NOTES FROM VIDEO - GENERAL 1. Results of good forestry management: * In an upland setting you should have a sale every 20-25 years * In a low land setting, you should have a sale every 10 15 years 2. Stewardship is important. You'll offer good wildlife habitat and leave it better than you found it when you leave this world. I'm a Christian, I think we should be good stewards. It's important to me. 1. In general, trees that are smaller is not as enticing a bid for loggers as one with fewer, larger trees. So marking lots of 20” diameter trees to get a 300 board foot tree are not as interesting to a buyer as 24” trees. 2. The high dollar buyers are not interested in small jobs. They have fixed costs bringing the equipment out here, labor costs, workers comp… that they don't want to drag small sticks, they want to drag Big Trees. If they can get them on flatlands, it’s preferable. Slopes are hard to work. 3. The timber broker will tell you the average volume per tree and total number board footage of that species. 4. The loggers want to see no averages less than 280 foot…. ideally they want 300 foot or more board foot tree average. That gets their attention, it gets them excited. (This could be regional standard; presumably, every state has its own market, but it gives you a baseline idea. This was for Illinois). 5. Sunlight hits North and South slopes at different significantly different angles so the North facing slope will average 3-4 degrees cooler than the South slope resulting in better hardwood trees. North slope will typically have richer soils (with Northern Red Oak, White Oak, more valuable species.) The south slope is rocky, has shallower the soil, thanks to pioneers who tilled it causing severe soil loss, resulting in slower growth and less potential. You're going to get Post Oak, Blackjack Oak, Black Oak, Hickory-the less valuable trees. For restoration, plant pine where there’s bad erosion; it will help to rebuild the soil and break up the soil profile. 6. Use the digital OnX Hunt app to mark trees and stay well within property boundaries. We don't want to get too close to the property line because the value of the tree that you're marking is probably not worth the cost and litigation if you have a boundary dispute plus you don't want bad relations with your neighbors. 7. Prior to the OnX Hunt app you had to use a compass, an aerial photograph, and a day or two marking your boundaries after you had to found some defined property line to start at which could be a long way off. But this is very accurate- it shows you your location and the property lines. 8. A good timber broker is glad that the landowner is walking the land with him. “I always like to have land owner’s presence because I'm not the tale that wags a dog. It's your timber you're under no obligation. You tell me about your management goals are and your objectives then we'll mark accordingly. Stewardship is a big part of what I do. I'm going to be 70 years old this summer, and I want to try to make things better. Through good selective timber harvest, you can do that. “ 9. WALNUT TREES 1. The most valuable wood in Illinois is Walnut but people will come from far away for white oak. Walnut is the cocaine that makes us go crazy. 2. To be veneer it has to be Flawless wood - that means no knots it has to be the perfect grain, nothing metallic; some people put nails in trees we've seen out here in the years past where deer stands where you see old fence roll wire in that root… you can't get veneer from that. 3. In today’s market Pin Oaks bring the sale 25 to 30 cents per board foot…Whereas Walnut can go $12, $14, $15. Veneer is worth 40x more. There was one walnut log sold in Illinois two years ago where the buyer came to buy that one tree. They paid $40k for one premium tree. In 1992 there was a 140’ walnut that got shipped to London - they chucked it in a giant lathe, spin it around and peel off a real thin layer so that one log to make gobs and gobs of veneer. 4. One guy offered my client $20k for his Walnut load but I got him $92k. 5. The young 18 inch walnut tree over there is just hitting its stride and it’s really going to perform. It would bring you maybe $40-50 today, but if you wait ten years that tree could be $500-1000; That is 100% annual return every year for 10 years. You can't beat it in the bank. It's making you more money here than you'll ever make in any investment.
Wish I had this man when I logged last year, so much knowledge. And like him a tree fell on me but three weeks ago, shoulda died too. To windy for the chopper so I went by ambulance. God saved me. Be safe guys
Keep up the timber videos Kapper. I could listen to this man talk for hours. This is some great information, thanks for sharing. Keep up the great work. Really enjoying this series.
Thank you much appreciated! Please share it if you don't mind, we have to achieve 1,000 subscribers before too long! This is great stuff for sure! Have a good one thanks again
Well at this point we declined to do a select timber harvest for a number of reasons. But I hope to have them back at least once, but maybe for fun! After the new road system is finished I think we are going to have a trail ride and fun day and I'll for sure invite these guys to join us! Thanks
Imagine how great the country would be if all our politicians were as honest and trustworthy as that man, he should be considered a national treasure .
@@jimsonjohnson3761 from what I gathered he harvests mature trees selectively that would eventually fall down while giving the other trees a chance to grow , his land management skills are sound.
