I was a flight line F-111 crew chief for 8 years (Lakenheath and McClellan) in the 1980s, and did hundreds of launches. My memory is that #2 was started first, then I'd pull the electrical cord and air, which are on the left (#1) side, and then I'd hand the nose gear pin (and speed brake collar if the jet was going cross-country, which required that I go into the main gear bay, entering from the left side) to the pilot. After those items were accomplished, the pilot spun up #1. I believe it was simply a safety/FOD thing to start #2 first. I only ever did 2 cartridge starts (one in Victor Alert during an exercise, and one on a remote recovery where no -60 unit was available), and I frankly don't recall if the sequence was different. It was smokey and cool as hell, though.
You started #2 first because you could bleed air across to start #1.....don't ask why it wouldn't work vice-versa, been too long, but that's what I remember.
@@DRAGONSLAYER1220 Maybe that was it. I recall doing a couple of cartridge starts on #1 though, so maybe that was a different situation? Maybe an engine troop will weigh in.
@@DRAGONSLAYER1220 I hear ya; the ol' memory chips are pretty full after all these years. I remember doing a cart start on VA during a NATO TacEval, one of those fake contingencies the inspectors created. I know I did at least one other one, maybe TDY somewhere, but I can't remember why.
For those that may be interested, in the C model when starting via pneumatic, the right engine is started first. I'd assume the E model would be the same. I'd get a little lost initially in this model as there are different panel and switch locations to the C. I felt the same way when fixing the G models as I didn't get t
2:20 thats pretty cool how the ADI gyro "spins up" and it slowly goes to the correct position . im not sure DCS even models that (well, DCS probably does.... i just havent flown a DCS jet with an ADI that functions like this one) . i wonder if its a "vacuum gyro"...... and not fully electronic like the jets im used to but im not a pilot..... all i care is that after the start-up..... the greens are in the green..... and the reds are in the red .
How on the spot are these instruments with the Actual F111's im trying to generate interest in the F111(a-f) on the DCS boards after reading a bit about this amazing airframe. Did it take Licensing from General Dynamics to make this? What references did you use? and where is the instrument/alarm that indicated the aircraft was about to melt mid-air?
im 99.99% sure their is not a "temp sensor" that tells you when its gonna melt . the pilots simply knew that flying at mach X and Y altitude meant that things would get too hot . and even if you did that..... it would not "melt" like.... the wings would NOT turn red.... and then start dripping melted steel . it would simply cause things to jam up due to the heat causing the metal to expand (which metal does.... even just sitting in the sun) or your fuel might start to boil..... causing "vapor lock" or something like that
I was on the EF-111A back in the 80's at MHAFB....we had one come back with a distinct "bite" out of the rudder, as if by a shark. The Mach Monster bit that one! Supposedly it was going M2+ at the time, and the aircrew had no idea it had happened until they were in the pattern and Tower mentioned it.
This is GKS's F111, it does have a manual with a checklist. I got my copy from here: www.flightsimstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=2196 Full details are on that page. But you should also be aware of 3 other versions. There is a quick comparision chart here: sites.google.com/site/shess0757/f-111-comparison
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I was a flight line F-111 crew chief for 8 years (Lakenheath and McClellan) in the 1980s, and did hundreds of launches. My memory is that #2 was started first, then I'd pull the electrical cord and air, which are on the left (#1) side, and then I'd hand the nose gear pin (and speed brake collar if the jet was going cross-country, which required that I go into the main gear bay, entering from the left side) to the pilot. After those items were accomplished, the pilot spun up #1. I believe it was simply a safety/FOD thing to start #2 first. I only ever did 2 cartridge starts (one in Victor Alert during an exercise, and one on a remote recovery where no -60 unit was available), and I frankly don't recall if the sequence was different. It was smokey and cool as hell, though.
I was a brat at LN during the 80s :)..... This aircraft is in my blood!!!
You started #2 first because you could bleed air across to start #1.....don't ask why it wouldn't work vice-versa, been too long, but that's what I remember.
@@DRAGONSLAYER1220 Maybe that was it. I recall doing a couple of cartridge starts on #1 though, so maybe that was a different situation? Maybe an engine troop will weigh in.
@@MysteryViewer I did so few cart starts on the D so long ago I flat don't remember!
@@DRAGONSLAYER1220 I hear ya; the ol' memory chips are pretty full after all these years. I remember doing a cart start on VA during a NATO TacEval, one of those fake contingencies the inspectors created. I know I did at least one other one, maybe TDY somewhere, but I can't remember why.
For those that may be interested, in the C model when starting via pneumatic, the right engine is started first. I'd assume the E model would be the same. I'd get a little lost initially in this model as there are different panel and switch locations to the C. I felt the same way when fixing the G models as I didn't get t
Instrument panel is from an A model. I recognize the NCU, just in front of and slightly to the right of the central ejection handles.
On the FB's we would start #1 1st then cross bleed start #2 with #1
Wrong: start #2 engine first
#2 started 1st F111F RAF lake heath per tex data.
2:20 thats pretty cool how the ADI gyro "spins up" and it slowly goes to the correct position
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im not sure DCS even models that (well, DCS probably does.... i just havent flown a DCS jet with an ADI that functions like this one)
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i wonder if its a "vacuum gyro"...... and not fully electronic like the jets im used to
but im not a pilot..... all i care is that after the start-up..... the greens are in the green..... and the reds are in the red
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How on the spot are these instruments with the Actual F111's im trying to generate interest in the F111(a-f) on the DCS boards after reading a bit about this amazing airframe. Did it take Licensing from General Dynamics to make this? What references did you use?
and where is the instrument/alarm that indicated the aircraft was about to melt mid-air?
im 99.99% sure their is not a "temp sensor" that tells you when its gonna melt
.
the pilots simply knew that flying at mach X and Y altitude meant that things would get too hot
.
and even if you did that..... it would not "melt"
like.... the wings would NOT turn red.... and then start dripping melted steel
.
it would simply cause things to jam up due to the heat causing the metal to expand (which metal does.... even just sitting in the sun)
or your fuel might start to boil..... causing "vapor lock" or something like that
I was on the EF-111A back in the 80's at MHAFB....we had one come back with a distinct "bite" out of the rudder, as if by a shark. The Mach Monster bit that one! Supposedly it was going M2+ at the time, and the aircrew had no idea it had happened until they were in the pattern and Tower mentioned it.
@@Name-ps9fx - not the first time that has happened
Awesome!!!
does it have a checklist?
This is GKS's F111, it does have a manual with a checklist. I got my copy from here:
www.flightsimstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=2196
Full details are on that page. But you should also be aware of 3 other versions. There is a quick comparision chart here:
sites.google.com/site/shess0757/f-111-comparison
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Where do I get this airplane
It was 13.5 million new (the F 111F model) I can't imagine what it would cost now, or do you want a used one.
Retired in 1996 by USAF and 2010 by the Australians so idk bro
Looks Fake
Forgot to set the ground ignition switch on the ground check panel to Normal.
So Jay, I take it you use to be a maintenance type on the 111's?
Awesome.