Ya technically any person _can_ be an engineer, but you're right - perseverance is ultimately what sets them apart (that being said, I do think the average person has more perseverance than they may believe and often psych themselves out early based on what they've heard about engineering as a whole)
@@GauruvVirk Yes....so did I have a 2.7 GPA. But a 2.7 GPA in Engineering is not the same as a 2.7 in Psychology, History, or even Math or Physics or Business....not the same. Each 0.01 was paid in blood and sleep depravation.
Anyone can become an engineer if they are willing to make the necessary sacrifices and put in the hard work. It's challenging, but that's why it comes with good pay and benefits.I failed the math placement exam at Sac State and had to start with Math 12 (College Algebra). From there, I worked my way through Pre-Calc, Calc 1, 2, 3, and Differential Equations. It took me 5 years to graduate, but last semester I finally did it. I landed an internship that turned into a full-time position, and now I’m leaving that job to join SMUD, the place I’ve always wanted to work. It not going to be easy, but I can promise you it will be worth it. Source: Average Person Beside engineering, can we get a video on hair tutorial? the glow up is crazy lol
I felt very average until I graded for one of my previous professors. The average personbarely does like half the homework assignments. It made me feel way better about how I was doing.
The unicorns who did well in stem subjects are the first people to fail out. If you never had to grind or work hard, you'll never make it through. It's not easy, it's not intuitive, you will study and feel lost. If that's not something you're comfortable with this is not the degree for you.
True, although getting through and getting through with top grades is a whole different beast. Both require a lot of effort, but the rather is borderline impossible without some significant degree of talent
"Talent"? more like if you were studying hard before engineering, it will be easier for you to study engineering, whole someone who was never a disciplined student will struggle more in the beggining
I failed chemistry, physic, geometry, stuck in special classes with english as their second language. Got out of the marine corps not knowing how to add like terms. I applied to a graduated applied math program and got accepted. Decided to take the electrical engineering path to get into antenna and rf. At first, I thought I was just dumb but i didn't have any money for lunch, went to three different high schools. I couldn't commit to the hours to get good at something. Bill gates got 10,000 hours of programming and was able to leverage the technology era to build microsoft. Your not dumb, you just need to put in some more hours if you can put in 10,000 you're a superstar :) Take care and i wish you all the best in your career.
I didnt do great in high school either but im graduating electrical engineering in december from a good engineering college. I had to start off at a community college because there was no way i could have been accepted into university with my high school record. But i dont regret that at all. The professors at smaller colleges are usually more passionate and willing to work with and get to know students. Smaller class sizes mean you get to know a lot more of your classmates. I would say start with the 2 year engineering degree, if you do well enough get the 4 year. You can still get good jobs with the 2 year degree and many companies will let you move into a true engineering position with the 2 year degree after some years of experience
Congratulations dude 💪🔥 I’m the same I didn’t do good in high school either wish I took it seriously back then . Still Thinking if I should apply next year at my community college kinda nervous I haven’t use math etc in a while watching videos and might get a tutor to get me ready/ prepared 🥲 . I want to make myself proud to do better in college than I was in high school .
I can only speak about EE and CS (as part of the EE course). The first day my teacher said: “look to the left and the right to you, by the end of the 2nd semester one of them will have dropped out. This is one of the toughest diplomas, safe yourself and me a lot of effort and get up, enlist for some liberale leftwing crap study if you are not willing to work and work hard.” I immediately loved the guy 😂And he was right 25% dropped out the first year. The seconds year almost another 25% Now I too thought (and almost was in the first semester) the 18 year old college dropout on his way to the military conscription. I didn’t want to study EE, I wanted to study at the Royal conservatory I just didn’t get through the audition. So my best plan was to get into the film academy but by then my spot was filled. But they told me my application was so good that I could enroll next semester. Now the problem was,we had conscription and the DOD already came knocking. So my dad suggested to do one semester of EE as I was always tinkering with electronics and was already an apt programmer. And EE always has places free, because of its negative image. And for some reason, I could up. Much of the maths that was so bad in high school just worked for me… it was applied maths and that’s very different. Especially when abstract maths was no longer kart of the syllabus in the 3rd semester I soared. I hardly ever came to class - I was more busy recording and gigging with bands. And I scored well on tests. The only problem was the incredible amount of time spend doing the practical projects. Designing and building a Z80SBc. Implementing the “washing machine program in sheer machine language”. Writing a basic OS. Making a NES development station and reverse engineering the prepaid public telephone cards were projects I did of which the NES and phone card were elected projects the rest mandatory. But it was just grinding, now incredibly challenging. And that grinding did teach me something. Sometimes you need to grind and grind and you’ll get the result.