No doubt!! I've been trying to soak it all in from this team over the last 2 land visits and other communications! They sure know their stuff about the woods and some history! Thanks! Please share it if you like it! Thanks
It’s really rare to see a video like this these days, but this is hands down one of the best ones I’ve ever seen. He has such knowledge about forestry, and I could listen to him talk for hours. I'm from Southern Illinois and would love to meet him. He’s not just smart and experienced, he’s also honorable, which is something that we don't see enough of. He’s truly committed to protecting the earth for future generations, Respect! Honest to the core.
Yes I totally agree! It was such a treat to hear all of this!! He respected the earth more than the dollar and that was refreshing! Unfortunately I think the guys that bought it may log it hard.. Honestly I wish more 'conservation' type folks would buy land just to preserve it! Thank you
I wish this man was in WV! It was advised by the Realtor I purchased my land from to contact a Forester for tax purposes and especially to manage my forest. I was worried someone would come in and cut all our big trees.... You know, not understanding it all. This was the best video ever! Now I know what to look for when hiring a Forester! I so appreciate this video and what a great Forester for terrific information!
This man is damn good at this job. Hope he’s written this stuff down for those behind to learn. He is definitely full of knowledge and we need more like him
We learned many ways toncut trees down and how to relieve the limbs from tension by making cuts in it. Every cut you make is going to determine if you live or die. Be careful and look at all the trees around you and look for widow makers and make sure you clean out your escape route and make it at a 45 degree angle when you run away from the tree when its falling. Always run dont walk away and keep your head up watching for limbs flying threw the air. Make sure you wait ling enough so all the limbs are done falling
I am enjoying this video very much! I am in central Missouri, and I am dealing with a lot of the same issues on my land that they have here. I too have thin soil, a south facing slope and old fence lines nailed to trees. I am eager to make improvements though! Anything I do will make the land better!
Great to hear! yeah our new Ozarks farm was in poor condition overall. This year I started with food plot clearings, food plots and a few watering ponds. It needs loads of timber stand work too, but one project at a time. Best of luck with your land! Take care
Thanks man! What, my mega edited awesome machine project just don't rate I guess!!?? LOL (kidding!). Yeah these guys are DA BOSS when it comes to woodlands!
This is by far a very intelligent man and very humble I beleave I have found the job I want I'll only hope to have the knowledge kap has someday thanks for the teaching
Well I might not be the brightest bulb but I do reach out to, and gravitate towards others who are very smart in what they do, and whatever topic we are engaging in at the time! Hoping some of that might rub off on me! :) Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks! While I may not be the smartest person in the room I do strive to reach out to those who are smarter in their fields of endeavors!! Have a good one
I wish I knew this. I have a man doing 50/50 and it’s all white oak. They hauled a load of 21 logs for 8080 total. 4040 for me. But it was a basic slip of sale. No separation of grade of logs.
Excellent video I've been looking for a video like this kind of detail for a while I hope I can find a consultant like this man in my area thanks for sharing this
yeah it sure was! Man, you guys should consider getting a group of your buddies together this is another once in a lifetime property!! Just stunning and HUGE deer hunting potential. Thanks Gary!
Does this gentleman do this for a living and what areas does he do? Looking at a property in KY and DESPERATELY need somebody with his type of skills to help assess the timber!!
Hey Terry! Hope all is well buddy! Belated Merry Christmas, and best wishes for the new year! We had enough of IL we finally made the move across the river into Missouri! Best of luck to you and yours! Thanks.
@@KapperOutdoors2.0 Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Still getting contacts on the video you posted. We should do another one. I'd be glad to come your way. Take care.
Interesting episode on the timber selection/harvesting process. I hear there could be a severe weather outbreak for a wide area from KY, IL, WI for Friday. Take care.
I have 6 big walnuts like the one he pointed out with the nails. the used the trees as a barb wire fence post way back in the day. makes me cry. we will be doing another select cut in two years. so far we have at least 30 big green or blue ash trees left.. we do get some death every other year or so. but lots of baby ash trees growing.
I made a pick axe handle out of an old tree. It was really fun to be so resourceful. It looks good, but I'm not so sure how good it will last. I should at least have something for a few swings.
My friend made an agreement with a logger. The logger came into his woods and ended up moving one of the paint marks on the stump. Some loggers spoil the image of loggers in general. This gentleman appears to be a professional forester.
Yeah, he was great. We need all the knowledge from his generation that we can get...I just have a trust but verify policy. Probably more of a me issue than a him issue.
