I hated Tyler perry movies due to repetition of men being abusive or being absent fathers. Or women being abused or searching for love. I understand it's inspired by the women of his life but there are so much more stories he could tell. But it's the same damn thing.
Yeah but that's what people been patronizing him for so the jokes not on him tbh. I never hated Perry's stuff but I had my fill back around 2006 or so. I saw a couple of the plays and one movie and I was like ok that's enough. But his audience keeps coming back. I give him props since it took till about 2020 for everyone to come around to realizing the flaws. I still give dude his propers tho
Thank you! I have only watched "If Loving You is Wrong", I swear all you hear on that show is "are you sure". I'm pretty even tempered, but once I literally yelled "Yes, he's sure, bitch!", without realizing I said it...
It irks me when people say he's employing other Black people. Yeah, he's employing Black people in front of the camera, but he's not providing *any* opportunities for Black folks behind the scenes (i.e. writers, directors, producers and just Black creatives in general) And it's not like any of these actors he's "employing" are going on to have big careers outside of his low budget movies and TV shows. If anything it probably damages their careers because every one is pointing and laughing at them for being in such a low budget mess. Black folks really need to raise their standards and stop settling for his mediocre nonsense. There are other Black creatives who we could be supporting who actually put out high quality work like, Ava Duvernay, Issa Rae, Jordan Peel etc. to be settling for such buffoonery
All these older folks complaining! We are of a COMPLETELY different generation from you all. We are not okay with this “black women gotta struggle” crap.
Pink pink all these older women talking about how “madea” was the cornerstone of their family. How is acting stereotypical a cornerstone? It’s embarrassing, but when it’s all you know I guess you can’t see it.
Tyler perry is just too oldschool, i notice a lot of older people love these characters and stereotypes . These ideals are so ingrained in them that they almost find it impossible to comprehend that "blackness" is diverse and complex . This is why i fw with spike lee lol.
My name is my name Lena writes for white people and that’s the main reason why I can’t get into her. She doesn’t fool me with her foolishness. Tyler is ridiculous though.
@@tdavi3216 old school will always exists, but in a new generation it becomes stale seeing the same stereotypes.spike lee has always taken risks to explore what it means to be black. So i would never call him old school just because he's of an older generation. Its all about being innovative and challenging yourself. Tyler perry always stays safe and it gets predictable and boring.
I always hated the end of Madea's Family Reunion when the Lynn Whitfield character is sort of forgiven by the daughter. I understand Tyler wants to promote the Christian ideal of forgiveness, but the mom didn't even really apologize when she literally threw both her daughters into the arms of abusers.
I get why she forgave her mom it was for herself to be healed and what I understood from that is that when you forgive is for yourself and to heal your own heart, but you can't always wrap up a happy ending in a 200 hour Tyler Perry movie cause there is sooooooo much story detail and build up just for a 5 minute forgiveness scene
Tyler Perry’s colorism is so strange to me. In his plays, I can definitely think of several moments where he had the “villain” be a light skinned man and the good man be dark skinned. But when translated to movies, he switched it? I can’t think of one movie where he doesn’t do that. I don’t understand.
My name is my name in his films, most definitely, always! But his plays, from my recollection, it was the opposite. But I definitely could be wrong. It’s been a minute since I’ve seen his plays.
Its hollywood the hollywood undertone of the dark skinned man being the a**hole and the light one being the best option. Just like how men in hip hop worship lighter women over darker women
Plus the most pivotal scenes in his movies is something he stole from other movies: diary of a mad black woman(ending from officer and a gentleman): I can do bad all by myself (color purple shug Avery church scene), and so on. If you look at his movies, you can find other instances of scene stealing.
As an older man I must say I was impressed with your insight. As a dark skinned brother I appreciate you recognizing n speaking up about Tyler's tendency to always have the dark skinned brother as the villain in his movies. Hopefully he'll get out of his colorist ways.
Tyler Perry makes sure his male actors are very muscular. Are they taking steroids? The ladies look a hot mess. The First Lady on the Oval her hair and those dresses are horrible and mostly white dresses. One episode last season he had a scene where four black men was shot in the head, for kidnapping the President’s daughter. And Sister episodes the word Bitch is used constantly. Why is it that all the actors want is sex with so many different men? I will not watch the series again , it sucks. The wigs on the actors are awful. U make are black women look stupid. U need help when u are writing the scripts.
"WORK ETHIC!" nothing to brag about when it's rushed, basic comedy, & the SAME storylines. Easy to write when you're just tweaking characters here & there.
I'm sick of seeing us struggle with eachother most of the movie as blk men and women, there is never a happy ending except with 'madea' the comedy stuff.
Tyler probably got this content from his personal or surrounding failed relationships - He really need to come see the loving 50 plus year relationships. Shew, Samuel L Jackson and his wife are so funny and adorable...
As much as I LOVE bad movies, I don’t watch Tyler Perry movies. They’re very formulaic, to the point where I know how to watch these movies with extended family without commenting much. Watch the set up of the black woman done wrong. Leave and clean the kitchen or nap for a bit. Come back for the last 15 or so minutes to watch the villain get punished and the happy ending. A bad movie isn’t fun for me if it’s too predictable.
