludwig has never had original ideas, unlike mogul mail
BRO THIS JOKE ISNT FUNNY
See-Geeeee-Eyeeee
@@finallyitshere7410No life.
Come up with an original joke why dont you, this is getting old
I just really hope that twitch will get some competition soon (I guess Kick is closest). Because im tired of twitch doing whatever they want and not being scared of people leaving, because they know that people will come back...
God, it would be so crazy if the livestream platform did a live stream announcement
The problem is that Twitch can (and likely will) use this rule as an excuse to ban streamers that they personally don't like. Their track record is abhorrent, and I have no doubt that we'll continue to see more examples of unequal moderation in the coming years.
Absolutely 100% correct. Not even 99%, 100.
They've mass banned people for less than this. Some times for no reason at all.
I bet they'll let the pick me whores like alinity do whatever the hell they want and ban literally all the rest of them
this is where kick comes along, twitch is gonna make that site so popular
Forsen
Twitch and Reddit are in a war about who can make their products worse.
I can’t even figure out who’s winning
@Lucifer Morningstar 🅥 thanks so much
Reddit makes products (other than cosmetic outfits and stuff)?
@@Lil_Yuri they're basically axing all third party apps like Apollo or Reddit is fun
So true
I really enjoyed the most/least charitable take breakdown part, that was a great device and i hope it makes it into more mogul mails
You're right, this is a huge PR issue. If Twitch actually had a recent history of good changes, this wouldn't have been received so harshly.
Twitch destroying themselves, a never ending story…
Switching to UA-cam might’ve been the best decision you made
youtube nfts
ehhh, not with youtubes history.
@@MyAramil UA-cam rarely changes. They had the ad apocalypse, but that was years ago.
Yeah it's the best decision to get bot comments in the thread
What a great site.
After a week the same people are shitting on UA-cam again
this hurts all streamers really badly but it really hurts smaller streamers or streamers tht dont have a youtube following or following on another platform
For 1 i am happy it was so cut and dry just i also wish they went into depth with defining everything too. Much like the EULA they make us all agree to when making a twitch account. It tells you or used to tell you the rules in a legal text format. A format that has stood up in US court for being both informing the user of what they are agreeing to and short enough that users will actually read it. The Twitch stream guidelines i wish were put out in that format sometimes the 18 pages of legal text would be more informative then what seems to be gone through PR so many times there is hardly anything left to tell you what it is. So ppl will guess and many will guess wrong. Yeah i know the age of websites being pages of text is gone but for changes like this they should have done it that way. Not mostly images to show what they mean not mostly images to say it. Images are iffy and leave a lot up to interpretation words don't and i am sure Twitch Legal would be happy to write it in a business to business way that will stand up in EU court. As EU court is stricter than US court so writing it so it holds up in EU court will mean it will in US court. Now with images Twitch is hoping the companies who do streams for charity and what not do not get a strike for this as being brought to court over a unclear image will be up to the lawyers to decide what does this image mean legally. Thus why all text is always better when talking with and talking about sponsorships and advertising.
I like how his ventriloquist training finally starting to pay off right at the beginning of the video. Good job Lud.
@John Wick 🅥 you're better than this John
lmao, i didnt even notice
Dan Clancy (Twitch CEO) did an interview on Filian's stream literally 5 DAYS AGO where he said that Twitch would support their creators that don't have contracts by making it easier for them to take brand deals and sponsorships. And then these changes are announced less than a week later that totally destroy the chance of any sponsorship or brand deal for anyone.
he isnt wrong its easier to get sponsors served from a mittelmen ( in this case twitch that take a big cut out of it) then locking yourself for sponsors
Oh, this is what he meant. Whenever executives speak they are bullshitting. When he says “we’re making it easier for creators to take brand deals” he means “allowing creators to negotiate ad sales independently cuts us out and we want our share”. Their entire job is figuring out how to further fuck people over and word it positively.