This gentleman is why I support a college path before employment…he is a perfect example of what happens when education gains a life of experience…does he write books?…I’d love to read his thoughts and ideas…
I could not find one buyer to come and select cut my timber a few years ago. I have 80 acres, but they all said it was too small and their equipment so large that they only clear cut, so.... I clear cut and not so much as by choice either. SE Arkansas. Wish this guy had lived close to me, Smart Man!
I just planted a bunch of white pine on my south facing sloped property. Along with hickory, maple, and walnut, they should add alot to the wildlife value to my land.
I sure Hope this gentleman is still around, praise be... Does he still have a website? I'd be interested to know. Favor of reply requested. Thank You. !!
Really enjoyed your video. What is the name of your profession called? My brother has a good amount of white oak in lower middle Tennessee. He would need someone like you to examine his trees. Who or what should he look for? Thanks
You'd need a good forester to assess and mark timber like this. A logger alone can run you afoul. But a forester and/or forester-timber broker will be worth their fee in gold! Best of luck!
wow!!! that was awesome.... i wish he was in Ohio.... i have land that butts up to the Shawnee State Forest and i have some good size timber on 57 acres jeff
yeah, extremely knowledgeable after so many years in the woods!! I bet he could go on for hours and hours with all kinds of very unique lessons about the woods!
My uncle has a lot of land in north west Washington and has told me by having a company come in, to thin out his property has paid for him to be able to buy up more.
Being a Sawyer you have to know what you are cutting. You could loose money if you make the wrong cutts. You have to think like a grader by looking at the tree and getting the best log you can out of the tree. Also dropping them you could have a fork in the limbs and if you dont drop it right it will spit the log. You have to lay both limbs on the ground. If you drop it on just one it will spit it. He have saw classes we had to do and we t threw everything to know how to cut safe and know how to make the safest way to drop it and how to watch for widow makers and everything else. Always keep your thimb wrapped around the handle so it can not kick out of your hand. There is a lot to know about being a Sawyer. What you cut is going to make the most out of the tree. I loved working in the woods. Its very Dangerous thow many people have been killed doing this.
I imagine what this old fella could do with GPS technology,it would stop poaching from unscrupulous loggers. That tech and his brains would be the best of both worlds.
I don't know how I survived my youth with this level of ADHD. I can get away with it as a retiree. To sort information is a decadent pleasure ! I may have ignored hours worth of productive work to do this. I hope someone out there takes some benefit/pleasure in it !
Don’t know why I’m seeing a year old video but I enjoyed this fella! He is a wise man that cares about our timber here in IL. I would like to get ahold of him. Do you have his contact info?
If you email me I can get it to you: kapper@kapperoutdoors.com Otherwise you can look up Michael Brenner Forestrty here in Southern IL and he can hook you up also. Thanks
I live in the Menominee Indian Reservation in Wisconsin. I live across the road from our mill. MTE is the name of our mill. We have the best logging around. We mever cut in the same place we cant go back forn 50nyears i think it is. We tale care of our forest and have beautiful trees check it out there are videos about our mill and logging. I was a Sawyer most of my life. Our mill donated logs for the final 4 march madness floors there is videos of that on UA-cam also
I grew up near a huge timber in kansas that my dad bought when I was a teenager. He grew up hunting it because he lived near it an knew the owners. He said it used to be solid huge beautiful red oaks but when he was a kid they came in and cut all of them out not leaving anything of any size. It is still 90% tall spindly hackberrys. Kinda like the "thicket" he described when he warned about some loggers that will come in and cut everything down. It makes me sick because i know what it would've looked like as there is a smaller timber across the river thats never been logged. Its absolutely full of the most beautiful straight tall oaks youve ever seen. It would make a logger drool. I wish somehow i could transform our timber into oaks again but the canopy of hackberrys would have to be cleared and im not sure new oaks would grow very fast because of how dry all the competing trees leave the soil. I wish i could have someone help advise me on the best plan because it could be something amazing again for my son or grandson someday.
Years ago. I cut a bunch of select grade spruce. My scaler came upon the the next stick up the tree that had a single limb. He said roll your logs so the limb is down. I can’t down grade what I don’t see. The logs were going to Japan in the early 90’s. Will never forget what he said. Let’s let them “Harbor Bombers” pay. What came to mind was pulling those nails and running a metal detector over the trees and waiting ten years. If they are going to china. Let em pay
You can contact Michael Brenner forestry in Southern Illinois. I think he should have a public number. Then he can put you in touch with him, I believe he is Michael's uncle maybe or some type of relative.