DarksideBallerina Diary of a Mad Black Woman was the only one I enjoyed and it was the first one I watched. Literally every other movie is just like that one. Like during the middle of the movie I expect someone to die or get sick in the middle of nowhere, then the movie goes from ridiculous comedy to really sad for a good half hour. Then there is a gospel song and everything is okay.
Perry's work nearly always represents the most negative stereotypes of black life, men & women & it began with a "man in a dress" with big breasts overweight spouting abusive smack.
I knew Tyler Perry couldn’t write a script worth a goddamn thing when he got a kids tv show entitled “Young Dylan” greenlit to Nickelodeon. I recently watched it this past Sunday and immediately changed the station to something else because I summarized his writing style within 3 minutes of that show. Tyler needs to hire some new writers. He fucking sucks when it comes to writing scripts. And his Netflix movie shows.
I’ve gotta say, the only good stuff he made were the 2000 movies and plays (most of them). Other than that, everything else after them are bland and way too predictable.
I agree with you. I just wish he would give more writers and opportunity. He can still be the main but he can let some writers write a few shows. I know he knows how hard it was coming up so I think he should share and put his own folks on. His films prove he needs more than just writers too
Tyler Perry has the means and the time to actually create great content based around us as black people but he refuses. I encourage other black people to look into black cinematography and film history bc he is not the end all be all and never has been. He just lucked up and got the opportunity to make films on the big screen. His bread and butter is stage plays. There is much more I have to say, but it’s not needed. I enjoyed your video!
I skipped some, of his movies, in the theater because they seemed predictable. I saw them on DVD and I was right. I agree his best movies were Why Did I Get Married (didn't care for the sequel), The Family That Preys, and Daddy's Little Girls.
Tyler Perry writes movies from his own perspective. His movies are written for Fat Black women that don't have a man, but does have a lot of black friends just like her.
Problem is, is people are watching a homosexual man who rob "christian" churches movies that's a part of Hollyweird. Both sexes in the community shit on each other and use the system to solve their issues. No other race (really nationality) of people do it as much as so called black people
I agree. His fall from grace reminded me of play as well. The scenes and the directing style. Whatever the lenses they used made me feel like it was cheap. Also, the way they spoke in a lot of scenes. It’s like they weren’t believable to me.
This is literally so perfect because my English research project is on Tyler Perry and all of his “controversies” and “downfall.” I love having more point of views :)
I've been a fan of Tyler's since high school, but comparing House of Payne back in the day to House of Payne the revival is seriously why he needs the writers room back. It's the same actors and actresses but you can tell the scenes are NOT how they use to be, that tv show back then felt like a reality show it was sooo good but now it is so slow and forced dialog.
16:15 He doesn’t like blk women … women period. He a gay man and that’s why women are always being abused in his movies. Yea he took bits and pieces from his life but STILL. You can tell. One of his plays I think madeas goes to jail… the way he (madea) told that lady as she was coming downstairs that she didn’t like her… the dark skinned wife that was cheating w the friend… that was Tyler talking not madea. Look at his face as he walks up on her. This lady played on the TLC Bio movie as TBozs mom.
Your point that he's coming from a single perspective is spot-on. And it's also why his work is so SINGULAR. I'm not knocking the hustle; I'm happy he found his niche. But a writing team would definitely add more depth and variety.
I'm Caucasian and stay in my Lane completely. BUT I've been saying this for years. I feel like he wants us to laugh AT, not With his characters. He paints the African American Male as always cheating or hurt by a horrible past. And the Women, he portrays to be so weak and helpless. Every Black Woman I've met are the absolute opposite of that. They are incredibly independent, STRONG and Divinely Beautiful. Just my opinion.
The ending to “Why Did I Get Married Too?” Where the husband was killed in a crash after the argument he had with his wife is the only part of a Tyler Perry movie that got me. It taught me no matter how bad things are and how much you dislike someone be nice to them often because you never know when they’re going to die after they leave the driveway.
Tyler Perry is overrated. Madea movies are like Ernest movies. Same lame ass characters. Shit just ain’t funny. It’s just over done. I’m glad it’s a black female seeing the same thing I’ve been saying since day one. His movies are limited.
It was never a play...,but “ A Family That Preys “ is one of favorite movies from Tyler Perry. That movie deserves a sequel...,but I wouldn’t want Tyler to ruin it.
I think you need to remember that many narcissists are like the man in A FALL FROM GRACE... in the way that they do switch up from "love bombing" to completely villainous and blaming others for what's happening. People may think it's exaggerated until they go through this with a family member, old "friend", boss or coworker, and/or love interest. This part is SERIOUSLY "true to life".
Temptation was a good movie but that ending needed to be rewritten. Why did every character stay the same but Jurnee Smollett was switched out with Candace Coke...Bryce aged with grey hair but Melinda (Brandy) didn’t age at all....even still till this day i cannot figure out why that was done
Tyler did NOT direct the first movie Diary of a Mad Black Woman. This is why it comes across better than his other films. Tyler recently went back and tried to fix A Fall From Grace on Netflix. He actually re-edited it and Netflix replaced the old version with the remix. It still doesn't help. Tyler's problem is RUSH, RUSH, RUSH. He brags about making these movies fast. A Fall From Grace was made in four days... and it shows.