@@chrisaugustin9181 in my experience yes! In my case that was because maths and chemistry were not part of the syllabus. And those two tripped me up. You just have applied maths and applied chemistry (which was more like material knowledge bit the molecular structure). Also you are now familiar with concepts that were completely new in that first semester. That lowers the complexity level also. For me it became an applied maths problem and sheer determination and nose to the grindstone thing for your practical projects. The latter I loved so that was no problem. The applied maths part was basically single variable algebra. And that I could cope with. Calculus… still don’t value that in electronics, never used it in practical work. I did use matrix transformations but never in electronics but it 3D development. I still have to find an applied use for that in electronics.
Might take some longer than others. Entered college and was not ready for it at all. Then covid hit and things just got worse. Also had surgery around the same time. Meandered around and ended up changing majors. Last two years I completed an Electrician Course and currently trying to become an electrical apprentice for moneys sake. Along the way I have been taking engineering courses at local community college so to keep up with prerequisites. You learn the HARD way you are not as smart as everyone else and in my case I think I might have adhd. I probably won't finish the major until I hit 30 given that I have to work now and I've committed to this electrician stuff (even tho work is sparse as an apprentice). Im 23 now and alot of my friends have finsihed ccollege and have started their lives. It defiantly still feels like Im way behind. But I learned to accept lifes not a race. Its gonna suck getting there but I guess you can't make life too easy lol.
I wonder about this. What's it like to be an actual engineer? I know there are a variety of factors to consider, but I worry that it could be boring and not involve much actual work designing things.
I'd just highlight that almost any type of school is really really easy compared to actually finding a job and being in the workforce. On the flip side, your coworkers are going to be much better resources than your professors/TAs/other students.
That has not been my experience at all. Getting a job can be very difficult depending on what the job market looks like when you're searching. Particularly in absence of experience. There are certainly some things which are more challenging in the workforce. But overall, engineering and it's work is much less difficult than engineering school.
@@melvinlemay7366 I would agree with Melvin here - I think engineering school and the engineering workforce both present challenges, but ultimately the challenges of engineering school tend to be more difficult (a couple reasons that come to mind are that the engineering workforce has more realistic deadlines and you can collaborate with others more, rather than have to tackle everything solo like you would with tests in school)
@@GauruvVirk I think this is a problem of perspective...there are plenty of unrealistic deadlines in the workforce, in fact I would argue it's more common since you're often dealing with situations like salespeople determining time budgets. There is also no reason you can't collaborate in college, and the most successful students were often the ones who were able to organize study groups and doing homework today. College seems hard because it's when most people are the greenest at doing actual "professional" level work. The difference is you know that all of the work is possible, because at the end of the day it's all work that has to be able to be figured out independently by someone who doesn't know anything to begin with. Someone who's been in an industry and has learned to manage their own time, and how to pick up new skills as needed, and how to remain disciplined and focused throughout a workday for several years straight without any long breaks like summer vacation would probably find school incredibly easy if they went back.
you really only need to know basic operators, exponents, pythagoreans theorum, and low level trigonometry that just gets taught in geometry because its just sohcahtoa.
Ya college math courses for engineering students get more in the weeds than you'll ever really need to get in the real world (unless you go into research or study theory)
Depends on what kind. I am not an engineer and I suck at math. I kind of grasp civil engineering concepts, but electrical engineering???...too abstract for me.
I think in theory a person of average intelligence could make it but the reality is that they would require an inordinate amount of discipline bc they would need to study much more than the smart person that already needs to study a lot. There’s a reason engineers have a higher Iq on average than the rest of the population. I’m not an engineer I just had some as roommates and noticed the difference between a very smart guy and an above average guy of which I don’t think a normal person could do it without East Asian Cram school levels of dedication
graduation with a degree of any kind requires discipline and dedication. an engineering degree in particular is harder than many other degrees, requiring the ability to learn some pretty complicated material, which i'll use as the working definition of intelligence for this post. i've met a lot of people in my wandering of the earth and although i haven't recorded my impressions of every encounter with respect to objective or subjective measures of the parameters above, i intuit that the average person does NOT have what it takes to acquire an engineering degree. ie. the average person is NOT sufficiently disciplined AND dedicated AND intelligent.