TERRY’s PERSONAL INJURY = a reminder that loggers do dangerous work and deserve their pay. * a tree fall on me 13 years ago * they put me in a helicopter * I should have died * I was in hospital bed for 90 days * on ventilator five days * Countless surgeries * my left boot was by my cheek- with my foot in it * My right boot was as bad behind me * I have a rod and two plates (points to legs) * and a plate in my back * and crushed my rib cage * anyway, long story short, I don't do any walking if I don't have to. (Terry speaks while on an ATV)
NOTES FROM VIDEO - GENERAL
1. Results of good forestry management:
* In an upland setting you should have a sale every 20-25 years
* In a low land setting, you should have a sale every 10 15 years
2. Stewardship is important. You'll offer good wildlife habitat and leave it better than you found it when you leave this world. I'm a Christian, I think we should be good stewards. It's important to me.
1. In general, trees that are smaller is not as enticing a bid for loggers as one with fewer, larger trees. So marking lots of 20” diameter trees to get a 300 board foot tree are not as interesting to a buyer as 24” trees.
2. The high dollar buyers are not interested in small jobs. They have fixed costs bringing the equipment out here, labor costs, workers comp… that they don't want to drag small sticks, they want to drag Big Trees. If they can get them on flatlands, it’s preferable. Slopes are hard to work.
3. The timber broker will tell you the average volume per tree and total number board footage of that species.
4. The loggers want to see no averages less than 280 foot…. ideally they want 300 foot or more board foot tree average. That gets their attention, it gets them excited. (This could be regional standard; presumably, every state has its own market, but it gives you a baseline idea. This was for Illinois).
5. Sunlight hits North and South slopes at different significantly different angles so the North facing slope will average 3-4 degrees cooler than the South slope resulting in better hardwood trees. North slope will typically have richer soils (with Northern Red Oak, White Oak, more valuable species.) The south slope is rocky, has shallower the soil, thanks to pioneers who tilled it causing severe soil loss, resulting in slower growth and less potential. You're going to get Post Oak, Blackjack Oak, Black Oak, Hickory-the less valuable trees. For restoration, plant pine where there’s bad erosion; it will help to rebuild the soil and break up the soil profile.
6. Use the digital OnX Hunt app to mark trees and stay well within property boundaries. We don't want to get too close to the property line because the value of the tree that you're marking is probably not worth the cost and litigation if you have a boundary dispute plus you don't want bad relations with your neighbors.
7. Prior to the OnX Hunt app you had to use a compass, an aerial photograph, and a day or two marking your boundaries after you had to found some defined property line to start at which could be a long way off. But this is very accurate- it shows you your location and the property lines.
8. A good timber broker is glad that the landowner is walking the land with him. “I always like to have land owner’s presence because I'm not the tale that wags a dog. It's your timber you're under no obligation. You tell me about your management goals are and your objectives then we'll mark accordingly. Stewardship is a big part of what I do. I'm going to be 70 years old this summer, and I want to try to make things better. Through good selective timber harvest, you can do that. “
9. WALNUT TREES
1. The most valuable wood in Illinois is Walnut but people will come from far away for white oak. Walnut is the cocaine that makes us go crazy.
2. To be veneer it has to be Flawless wood - that means no knots it has to be the perfect grain, nothing metallic; some people put nails in trees we've seen out here in the years past where deer stands where you see old fence roll wire in that root… you can't get veneer from that.
3. In today’s market Pin Oaks bring the sale 25 to 30 cents per board foot…Whereas Walnut can go $12, $14, $15. Veneer is worth 40x more. There was one walnut log sold in Illinois two years ago where the buyer came to buy that one tree. They paid $40k for one premium tree. In 1992 there was a 140’ walnut that got shipped to London - they chucked it in a giant lathe, spin it around and peel off a real thin layer so that one log to make gobs and gobs of veneer.
4. One guy offered my client $20k for his Walnut load but I got him $92k.
5. The young 18 inch walnut tree over there is just hitting its stride and it’s really going to perform. It would bring you maybe $40-50 today, but if you wait ten years that tree could be $500-1000; That is 100% annual return every year for 10 years. You can't beat it in the bank. It's making you more money here than you'll ever make in any investment.
Wish I had this man when I logged last year, so much knowledge. And like him a tree fell on me but three weeks ago, shoulda died too. To windy for the chopper so I went by ambulance. God saved me. Be safe guys
Wow! Glad to hear you are alive and above ground! Thanks and take care! We learned a ton with these guys!
Don't cut trees when it is too windy
Ashe trees on my place are dying faster than we can cut them
Who is this guy? One of the reason we never thought about logging is due to the destruction they leave behind.
