The Pilot Chute
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2024
- The Pilot Chute has a few subtle features, that are frequently misunderstood.
In particular the "KillLine" or centreline bridle and Pilot Chute.
I've tried to keep it as short as possible, (you may need a coffee or two)
if you have more questions on the P/C that I did not cover here, please leave a comment below and I shall do my best to answer.
Have a look at the linked videos to see more interesting early life of the P/C.
Mike "Michigan" Sandberg and Patrick Passe present "Gyroscopic"
www.michigansuits.com/freestyle
The Gypsy Moths - behind the scenes: 1969 skydiving
• The Gypsy Moths - behi...
Cutaway! 6 High Speed Malfunctions APF Malfunction training
(keep your eyes open on this one for the P/C in the burble)
video
• Cutaway! 6 High Speed ...
8 minutes in and the kill line test has already taught me something.
The best rigger I’ve had the honor to work with 🙏 , Daniel Guerra
This video is absolutely packed with information! Thank you so much.
I really enjoyed this. Thanks, Colin!
Not only do you have a lot of knowledge to impart, but you do it in a very relaxed and engaging way. This is like ASMR content for skydivers - in fact it'd probably be ASMR content for anyone! :D
Thank you MrReasonabubble, (I think),
I'm just a simple man with hight percentage Neanderthal, from Zimbabwe,
so had to look up what ASMR is, to check how much of an insult I was receiving : )
I tend to use, a nice cup of tea accompanied by J.S.Bach, to take the edge off.
If my i nadvertent ASMR, results is you passing out before the end of the video,
may I suggest you select "2"on the playback speed, that should sort it.
Wish you all the best.
@@thomson1963 oh, I don't think your content is sleep-inducing at all - it's fascinating. It's just that it's also soothing to watch! :D
@@thomson1963He meant that the way you speak is beautiful, not just very informative and I think the same, awesome video.
Long videos are great when they contains so much useful information. Thanks for your time.
Thanks Wawet76, happy it's of some help.
Just found this gold mine video. Not only are your videos full of great information, your replies to these comments are gold too.
And your replies with video links and time points in those videos to find the exact spot in the video, above and beyond! Thank you so much for the fantastic detail.
Well, Cate Page,
I'm happy to know you have stumbled across me wee videos,
you're obviously quite patient, to sit though my long winded attempted explanations,
good to see they aren't a wast of time, for everyone.
Not sure they warrant your very kind words.
Reminds me of, Mary Schmich lovely essay,
"Advice, like the youth, probably just wasted on the young"
in particular, the final paragraph;
"Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.
Advice is a form of nostalgia.
Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal,
wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth."
Thanks again for the opportunity it reminisce.
):)
This looks like some valuable content. I love when people who know the field (any) start explaining why things are set a certain way. This way it makes more sense and you know which parts to pay attention to when inspecting or folding your gear, and to know why. I'm not a skydiver, but I'm looking forward to my first tandem jump next year - and maybe even completing an AFF and maybe going towards A licence.
Btw, are there any good forums for skydivers out there? (particularly Europe?)
Great information! Thank you.
You are a very smart man. I think out of all my years jumping. I've finally found my mentor. Thx. & God Speed
I am planning on beginning an AFF course in the spring, I am beyond excited!! I hope I get to encounter people like you in my journey of learning everything about your sport.
Thank for the great video, Colin! I really appreciate all the detailed information you shared. I will no longer be doing those ridiculous flight checks on my pilot chute, haha! Cheers!
There is so much garbage and bad info on UA-cam it's hard to know what is correct. I'm very glad I found your channel.
Is there any cons to the french bridal routing method if you keep in mind proper kill line length and setting it correctly?
Fantastic. Thank you!
Extremely good and informative video
Superb. Thank you for your experience and knowledge.
Really nice explanation there, love your videos.
I thought about using a vectran line as my killline in the future when I need a new pilot chute, because I'd rather have a not collapsed pilot chute on one jump, than a killine which is shrinking over time.
Is the bridle really going to be burn out that much? Because I think I couldn't spot a vectran line in the pictures you put in at 8:37.
I was wondering about how it worked for the longest time. Thanks so much for explaining this.