3:08 i might be a prodigy, but im not 17, im gonna graduate highschool next month while in 14 and study aerospace engineering in uni once im 15 mwahahhaha
I think to become an engineer of any kind, you need at least some baseline intelligence, which is above average. However, above average does not mean extraordinary. It might mean 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 of all people. If you think about all the people in school, this bar should not seem very difficult to clear. Other than that, it’s just the amount of effort you want to put in. And bad in school of course doesn’t mean dumb, while grades correlate with intelligence, things like effort put in, interest, teachers, family life, or factors like ADHD or similar play a major role too
Important note: the average person could get through engineering school, although only with a LOT of effort (depending on the type of engineering and school), and it will not be fun. The average person thinking about going to engineering school will probably do just fine. It will be hard, yes, but absolutely doable. And if not, you will be able to tell after the first semester, so just do it if you think it’s something you will like!
I guess really anyone can become an engineer, but it takes a special kind of person to leave a like on this video 🙂↕
Intelligence is one of the most misunderstood things. Newton wasn’t newton just because he was smart. He also studied 16-18 hours a day.
also gotta give a lot of credit to the apple
anybody can be an engineer. The questions is does the average person have the perseverance to become an engineer?
Ya technically any person _can_ be an engineer, but you're right - perseverance is ultimately what sets them apart (that being said, I do think the average person has more perseverance than they may believe and often psych themselves out early based on what they've heard about engineering as a whole)
You'll be fine -Below Average person, graduated with 2.7 GPA, 13 years+ of successful career as engineer.
Love to see it 🫡
@@GauruvVirk Yes....so did I have a 2.7 GPA. But a 2.7 GPA in Engineering is not the same as a 2.7 in Psychology, History, or even Math or Physics or Business....not the same. Each 0.01 was paid in blood and sleep depravation.
Anyone can become an engineer if they are willing to make the necessary sacrifices and put in the hard work. It's challenging, but that's why it comes with good pay and benefits.I failed the math placement exam at Sac State and had to start with Math 12 (College Algebra). From there, I worked my way through Pre-Calc, Calc 1, 2, 3, and Differential Equations. It took me 5 years to graduate, but last semester I finally did it. I landed an internship that turned into a full-time position, and now I’m leaving that job to join SMUD, the place I’ve always wanted to work. It not going to be easy, but I can promise you it will be worth it. Source: Average Person
Beside engineering, can we get a video on hair tutorial? the glow up is crazy lol
I felt very average until I graded for one of my previous professors. The average personbarely does like half the homework assignments. It made me feel way better about how I was doing.
Comparison is the source of joy 😎
@@GauruvVirk haha in this case
The unicorns who did well in stem subjects are the first people to fail out. If you never had to grind or work hard, you'll never make it through. It's not easy, it's not intuitive, you will study and feel lost. If that's not something you're comfortable with this is not the degree for you.
Yeah anybody can get through school with enough effort. College is way more about trying than talent. Talent just means you don't have to try as hard
"Talent just means you don't have to try as hard" is a bar 😯
True, although getting through and getting through with top grades is a whole different beast. Both require a lot of effort, but the rather is borderline impossible without some significant degree of talent
"Talent"? more like if you were studying hard before engineering, it will be easier for you to study engineering, whole someone who was never a disciplined student will struggle more in the beggining
I failed chemistry, physic, geometry, stuck in special classes with english as their second language. Got out of the marine corps not knowing how to add like terms. I applied to a graduated applied math program and got accepted. Decided to take the electrical engineering path to get into antenna and rf. At first, I thought I was just dumb but i didn't have any money for lunch, went to three different high schools. I couldn't commit to the hours to get good at something. Bill gates got 10,000 hours of programming and was able to leverage the technology era to build microsoft. Your not dumb, you just need to put in some more hours if you can put in 10,000 you're a superstar :) Take care and i wish you all the best in your career.