Evidently they don't want to give out this guys name!
Great video Kapper. Good education from a super trustworthy logger. If I had land to cut, I would be lucky to find someone who seems so honest.
Thank you, these days it is hard to find old school principles and honesty!!
Who is he ? And what states does he work in?
@@KapperOutdoors2.0 Please feel free to post my number. I will travel to other states.
For future generations, I hope we have fine people following in his footsteps.
Keep up the timber videos Kapper. I could listen to this man talk for hours. This is some great information, thanks for sharing. Keep up the great work. Really enjoying this series.
Thank you much appreciated! Please share it if you don't mind, we have to achieve 1,000 subscribers before too long! This is great stuff for sure! Have a good one thanks again
It' a pleasure to listen to the experience and wisdom from Americans like this gentleman! Thank You for posting this valuable video!
I enjoyed listening to him. I hope to see him again in your videos.
Well at this point we declined to do a select timber harvest for a number of reasons. But I hope to have them back at least once, but maybe for fun! After the new road system is finished I think we are going to have a trail ride and fun day and I'll for sure invite these guys to join us! Thanks
Imagine how great the country would be if all our politicians were as honest and trustworthy as that man, he should be considered a national treasure .
You'd also have no trees left
@@jimsonjohnson3761 from what I gathered he harvests mature trees selectively that would eventually fall down while giving the other trees a chance to grow , his land management skills are sound.
The old timer rocks! I learned a lot by just watching this Thanks Kapper. Randy from WI. with 80 of myself
No doubt!! I've been trying to soak it all in from this team over the last 2 land visits and other communications! They sure know their stuff about the woods and some history! Thanks! Please share it if you like it! Thanks
Yhea he knows his shit 4sure
this guy is type of man i respect
Excellent video, Kap. Thanks for taking the time to record this for us.
My pleasure! This was fantastic and such another good life learning experience! Thanks
It’s really rare to see a video like this these days, but this is hands down one of the best ones I’ve ever seen. He has such knowledge about forestry, and I could listen to him talk for hours. I'm from Southern Illinois and would love to meet him. He’s not just smart and experienced, he’s also honorable, which is something that we don't see enough of. He’s truly committed to protecting the earth for future generations, Respect! Honest to the core.
Yes I totally agree! It was such a treat to hear all of this!! He respected the earth more than the dollar and that was refreshing! Unfortunately I think the guys that bought it may log it hard.. Honestly I wish more 'conservation' type folks would buy land just to preserve it! Thank you
I wish this man was in WV! It was advised by the Realtor I purchased my land from to contact a Forester for tax purposes and especially to manage my forest. I was worried someone would come in and cut all our big trees.... You know, not understanding it all. This was the best video ever! Now I know what to look for when hiring a Forester! I so appreciate this video and what a great Forester for terrific information!
Contact WVDOF and they can help you develop a management plan for your property
WOW 😮 great information, 10% not bad for someone protecting you, wild life and future owner
Exactly!
Really appreciate a fellow like this--comprehensive knowledge, competence, communication, and ethics.
wow, best vid yet . you need more of this guy on here in the future. keep them coming.
yeah it was a great experience for sure, thanks!
This man is damn good at this job. Hope he’s written this stuff down for those behind to learn. He is definitely full of knowledge and we need more like him
I agree. It would be nice if a younger man/woman wanted to learn it all from him!
I wish I could have mentored under a guy like this earlier in life. True wealth of knowledge and experience.
Yep I would agree with that. A wealth of knowledge!
Great video! That guy really knew what he was talking about!
you bet, no doubt! These guys know woodlands like the back of their hands! Great guys to work with for sure! Thanks
Incredible Video
We learned many ways toncut trees down and how to relieve the limbs from tension by making cuts in it. Every cut you make is going to determine if you live or die. Be careful and look at all the trees around you and look for widow makers and make sure you clean out your escape route and make it at a 45 degree angle when you run away from the tree when its falling. Always run dont walk away and keep your head up watching for limbs flying threw the air. Make sure you wait ling enough so all the limbs are done falling
A whole added approach to land management. That guy was good!❤
Yeah no doubt for sure! I learned a ton over the 2 visits we've had and all the communications in-between!! Thanks
God bless this man! The definition of an 'expert in their field'. Wow! Amazing!!
Thanks, it was a treat to have him out to help to educate us!
Professor, Christian - wonderful experience listening. Thank you, Kap. God bless. TFS
Yes this stuff we very interesting and educational for sure!!
I just hope this gentleman is teaching someone his skills. Amazing knowledge!!
As a college trained forester and tree surgeon this man knows his Dendrology 👏🏻!!