@@curtisthomas2670 Exactly. He's a good business man, and I admire him for having his own studio, but he's producing garbage. A prime example is Madea Boo 2. That movie cost $25 million to make, but when you watch it, none of that money is on the screen. It looks cheap. Tyler pocketed $20 million and used the other $5 million to makes the movie (if that much) and the fact that it's a terrible movie makes it even worse.
15:34 someone talked about that exact trope on Twitter and I was like “Madea’s Family Reunion?” And they were like “no Diary of a Mad Black Woman” and I was like... is this a trend for him..?
I have to disagree with you on one aspect. My grandmother was a real life Madea before this character came along. She was known to hem people up in a heartbeat all across our city, be in church and have to move the gun in her purse to hand you a piece of candy. But she also opened her home to those needing rest, food a ride, clothes. She was a difficult person to put in a box.
If he’s trying to put black people on the map, he needs to understand that not everyone is an actor! There are great black writers out there as well that can make his movies and shows MUCH MUCH better!
I've always said that some of the older movies were better based on the strength of the cast, and I'm glad you picked it out. I've been revisiting the Why Did I Get Married's so my youngest brother could experience for the first time and they really do hold up. (Same for the Family that Preys, Brown Sugar, Daddy's Girls etc.)
Thanks for your rant, Queen. I can't stand Tyler Perry. I never understood why so many Black people like his films. He can't write a screenplay to save his life. He got started doing these 'gospel' stage plays and it shows. His movies are all the same, with abusive Black men and angry Black women. I didn't like the fact he always made dark skinned men the villains and light skin men the heroes. And the Madea character....Why did he think it was cool to play a grandma? But his audiences loved it. 🤦🏿♂️ His films are full of stereotypes and buffoonery . He set back Black film one hundred years. I am so glad we got people like Ry Coogler to give us a different vision of Blackness.
Tyler Perry’s work is like Doritos. It fulfills an immediate hunger (to see Black folks on screen), but it’s not the healthiest or most engaging thing you could consume. But it has its place. If you want that full rich steak meal film experience, you should look at someone else’s output.
I liked his old stuff because it made sense. The content was better. If he gives other writers a chance to write for him his work can still be great. I believe when he writes for his own shows and movies, people see that he is overwhelmed with costumes and other things on set. We all can see his work lacking quality content. Watching anything Tyler Perry isn't worth my time anymore
I love love Tyler! But I really need him to get help.... all his shows and movies have the same perspective when they could be different. I want to love Sistas but between the writing and the acting I am over it! #tylerperry #writinghelpnow #imtired
I love how you dissected this topic!! But in all honesty, I know a few people who are exactly like Jill Scotts’s husband in Why Did I Get Married? It’s unfortunate, but I think he hit the nail on the head. Especially, when regarding men who shamelessly neglect and abuse their partner. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Thankyou thankyou thankyou for saying this.. there are men out here MUCH worse than even he was. She just hasn't experienced it so she doesn't know. He pulls these stories from people he has known alot of times so its very real.
@@queendom8752 I don't call firing your writers because you refuse to compensate them brilliant. I don't call making every single movie you have showcasing black struggle love brilliant?????
@@mariahyohannes if he found ways to use the same stories and still make extreme capital he absolutely is brilliant. Now that isn't to say those of us who keep buying it are such. But then again maybe thats the point. That's what people WANT to see from him. Atleast the ones that continue to support it. He isn't a millionaire for nothing. He's not going to stop because people are critical of that if it's still making him money.
Thank you for addressing this. I’ve been wondering for the longest, what’s up with the bad wigs for the guys. I thought maybe he wanted them to look different from real life, but yes the wigs are distracting. I couldn’t get into the last movie falling from grace because of it. I don’t make movies, so somebody please explain the hair thing to me. I needed the 😂.
The one movie that I liked was Good Deeds because no character was black and white good or evil. So many of the movies would have been better if characters had been fleshed out more I.e. Get more and better writers.
That was a Tyler Perry level audio edit 19:05 - 19:22. It's not tearing him down to ask him to step up his level of production. He's not renting studios and editing rooms now he has plenty of time to get shyte right. Tyler is not above criticism.
The way I describe Tyler Perry movies to people who have never seen them: Picture one of those really serious dramatic movies about the daily struggles of black people, like Fences, or The color purple, or Boyz n the hood, or A raisin in the sun, you get the picture. OK, now imagine watching any and all of those films, exactly as they are.....except every fifteen minutes, the Klumps from The nutty professor movies randomly show up.
That man has too much money to NOT be able to get a REAL stylist, but instead he’d rather continue to put these actors/actresses in those hard ass hair hats😂😂😂
I normally can't sit through something like this but I appreciate your perspective and your delivery. You ain't hard to look at either. Lol. We watchin'.
It's always the same story. What I hate about his movies is that he blames the woman for their problems. One movie I saw a little girl was always abused and neglected and had to fend for her brothers and nearly gets raped by an older man. "Madea" tells this girl she has an attitude and needs to grow up. Like TF?! Girl is abused and traumatized and is the way she is for a reason. Forgot the name of the movie
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I hated Tyler perry movies due to repetition of men being abusive or being absent fathers. Or women being abused or searching for love. I understand it's inspired by the women of his life but there are so much more stories he could tell. But it's the same damn thing.