I didnt do great in high school either but im graduating electrical engineering in december from a good engineering college. I had to start off at a community college because there was no way i could have been accepted into university with my high school record. But i dont regret that at all. The professors at smaller colleges are usually more passionate and willing to work with and get to know students. Smaller class sizes mean you get to know a lot more of your classmates. I would say start with the 2 year engineering degree, if you do well enough get the 4 year. You can still get good jobs with the 2 year degree and many companies will let you move into a true engineering position with the 2 year degree after some years of experience
Congratulations dude 💪🔥 I’m the same I didn’t do good in high school either wish I took it seriously back then . Still Thinking if I should apply next year at my community college kinda nervous I haven’t use math etc in a while watching videos and might get a tutor to get me ready/ prepared 🥲 . I want to make myself proud to do better in college than I was in high school .
Congrats! And yes, community college is underrated
I can only speak about EE and CS (as part of the EE course). The first day my teacher said: “look to the left and the right to you, by the end of the 2nd semester one of them will have dropped out. This is one of the toughest diplomas, safe yourself and me a lot of effort and get up, enlist for some liberale leftwing crap study if you are not willing to work and work hard.” I immediately loved the guy 😂And he was right 25% dropped out the first year. The seconds year almost another 25%
Now I too thought (and almost was in the first semester) the 18 year old college dropout on his way to the military conscription. I didn’t want to study EE, I wanted to study at the Royal conservatory I just didn’t get through the audition. So my best plan was to get into the film academy but by then my spot was filled. But they told me my application was so good that I could enroll next semester. Now the problem was,we had conscription and the DOD already came knocking. So my dad suggested to do one semester of EE as I was always tinkering with electronics and was already an apt programmer. And EE always has places free, because of its negative image. And for some reason, I could up. Much of the maths that was so bad in high school just worked for me… it was applied maths and that’s very different. Especially when abstract maths was no longer kart of the syllabus in the 3rd semester I soared. I hardly ever came to class - I was more busy recording and gigging with bands. And I scored well on tests. The only problem was the incredible amount of time spend doing the practical projects. Designing and building a Z80SBc. Implementing the “washing machine program in sheer machine language”. Writing a basic OS. Making a NES development station and reverse engineering the prepaid public telephone cards were projects I did of which the NES and phone card were elected projects the rest mandatory. But it was just grinding, now incredibly challenging. And that grinding did teach me something. Sometimes you need to grind and grind and you’ll get the result.
so it gets easier after sohphpmore year
@@chrisaugustin9181 in my experience yes!
In my case that was because maths and chemistry were not part of the syllabus. And those two tripped me up. You just have applied maths and applied chemistry (which was more like material knowledge bit the molecular structure).
Also you are now familiar with concepts that were completely new in that first semester. That lowers the complexity level also.
For me it became an applied maths problem and sheer determination and nose to the grindstone thing for your practical projects. The latter I loved so that was no problem. The applied maths part was basically single variable algebra. And that I could cope with. Calculus… still don’t value that in electronics, never used it in practical work.
I did use matrix transformations but never in electronics but it 3D development. I still have to find an applied use for that in electronics.
really thought you were bigger, your editing is great and you seem like a real youtube professional
Thanks so much! That means a lot :)
Is being an actual engineer boring? On the job, what do you actually spend most of your time doing?
Varies so much from job to job that it is hard to give a general description
Might take some longer than others. Entered college and was not ready for it at all. Then covid hit and things just got worse. Also had surgery around the same time. Meandered around and ended up changing majors. Last two years I completed an Electrician Course and currently trying to become an electrical apprentice for moneys sake. Along the way I have been taking engineering courses at local community college so to keep up with prerequisites. You learn the HARD way you are not as smart as everyone else and in my case I think I might have adhd. I probably won't finish the major until I hit 30 given that I have to work now and I've committed to this electrician stuff (even tho work is sparse as an apprentice). Im 23 now and alot of my friends have finsihed ccollege and have started their lives. It defiantly still feels like Im way behind. But I learned to accept lifes not a race. Its gonna suck getting there but I guess you can't make life too easy lol.
You may get thru the schooling as an average person
But you likely won't be enjoying the work experience
I wonder about this. What's it like to be an actual engineer? I know there are a variety of factors to consider, but I worry that it could be boring and not involve much actual work designing things.
Really good perspective - a lot of people focus on if they could, rather than if they _should_
I'd just highlight that almost any type of school is really really easy compared to actually finding a job and being in the workforce. On the flip side, your coworkers are going to be much better resources than your professors/TAs/other students.
