Chrollo says he needed the treasures to evolve his ability so I am guessing it may enable him to have his own nen beast holding the book for him while using double face or even unlimited abilities at the same time.
There is a mention in the chapter about the relics being held in a "focal point" of the ship. So, if an item was to be displaced from there (Meditating Buddha), it could possibly create a scenario in which the boundary of dark hands that killed Kacho shifts into the Black Whale. And a prince could die because of those, even though he would not be attempting an escape. You know, like a moving safe bubble
That would be very interesting, more interesting than just remove them and its over. I think there may be a condition where the treasures cant be destroyed until the current succession war is over, kinda like the condition on Gon's tape recorder
Togashi reminded us how great his art really is with some random sewers, lol, and loved seeing so much Chrollo with his thoughts and especially that one image was so peak plus his nen GPS tracking someone for that confrontation and still needs the sacred treasures as well that's a lot to do frfr
I think it’s pretty telling that Nobunaga keeps comparing the Heil-ly to themselves, I don’t think he’s underestimating them but I definitely think Feitan and Phinks are
The reason why Chrollo needs to steal the treasures first before the ability is because apparently it's an incredibly rare and powerful Nen ability and Skill Hunter needs to be leveled up to steal it and a condition to level up skill hunter is apparently stealing shit, the rarer the shit he steals the more it levels up
Nobunaga splitting up with Phinks and Feitan made me nervous AF. Like, why?! Based on Morena's arrangements, Phinks and Feiten will meet the less powerful members. I think they'll encounter the same set of guys Nobunaga and Hinrigh did. However, Nobunaga might encounter those 3 levelled up members while conversing with Hinrigh.
I think we now have a reason for a Chrollo/Kurapika team up if Chrollo can get access to the mummy it should stop the succession war if it is what controlling the ritual since Kurapika mentioned they has to be something that decides boundaries of the ritual so it must be at some nen focal point so removing it should at least take down the barrier that kills people so Woble and the other younger princes could survive
Another dense chapter yet Togashi makes it feel so seamless Whatever happens in the lower tiers will most definitely engulf the succession war and by the looks of it, Chrollo could be the inevitable instigator
I think Chrollo's ability for stealing techniques ties to his main power which scales in comparison to his heists. Pulling off the heist of the century would unlock his next tier in power and let him use his book at a higher level.
What i get from this chrollo => find the partner who can lead to the treasure room => steal the treasure to upgrade skill hunter => get the ability to kill hisoka
Your interpretations and thoughts you take away with chapters are always really interesting I feel like I learn something new everytime I see your videos!!
What I undersood from the spanish translation about the nen skill that Chrolo wants to overkill Hisoka is he wants the ability from one of the national treasures, the guardian one I supose, that probably is the one that killed Kacho with those spooky hands.
The girl with the vacuum cleaner is alone nobo not with her chrollo is solo And she would die alone in a dark place filled with stuff maybe it said treasure not sure
My theory is chrollo wants to steal the Kakin treasures upgrade his skill book so that he can acquire more post mortem men abilities and the one he wants to take is hisokas and then kill him. Where he’ll still have the ability even after hisoka is dead and hisoka can’t use it to revive himself.
I can't wait to see what happens at the funeral but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we just switch to something like Kurapika's nen class next chapter lol
He needs to destroy the nen puppet Hisoka is, he needs to put him on setsu or destroy him to dust like Gon did with Pitou he needs a) setsu state ability from Kurapica b) a destructive power like Gon's c) Nen after death power.
@dontbothertoreply9755 we will see how the battle gonna be fought after we are finished with succession arc and continuing on spider conflict on the way to take dark continent.
Chrollo didnt use their abilities vs Hisoka. Krotopi and shalnark were litterally in the covers of the crowd using their abilities to attack Hisoka. Chrollo asked shalnark if he wanted his needles back. If chrollo stole shalnarks ability why would he need HIS needles! Great videos keep them comin!!! Theres tons of proof that chrollo was fighting along side other spiders! He didnt use their abilities Thanks for the great videos!
