mine is a lot of idols act out as their fans personal bf or gf but i feel like so many of them would be awful partners. not just in terms of the idols schedule and having to deal with knetz but in general there is more to them than their idol image. i think we would be stupid to say there isnt a few egodriven arseholes among idol groups who just purposefully would bulldoze someones idea of a genuine relationship because they have awful behaviours that people dont see because they are so easily deluded by their idols beloved image. the saying of never meet ur idols because they will dissapoint you in some way is oh so true im not saying dont meet them or try to hookup with them but dont act like you know them on a personal level because we really dont.
and it brings me to my next point of how idols always seem to seek approval from people / their fans and i tnink its vwry telling when someone is a exagerating their interest in someone else or even overusing a certain behaviour because rheir fans absolutely adore and worship everything about the idols that they clearly are doing nothing wrong ever. its so concieted to think these ppl wouldnt break someones heart.
theyre overprotective bc they think they own an idol. the only thing we can do is wish the idol well if they are not feeling their best. i dont get why anything else needs to be done or expected of us if we dont know them personally we cant do much from behind a screen so its up to idols to check in on their own wellbeing and health thats the least i expect them to be doing otherwise i cannot keep pitying and sympathising with every other idol all the time. their choices, their mistakes and their behaviours are all up to them. anything else and fans shouldnt keep rushing to an idol its very draining actually. especially if the idol is having a brekdown online like get offline bruh get help. its not our business to suddenly care for someone we dont even follow or know all the time.
Unpopular opinion and then straight up hating on BP for everything possible. Ofc Blinks will become toxic to defend them when literally they are the most hated group in the Kpop history(same for BTS by the way)
of course, but you should remember that defending them is a different thing. I mean, I basically believe you should defend your favs from blood suckers 😭 but then those category of blinks that hate on others and even the girls…they need help
@@rosalinescrib8011 I agree ofc but literally every fandom has its toxicity. That's what it means to be a stan and the bigger fandom, the more noticeable it is. And to be fair, in BP's case I mostly see solo stans hating on the other 3 girls. It is not like let's say bunnies or armies who mostly hate on other groups. And if we talk about ot4 blinks, they mostly hate on bts as well as the opposite. To be honest, I have never left a hateful comment in my life and cannot understand the satisfaction but can understand where everything comes from
Mys, bunnies and babymonster stans are the biggest bullies and haters of other girl groups, while other girl group stans mind their business while these 3 fandoms focus on anything but their favs
My controversial opinion is that I actually want the new groups to fail, not because I don’t like the boys/girls, only because that is the only way to make the companies a reality check
I WANTED TO SAY THIS SO BADDD LIKE ,IF YOU ARE STANNING A GROUP THAT U LYK THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GUILTY ABOUT. ITS OK IF YOU LISTEN TO OTHER IDOLS AND STAN THEM. SOME TOXIC STANS ACT LYK U COMMIT A SIN BY DOING THI. NOO, U DONT. THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED ME ONLINE ON TWITTER JUST BECAUSE I SAID THAT. ITS ANNOYING LYK KPOP IS NOT MY LIFE, IT IS SUPPOSE TO COMFORT ME NOT STRESS ME OUT. another thing, some fans do go OVERBOARD when it comes to voting or streaming. its my choice, not a fundamental right. I listen to alot of kpop bg songs just because i prefer them and find it more soothing that doesnt mean i degrade other gg or disrespect them. and honestly i find 3rd gen or 2nd gen songs to be more of my liking. i am just not into 5th gen or 4th gen. some of them have a really good but on the other hand a lot of them have a cute concept which i personally find cringe. i can never accept fully grown adults to act cute or enjoy music that sounds like nursery rhymes with catchy melody. sorry i yapped too much😅
exactly i dont get this need of sticking to one group hating another group just like what u like it dont fucking matter its just music at the end of the day. omg even when an idol mentions their fans should stick to them it doesnt promote healthy behaviours and makes the idol seem really possessive like sorry u feel butthurt that u think ur fan would go go another groups concert however its their free will to do so as well? i like checking other groups out its fun. if i dont like it so be it not the end of the mf world.
@@randomuser-nt9if so right just lyk how fans Don't have the rights to control a artist lyf similarly artists also don't have the right to get possessive. I have seen many delulu fans acting head over heald just because their faves scolded them, it's not CUTE
@@pratikhyapattanaik ikr i agree so much with this, i think its fun when u like the groups as u want more casually cause its more freeing u really dont have to care about being so delulu and "loyal" to only one group, i think this about shipping too. the way these idols have certain clutches over their fans and vice versa is just getting way out of hand and i think social media is not helping them at all (the fans that is). ppl who are young fans of idol groups seem to be really gullible and believe every word their idol says and then they act like it is their belief also but its two different things.