I agree his movies tend to be very repetitive and predictable with the same storylines
I feel you! Seems like he borderline romanticizes it sometimes
Every movie be the same its like dejvu
Yes and I also hate that he doesn't care about the quality of what he creates
Yeah but that's what people been patronizing him for so the jokes not on him tbh. I never hated Perry's stuff but I had my fill back around 2006 or so. I saw a couple of the plays and one movie and I was like ok that's enough. But his audience keeps coming back. I give him props since it took till about 2020 for everyone to come around to realizing the flaws. I still give dude his propers tho
As far as his shows, I HATE how he spends 10 minutes of a scene going back and forth repeating the same thing in different ways
Yessss... I know exactly what you mean
Guuuuurl.... that's ALL day on his show "Sistas"!!!
its called filler cause he cant think of something more creative
Thank you! I have only watched "If Loving You is Wrong", I swear all you hear on that show is "are you sure". I'm pretty even tempered, but once I literally yelled "Yes, he's sure, bitch!", without realizing I said it...
@@janellejulianajoy 😂😂 I haven't watched this show in like 2 years, but I know EXACTLY what you're talking about.
It irks me when people say he's employing other Black people. Yeah, he's employing Black people in front of the camera, but he's not providing *any* opportunities for Black folks behind the scenes (i.e. writers, directors, producers and just Black creatives in general) And it's not like any of these actors he's "employing" are going on to have big careers outside of his low budget movies and TV shows. If anything it probably damages their careers because every one is pointing and laughing at them for being in such a low budget mess. Black folks really need to raise their standards and stop settling for his mediocre nonsense. There are other Black creatives who we could be supporting who actually put out high quality work like, Ava Duvernay, Issa Rae, Jordan Peel etc. to be settling for such buffoonery
Tbh, he doesn't owe the community anything.
Tru Artist what are you talking about? He owes the community everything. He’s nothing without the community that supported his plays.
@@truartist5379 You sound dumb
@@truartist5379 you sound selfish as hell. Your no one without the support of the people around you.
onyx081 🗣PREACHHHHH.’.!!!!!!!
All these older folks complaining! We are of a COMPLETELY different generation from you all. We are not okay with this “black women gotta struggle” crap.
Is that who likes this shit?
Pink pink all these older women talking about how “madea” was the cornerstone of their family. How is acting stereotypical a cornerstone? It’s embarrassing, but when it’s all you know I guess you can’t see it.
Thank you! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@mimireuser5383 that is what we call ignorance. Everybody's entitled to their own informed opinion but not their own ignorance
Lol stereotypical angry black woman
Tyler perry is just too oldschool, i notice a lot of older people love these characters and stereotypes . These ideals are so ingrained in them that they almost find it impossible to comprehend that "blackness" is diverse and complex . This is why i fw with spike lee lol.
My name is my name Lena writes for white people and that’s the main reason why I can’t get into her. She doesn’t fool me with her foolishness. Tyler is ridiculous though.
silvermoonstone6076 lol y’all just tired of the same old black character huh? Y’all wanna move forward and be all weird
@@Dnariobeats1289 Is being black and weird that wild of a concept to you?
Isn't Spike Lee also Old Skool? Whether your embarrassed or not of old school black folks there are some in every hood. Your from where?
@@tdavi3216 old school will always exists, but in a new generation it becomes stale seeing the same stereotypes.spike lee has always taken risks to explore what it means to be black. So i would never call him old school just because he's of an older generation. Its all about being innovative and challenging yourself. Tyler perry always stays safe and it gets predictable and boring.
I always hated the end of Madea's Family Reunion when the Lynn Whitfield character is sort of forgiven by the daughter. I understand Tyler wants to promote the Christian ideal of forgiveness, but the mom didn't even really apologize when she literally threw both her daughters into the arms of abusers.
Omg thank youuuuuu I hate that ending like , kick that woman out !
Totally agree...terrible ending.
I haaaaate the ending so much like omg 😭
I agree. She was awful and selfish.
I get why she forgave her mom it was for herself to be healed and what I understood from that is that when you forgive is for yourself and to heal your own heart, but you can't always wrap up a happy ending in a 200 hour Tyler Perry movie cause there is sooooooo much story detail and build up just for a 5 minute forgiveness scene
Problem #1: THE WIGS!! 😂😂😂
#1 writing
#2 wigs
#3 melodrama
#4 overacting
#5 bad production and quality
#6 everything
Agreed
Yes baby.. because Shemar was a hot mess... Boris was a hot mess... Where do we get these WIGS from...
@@neddings5 my guess is party city
@@ItsRrielle 😂😂😭😭
Tyler Perry’s colorism is so strange to me. In his plays, I can definitely think of several moments where he had the “villain” be a light skinned man and the good man be dark skinned. But when translated to movies, he switched it? I can’t think of one movie where he doesn’t do that. I don’t understand.
My name is my name in his films, most definitely, always! But his plays, from my recollection, it was the opposite. But I definitely could be wrong. It’s been a minute since I’ve seen his plays.
Its hollywood the hollywood undertone of the dark skinned man being the a**hole and the light one being the best option. Just like how men in hip hop worship lighter women over darker women
Dark Magician Girl hollywood wanted that.
Thought I was only one who peep that
Daddy’s girls that was black black
Oh Tyler, writing all your scripts on your own is only impressive if what you're writing IS ACTUALLY GOOD.