Sounds EXCUSES😂 why tf they help Chrollo that would make Chrollo weak the leader of the famouse troupe😂 if they want to help Chrollo they all can just jump him. And besides that EXCUSES got debunked a long time ago. JUST MOVE ON😂
@Edogawa199X deff wasnt debunked, its a fact it was a 4v1. Machi told hisoka to pick the location battle more carefully. Hisoka doesnt just kill people for no reason, especially 2 people. Oh ya so chrollo was just perfectly honest to hisoka and told him exactly how his nen works bc hes such a nice guy hahaha. Riggght.
Halkenburg followers who have they nen awakened do to his arrow are looking mighty juicy right now for any of Morena followers 120 levels just sitting around carrying Halkenburgs body with very little ways to defend themselves since non of them really know how to use nen
I think it'll be Kurapika helping Chrollo to get what he needs to level up, which helps defeat Hisoka...then Kurapika needing Chrollo to defeat Tserri...then both becoming allies throughout their adventures on the Dark Continent. Everyone keeps talking like most major characters will die without considering who will be left for Dark Continent explorations. IMO, there'll be way fewer deaths than expected. However, Togashi will make them as impactful as possible.
@@Tomiwa101 you are right. We need to remember that Togashi isnt a character killer and theres always fewer deaths than we expect (a great argument against the people who think killing characters=good writing)
@@Lhiet Exactly. Plus, not one major character has been killed off. He ain't no GRR Martin lol. Ultimately, Togashi doesn't kill for shock value. He makes the deaths integral to the plot in ways we can never predict. See the impact of Lynch's to the dynamics in this arc? Who would have thought. Togashi is a freaking genius.
Honestly... I'm brewing a crackpot theory that Chrollo is one of Beyond's children and he plans to make him the next king. Chrollo's backstory shows him as a great leader. He's shown an ambivalence about his purpose in life which could stem from him finding the nen curse that's in the mouths of Beyond's kids. Not much solid evidence for this at all, but just have a weird hunch that Chrollo is connected to the Succession war somehow.
Beyond is not that handsome who was her mother? An angel, well, there is a woman that beautiful and with genes that strong, remember Killua's mother Kikyo is from Meteor City and she is also gorgeous, that may be tho. What I think from those genetics is that they were a royal family somewhere or a shaman family that was outcasted or persecuted and Chrollo belongs to it same as Kykio, that explains why they are so powerful with nen? Why they look so beautifull? Why are they so praised and achieve royalty status with ease, Kykio is basically a Queen and Chrollo is threated as a King, explains why their genes are so strong? (Kykio's descendants just have one simple member that resembles the Zoldyck with Killua) and why they tend to be out of their minds?, some kind of Juana la Loca dynasty. The nen proficiency or a certain reason made Silva pick up her, and her genes are so strong, also for some reason they kept having kids after Killua, Alluka may be incidental but not Kalluto, Zoldyck's powers also are martial arts based, Silva, Killua and Zeno for example, weirder more diabolical skills appeared due to Kykio, Illumi, Alluka or Kalluto with that weird setsu beyond any spider member for example, Kykio's dynasty attacks are long range while Zoldyck's are face to face, Silva or Maha for example, they have that long range approach also they are physiclly weaker, Alluka, Milluki, Kykio herself and even Illumi getting an arm broken by Gon, also herself being so damaged by just Killua without nen, similar to how weak Chrollo's attacks are compared to Gon or even Hisoka, also that book the skill hunter is a magical book strong enough to hold powers such as Leon's or sun and moon, a weird more diabolical ability similar to Alluka's, so to wrap it up, there is a final thing, Silva fought Chrollo and pretty much I am sure he saw some resemblance to Kikyo did he fail because they were on par? or did he fail because he didn't want to take him down for some reason? That would explain his decision to protect the spider from the Zoldyck family. Their bloodline produced normies like Milluki and Alluka but also monsters like Illumi or Kalluto, remember Illumi scores higher for Hisoka than any member of the spider or the zodiacs except from Chrollo the lost child and highest ranked member on Hisoka's score.