You are very welcome cay callan,
Stay inquisitive.
):)
Thank you so much for details about pilot chute!! Great video!!
Fantastic in depth insight on things… amazing! Love the history bits as well, puts things in perspective.
You are the Bob Ross of the skydiving world.
Awesome video. I just got my USPA A license this year. I appreciate the education.
Unreal video 🙌🏼 Thankyou for your knowledge
Thanks THETHRIIVCO, for taking the time to have a look and make a comment,
I'm happy you found it useful.
Thank you for the huge amount of information. That was great.
I'm Happy you found it useful ToeTicket.
Happy Landings.
My first 4way team was called the Gipsy Moths (in the Liga, with Sonia Cueto, Fernando and Vicente Conesa). They made me watch the movie before I could join the team! Great Video! Keep sharing your knowledge and experience! Thanks Colin.
Happy you liked it Daniel,
I had the Privilege to meet some of the jumpers/stuntmen from the Gipsy Moths at the last PIA Symposium, Feb 2019.
Spectacular times, their recording gear was the size of your average carry-on baggage.
Did you notes the use of two spring loaded pilot chutes on one bridle?
Why was that the fashion and why is it no longer so popular?
Sonia is the first person I know, who had a Pin stab her bridle and Lock her Vector main container closed
31 Oct 2004, she handed it perfectly with a happy landing on her reserve.
All the best,
Colin.
Wow thank you so much!!! That video had help me so much 😱😱😱❤❤❤❤❤
That is so awesome. I am so happy now
I'm happy, you're happy Melody,
thank you for watching and making a comment.
Glade you found this little video interesting,
hope you find some of the others interesting as well.
Wish you all the best.
Thank very much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
You understand all the dynamics and causation, good man, good lecture!i!
Thank you for making the time to watch and comment.
Happy Landings,
Loving this videos and all the time you take to do them. Thanks for that!
I very happy you like it Micabezaenelpiso,
Thank you for making the time to have a look.
All the best,
Colin.
Dear Colin! Thank you very much for your amazing videos! So much to learn. I used to do those "ridiculous flight tests" - now I know better. I remember how I walked into your workshop many years ago and you taught me how to make loops. Great memory!
Hello Marcel Geser, than you for taking the time to comment, I'm glade you have found this one useful.
Hopefully there will be some more uploaded, in the near future.
Wish you all the best.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Very informative. Thank ya.
You are very welcome Jerry.
I´m a fairly new skydiver, 50 jumps so far, and i never even knew about the "french way" to put the pin.
But I ordered my first container last year round, and hope to recive it in a few weeks. It´s a Vector3 and out off curiosity i checked the manual from UPTs webside about how they close the main flaps and put the pin.
The the manual shows the "french way" to store the "updated version of the bridle"; but also show other variations for "older bridle designs" in the Appendix F Chapter.
I´ll guess i´ll go to use the ashown and explained "french way" for the updated bridle design, because that´s the gear I´ll get and thats the way their manual instructs to handle it.
Also I´ll talk with my rigger about the topic when i´ll finally get my rig.
Hey, did you get your gear yet? Did your rigger have any good advice or info on this topic? I still don't quite understand why Colin is against the "French method" - I mean, I'm not sure he explained the benefit of the classic way over the french in case the pilot chute isn't prepared correctly in classic and french way
@@AuroraClair not yet -_-, But my Container is right now on its way from UPT to my Rigger, ETA withhin 14 days. still need to find a main for it. (Rigger got a PD Reserve and Cypress ready for me).
@@Carmoflage Wow, I didn't know it takes so long.. Please let us know if your rigger shares any light/his own thoughts on the french and classic way - I'd love to get more perspectives on it
Getting back into jumping after a 15 year layoff and just had my new (to me) rig delivered yesterday. Excellent info, thank you!
Hello slowfaller, I'm glad you found it useful and it's good you came back to the skies,
"You are never too old to have a happy childhood"
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
There are a few other videos you may find useful, if they don't increase your knowledge and further curiosity,
they also work as a Non-pharmacological intervention for insomnia.