Huh? Look at the options of getting sponsors with In twitch itself? There’s a freaking tab for it with many many options as well as bounty boards are much more in supply as well. Brand deals idk bout so cant as anything. Yes it’s all hidden but it’s there. But streamer has to be consistent tho
@@boines No company that pays worthwhile money is going to want to sponsor a streamer through Twitch if their advertising space is limited to 3% of the screen.
@@Benefits My understanding was that the ads through twitch is not subject to this stuff - part of the point is to push creators to give twitch a cut.
So nice for twitch to give youtube a chance to be the main site for streaming 😊👍
TY for making it short and simple without dragging the video on. Love Mogul Mail!!!
Loved the part where twitch made a rule change that the content creators are happy with. Truly a twitch moment of all time
Must've missed that part!
This feels like one of those situations where later on they rollback the logo and banner restrictions but keep the burned-in ad ban to make it seem like they are listening to feedback, all the while that was their plan the whole time.
"we have listened to both streamers and viewers and we are rolling back a few changes and making adjustments to..."
*rubs palms together* this was our plan all along.
@@ea_naseer thats what he said but with extra steps
@@ea_naseer ya but except for its not gonna work this time especially when they making it hard to make a living, no one gonna believe them anymore and not bother with the site, the very few will but mast majority wont even bother anymore
I think you're right
If that was planned it would be even dumber. Bad PR for pretty much nothing?
Just say that you are, similar to other plattforms (youtube wink wink), introducing xyz.
That coin flip gave Lud the biggest W ever 😂
Nick said he doesn’t watch mogul mail so this is my safe place to say he is a 14/10 such a handsome man
The Twitch CEO interview with Filian was super out of left field and I love that Ludwig knows about it
Softball PR for twitch with no upside for her, no idea why she agreed to it.
@@Toastybees Filian is a very optimistic person, she wanted to believe that they were trying to do good. They took advantage of her good nature which is kind of scummy.
it is unbelievable that twitch has made a suboptimal decision. simply unfathomable
suboptimal is a pretty forgiving stance here ngl
How COULD this happen? Unthinkable
@@samantharynn9683 I'm confused, doesn't this only matter for streamers? Why does everyone here care about this? You aren't getting brand deals lol
Oh no, the millionaires will make slightly less money now... it's sooo "suboptimal", everyone knows we all love those huge banners, I love consumerism sooooo much!
@@dffgffffffdddddddddd yesss suck on the boot heel more, your corpo overlords love it so
@@dffgffffffdddddddddd It's obviously not a good thing, streamers will get paid less and will have to make deal with smaller budget for events. Large events will be significantly less common on twitch, a lot of my favorite streamers will be affected by this change. I highly doubt that streamers will simply accept these new guidelines unless changes are made meaning some of them will leave twitch.
If you have drift on your Nintendo Switch Joycon, you can cut a piece of cardstock paper to fit in between the thumbpad and the battery connector. The drift is caused by a weak connection in the sticks because the plastic is too weak and the stick loses connection. A piece of a business card inside will help support the stick' connection. All you need is a tri-wing screwdriver and a business card to fix your drift. It might void warranty or something but it's worth not having drift on your sticks. I did it to all of my joycons and not a single one has drift now.
There's plenty of tutorials on UA-cam if you want to try it out.
10/10 worked for me and a few friends.
4:51 "somebody" is Brian Kibler, former hearthstone pro, and I think he still plays here and there. He does workout too on twitch I think. Great guy. Not a big streamer, so pretty cool to see him pop up, I watched him a bunch some years ago haha. :)
If only twitch had some sort of platform to have those announcements and add a human face to it all. And people could ask questions and chat about it. If only...
Good luck finding someone who wants to be the face.
oh yeah, 'questions and chat about it' that wont immediately devolve into death threats and rape threats lmao
@@MrGhostTheBigRoast based 😂
I think Twitch doesnt want to be the biggest streaming site anymore, but doesnt want to just go down at the same time
that makes Twitch insane. No normal company wants to fuck themselves over like that.
@@fm.burbank8461 yep.
4:58 Brian kibler is one of the greatest to pick up magic the gathering. A GOAT fersher.
Sounds like a good thing for viewers, ads can suck it.