It was a pleasure listening and trying to soak it all in! Thanks
That gentleman is a wealth of knowledge. 10% is a small price to pay
YEP he sure is. We decided not to log the property.
There is this same guy just like him here in north georgia. Been in timber all his life and knows his stuff. Good friend of mine it's his dad
What a great forester, good honest man.
I am enjoying this video very much! I am in central Missouri, and I am dealing with a lot of the same issues on my land that they have here. I too have thin soil, a south facing slope and old fence lines nailed to trees. I am eager to make improvements though! Anything I do will make the land better!
Great to hear! yeah our new Ozarks farm was in poor condition overall. This year I started with food plot clearings, food plots and a few watering ponds. It needs loads of timber stand work too, but one project at a time. Best of luck with your land! Take care
Great informational video! Learned a lot. Thanks Kapper!
Glad to hear it! You and me both! I am trying to soak in as much as I can from these guys!
Brilliant discussion-a joy to see an expert in action … could watch for hours !
Thanks, yes it was a real treat to take all of this info in!!
Great info Kap, one of your best videos!
Thanks man! What, my mega edited awesome machine project just don't rate I guess!!?? LOL (kidding!). Yeah these guys are DA BOSS when it comes to woodlands!
This gentleman knows the tree values
This was fascinating. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is by far a very intelligent man and very humble I beleave I have found the job I want I'll only hope to have the knowledge kap has someday thanks for the teaching
Well I might not be the brightest bulb but I do reach out to, and gravitate towards others who are very smart in what they do, and whatever topic we are engaging in at the time! Hoping some of that might rub off on me! :) Thank you
Also had natural spring w water and power lines ruined no access and damage to pumps and holding tanks 😢😢
Enjoyed and very educating for timber owners.
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks! While I may not be the smartest person in the room I do strive to reach out to those who are smarter in their fields of endeavors!! Have a good one
Wish I knew this man and live by him just to learn his knowledge.😊
I wish I knew this. I have a man doing 50/50 and it’s all white oak. They hauled a load of 21 logs for 8080 total. 4040 for me. But it was a basic slip of sale. No separation of grade of logs.
The best most informative video I've seen on UA-cam yet . I hope you train some young men to ur business going
Excellent video I've been looking for a video like this kind of detail for a while I hope I can find a consultant like this man in my area thanks for sharing this
Glad it was helpful! It was a treat taking it all in!!
Quite interesting, thanks Joe.
Glad you enjoyed it, sure was! Thanks
Awesome video dude has so much knowledge and he's giving it to this messed up world for free! Did not know you could blanch accorns pretty sweet
Glad you enjoyed! Yeah he has a lifetime of this kind of experience! Thank you
Man of wisdom wish he would come to Virginia
did you check with him ?
Wat part of va
@@billybobs841
Fredericksburg
i liked that old man and i think hes a honest man from my first impression
Yep I totally agree on that! Super genuine!
That was some great information.
yeah it sure was! Man, you guys should consider getting a group of your buddies together this is another once in a lifetime property!! Just stunning and HUGE deer hunting potential. Thanks Gary!
Does this gentleman do this for a living and what areas does he do? Looking at a property in KY and DESPERATELY need somebody with his type of skills to help assess the timber!!
Yes I do and I will come to Ky.
Hey Terry! Hope all is well buddy! Belated Merry Christmas, and best wishes for the new year! We had enough of IL we finally made the move across the river into Missouri! Best of luck to you and yours! Thanks.
@@KapperOutdoors2.0 Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Still getting contacts on the video you posted. We should do another one. I'd be glad to come your way. Take care.
@TerryWheeler-uk4wc how can I contact you to set something up? My wife and i are planning our trip in the next couple weeks.
Interesting episode on the timber selection/harvesting process. I hear there could be a severe weather outbreak for a wide area from KY, IL, WI for Friday. Take care.
yeah I guess another storm system again tonight! Thank you!
I have 6 big walnuts like the one he pointed out with the nails. the used the trees as a barb wire fence post way back in the day. makes me cry. we will be doing another select cut in two years. so far we have at least 30 big green or blue ash trees left.. we do get some death every other year or so. but lots of baby ash trees growing.
Yeah too bad on the Walnuts! I never really considered deer stands and fencing ruining trees! At least you are doing select cuts over time.
Great informative and interesting video 👌
Thanks, it sure was! Terry has been in the woods for a long time!!
I'm a logger in in the south and there's big money in black walnut they come all the way from North Carolina to pick the logs up themselves
I believe that. Problem is there are not many mature ones around..
I like his logic !
Good man .