I plan to view more for all things considered
I appreciate your knowledge and teaching method. THANK YOU!!!
Thank you SEKAF, I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment, you are very kind.
Man...after 11 years off...looking at equipment advancement... learned a lot ..was a big hackey sac BOC..I will order my Javelin with a lockable flap.
"The best safety device in any aircraft, is a well trained crew"(FlightSafetyInternational)
You are the most important component of your equipment.
Gear has advanced, most of the time in a good direction,
we need to understand its anatomy and how to operate it well.
Thank you for watching and making a comment, Steve Austin.
Happy landings.
Very usefull information, many thanks you explain it great !!!
I'm happy you found it useful,
thanks for taking the time to watch, Victor.
Interesting video. Thanks mate.
Thanks a lot Colin, for this (and the others) videos. Thanks for your work, time and this videos for for us, to continue learning and gaining knowledge. Really, thank you very much!
You are very kind, thank you Dany.
I'm simply loving these videos!
In some way now I'll have something to "help me out" at the DZ when people start arguing with me, for example, locking tabs on pilot chutes or about kill-lines (and how to set them), bridle routings, and the reasons for the use of the "french way" instead of the "classical way", without being able to support their idea, and then I try to explain things to them and they simply ignore because I'm not a big name in the sport, or whatever. (sorry for the slight sarcasm)
It is really, but really good when someone that has been in the sport/industry for some years and has experienced/seen,/read/did good(correct) and also bad(incorrect or less correct) things and decided to learn from it increasing their know-how, then come and share their expertise and knowledge with us younger (in the sport/industry) folks.
So please keep making these videos.
Thank you Tomás Matos, I'm happy you are getting some value from the videos,
they are not just for new jumpers, the jumpers with loads of full log books, do not automatically have knowledge absorb information thanks to osmosis or photosynthesis.
You need to make an effort and search good information out.
Sadly not one manufacturers manual has the correct technique to set a KillLine, for example.
More videos are in the pipeline, thanks for the encouragement,
just as soon as I get some of my backlog of maintenance work completed, (so I can pay the bills)
Wish you all the best.
38:15 There is another disadvantage of this system:
After you set the pilot chute, the bridle section inside the D-Bag gets compressed and thus almost works like a spring, so even after setting the pilot chute your recommended way, i find that after bagging the canopy, i have to redo the setting process, because it already extended quite a bit.
Anyway, thanks for making these videos. Taught me a lot!
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment maxiking8496,
Yes each system has good parts and not so good parts in their design,
but if you know how to operate the system you have, which weak points it has, you'll be at a great advantage.
I (almost)never run the original designs from the manufactures, they all get the "CAM",
which means the centre line has approximately 20cm extra, to allow for shrinkage(with use in the future) and the creep back inside the bag (that you and everyone else experience).
Please consider watching the next part of, The Pilot Chute (a wee bit extra) ua-cam.com/video/EHox4tW6GPk/v-deo.html
something
Hey,
Im wondering what is your opinion when packing the PC, which side would you want the bridle to leave the Packed PC, Opening of the BOC or bottom of the BOC?
Thanks for your question Dave,
when pack a P/C the bridle exits the bottom of the P/C,
it might be easier to see from the following videos.
Have a look at this video from Susy Lee
Start at 19:00
ua-cam.com/video/bjz4JuwvxrQ/v-deo.html
You may find this video helpful as well,
ua-cam.com/video/EHox4tW6GPk/v-deo.html
Great advice, blue skies.
Loving the videos!! Thank you so much
Any advice on washing the pilot chute? Had an off landing on a night jump... Landed in some merky wetlands and the pilot chute got slightly wet / pretty dirty on the mesh, though the material seems perfectly intact. Thanks for reading this!
In situations when it’s mad, I tend to let the material dry first and the mud turns in to dust comes off a little easier sometimes.
Afterwords, soaking it in the bathtub with the little baby shampoo (mild soap) may help to lift some of the dirt from the weave of the fabric.
Gently, does it.
Avoid agitating the material excessively, no scrubbing it together, it will increase the permeability of the fabric eventually.