I love Togashi but some of the decisions he’s making for the characters doesn’t make a lot of sense. For example, having all of the troupe member split up. I understand he’s doing that so they can be killed off one by one, but it so predictable and unwise for them to do so. Especially after Bono and Shizuku both opted to stay with Chrollo originally. Neither of them can take Hisoka on their own so they should at least be together. Then there’s the topic of if Chrollo can beat Hisoka again. This seems so odd to even question this, let a lone Togashi writing that Chrollo needs a new ability to beat him. Chrollo totally dominated Hisoka during their last fight and barely broke a sweat, but now Hisoka is suddenly so strong that Chrollo can’t beat him as he is now? I just can’t buy this and I don’t think this is consistent writing from Togashi. I could only see chrollo worrying about this if he lost all the abilities in his book or something and had to start fresh.
That’s just you glazing chrollo. Chrollo lost two of the abilities that were crucial in beating hisoka. He also made hisoka fight under his perfect conditions, so he had an overt advantage. He understands that hisoka could be much stronger after coming back from the dead. Togashi is cooking, and you’re just not keeping up
@ I think this is actually you over estimating Hisoka. It was never stated that Chrollo needed those abilities to beat him, but rather it appeared he did so just to guarantee there was 0% chance Hisoka could win (like killing a spider with a flame thrower, complete over kill). And the conditions they fought under favored chrollo but it wasn’t like he ambushed Hisoka or “cheated” like some Hisoka fans like to claim. Hisoka being stronger is from the PMN power up is one thing, him going from absolutely not standing a chance, to him guaranteed beating chrollo (as what Togashi is seemingly implying by chrollo feeling that he needs to get a new ability to beat him) in a matter of a few weeks in the story is what I’m objecting to.
The Black Whale is actually so big so splitting up is efficient plus Chrollo prioritizes easy mobility for the Troupe, if they dont split up Phantom Troupe will take a long time to find Hisoka plus some of the members are confident in their abilites. But some members are arent like Shizuku and Bonolenov, they join Chrollo however he tasked them to do something so they split up temporarily.
Togashi has been on fire recently 🔥🔥🔥
Ah no! someone put him out! He just got off hiatus!!!🔥😱🔥
Recently??
Chrollo says he needed the treasures to evolve his ability so I am guessing it may enable him to have his own nen beast holding the book for him while using double face or even unlimited abilities at the same time.
Yes. Would love that
There is a mention in the chapter about the relics being held in a "focal point" of the ship. So, if an item was to be displaced from there (Meditating Buddha), it could possibly create a scenario in which the boundary of dark hands that killed Kacho shifts into the Black Whale. And a prince could die because of those, even though he would not be attempting an escape. You know, like a moving safe bubble
That would be very interesting, more interesting than just remove them and its over. I think there may be a condition where the treasures cant be destroyed until the current succession war is over, kinda like the condition on Gon's tape recorder
Togashi reminded us how great his art really is with some random sewers, lol, and loved seeing so much Chrollo with his thoughts and especially that one image was so peak plus his nen GPS tracking someone for that confrontation and still needs the sacred treasures as well that's a lot to do frfr
The goat I agree
I think it’s pretty telling that Nobunaga keeps comparing the Heil-ly to themselves, I don’t think he’s underestimating them but I definitely think Feitan and Phinks are
Chrollo using NEN-Tinder and keep getting left on read.
