Does water height matter? Tuning for optimal protein skimmer performance. | BRStv Investigates
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- Hard time trying to find that sweet spot for your internal protein skimmer? Today we start a series of protein skimmer tests to finally get some REAL answers into the best ways to optimize protein skimmer performance on our reef tanks!
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It is consistently impressive how he *nails* Ryan's speech inflection on every episode
Sam Giesbrecht it’s almost creepy isn’t it
@@glennrudolph There used to be another guy that did the videos a couple years back for a short time. They gave the poor guy such a hard time in the comments sections for sounding like Ryan. That's not a bad thing.
I think all of the guys present the information well. In the earlier videos, even Ryan didn't sound like Ryan. Obviously, they have found a formula that works with these videos.
Greego who, RT? I miss that guy. Yeah, long haired Ryan B. is long gone haha
Glenn Rudolph Yeah, I was speaking of RT. I liked RT.
Most informative and clear reefing videos on UA-cam! Great video as always!
Finally a good skimmer video. Thanks you guys are the best
looking forward to more videos like this. since im in the process of deciding which skimmer to get for my next build.
Thank you SO much for the video. Much needed.
Please include recirculating skimmer as well, but probably not by depth, but by input flow rate.
I think before tests like this, we need answers about water air ratio first. Is more air draw actually means better performance?
chicken or the egg :)
Kind of my question too. What does air draw even impact? If you get less water in the pump, then you are going to need a bigger skimmer for your water volume.
I have a Deltec MC500 in the back chamber of the RSM C250.
If I leave the air valve 100% open, there is too much air drawn in for the pumps flow rate and the foam collapses. If I turn the knob only halfway through, I get better foam.
I assume the flow rate of the pump gets split in between water and air flow rate. Too much air to water ratio results in less foam.
It is true that without any water flow there would be no Venturi to draw air in.
For me, the main ways to get consistent skimmate in the above setup was to ensure a constant water level with ATO level switch in the back chamber and to keep the air flow tap at 45° out of 90° from fully open to closed.
Great video! Good information. 👍🏻
Awesome how long do they take to pull 1cup of skimmate out of tank.
I run my Reef Octopus 110SSS in 8" of water. Looks like its right where it needs to be.
Btw Randy, I have the Skimz
SM167. It would also be incredibly helpful if you could explain the operation of the controller on these things and what role they play in the over all functionality of the skimmer.
Another timely video. My skimmer is a real pain. But the question I have is how does air draw impact performance at removing waste? So we just want the most air draw or does this just mean I have to set the skimmer differently?
All great questions leading to more and more testing! I think by the time we're done testing skimmer performance we will all be better informed about these same exact questions. ;)
Not sure what we are to do with this information?? I have the Somatic 60s. When running within the suggested depth. I'm my case I have a Eshops sump that only gives a seven inch depth. I can not run the skimmer without it dumping tons of bubbles into the sump. As you see in the quick shot towards the end of the video. I got the skimmer just after Christmas. The skimmer is set on top of a ~3.5 rise. So the skimmer is only running in 3.5-4 inches of water with the gate less than 50%. Skimms a ton of dark skim mate. But I don't see it running at suggested depth.
Does length of airline tubing have any effect on air draw
Can you guys test the Vertex 180i skimmer? I think this a popular midlevel skimmer. I would be intrested to see how those higher end Bubbleking skimmers perform.
Newbie question. With the excess waste water that drains from the protein skimmer collection cup. Does this contain salt from the water? Is it best to catch & remove that excess water that drains from the skimmer rather than let it drain back into the sump? Keep up the good work as the BRS You Tube channel is my first port of call when I want to find out something to do with salt water aquariums.
The skimmate does contain saltwater, so I suppose on a long enough timeline, salinity could become an issue. That said, with semi-regular water changes and testing, we can counteract the very minimal salinity swing
hey where was the air inlet set on the eshoops x120? closed , full open , half.
I'm running a Reef Octopus 110SSS but the Somatic had 3X air flow - Does that matter? Would anyone switch skimmers because of this?
Would specific gravity make a difference as well?
Love your vids !! And indd the dept makes difference!
8:53 you can use damsels in your skimmer to increase efficiency
Haha! Just the reflection in the acrylic, but sure looked like he was inside the skimmer!
Did you guys make a video on which skimmer is the quietest?