Large Streamers are just upset they will theoretically make less money.
This is gonna hit critical role super hard if this goes through
Podcast format streams will be borked.
Oh damn you’re right
I wonder if that was their target all along…
GDQ too, they have so many midroll ads and sponsor images that are definitely above 3% of the screen. i would hate for this to cancel charity events like that
well critical role stream on twitch and youtube same time, so they just have to announce it on twitch side they moving to youtube
Twitch seems to have come to the bizarre conclusion that creators are their competition.
Unfortunately, they also restricted multi-streaming, from previously being affiliates and partners to the whole of Twitch now, limiting all streamers to their platform no matter their status.
The youtube guidelines prohibit Advertisor created ads, but the content creator can create the ad and run it if they are doing the voice-over/imagery themselves. You can't just (for example) run a commercial from Adidas directly as if it was a TV ad though.
Sometimes I think that Twitch actually cannot do anything else to surprise me, and then it just does
The gift that keeps on taking
Twitch is so impressive the way they seem to spit in the face of everyone of that uses their platform every couple of months.
@BanquetOfTheLeviathan fair point but twitch is still like THE BIGGEST streaming platform, and instead of letting the people who earn them money make money they try to pry that away 😭.
@BanquetOfTheLeviathan True, but most companies at least space out their awful decisions, Twitch just rapid fires them
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404
Ghost Ship Games/DRG crew.
@@InvadeNormandy ROCK AND STONE, TO THE BONE!
All of it makes sense to me - 3% makes sense, I'm there to watch the person not the stupid advert getting in the way of the viewing. - Pre-recorded it a bit hit or miss, but I get why, it's to regulate adverts per se somewhat.
The only thing I agree with is having to disclose if a product is sponsored
I bet the people that left twitch last year are happy they left before things went to shit
This scares me for streamer awards. Qt made the best event imaginable and it might be killed off by the platform that should be supporting her the most.
She'll just do what Lud did and host them on YT instead
Well maybe she should try doing it without ads
QT made an event because she was tired of RIGHTFULLY being overlooked, and ONLY managed to bring it forward because she dates the GUY who's video you decided to click on. QT will fall off the earth if they ever split, trust lol
@@nickutzig1157 this is such a smoothe brain take
@Gwizz1337 This is bait, right?
i got nothing to do with anything ludwig ever talks about but i deadass never skip a video 😂 the way he talks about things is just so good i feel like i cant miss out 😭
Fun fact for those of you who don't know and maybe even lud doesn't know. Brian Kibler, the author of one of the tweets showcased is a legend in the Magic: The Gathering scene and is in the hall of fame for competitive play
I think there might a different reason. Bigger streamers get so much money from sponsorships that they stop caring about internal monetization features like subs/bits and they stop incentivizing their viewers to use them. Maybe this is aimed to reign those streamers in a bit by making them more dependent on Twitch. I'm calling it: directly referencing external donation methods will be outlawed too in the near future.
Jup so twitch can f the streamers over even more
So twitch getting jealous of their bigger streamers and want the cake for themselves, typical
Sure and that makes sense. It's a business. But they're doing it backwards.
Make the sponsors have deals with you directly to allow them to sponsor someone, don't punish the streamer, use them to your advantage.
The streamer has an audience, the sponsor wants to reach that audience, who is the middleman? Twitch itself!!!
Honestly, when comparing this to UA-cam, the actual rules aren't great, but the clarity that they have put this forwards with is really respectable. I don't agree with the things that are banned, but compared to the vague handwaving and random prosecution of UA-cam guidelines, i think i prefer this kind of communication.
I mean, do you really think Twitch enforces their rules in any more of a reasonable way than UA-cam? Hell no. Both platforms punish people willy nilly and ignore creators who blatantly break the rules. Nor do they ever bother to explain why they cherry pick specific people to punish above blatantly worse offenders.
that's because people are forgetting that UA-cam doesn't sell sponsorship deals. Ludwig's ads aren't mid rolls in the UA-cam sense but branded integrations, UA-cam doesn't sell those so it's allowed.
try to put an adsense competitor in a UA-cam video and that will be banned.