😂😂😂 facts. Writing a million books doesn't mean I'm a great author, it means I probably have carpal tunnel and too much time on my hands.
HopSonatra Productions that made me laugh
It is good
Plus the most pivotal scenes in his movies is something he stole from other movies: diary of a mad black woman(ending from officer and a gentleman): I can do bad all by myself (color purple shug Avery church scene), and so on. If you look at his movies, you can find other instances of scene stealing.
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As an older man I must say I was impressed with your insight. As a dark skinned brother I appreciate you recognizing n speaking up about Tyler's tendency to always have the dark skinned brother as the villain in his movies. Hopefully he'll get out of his colorist ways.
Derrick Barnett he had that one light skinned evil guy
@@Dnariobeats1289 what movie was that?
I think it was daddys little girls
Tyler Perry makes sure his male actors are very muscular. Are they taking steroids? The ladies look a hot mess. The First Lady on the Oval her hair and those dresses are horrible and mostly white dresses. One episode last season he had a scene where four black men was shot in the head, for kidnapping the President’s daughter. And Sister episodes the word Bitch is used constantly. Why is it that all the actors want is sex with so many different men? I will not watch the series again , it sucks. The wigs on the actors are awful. U make are black women look stupid. U need help when u are writing the scripts.
Not always
"WORK ETHIC!" nothing to brag about when it's rushed, basic comedy, & the SAME storylines. Easy to write when you're just tweaking characters here & there.
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He needs new content period. Writing the same content about his own people has become stereotypical and pigeon holed.
I'm sick of seeing us struggle with eachother most of the movie as blk men and women, there is never a happy ending except with 'madea' the comedy stuff.
Tyler probably got this content from his personal or surrounding failed relationships - He really need to come see the loving 50 plus year relationships. Shew, Samuel L Jackson and his wife are so funny and adorable...
Nah
@@applefarm6126 yea now stfu
@@laniya6560 I’ll talk if I want
He had a writers room. They tried to unionize or join a guild. He fired them. It seems to correspond with the last of his bearable movies.
Right
Yup
What were his bearable movies 😂?
"I have no writer's room. I write it all." 😂 Trust me, it shows.
Exactly! 😆😃🤣😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can't stand the way he writes men in his movies. They are never in middle ground. Either they far evil or over the top good
Imagine if Pixar used the same writer for all their films
Exactly.
Well techinically they kinda do because Pixar HAS been criticized in the same vein as Perry hahahaha
@@darnellmajor9016, They have similar board screenwriters.
As much as I LOVE bad movies, I don’t watch Tyler Perry movies. They’re very formulaic, to the point where I know how to watch these movies with extended family without commenting much. Watch the set up of the black woman done wrong. Leave and clean the kitchen or nap for a bit. Come back for the last 15 or so minutes to watch the villain get punished and the happy ending. A bad movie isn’t fun for me if it’s too predictable.
DarksideBallerina Diary of a Mad Black Woman was the only one I enjoyed and it was the first one I watched. Literally every other movie is just like that one. Like during the middle of the movie I expect someone to die or get sick in the middle of nowhere, then the movie goes from ridiculous comedy to really sad for a good half hour. Then there is a gospel song and everything is okay.
This is a really good point. There are some really good bad movies critically speaking. Its comfortable for me. Lol.
You are better than me. I can only do a few minutes and I make an excuse to leave.
The singing used to annoy me like dang again they just stopped 10 minutes ago
You and me both. Then the song be 10 min long.
I would always skip em 😭
Every time they started singing I would fast forward 🙂
Same
Yep
I’m sorry this comment has nothing to do with the video but your features are STUNNING.
DAYFLY I’d hit it
right !!!
🤦🏾♂️
She’s very beautiful
Features?
Perry's work nearly always represents the most negative stereotypes of black life, men & women & it began with a "man in a dress" with big breasts overweight spouting abusive smack.
Finally someone has the balls to talk about this
The media don't talk about him because he blackballs anyone who speaks negative on him *Cough* Boondocks *Cough*
Trauma Porn .... that's it that's the comment.
I knew Tyler Perry couldn’t write a script worth a goddamn thing when he got a kids tv show entitled “Young Dylan” greenlit to Nickelodeon. I recently watched it this past Sunday and immediately changed the station to something else because I summarized his writing style within 3 minutes of that show. Tyler needs to hire some new writers. He fucking sucks when it comes to writing scripts. And his Netflix movie shows.
I’ve gotta say, the only good stuff he made were the 2000 movies and plays (most of them). Other than that, everything else after them are bland and way too predictable.
I kinda like Young Dylan though
I agree with you. I just wish he would give more writers and opportunity. He can still be the main but he can let some writers write a few shows. I know he knows how hard it was coming up so I think he should share and put his own folks on. His films prove he needs more than just writers too
He really should! I believe he said he had a writers room and it didn’t work out for various reasons. I just think he just likes his scripts his way
Who was Sarah Baartman
Tyler Perry has the means and the time to actually create great content based around us as black people but he refuses. I encourage other black people to look into black cinematography and film history bc he is not the end all be all and never has been. He just lucked up and got the opportunity to make films on the big screen. His bread and butter is stage plays. There is much more I have to say, but it’s not needed. I enjoyed your video!