I made a pick axe handle out of an old tree. It was really fun to be so resourceful. It looks good, but I'm not so sure how good it will last. I should at least have something for a few swings.
This guy is awesome. Very good video.
I thought so too! Thank you, have a great weekend!
My friend made an agreement with a logger. The logger came into his woods and ended up moving one of the paint marks on the stump. Some loggers spoil the image of loggers in general.
This gentleman appears to be a professional forester.
Very interesting. Great video sir.
Thank you this was very interesting and educational for sure!
He's the real deal !
Good information!
No doubt, very informative if you have hardwoods!
Amazing man, respect.
Knowledgeable guy and a straight shooter. Id still run a lexis-nexus check.
Guess you can't be too safe! He was a pleasure to listen to though, so many years of being in the woods.
Yeah, he was great. We need all the knowledge from his generation that we can get...I just have a trust but verify policy. Probably more of a me issue than a him issue.
This gentleman is why I support a college path before employment…he is a perfect example of what happens when education gains a life of experience…does he write books?…I’d love to read his thoughts and ideas…
I could not find one buyer to come and select cut my timber a few years ago. I have 80 acres, but they all said it was too small and their equipment so large that they only clear cut, so.... I clear cut and not so much as by choice either. SE Arkansas. Wish this guy had lived close to me, Smart Man!
Man that is such a problem these days, at least in rural areas. So hard to find the right guys that want to come and work for an honest day's pay!!
One thing I didn't hear was Staves. White Oak staves go for more than veneer here, or so I've been told.
I'm not a wood expert so I can't comment. Still have the last parcel for sale. Might have to log it if we get desperate!
A wealth of knowledge.
Yep it was very interesting trying to soak it all in!! Thanks
I just planted a bunch of white pine on my south facing sloped property. Along with hickory, maple, and walnut, they should add alot to the wildlife value to my land.
Oh yes adding pine or conifers to a hardwood stand is a great diversity mix! Best of luck should serve you, and the wildlife well!
I sure Hope this gentleman is still around, praise be...
Does he still have a website? I'd be interested to know.
Favor of reply requested. Thank You. !!
you can email me at kapper@kapperoutdoors.com for the info Thanks
Rapper will give you his phone number
Yes, good point. Clear cuts are generally smaller. A 10 acre cut is what I did on my place-it’s loaded with wildlife after 4 years!
A clear cut is a great wildlife and habitat tool! Nice!
For land owners that have hardwood timber, should we be using prescribed fire to establish more oaks?
Yes it is widely used down here in the Shawnee National forest.
Really enjoyed your video. What is the name of your profession called? My brother has a good amount of white oak in lower middle Tennessee. He would need someone like you to examine his trees. Who or what should he look for? Thanks
You'd need a good forester to assess and mark timber like this. A logger alone can run you afoul. But a forester and/or forester-timber broker will be worth their fee in gold! Best of luck!
That was educational.
wow!!! that was awesome.... i wish he was in Ohio.... i have land that butts up to the Shawnee State Forest and i have some good size timber on 57 acres
jeff
Nice! Yeah guys like these are hard to come by these days! Both Terry and Michael are a wealth of knowledge! Thank you
Good video. Enjoyed listening to him.
yeah, extremely knowledgeable after so many years in the woods!! I bet he could go on for hours and hours with all kinds of very unique lessons about the woods!
Question ? What is this guys title so I can find someone like him to look at my farm?
Generally speaking you want to find a private forester like him to give you a land assessment. Not a logger.
My uncle has a lot of land in north west Washington and has told me by having a company come in, to thin out his property has paid for him to be able to buy up more.
Being a Sawyer you have to know what you are cutting. You could loose money if you make the wrong cutts. You have to think like a grader by looking at the tree and getting the best log you can out of the tree. Also dropping them you could have a fork in the limbs and if you dont drop it right it will spit the log. You have to lay both limbs on the ground. If you drop it on just one it will spit it. He have saw classes we had to do and we t threw everything to know how to cut safe and know how to make the safest way to drop it and how to watch for widow makers and everything else. Always keep your thimb wrapped around the handle so it can not kick out of your hand. There is a lot to know about being a Sawyer. What you cut is going to make the most out of the tree. I loved working in the woods. Its very Dangerous thow many people have been killed doing this.
Does Mr. Wheeler work in Michigan If so how can I get in touch with him.
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I don't believe that he does
@@KapperOutdoors2.0I will gladly travel to other states.
Is there a follow up to this video? Did you go thru with the sale?
No, we decided not to go through with the sale. We felt it would detract too much from the value of the property
Forestry management is like tradesmen, we need more of them. Kids are not majoring in that anymore
Splendid insight from this pleasant forester.