@@TheSkcube Right, I read the rule as banning automated ad integration. So, just throwing a random drug commercial in the middle of your video, like network television does, would be against the rules, but doing an ad read is fine, since that's an integrated part of the content.
@@justsomeredspy more precisely any adsense competitor would not be allowed on the UA-cam platform, as that would be seen as circumventing UA-cam's adsense platform, in the mediums that UA-cam uses.
For example, you can use an adsense competitor to gather affilliate links. You can strike a deal with a talent agency to arrange brand deals for you. All these are allowed as they don't compete with UA-cam.
The burned in display ads and audio ads are stupid, but the rest are fine and will definitely improve my time on twitch as a viewer. It is A PROBLEM that streamers and brands are starting to treat twitch like television, it is not and it should not be. 3% is a perfect size, maybe a little bit bigger, but you're overreacting about it. There's a small percentage of people that actually stream and will affect them and twitter is going crazy as usual.
I can definitely understand how this affects businesses and streamers, and I agree. However I also welcome limiting intrusive advertising when there's already annoying ads on the platform itself, and then my favourite personality is throwing yet another ad at me so that they can make money outside of twitch. I kind of agree both sides but that could be unique to me.
*Next month:* Twitch now has fewer streamers.
*Twitch:* But where did we go wrong?!!??!!
You watch OTHER people play video games. Your opinion like this comment are irrelevant. You NPC.
the thing that blows my mind is that twitch, a livestreaming platform, does NOT livestream any of this stuff.
they could EASILY just go live once a month for an hour or two and talk about this stuff
Bro they would get eaten alive, and that format is only good for receiving and debating feedback, twitch doesnt do that. Ever.
@@ironboundfate but a video based platform that hides all their changes... well somewhere... makes no sense.
they dont need to deal with feedback, but a monthly address livestreamed to the platform going over changes just seems like an obvious choice. right now the average person has no idea whats going on with the platform, and that information is not intuitive to find, which makes the whole thing feel shady
@@emi9643 I fully agree that a company with a good pipeline of information and an actively shown interest in the use of their own product would be great. But as you know by now twitch corporate is just shady, its been non-stop shit bagging for well over 5 years now with their decisions around the platform.
The thing with the League ad is that is one was/is for PrimeGaming, aka Twitch/Amazonas own ad. So this they Will aloe. But League also dies those with other brands in the same spot. Fex Red Bull. And League also have the Red Bull PowerPlay “ad”
the rules seems reasonable to me...
there is still plenty of wiggle room for sponsor content...
just not pre-recorded ones since that will be cutting into the platform's domain...
it doesn't block you from doing well rehearse performance on stream...
also doesn't block you from using physical props... which really can be a work around for overlays really...
Never seen a company this committed to failure
Thank you for breaking this down. A tiny bit that I want to add is that there are no more/less charitable takes on this.
When a rule is officially announced in the ToS it can be enforced at any point in time and is already in effect, meaning if you choose to violate it you are living on thin ice. It's a pretty stressful state. That's the same for both Twitch and UA-cam.
They gonna enforce it on small creators. Because they know that they cant afford a platform change that easily. First a warning, making sure they comply and if they dont they'll get banned for a week or something. In the end Twitch wants everyone to stay AND stream in accordance to these guidelines.
It's likely a step towards a larger plan. For example only allow adds that they approve and or get a cut from. Cause all things considered this change by itself doesn't seem bad for the viewer. Great only a small portion can get filled up with adds that positive, it's good they take control of it, but you'll never know their next step.
I think the 3% is a good number because if a sponsor has a logo for me to display that's like 15% of the screen my content will barely be visible
Twitch isn't pregnant, but never fails to deliver. Deliver dogsh*t
get this man to top
Never heard this expression before, and it's fantastic
if this goes through, youtube, kick and rumble will try to swoop in for the biggest creators. which would be a massive shift and i can’t wait to see what happens.
I kinda agree on the burned in ads bit. Its meant to be a stremaing site and it interrupts the streams. The 3% stuff is total crap though.