I skipped some, of his movies, in the theater because they seemed predictable. I saw them on DVD and I was right. I agree his best movies were Why Did I Get Married (didn't care for the sequel), The Family That Preys, and Daddy's Little Girls.
Part 2 ended stupid
@@phatgirl2121, IMO, it shouldn't have happened. The 1st one ended on a happy note. The only good thing about it was Janet Jackson's acting.
Those are literally the ones I Iiked the most
Tyler is just projecting what black men think of their own women already: we're not worthy of love or anything great unless we suffer for it first
Uh no lol don’t saddle us with Tyler’s writing problems
Tyler Perry writes movies from his own perspective. His movies are written for Fat Black women that don't have a man, but does have a lot of black friends just like her.
Problem is, is people are watching a homosexual man who rob "christian" churches movies that's a part of Hollyweird. Both sexes in the community shit on each other and use the system to solve their issues. No other race (really nationality) of people do it as much as so called black people
O please you fell for his shit
Protecting Us? How?
Lmaoo idk why I bust out laughing when you said “artist can’t be bald?!” 😂😂
He needs someone to vet these scripts because the portrayal of black women in his work is 🙄😒
Along with black men. Safe to say 9/10 of his movies almost always depict the men to be villainous.
I like it
Tyler Perry makes black men look bad, so black women don’t want them. Then he can have all the black men to himself 🌚
Sandra Nicole he also makes black women look bitter and angry
Rofl 😂
It was funnier when charlamagne the God said it on vladtv
Lies...lol
Very immature and unneccsary comment
a basic summary of every tyler perry movie: black woman gets abused by dark skin man, and lightskin man swoops in and saves the day
A lightskin man who loves him some JESUS 😂
He’s trying to translate playwriting skills into movies and tv it just isn’t the same
I agree. His fall from grace reminded me of play as well. The scenes and the directing style. Whatever the lenses they used made me feel like it was cheap. Also, the way they spoke in a lot of scenes. It’s like they weren’t believable to me.
@@shanteelbelieve987 exactly he’s stuck in play write mode poor thing his audience loves it too smh
That hair color looks good on your skintone.
This is literally so perfect because my English research project is on Tyler Perry and all of his “controversies” and “downfall.” I love having more point of views :)
Monique Raven Unrelated but your curls look so beautiful!
I agree. He needs some suspense and mystery. Keep us guessing until the end. The predictability is way too much.
That's real, instead of making us as blk men and women look bad and sorry af throughout the whole thing in damn near every movie
“I mean if you were trying to make him look like a fool, you definitely achieved that” I laughed so hard !!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tyler's best "villain" arguably is Andrea from The Family That Preys.
That is my favorite Tyler Perry movie!
Nah “temptation” but I’m not well versed with his movies
I've been a fan of Tyler's since high school, but comparing House of Payne back in the day to House of Payne the revival is seriously why he needs the writers room back. It's the same actors and actresses but you can tell the scenes are NOT how they use to be, that tv show back then felt like a reality show it was sooo good but now it is so slow and forced dialog.
I thought I was the only one who felt like that. I just can’t get into it.
@@Goheadonwitdat Right and I was too excited when it was coming back but I was like this is so dry of acting
The only movie by Tyler Perry that was "different", was The Family That Preys. It was the only one that didn't remind me of all his other movies.
Right
My family loves Tyler Perry. I hated his movies not only madea being annoying but domestic violence against woman which disgusted me.
I liked it
And honestly, nobody really wants to deal with someone like Madea in real life
16:15
He doesn’t like blk women … women period. He a gay man and that’s why women are always being abused in his movies. Yea he took bits and pieces from his life but STILL. You can tell. One of his plays I think madeas goes to jail… the way he (madea) told that lady as she was coming downstairs that she didn’t like her… the dark skinned wife that was cheating w the friend… that was Tyler talking not madea. Look at his face as he walks up on her. This lady played on the TLC Bio movie as TBozs mom.
Your hair, makeup, and earrings are BUSSIN!!! 😍😍😍
That eyeshadow! I’m gonna try it even tho I’m not a makeup person
Tyler has used sex, cussing, and over dramatics to cover up his lack in writing, and thinks his audience won't know the difference.
The thumbnail w/ all of those bad male lacefront hair do's 😂11:50 WHYYYYYYYY???😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂
Tyler thinks he's a disrespected black woman... Clearly he knows the struggle lol Loved this video. Very informative.
Lol!
Comment of year right there FACTS
Your point that he's coming from a single perspective is spot-on. And it's also why his work is so SINGULAR. I'm not knocking the hustle; I'm happy he found his niche. But a writing team would definitely add more depth and variety.
"the problem with tyler perry movies" THE WIGS. Its the wigs.
Tyler Perry actually stole Madea's likeness from a drag queen who used to be his friend! Look it up...
I thought that it was based off his Aunt. He said his aunt would act like Madea sometimes.
@@ShortymayShortymay That was a lie lol
Miss Sophia
Video taping Ms Sophia at Stars of the Century and using her characters and jokes
I'm Caucasian and stay in my Lane completely. BUT I've been saying this for years. I feel like he wants us to laugh AT, not With his characters. He paints the African American Male as always cheating or hurt by a horrible past. And the Women, he portrays to be so weak and helpless. Every Black Woman I've met are the absolute opposite of that. They are incredibly independent, STRONG and Divinely Beautiful. Just my opinion.