After a rinsing, roll it up in a towel to accelerate drying, then air dry, if I’m in a hurry, I’ll set up a fan to blowing on it.
Then,
Extract the center line from the bridle as much as possible, and wipe it with some silicone lubricant, and repeat on the other end.
The grommets on the bag may appreciate a wipe of lubricant as well, if they’re made of brass.
Great explanation....thx
Great video! Please keep them coming!!! :-)
Another great video from Colin!
@Colin Scott Thomson Hey Colin, was wondering what the dimensions/ material you use for making a locking tongue that you add to a non locking tongue p/c . Depends on handle/container probabley? Id appretiate any advice you have! (rigger in training)
Hello Kyle Callender, I like to use Tecamaid MDS .040(resin grade PA 66)(Molybdenum Disulfide Filled Nylon) for the stiffener, 50x25mm,
1.5"Ty3 Binding Tape (170mm long) and
a wee bit (60x25mm) Ripstop nylon adhesive tape.
a little 1/4" basting tape is also handy.
Deburr the stiffener, apply the ripstop tape or tapes for some colour.
ua-cam.com/video/FzRldficoc4/v-deo.html
Line up the edge on the one end of the 1.5"Ty3 tape (this is where the basting tape will help keep things straight)
wrap the Ty3 tape around the stiffener (hold the end back on itself)
Run a straight line of stitches around(x2) the edge (close to the edge)
Now attach it close to the P/C handle, use the existing reinforced part of the P/C (not just directly to the P/C fabric alone, this will provoke damage)
On some P/C designs its easer to unpick a section of the seam(Fabric too mesh), so you can gain access to make the stitch.
Some times it's a good idea to add ripstop tape to the P/C to reinforce the handle area,
(normally two 20cm section of ripstop tape, stitched around, then refit handle and LockTag)
I hope that is reasonably clear.
Thank you for the details about the pin / bridle interference. I'm packing the "French" way because of that, but I had never really understood the process which leads to this kind of malfunction, except that by moving the bridle far away from the pin tip, there is obviously less risk.
I do however don't understand your point of view about keeping the "traditional" closing method. Sure, it is better to understand why we use one method or the other and you perfectly explained that if your pilot chute is correctly setup, it will dramatically reduce the probability of an interference between the pin tip and the bridle. But is there any drawback with the "French" methoh, other than a difficult access to the kill line indicator? And if there is not, why not unconditionally use this method which, as you described, may reduces the wear on the bridle and the chance of an important malfunction?
I heard that the "traditional" way put less wear on the bridle and the flaps, because there is less friction between those two things. But it's something that I heard on a dropzone... I'd like to know Colin's opinion on the matter.
@@Wawet76 Merci ;) Waiting for his opinion as well.
Thanks for the Question Guillaume,
I now realise, the video is not clear, sorry about that.
There is now a small additional video, that I hope clears things up a wee bit.
The French method has NO affect on the wear of the bridle,
If you set your P/C correctly for use (with two steps) and deploy it properly you are Good.
If you semi-set your P/C(only one step), you may be in for a big surprise, however you route your bridle.
I was about to write that having a too long kill line may lead to the bridle being twisted insanely much during the canopy ride, as I've had this happen to me (and it was completely resolved by shortening the kill line) and I've seen it on other peoples equipment as well.
However, now that I think about why this would happen I can't possibly see why a long kill line would cause this, making me a bit annoyed at myself. I struggle to understand why shortening it solved this issue for me.
Great video all in all, thank you so much for the thorough explanations.
Hello Akegata42,
Thanks for taking the time to comment, Hopefully the second part, The Pilot Chute(a wee bit extra) helps to clear any misunderstanding over the centre line length related to the Stop Tape or Stop Channel length.
I prefer to lengthen the tape or channel on the inside of the bag section, so after the bag releases the canopy, everything will slide up the centre line, the apex of the P/C will hit the bridle "V" and no lip of P/C fabric is left to grab air asymmetrically and start spinning.
ua-cam.com/video/EHox4tW6GPk/v-deo.html
In the eighties I made 1200 jumps with the pull out system... I never really liked handdeploy. Nobody using it anymore? I prefered opening my container myself with a straight pin instead of the bend one.