Edit: overlays or "display ads" I think should be fine to be clear
It's ironic that just the other day I randomly thought to myself "damn twitch hasn't done anything too controversial in a while" and now here we are
Ludwigs mustache talk brought him back from being frozen
The fact that you give a solution makes it a way better take! You make great formal content!
I feel like it’s twitch’s way to help the viewers by telling content creators to stop crowding their screens with ads, because if it were really about ad revenue being taken from twitch they’d ban all ads.
As for the UA-cam burn in ad thing, it’s only if you monetize your videos and run a burn in ad I’m pretty sure.
As for the sponsor disclosure that’s a US advertising law saying you must disclose product affiliation and sponsorships.
The problem is that if twitch dies UA-cam suddenly won’t have a big competitor and might not try to improve their streaming platform as much.
Ludwig reading a tweet from Brian Kibler is the most unexpected MTG x Mogul Moves universes crossover. What a time to be alive.
When he called him "some guy named brian" I had to pause and laugh. Shoutout Elon for ruining twitter otherwise Lud might have know Brian Kibler is a big MTG / Hearthstone streamer
literally whiplash
sure that is not Kyle Hill????
Thank you for the update. I really hope that the more charitable interpretation is the reality we see as this unfolds.
I think that the compatable youtube ads is flexible because of the "comparable" wording. You can argue that since it is the creator making the ad, it is not comparable as can fall under creative work and thus can be argued it is not only an ad but a creative expression of the artist themselves.
Now, if you start rolling a TV commercial ad, like youtube does, then they might hut you with a violation. The ads were the youtuber acts it out for a sponsor are allowed because it is specific to said youtuber.
Banners I have no idea. UA-cam dors sonrthing like that already.
the 3% logo thing feels like a great idea except for sponsored streams. if ad revenue is essential to running those big events not the best move on twitch's part but on an individual stream there feels like there's a line between solely selling people content and solely selling people a brand that twitch is balancing on, and at least for this it feels like twitch is trying to make their platform more viewer-oriented by moving more towards that content-centric model. the space those 3% ads take up on the screen is not as big of an issue as it feels like ludwig is trying to make it, the ad is just an ad. like the focus is to create content, not to sell as many brands as possible. if this alone genuinely and heavily impacts creator's revenue streams then twitch needs to fix some bigger problems. positive change in most cases imo. for the burn-in ads, yeah it just feels like twitch is trying to cart over its' creator's brand deals over to its management to get a cut of it. from a viewer perspective this is nice because less ads but from every other perspective it's a scummy and see-through business practice
The move is looking better and better with every twitch announcement.
For someone that ditched Twitch for good ol' UA-cam you seem to know more about the site than people who stream there.
Im just happy to get my dose of the Mail of Moguls.
Because of his persona, it's easy to forget Ludwig is one of the most professional streamer out there, always keeping a keen eye on all aspects of the streaming / content creation industry.
Tbf it is kinda his job to know
tbh i kinda agree with the 3% size of ads. maybe make a little bit bigger but i really tired of seeing a tons of banners on the screen that overlaps content.
Twitch is like the mother that abuses you and says she does it because she loves you
Yeah, this shit hurts.
This is why I don't stream on Twitch anymore. Nothing good happens on Twitch.
how tf are you verified
@@RyBrown paid for it with moms credit card
I got a midroll ad when you said "here is a baked-in midroll ad" 💀
I have to wonder how that affects professional esports streams. Nearly every stream I watch runs burned-in video ads for the sponsors of the event...
Seems like twitch is doing everything in their power to get people to leave
I actually completely understand them wanting these rules in place, but it seems like the kinda thing you should do from the start, or not at all. It's too far along to make this change without creating insane turbulence.
Incrementalism is what you are searching for. Make it worse incrementaly. Just like UA-cam. First month 1 more ad, second month 2 more ads...
So first introduce one thing thats banned, then add another thing and so on.
Thats psychology that makes the streamers stay on your platform but Twitch is apparently run by a bunch of psychopathic megalomaniacs...