HE'S LITERALLY ME FR FR
The reason why Chrollo needs to steal the treasures first before the ability is because apparently it's an incredibly rare and powerful Nen ability and Skill Hunter needs to be leveled up to steal it and a condition to level up skill hunter is apparently stealing shit, the rarer the shit he steals the more it levels up
If his match is up on tier 1 odds are the kakin treasures are on tier 1 as well, with that it literally is killing 2 birds with 1 stone
That makes sense, I don't think we have seen all the conditions for it yet. And his bookmark ability might have come with other conditions as well
Glad someone else thought Soprano's lmfao.
Waste management? It's a stereotype, and it's offensive.
Man, I love the way you comment on new chapters so much. Honestly thank you for doing all this. Your passion and vibe is just the best
It's amazing how this manga is getting wilder every chapter. Thank you for this video, Ryan. It's always wonderful to hear your thoughts.
Why is halkenburg getting a huge funeral, but no one gave a shit about Sale?🤣
Halkenburg well liked and he did ask for it tbf as his last wishes
Sale is not officially dead. Nobody announced this death. Not that this would matter lol
lol it's so true.
I've seen feral cats get better processions than Sale 😂😂
waste management that's brought some memories
Uncle Ben’s rice
just because you are in wast management everbody assumes you are mobbed up
Nobunaga splitting up with Phinks and Feitan made me nervous AF. Like, why?!
Based on Morena's arrangements, Phinks and Feiten will meet the less powerful members. I think they'll encounter the same set of guys Nobunaga and Hinrigh did.
However, Nobunaga might encounter those 3 levelled up members while conversing with Hinrigh.
Nobunaga would obliterate them dont you worry. Theres a reason why Togashi still dont show his power
I think we now have a reason for a Chrollo/Kurapika team up if Chrollo can get access to the mummy it should stop the succession war if it is what controlling the ritual since Kurapika mentioned they has to be something that decides boundaries of the ritual so it must be at some nen focal point so removing it should at least take down the barrier that kills people so Woble and the other younger princes could survive
Another dense chapter yet Togashi makes it feel so seamless
Whatever happens in the lower tiers will most definitely engulf the succession war and by the looks of it, Chrollo could be the inevitable instigator
I think Chrollo's ability for stealing techniques ties to his main power which scales in comparison to his heists. Pulling off the heist of the century would unlock his next tier in power and let him use his book at a higher level.
We’re foggin cookin lads. Shit is finally bouta hit the fan 😈😈
Chrollo is who beyond wanted to talk to and that is why he needs the items for beyond and he is going to use a curse for chrollo
Not adding up at all.
Wonder what the connection is between the two
What i get from this chrollo => find the partner who can lead to the treasure room => steal the treasure to upgrade skill hunter => get the ability to kill hisoka
Word is that Shizuku might be next since back in YorkNew her fortune told of her death after Shalnark.
Damnn.. what chapter was that said?
These chapters have been so good! Thank you for your consistent reviews. I’d probably be kind of lost without them.
Your interpretations and thoughts you take away with chapters are always really interesting I feel like I learn something new everytime I see your videos!!
Hisoka is a nen puppet, obviously is the steal chain from Kurapica.
What I undersood from the spanish translation about the nen skill that Chrolo wants to overkill Hisoka is he wants the ability from one of the national treasures, the guardian one I supose, that probably is the one that killed Kacho with those spooky hands.
After that scene of Chrollo being proud of his spider I do wonder if he will end up watching the Troupe getting put down
Crackpot theory: Bill is a magical beast. In fact he is the Guide to the Dark Continent. He is just in disguised as a human right now.
The girl with the vacuum cleaner is alone nobo not with her chrollo is solo
And she would die alone in a dark place filled with stuff maybe it said treasure not sure
My theory is chrollo wants to steal the Kakin treasures upgrade his skill book so that he can acquire more post mortem men abilities and the one he wants to take is hisokas and then kill him. Where he’ll still have the ability even after hisoka is dead and hisoka can’t use it to revive himself.
Hisoka cantacted one of the princes to tell him that bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum
What if Chrollo is planning to steal emperor time? Or at the very least arbiter little finger.
Do you think Sheila will meet chrollo once more before he dies?