That has not been my experience at all. Getting a job can be very difficult depending on what the job market looks like when you're searching. Particularly in absence of experience. There are certainly some things which are more challenging in the workforce. But overall, engineering and it's work is much less difficult than engineering school.
@@melvinlemay7366 I would agree with Melvin here - I think engineering school and the engineering workforce both present challenges, but ultimately the challenges of engineering school tend to be more difficult (a couple reasons that come to mind are that the engineering workforce has more realistic deadlines and you can collaborate with others more, rather than have to tackle everything solo like you would with tests in school)
@@GauruvVirk I think this is a problem of perspective...there are plenty of unrealistic deadlines in the workforce, in fact I would argue it's more common since you're often dealing with situations like salespeople determining time budgets. There is also no reason you can't collaborate in college, and the most successful students were often the ones who were able to organize study groups and doing homework today.
College seems hard because it's when most people are the greenest at doing actual "professional" level work. The difference is you know that all of the work is possible, because at the end of the day it's all work that has to be able to be figured out independently by someone who doesn't know anything to begin with.
Someone who's been in an industry and has learned to manage their own time, and how to pick up new skills as needed, and how to remain disciplined and focused throughout a workday for several years straight without any long breaks like summer vacation would probably find school incredibly easy if they went back.
you really only need to know basic operators, exponents, pythagoreans theorum, and low level trigonometry that just gets taught in geometry because its just sohcahtoa.
Ya college math courses for engineering students get more in the weeds than you'll ever really need to get in the real world (unless you go into research or study theory)
The question is you are meticiolous and have a deep conceptual understanding for engineering.
Depends on what kind. I am not an engineer and I suck at math. I kind of grasp civil engineering concepts, but electrical engineering???...too abstract for me.
I think in theory a person of average intelligence could make it but the reality is that they would require an inordinate amount of discipline bc they would need to study much more than the smart person that already needs to study a lot. There’s a reason engineers have a higher Iq on average than the rest of the population. I’m not an engineer I just had some as roommates and noticed the difference between a very smart guy and an above average guy of which I don’t think a normal person could do it without East Asian Cram school levels of dedication
graduation with a degree of any kind requires discipline and dedication. an engineering degree in particular is harder than many other degrees, requiring the ability to learn some pretty complicated material, which i'll use as the working definition of intelligence for this post.
i've met a lot of people in my wandering of the earth and although i haven't recorded my impressions of every encounter with respect to objective or subjective measures of the parameters above, i intuit that the average person does NOT have what it takes to acquire an engineering degree. ie. the average person is NOT sufficiently disciplined AND dedicated AND intelligent.
Not me. I totally suck at math. It would be a bad fit for me.
The self awareness is commendable 🤝
Im pretty average and I became an engineer :D
The proof is in the pudding!
Us 🤝 4 years and some change
They say you gotta be the change that you wanna see and we did just that 🫡
Already 4 years into electronics engineering, theres still 3 years left
Ah, setting up thouands of people for failure. Failure worth years and tens of thousands of $.
Doing my part 🫡
It's fitty cent.
Ahh that's probably what was confusing people
3:08 i might be a prodigy, but im not 17, im gonna graduate highschool next month while in 14 and study aerospace engineering in uni once im 15 mwahahhaha
ok...
oh my god you're the guy from the stories
anyone can become an engineerrrrrreeeeeeee
love the passion
I got it bud!😊
Nice!
I think to become an engineer of any kind, you need at least some baseline intelligence, which is above average. However, above average does not mean extraordinary. It might mean 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 of all people. If you think about all the people in school, this bar should not seem very difficult to clear. Other than that, it’s just the amount of effort you want to put in. And bad in school of course doesn’t mean dumb, while grades correlate with intelligence, things like effort put in, interest, teachers, family life, or factors like ADHD or similar play a major role too
Important note: the average person could get through engineering school, although only with a LOT of effort (depending on the type of engineering and school), and it will not be fun. The average person thinking about going to engineering school will probably do just fine. It will be hard, yes, but absolutely doable. And if not, you will be able to tell after the first semester, so just do it if you think it’s something you will like!
Totally agree - ya there are a lot of factors at play
50 cent year aha ha
Thank you 🙏🏽 I was simply just too ahead of my time