This really helps me understand all the working parts of my pilot chute, d bag, and handle system. I want to understand every single part of my rig, and you sir are easy to understand, concise, and the editing was perfect. I am an older and heavier jumper not looking to downsize anymore, happy at 210 sq. ft. 1.3 to 1 wing loading. Getting a new container ordered, and want your opinion on using a "non" kill line system, and it appears you have answered my question already toward the end. I really like the non kill line system, does it create any additional wear and tear on the top skin of the canopy while in flight?
Hello Geno, thanks for your comments, I'm glad you found some useful points.
The classic bridle will give you good service, way less cost to operate, your canopy should not experience any additional wear and teat.
On all the classic bridles I work on, I always adapt the bag with a fixed attachment point, (as seen at, 18:44 + in the video),
Some bridles have a wee bit of Hook Velcro on them (You can just unstitch it) that may eventually damage a small section of the center cell rid stitch line, after 1500 Jumps or so.
I think it has a lot to do with spearfishing and being inverted underwater. I tried to do a sit a couple weeks after that and it was a disaster. Back to the wind tunnel!
Great video
I don't really understand arguments that say "if you did steps before correctly then this step is good enough" in case of bridle routing.
All accidents happen because there are multiple parts that go wrong in a sequence.
All accident prevention is "how do I make current step safer without relying on previous parts".
From that, I agree that proper setting of bridles needs to improve, but people will still make mistakes there. having a bridle routing the new way, will reduce the change of anything happening that one time you mess up PC setup. Also while you say why the reasons for running the bridle the french way is not needed, I am really curious as to are there any downsides to it?
With all that I am really grateful for these videos, they are an awesome source of information and my question above is just trying to understand better.
Thank you so much
Mohammed Adil, thank you for watching,
it's my pleasure, I'm glad you liked it.
Great video, keep em coming! :) A question though, assuming that we have the pilot chute set as it is supposed to be, do you see any other downsides of packing vectors (routing the bridle) the french way compared to the standard way?
Thanks for the question Gregor.
No Down side at all,
It's only that I have an allergy, to the change in routing because it is't hitting the nail on the head,
as to the root of the problem, of "Pin Stabbing Bridle" goes.
please see if I explain it better in the supplementary video (a wee bit extra).
Did you cover F111 vs ZP pilot chute material? Trying to figure out which one is better for large canopy and avoiding hard openings
Hello V__,
Not really in enough detail, sorry about that.
F111(permeable) is my preferred fabric for pilot chute, 27" diameter seem to work well for deployment of main canopies up to
200"ish size, them move up to 30" or 33".
In the 90's Little Vectors(EST2) came with 33" that tended to pull too strong, Gus Wing gave me the tip, to pop the 33'F111 P/C in the washing machine, it would increase the permeability of the fabric, thus taming the aggressive snatch force of a new P/C.
No need for that now with the large variety of diameters available.
ZP pull harder, the first ones PdeFr made were in the 33"zone with a Horrific Snatch force
(=risers, lines, canopies and jumper Damage), thankfully they learnt it was better to shrink the diameter and moved to 25"ZP.
But, the air can't get though and needs to spill out the sides, resulting in erratic shimmy pull, (potentially).
F111 on the other hand, some of the air passes though the fabric giving a steady smooth pull.
If a F111 33" is struggling to extract a 300 size canopy, I'd probably test it with a ZP 30"and see how it helped.
(or 36"F111, if the BOC could handle the volume)
@@thomson1963 thank you again for the thoughtful and detailed response. I'm glad I switched the PC to F111.
@@sivonparansun hello again,
ua-cam.com/video/3uRFwiUx0_M/v-deo.html
I just stumbled across this marvellous demonstration of a pilot chute not quite compelling with its job discrimination. We can't see the whole picture but, OK it's not launched so well (give him a break its like jump #1or#2 probably)
with two extra burble generators adding to the fun.
They are using a "KillLine" on a Student Rig, who knows what size canopy it is, I'm pretty sure it will feel zero benefit from a collapsed P/C in canopy flight (a ridicules fashion accessory in this student category)
May be just my imagination and confirmation bias;
If you look closely,(1:11) the centre line (at least the outline of it) can be seen inside the bridle, apparently under tension.