This isn't something that we've explored yet, but the Reef Octopus skimmers with the Regal pumps seem to be one of the best options in terms of noise level.
@@BRStv Thank you for your reply. Odd question. Are pumps on Reef Octopus skimmers interchangeable? I've got a Reef Octopus 150 (I think that's west it's called) that's about 9 years old and it's big pump has always been very loud.
Nyos, red sea, maxspect pls :)
i know this isn't really evident, but is it safe to say 8" is a good average? :')
It certainly seems to be a common sweet spot for many skimmers out there.
So all that for a resounding maybe it does and maybe it doesn't ?
It definitely does. Some skimmers are more affected by operating depth than others, but the water height is absolutely a factor.
Please do it for Nyos 120!
Will a skimmer plumbed with a CO2 Scrubber on a loop affect the air and bubble flow ?
If there is restriction of airflow. If using the same size tubing, not overfilling the canister with water, and not extending the tubing run to far the impact would be minimal.
I have a skimz sn 127 and no matter what height I have it at it is always extremely inconsistent, sometime I will have it on max and it won’t even be close to the top then when I come back water will just be pouring out.
Maybe you need a more constant level of water.
How old is the pump? I had a skimz skimmer that became inconsistent because the pump was going bad. My pump lasted 13 months.
My pump is less then 3 months old and my water level is consistent, I have just tried different ones.
Jeepers , I like the tunze doc 9410 . This seems kinda silly
Who else saw the fish at 8:53
Oh no! How did he manage that one!! Good catch.
Bulk Reef Supply lol i have had damsels get into skimmers
Im guessing it got in through the outlet when it was off
You don’t have to watch this the answer is yes
This series of investigates may end up being even more boring than salt. I’m afraid the skimmer shape episodes are going to put me right back in high school geometry class. Hopefully the end results are clear answers and solutions to choosing a skimmer.
Also, I think the series of investigates should parallel Ryan’s 360 and help him make decisions along the way.
Randy R. I’m looking forward to it! UV investigates will be an awesome topic! I just picked up a Pentair HO50w (same one used on the brs160) for my new house’s new build.
Those R2R quarantine nerds like humblefish could probably chime in with some good info too. I know quarantine isn’t UV and it’s surely been investigated before, but in-vivo does not equal in-vitro...especially in reefing!
the first question should have been-- how effective is a protein skimmer to reduce nitrates
Gotta say a bit disappointed in your choice of skimmers you use for this test. 3 Reef Octopus skimmers, 2 of which are the same skimmer design just different sizes, and then the other 3 are all really low end skimmers. I know you said you picked skimmers in a similar price bracket but maybe you should have picked skimmers over a wide range of brands instead, Vertex, Nyos, Tunze, heck even the IM skimmers you sell.
I'm sorry to sound so negative with this comment, I do love the work you guys do, but I feel like the conclusion falls a bit flat due to your testing criteria (i.e. all cheap skimmers). Maybe a test to see if price does make an impact in performance or operation in some way? Does that Vertex Skimmer do the same as the Reef Octopus 110SSS which supposedly has the same tank size ratings, does that Varios Regal brand Octopus really do much difference than the cheaper older models?
I don't think it came across as well as it should have but we selected top-selling skimmers in that price bracket. By definition, this applies to the most people and seemed like the best way to approach it. Next test will have a wider price bracket and include more brands but same approach to voted by the community as the most popular by their buying behavior.
Hey my RO110sss is NOT cheep!!! Maybe a little bit of a hussy but she works hard for me.😜 I would like the see the super pricy skimmers run through the wringer though. Everytime I think a “better” model will be more effective my 110 pulls the blackest funk ever and I decide to stick with it. Let’s put the skimmers in some nasty water and see what model/brand makes the water crystal clean the quickest.
@@BRStv You Picked my Skimmer - so that made me Happy!
@@BRStv Top selling might mean most, of course if you want to go by that rational most people who start reef tanks don't last very long in the hobby at all so that "most" crowd man not be reefers anymore :)
I mean I get your rational, but like I said Vertex Omega 130 same specs as RO 110SSS but at what $70+ cheaper, why should the average reefer buy the more expensive product? (Explaining why you see all these Jebao pumps on everyone's reef vlogs)
Love your vids !! And indd the dept makes difference!