The ending to “Why Did I Get Married Too?” Where the husband was killed in a crash after the argument he had with his wife is the only part of a Tyler Perry movie that got me. It taught me no matter how bad things are and how much you dislike someone be nice to them often because you never know when they’re going to die after they leave the driveway.
😅😅. Sorry , but this was funny
I absolute agree. When Madea isn't involved it's much better quality.
Nah
I'm so glad this popped up in my recommended 😂😂😂
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Tyler Perry is overrated. Madea movies are like Ernest movies. Same lame ass characters. Shit just ain’t funny. It’s just over done.
I’m glad it’s a black female seeing the same thing I’ve been saying since day one. His movies are limited.
17:52 that makes a lot of sense. The whole point of calling people out and pointing out their mistakes is for them to learn and grow from them.
His movies are like an unintentional version of Black Dynamite.
Hate to tell you, but the airplane scene is realistic. I used to work with domestic violence survivors and things like that happened to them.
It was never a play...,but “ A Family That Preys “ is one of favorite movies from Tyler Perry. That movie deserves a sequel...,but I wouldn’t want Tyler to ruin it.
That is my favorite as well
I think you need to remember that many narcissists are like the man in A FALL FROM GRACE... in the way that they do switch up from "love bombing" to completely villainous and blaming others for what's happening. People may think it's exaggerated until they go through this with a family member, old "friend", boss or coworker, and/or love interest. This part is SERIOUSLY "true to life".
He was beaten with a bat & showed up with a band-aid on
Air food for $200 alex🤣
😂😂😂what is the best “mime eater” in a Comedy nominee
My most favorite Tyler Perry play was "Madea Goes to Jail" that play made me laugh from start to finish.
Temptation was a good movie but that ending needed to be rewritten. Why did every character stay the same but Jurnee Smollett was switched out with Candace Coke...Bryce aged with grey hair but Melinda (Brandy) didn’t age at all....even still till this day i cannot figure out why that was done
If Jurnee was the marriage counselor, it would have given away the ending. I think that's why it was done like that. Brandy should've aged though.
Tyler did NOT direct the first movie Diary of a Mad Black Woman. This is why it comes across better than his other films.
Tyler recently went back and tried to fix A Fall From Grace on Netflix. He actually re-edited it and Netflix replaced the old version with the remix. It still doesn't help.
Tyler's problem is RUSH, RUSH, RUSH. He brags about making these movies fast. A Fall From Grace was made in four days... and it shows.
I remember he said he could make an entire season of one of his tv shows in a couple weeks
@@curtisthomas2670 Exactly. He's a good business man, and I admire him for having his own studio, but he's producing garbage. A prime example is Madea Boo 2. That movie cost $25 million to make, but when you watch it, none of that money is on the screen. It looks cheap. Tyler pocketed $20 million and used the other $5 million to makes the movie (if that much) and the fact that it's a terrible movie makes it even worse.
T. Perry is his own biggest fan. That man doesn't know the meaning of being humble.
There is certainly a demographic Tyler Perry is reaching because that group is eating it up. I'm not one of them
I died when she said it's unrealistic for someone to bust out singing after an argument in a play.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
15:34 someone talked about that exact trope on Twitter and I was like “Madea’s Family Reunion?” And they were like “no Diary of a Mad Black Woman” and I was like... is this a trend for him..?
I have to disagree with you on one aspect. My grandmother was a real life Madea before this character came along. She was known to hem people up in a heartbeat all across our city, be in church and have to move the gun in her purse to hand you a piece of candy. But she also opened her home to those needing rest, food a ride, clothes. She was a difficult person to put in a box.
If he’s trying to put black people on the map, he needs to understand that not everyone is an actor! There are great black writers out there as well that can make his movies and shows MUCH MUCH better!
I'm a white girl and even I think he did Shemar Moore wrong. 😭 OMG the jealousy is real!!!
The public will let you know when you ain't poppin anymore. Eventually he's going to loose his audience in time.
I've always said that some of the older movies were better based on the strength of the cast, and I'm glad you picked it out. I've been revisiting the Why Did I Get Married's so my youngest brother could experience for the first time and they really do hold up. (Same for the Family that Preys, Brown Sugar, Daddy's Girls etc.)
Brown Sugar? Lmao! That's nowhere near a Tyler Perry movie.
@@kendallrivers1119 oh it’s not? My bad 😂😂 I’m over here giving Tyler credit for something he didn’t even do
Thanks for your rant, Queen. I can't stand Tyler Perry. I never understood why so many Black people like his films. He can't write a screenplay to save his life. He got started doing these 'gospel' stage plays and it shows. His movies are all the same, with abusive Black men and angry Black women. I didn't like the fact he always made dark skinned men the villains and light skin men the heroes.
And the Madea character....Why did he think it was cool to play a grandma? But his audiences loved it. 🤦🏿♂️ His films are full of stereotypes and buffoonery . He set back Black film one hundred years. I am so glad we got people like Ry Coogler to give us a different vision of Blackness.
Tyler Perry’s work is like Doritos. It fulfills an immediate hunger (to see Black folks on screen), but it’s not the healthiest or most engaging thing you could consume. But it has its place. If you want that full rich steak meal film experience, you should look at someone else’s output.