It's my speculation this P/C (like so many others out there) Has Not Been Set Correctly, (probably impossible to set correctly, without some maintenance/adjustments, like extending the CentreLine and StopChannel)
Even with an appropriate P/C diameter for canopy size, the poor P/C can't do its Job to the best of its potential if the centreline is messing with its shape too early.
Wishing you many happy landing,
with your new Vector.
@@thomson1963 loved the detailed response thank you. I have another question: UPT offers 27" PC as standard but they do a 30"PC as a 'wingsuiting mod'.... if my deployments are going to be mostly terminal for a while, am I asking for trouble with the larger F111 pilot chute? Sunpath suggests excess of 30 inch f111 PC for the 200ish sqft canopy I plan on flying so im confused
@@sivonparansun So long as you pack properly and deploy properly,
every thing is going to be alright.
ua-cam.com/video/bjz4JuwvxrQ/v-deo.html
The "F111" 30" will be fine,
so long as it's in combination with "Keener Rubber Bands" and you decelerate a wee bit, before deployment.
Note where the rubber bands are attached to the bag (On the sides, Not on the mouth flap)
ua-cam.com/video/bjz4JuwvxrQ/v-deo.html?t=750 ,
it's 120mm of 3/4" Ty3 Tape added to the sides of the bag, similar to how they did it in the past.
What about the Pull Out system?
Hello Alberto Calmini,
Yes good question, what about the PullOut, sorry I did not give it the time it deserves.
When I started, I went from S/L to Ripcord to BellyStrap to Rear of Leg HandDeploy(ThoughOut),on my Mighty WonderHog.
handle attached to the base of the P/C, I was properly educated on how to operate it and used it for many years.
(No KillLine back then, we allowed the MainBag to slide/burn it's way up the bridle to cover the P/C, that increased the performance of my Cruislite)
Until I became a fashion victim and moved on to a BOC.
popular now as then(80's&90's), frequently misunderstood and misused,
classically dialogued/floating handle, tricky to find, or P/C too deep over to the Lh side resulting in hard pulls and ripped P/C fabric.
Absolutely not a fault of the system, more the user error, insufficient education.
With some of the appalling BOCs coming from some manufacture, the PullOut is not a bad option.
As far as premature deployments go, please don't drop your guard, watch your back, front and sides.
ua-cam.com/video/7QxndYwMWkk/v-deo.html
How to set the pilot chute @32:33
what is the 'limiter' tape
Joey Gee, sorry I was not clear with that,
the limiter tape, central tape ( or Crown Lines when on a high performance round parachute like the ParaCommander)
has one job, it's to displace(pull down) the Apex(the center/high point) of the chute to a "sweet Point" just above the peripheral hem,
resulting in the best projected surface area, for a given pilot chute (or ParaCommander parachute)
Creation the classic Valentine Heart in cross section, = best pull force for a given size PilotChute.
what about base jumping pilot chutes
Hello Robin, Thanks for watching and your question,
I'm not as experienced with sport or base pilot chutes, just attempting to increase the general knowledge of the different components used in skydiving equipment.
In the future I may cover some of the marvelous designs out there, used in the base world.
too much information.. i cant get it 😭.i hv to repeat it again and again because english its not my first language.. anyway think u sir for this great video and sharing ur big experience and for th simpl way you teach us with.think u again from Algeria
skydive 333 nacer, Thank you for taking time to watch and comment,
I'm sorry it's too much some times,(I get carried away)
I hope one day you can make a visit to my workshop, where I will have the opportunity to answer any questions you have, face to face,
until then good luck, stay happy, healthy and soft landings.
i dont get it ? can someone explain what is the downside of the french meathode?
It’s not exactly a downside,
It’s that the reason for its introduction is not getting to the root of the problem.
You won’t find (In a manual) a clear explanation of how to prepare a collapsible PilotChute for use correctly, with the centerline completely out of the equation, for the “traction” part of the PilotChute life.