I thought so too!
I imagine what this old fella could do with GPS technology,it would stop poaching from unscrupulous loggers. That tech and his brains would be the best of both worlds.
I agree would be a great combination!! Cheers!
@@KapperOutdoors2.0 I use GPS.
Hi. Is this Terry Wheeler the forester in the video? @@TerryWheeler-uk4wc
I don't know how I survived my youth with this level of ADHD. I can get away with it as a retiree. To sort information is a decadent pleasure ! I may have ignored hours worth of productive work to do this. I hope someone out there takes some benefit/pleasure in it !
Guys great
Where do you find a guy like this in South Central Kentucky.
Don’t know why I’m seeing a year old video but I enjoyed this fella! He is a wise man that cares about our timber here in IL. I would like to get ahold of him. Do you have his contact info?
If you email me I can get it to you: kapper@kapperoutdoors.com Otherwise you can look up Michael Brenner Forestrty here in Southern IL and he can hook you up also. Thanks
Awesome video
Does anyone know who the Timber Broker is in this video?
Rapper will give you his phone number
Terry Wheeler
I live in the Menominee Indian Reservation in Wisconsin. I live across the road from our mill. MTE is the name of our mill. We have the best logging around. We mever cut in the same place we cant go back forn 50nyears i think it is. We tale care of our forest and have beautiful trees check it out there are videos about our mill and logging. I was a Sawyer most of my life. Our mill donated logs for the final 4 march madness floors there is videos of that on UA-cam also
Did I miss his info? I would like to speak with that man. I have a 30 acre property.
Yea this guy knows his stuff, on of the "other youtubers" that makes videos said the oaks would only bring about 150 each lol and just dont see that
I hope it works out for you to do another video with this guy. He needs his own channel.
I agree, very interesting and educational to listen to! Loads of great history too!
I grew up near a huge timber in kansas that my dad bought when I was a teenager. He grew up hunting it because he lived near it an knew the owners. He said it used to be solid huge beautiful red oaks but when he was a kid they came in and cut all of them out not leaving anything of any size. It is still 90% tall spindly hackberrys. Kinda like the "thicket" he described when he warned about some loggers that will come in and cut everything down. It makes me sick because i know what it would've looked like as there is a smaller timber across the river thats never been logged. Its absolutely full of the most beautiful straight tall oaks youve ever seen. It would make a logger drool. I wish somehow i could transform our timber into oaks again but the canopy of hackberrys would have to be cleared and im not sure new oaks would grow very fast because of how dry all the competing trees leave the soil. I wish i could have someone help advise me on the best plan because it could be something amazing again for my son or grandson someday.
Years ago. I cut a bunch of select grade spruce. My scaler came upon the the next stick up the tree that had a single limb. He said roll your logs so the limb is down. I can’t down grade what I don’t see. The logs were going to Japan in the early 90’s.
Will never forget what he said.
Let’s let them “Harbor Bombers” pay.
What came to mind was pulling those nails and running a metal detector over the trees and waiting ten years. If they are going to china. Let em pay
Wow, nice! I think you could get away with more if they are going overseas and not so closely inspected!
@@KapperOutdoors2.0 all depends on who is scaling the logs. our timber industry is gone now. no export here anymore. was good money while it lasted.
I need an honest person like this him to check out my little 7 acker forest
How can you get a hold of this man?
You can contact Michael Brenner forestry in Southern Illinois. I think he should have a public number. Then he can put you in touch with him, I believe he is Michael's uncle maybe or some type of relative.
Need him in NWC 250 acres ...
The honey Locust is a usable wood
But i hate it. Dam thorns
Me and you both! Them thorns are like steel too!
Thornless honey locust are beautiful trees, small leaves & dappled shade.
i need this guy in mississippi. anybody around there know a forester like him?
TERRY’s PERSONAL INJURY
= a reminder that loggers do dangerous work and deserve their pay.
* a tree fall on me 13 years ago
* they put me in a helicopter
* I should have died
* I was in hospital bed for 90 days
* on ventilator five days
* Countless surgeries
* my left boot was by my cheek- with my foot in it
* My right boot was as bad behind me
* I have a rod and two plates (points to legs)
* and a plate in my back
* and crushed my rib cage
* anyway, long story short, I don't do any walking if I don't have to. (Terry speaks while on an ATV)
That was a pretty horrific injury to visualize! I was in pain just trying to visualize it!!
What is his company name?
Kapper can give you his phone number
I’m going off of what the thumbnail said there’s money grow on trees now the trees are the money