"Xtra XTRA EXTRA ashy" She had a lot of fun describing Mr. Brown haha
Edit: Im sorry but I was dying when you were coming for these movies lmao
GIRL I've been waiting on this one. Girl the wigs and the powder on browns knees🤣🤣
It took me a while but I hope you enjoy 💖
Love the look btw! Also great balanced perspective
Thanks!
If you've seen one Tyler Perry movie, you have pretty much seen them all. They all start and end the same way.
Girl, I am loving that lipstick. Your face it beat!! What is the lip source? Do share!
Lol I guess she doesn't share🤣, it's been a year
You are nasty!!!
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I liked his old stuff because it made sense. The content was better. If he gives other writers a chance to write for him his work can still be great. I believe when he writes for his own shows and movies, people see that he is overwhelmed with costumes and other things on set. We all can see his work lacking quality content. Watching anything Tyler Perry isn't worth my time anymore
I love love Tyler! But I really need him to get help.... all his shows and movies have the same perspective when they could be different. I want to love Sistas but between the writing and the acting I am over it! #tylerperry #writinghelpnow #imtired
If he never made the character Madea no one would watch his shows or movies
Art with Tam K ok and? That’s his character
I was just taking to my friend about the bad wigs in Tyler Perry movies 😅😂 and the poor writing. Love this video! Liked itB
They are awful lol
You also forgot that all his villains are dark skinned
Nope she mentioned that too
"The dark-skinned bald man from Law & Order"
@@j.d.t.5761😂
Actually, I was getting ready to tear this review up, but your critiques are pretty spot-on and fair.
Good job!
I love how you dissected this topic!! But in all honesty, I know a few people who are exactly like Jill Scotts’s husband in Why Did I Get Married? It’s unfortunate, but I think he hit the nail on the head. Especially, when regarding men who shamelessly neglect and abuse their partner. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Thankyou thankyou thankyou for saying this.. there are men out here MUCH worse than even he was. She just hasn't experienced it so she doesn't know. He pulls these stories from people he has known alot of times so its very real.
@@queendom8752 But all of his movies and shows have this same exact set up.
@@mariahyohannes 🤷🏽♀️ ok so he uses those same people and creates different scenarios.. that might even make him more brilliant
@@queendom8752 I don't call firing your writers because you refuse to compensate them brilliant. I don't call making every single movie you have showcasing black struggle love brilliant?????
@@mariahyohannes if he found ways to use the same stories and still make extreme capital he absolutely is brilliant. Now that isn't to say those of us who keep buying it are such. But then again maybe thats the point. That's what people WANT to see from him. Atleast the ones that continue to support it. He isn't a millionaire for nothing. He's not going to stop because people are critical of that if it's still making him money.
just a side note thta in why didi I get married Jill Scott's savior is a darkskinned man.
He was brown skin he was lighter than Mike who was dark so not really
Omg the wigs! I can’t get past them.
Btw I love your makeup!
Thank you for addressing this. I’ve been wondering for the longest, what’s up with the bad wigs for the guys. I thought maybe he wanted them to look different from real life, but yes the wigs are distracting. I couldn’t get into the last movie falling from grace because of it. I don’t make movies, so somebody please explain the hair thing to me. I needed the 😂.
The movie was shot in 5 days so they had to resort to the nearest local Dollor Tree for wigs 😂
Kmsl.... They tried to pull a Darryl in 'coming to America' except that was his real hair
@@touyaslilblueflame6815 not dollar tree 🤣😭😭😭.
The one movie that I liked was Good Deeds because no character was black and white good or evil. So many of the movies would have been better if characters had been fleshed out more
I.e. Get more and better writers.
The fact that I’m watching a Tyler Perry movie as I’m watching this video 💀
That was a Tyler Perry level audio edit 19:05 - 19:22. It's not tearing him down to ask him to step up his level of production. He's not renting studios and editing rooms now he has plenty of time to get shyte right. Tyler is not above criticism.
Tyler Perry is singlehandedly setting us back *centuries*
Dark-skinned villain vs lightskined savior wow never noticed that
Why did he have paint splattered on his shirt when he was supposed to be a photographer?
The way I describe Tyler Perry movies to people who have never seen them: Picture one of those really serious dramatic movies about the daily struggles of black people, like Fences, or The color purple, or Boyz n the hood, or A raisin in the sun, you get the picture. OK, now imagine watching any and all of those films, exactly as they are.....except every fifteen minutes, the Klumps from The nutty professor movies randomly show up.
You left out Blair Underwood
That man has too much money to NOT be able to get a REAL stylist, but instead he’d rather continue to put these actors/actresses in those hard ass hair hats😂😂😂
I was just about to say the earring sis where can I get them
I normally can't sit through something like this but I appreciate your perspective and your delivery. You ain't hard to look at either. Lol. We watchin'.
It's always the same story. What I hate about his movies is that he blames the woman for their problems. One movie I saw a little girl was always abused and neglected and had to fend for her brothers and nearly gets raped by an older man. "Madea" tells this girl she has an attitude and needs to grow up. Like TF?! Girl is abused and traumatized and is the way she is for a reason. Forgot the name of the movie
The movie name is “I can be bad all by myself “