Good so routing the bridal the French way will still allow people to jump with incorrectly set PilotChutes.(I prefer all my components to be performing at the best)
OK the Pin Stabbing the bridal and locking the container closed, is solved
But if everyone received a good education on how to set a PilotChute from day one (& all manufacturers produced PilotChutes that could actually be set correctly) we could all happily jump the classic routing.
Route your bridal however you’d like, but please set your PilotChute correctly. (see: around minute 30 on the video)
@@thomson1963 thanks a lot for the quick respons. I myself pack my it the classic way. but ive been told not to, enen tho this way it provided in the rig owner manual (javelin odyssey). looking at it from a from physics stand point, i was like... "but i set everything correcly what could go wrong?" i kept coming to the conclusion that the pin will release first... glad i stuck to it since i was a student :P
@@TheMathiasM44 When I first saw photos(+20 years ago) of a container locked closed with a Pin stating the bridle, sabotage was my initial thought.
After really doing a lot of head scratching,
I came to the conclusion that, if the P/Cis not set correctly, the CenterLine violently comprising (like a concertina)the section of bridle on the other side of the Pin, as the Pin rotors 90º just before extraction, the show begins.
I've seen five incidents, there have been many more
(misdiagnosed as PilotChute in-tow or LazyPull) and I've discovered bridles with evidence of pin strikes (50% hole)
and tandem drogues
and reserve pilot chutes
Hello again Rodin, yes the reserve pilot chutes (with and without Springs) deserve an episode all to themselves,
there's some important information more people should know about, thanks for asking.
It's on my to do list, sorry for the delay.
Awesome content! I wish there were more people with that mindset towards gear component purpose and it's maintenance!
I would like to get your opinion on this:
I have a Vector rig and want to replace my pilot chute handle with one that has tuck tab, but there is a bit of gap between right closing flap and boc pouch. It looks like this - drive.google.com/file/d/17pYtmkdu464DJJIwpYtUjP8VIqND7bqr/view?usp=sharing
My rigger and I are considering moving boc closer to the flap. Would you consider that a good option?
Thank you in advance!
Hello Matija
Thank you for watching the video, I’m happy you upgrade to a LockTag handle.
From the photo it appears your Vector was made some time ago, what is its DOM?
If it’s more than ten years old the BOC will probably be one of the good ones, so just move it.
If it’s a newer one with the BOC cut the wrong way, I’d pop it off put it in the bin then fit a new BOC constructed correctly, closer to the Rh Flap.
Since last year UPT have fitted the Rh Flap in the appropriate place (after a wee bit of encouragement)
sadly there are a large number of Vectors out there with the Rh Flap too far away from the BOC.
If you are having one of these, move the flap attachment,
pop out the 40mm or so of stitches, pull the flap closer to the BOC and restitch, I do this by hand with the use of a Stitching Awl and some Patients.
drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/18sM4IuuX_WnLO2lYjqM6hzXJQaOC7i-L
I hope this is reasonably clear and you don’t need to use the Rosetta Stone.
All the best,
Colin.
Sorry the top link for the photos is bad, my finger problem.
try the link below.
drive.google.com/drive/folders/18sM4IuuX_WnLO2lYjqM6hzXJQaOC7i-L?usp=sharing
Yes, the Vector is from ‘97.
The pouch fabric is in good condition. Maybe it could be tightened a bit just on the edge where the PC is inserted.
I think my rigger prefers repositioning pouch instead of unsewing right flap.
It feels very insuring that you think that is proper way of how the gap could be fixed.
Thank you very much for replying!
@@matija713
Absolutely,
just pop the BOC off and back on again, (your lovely 97 model has a superior fabric for the BOC & cut the correct orientation + dose not suffer from the poorly attached Rh Flap, I only started seeing that in the last 8 or 9 years)
Before removing BOC, make a mark with chalk along the edge of the Rh Flap.
That will be your reference mark for the mouth of the BOC new position,
the side closest to the pin could remain on the same stitch line(just moved along a bit),
the other side just move the tape progressively closer to the back pad binding tape, to help cinch up the tension of the BOC across the mouth,(normal it only needs 5 or 6mm) compensating for the fabric fatigue.
All the best,
Colin
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