Heil-ly probably going to soften up some of the powerful troupe members and Hisoka will come in for cleaner kills.
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waited for your review, keep up the good work
I can't wait to see what happens at the funeral but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we just switch to something like Kurapika's nen class next chapter lol
Wasn't corollo already broken? but now he is gonna level up beyond reason
He needs to destroy the nen puppet Hisoka is, he needs to put him on setsu or destroy him to dust like Gon did with Pitou he needs a) setsu state ability from Kurapica b) a destructive power like Gon's c) Nen after death power.
@dontbothertoreply9755 we will see how the battle gonna be fought after we are finished with succession arc and continuing on spider conflict on the way to take dark continent.
Chrollo didnt use their abilities vs Hisoka. Krotopi and shalnark were litterally in the covers of the crowd using their abilities to attack Hisoka. Chrollo asked shalnark if he wanted his needles back. If chrollo stole shalnarks ability why would he need HIS needles! Great videos keep them comin!!! Theres tons of proof that chrollo was fighting along side other spiders! He didnt use their abilities
Thanks for the great videos!
Sounds EXCUSES😂 why tf they help Chrollo that would make Chrollo weak the leader of the famouse troupe😂 if they want to help Chrollo they all can just jump him. And besides that EXCUSES got debunked a long time ago. JUST MOVE ON😂
@Edogawa199X deff wasnt debunked, its a fact it was a 4v1. Machi told hisoka to pick the location battle more carefully. Hisoka doesnt just kill people for no reason, especially 2 people. Oh ya so chrollo was just perfectly honest to hisoka and told him exactly how his nen works bc hes such a nice guy hahaha. Riggght.
Halkenburg followers who have they nen awakened do to his arrow are looking mighty juicy right now for any of Morena followers 120 levels just sitting around carrying Halkenburgs body with very little ways to defend themselves since non of them really know how to use nen
Does chrollo’s book absorb the treasures if successfully stolen?
Saw this on X but Chrollo/Kurapika vs Tseri/Hisoka would be siiick
It's hard to tell though with togashis story telling
@ agreed. It’s just fun to speculate
I think it'll be Kurapika helping Chrollo to get what he needs to level up, which helps defeat Hisoka...then Kurapika needing Chrollo to defeat Tserri...then both becoming allies throughout their adventures on the Dark Continent.
Everyone keeps talking like most major characters will die without considering who will be left for Dark Continent explorations. IMO, there'll be way fewer deaths than expected. However, Togashi will make them as impactful as possible.
@@Tomiwa101 you are right. We need to remember that Togashi isnt a character killer and theres always fewer deaths than we expect (a great argument against the people who think killing characters=good writing)
@@Lhiet Exactly. Plus, not one major character has been killed off. He ain't no GRR Martin lol.
Ultimately, Togashi doesn't kill for shock value. He makes the deaths integral to the plot in ways we can never predict. See the impact of Lynch's to the dynamics in this arc? Who would have thought. Togashi is a freaking genius.
we need a fight next chapter
Yeah I agree someone is dying again.
Honestly... I'm brewing a crackpot theory that Chrollo is one of Beyond's children and he plans to make him the next king. Chrollo's backstory shows him as a great leader. He's shown an ambivalence about his purpose in life which could stem from him finding the nen curse that's in the mouths of Beyond's kids.
Not much solid evidence for this at all, but just have a weird hunch that Chrollo is connected to the Succession war somehow.
Beyond is not that handsome who was her mother? An angel, well, there is a woman that beautiful and with genes that strong, remember Killua's mother Kikyo is from Meteor City and she is also gorgeous, that may be tho.
What I think from those genetics is that they were a royal family somewhere or a shaman family that was outcasted or persecuted and Chrollo belongs to it same as Kykio, that explains why they are so powerful with nen? Why they look so beautifull? Why are they so praised and achieve royalty status with ease, Kykio is basically a Queen and Chrollo is threated as a King, explains why their genes are so strong? (Kykio's descendants just have one simple member that resembles the Zoldyck with Killua) and why they tend to be out of their minds?, some kind of Juana la Loca dynasty.
The nen proficiency or a certain reason made Silva pick up her, and her genes are so strong, also for some reason they kept having kids after Killua, Alluka may be incidental but not Kalluto, Zoldyck's powers also are martial arts based, Silva, Killua and Zeno for example, weirder more diabolical skills appeared due to Kykio, Illumi, Alluka or Kalluto with that weird setsu beyond any spider member for example, Kykio's dynasty attacks are long range while Zoldyck's are face to face, Silva or Maha for example, they have that long range approach also they are physiclly weaker, Alluka, Milluki, Kykio herself and even Illumi getting an arm broken by Gon, also herself being so damaged by just Killua without nen, similar to how weak Chrollo's attacks are compared to Gon or even Hisoka, also that book the skill hunter is a magical book strong enough to hold powers such as Leon's or sun and moon, a weird more diabolical ability similar to Alluka's, so to wrap it up, there is a final thing, Silva fought Chrollo and pretty much I am sure he saw some resemblance to Kikyo did he fail because they were on par? or did he fail because he didn't want to take him down for some reason? That would explain his decision to protect the spider from the Zoldyck family.
Their bloodline produced normies like Milluki and Alluka but also monsters like Illumi or Kalluto, remember Illumi scores higher for Hisoka than any member of the spider or the zodiacs except from Chrollo the lost child and highest ranked member on Hisoka's score.
NARRATIVELY, it makes a lot of sense for the perfect partner to just be hisoka, esp considering hisoka's earlier little monologue
No, it doesn’t. Chrollo has said he used it in Heaven’s Arena, and there wasn’t a match nearby. He’s looking for someone with a specific ability.
I love Togashi but some of the decisions he’s making for the characters doesn’t make a lot of sense. For example, having all of the troupe member split up. I understand he’s doing that so they can be killed off one by one, but it so predictable and unwise for them to do so. Especially after Bono and Shizuku both opted to stay with Chrollo originally. Neither of them can take Hisoka on their own so they should at least be together.
Then there’s the topic of if Chrollo can beat Hisoka again. This seems so odd to even question this, let a lone Togashi writing that Chrollo needs a new ability to beat him. Chrollo totally dominated Hisoka during their last fight and barely broke a sweat, but now Hisoka is suddenly so strong that Chrollo can’t beat him as he is now?
I just can’t buy this and I don’t think this is consistent writing from Togashi. I could only see chrollo worrying about this if he lost all the abilities in his book or something and had to start fresh.
That’s just you glazing chrollo. Chrollo lost two of the abilities that were crucial in beating hisoka. He also made hisoka fight under his perfect conditions, so he had an overt advantage. He understands that hisoka could be much stronger after coming back from the dead. Togashi is cooking, and you’re just not keeping up
@ I think this is actually you over estimating Hisoka. It was never stated that Chrollo needed those abilities to beat him, but rather it appeared he did so just to guarantee there was 0% chance Hisoka could win (like killing a spider with a flame thrower, complete over kill). And the conditions they fought under favored chrollo but it wasn’t like he ambushed Hisoka or “cheated” like some Hisoka fans like to claim.
Hisoka being stronger is from the PMN power up is one thing, him going from absolutely not standing a chance, to him guaranteed beating chrollo (as what Togashi is seemingly implying by chrollo feeling that he needs to get a new ability to beat him) in a matter of a few weeks in the story is what I’m objecting to.
The Black Whale is actually so big so splitting up is efficient plus Chrollo prioritizes easy mobility for the Troupe, if they dont split up Phantom Troupe will take a long time to find Hisoka plus some of the members are confident in their abilites. But some members are arent like Shizuku and Bonolenov, they join Chrollo however he tasked them to do something so they split up temporarily.