its baffling how few are genuinely able to hold varied notes and it leads me to think the people that debut groups are not in their right minds, half the idols that are overworshipped i would not even personally debut them. many go into idol lifestyle for benefits, their parents told them too or they had connections or they just want the attention from other girls or boys depending on what they want out of it but at the end of the day they gotta be good at what they do. they cant all just be pretty faces or wealthy. weve lowered the standards so much that other groups look really bad but its on them. if they cant improve they shouldnt be idols. tough luck but it is what it is and its not for everyone and thats ok too. like i say a lot of them probably go in with big egos and think theyre good until they find ohh their solos not actually good enough and rely on lipsynch and looking pretty to get by. i also think its a bit brash for them to totally change their image if they cannot perform well ie: they go to LA and start acting like every other wannabe influencer they dont bring nothing new to it, some are genuinely talented but many seem to think too highly of themselves and i dont think they have good self esteem either so they might overuse their abs on stage to get the young girls reactions rather than work on what they lack in. its really telling sometimes that these are manipulation techniques, felt that way since the one direction days. thats why i dont really care to deeply obsess over an idol for things that other younger fans obsess about its pointless kf they cant sing they cant perform or debut and probably shouldnt be in their grohp simple as that. think of all the ppl pr trainees that thought theyd be in lesserra for example, then they just put sakura in who clearly got in thru other means but yeah what a waste of ppls time and money
Sakura brought in fans, you act like you all genuinely stan talent. Kpop fans are really self righteous. Why do you think there is a high saturation of pretty faces. It's because you blooody pay for it, y'all by albums for photocards. Y'all follow people as a ride or die. In putting 2 good singers, a pretty face and 2 dancers (someone with an affinity for rap). Thats why there are positions we complained about those so they were removed but shouldn't you use your common sense to not expect whistle tones for a dance focused group. I am tired of people saying Itzy is the standard they are exceptional, NMIXX as well. Give JYP idols their bloody flowers he is producing once ina lifetime talent because belting while doing a crtwheel should not be the bloody expectation for a human being. AESPA being good at singing is the standard for a group of their Vocal focus but I still don't expect Arianna Grande and Shakira to sing the sam even tho they are both singers. ILLIT sure as hell can't belt like BM singers can and that is okay because two different artist shouldn't sound the same and sing the same songs if people prefer one they listen to it. It is not about skill/ talent equals popularity but highrer percentage of preference equals popularity. That is music you guys should stop yapping like you buy every single good artwork for the sake of it being good. As this is kpop lets get the elephant out of the room personality, face card and promotion will always heavily affect popularity and that is not a bad thing. If Big 3/4 trainees get instant fast pass to fame good on them it wasn't easy to get in and many people never got to debut since they fought for that position. It is much easier to debut in a small company. If you were given more priviledge because you were rich and famous before debut it is not even still abad thing because money can but popularity but it will not get you any of this if you don't have a foundation for example Wonhee is barely higher than average in all stats but very high in charisma and visuals you pair her with somoene with less visuals and charisma but exceptional and unique singing (Minju), Someone with decent vocals and strong dance (Iroha), Good vocals and a relatable personality (Yunah) and A unique voice with charisma, charm and visuals (Moka). If you chaeck the values the visual is very high collectively because despite what kpop fans say your spending habits and the numbers say you hate ugly people. You like youth as younger members are often more biased. You like great singers but you focus on one majorly like how in Enhypen most of the guys have good vocals but Heesung is the most glazed while Jay, Sunoo, Jungwon and the rest are giving their flowers in miniscule amounts. Y'all need 2 strong dancers for studio chooms and fan wars for an Ult group and writing credits had a lot of impact on popularity at least until recently we are swapping to vocals, the companies will answer but immediately everyone can belt we will turn to critisize the quality of rappers and once everyone can rap we'll stab at the dancing. then once we get back to this part we will critisize live vocals again. We as humans are ingrates and lackj any ability to think in the big picture and i'm reminded of that every bloody day.
my issue with blackpink is i feel like because they had connections or came from wealth they got in the group easily without needing to do much in the audition itself, only rose was the most interesting audition, i still dont know how jisoo debuted tbh although she has a likeable presence i dont think she adds anything new to the group and if they dont bring anything new to the group they dont really deserve their solos unless they show a keen interest in solos otherwise i think its ok for not all members to be soloists if they cannot keep up vocally or are using lipsynch (yes lisa looking at u bud) sometimes an idol is best off as a soloist cause it seems when the members are in their groups theyre very uncoordinated and half of them look like they didnt want to be there on stage but give them a solo project and suddenly they care to perform well. very odd. ive seen younger groups give better effort than all of blackpink put together there was definitely some favoured more than others as well. i believe they were supposed to have several other members so i wondered how different it wouldve been had they had a leader who was more driven to succeed than to just half ass because they can or its hobby for the rich kids
Idk why but they are not embrace of their dancing they just embrace themselves infront of kpop idols who went to their korean concert I think they do not care about their fans
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq i agree, they just seem to bask in the attention compared to even bts for example who genuinely seem to care about performing well. many times they prove they sing live but blackpink members use lipsynch to cover their weakness often forgetting lyrics and generally dancing like a 5 year old would at a birthday party type vibes. its such a shame because i really did like them at first until i realised they just didnt care and dont care about doing well as performers
@@randomuser-nt9if I am an athlete and if my coach decided to stop me from attending competitions, then I would have lost my interest in even training cause what's the point if I am not allowed to show what I am capable of
my thing with plagiurism isnt that just saying that groups arent their own image? oh yeah song is similar or a concept is similar but it doesnt detract from how good their song is or not? a group can have a different flavour from another and vice versa i dont get this need to pit one group against nother because they "copied" them no ones truly original anyway. big deal. same with the avril lavigne shit its like we cant like a newer version cause u might not like the original of a song and thats ok too. ppl do covers all the time and use aspects of others songs. i dont get why it needs that we have to railroad another groups potential because people feel salty that one song is doing better than another? whys it so hard for ppl to be so detremental to newish groups without giving them enough chance to show what theyre about?
the thing with sexuality is idols are clearly playing into shipping too much thats why its believeable that theyre dating and whatnot even if there are gay ones its ok too but we still dont know what they want or even prefer to be so why do we need to keep bringing it up? the only thing we can do is let them live regardless if they gay or straight. "oh but so and so really realllllllly must be dating another member" did anyone actually ask the idols themselves? no.. ppl just assume shit without knowing shit themselves.
@@randomuser-nt9if And they argument is “if I was him/her, I would also be dating” and also, why they assume everybody wants a partner? There are some people that genuinely not
@@1Uni7 exactly. no one genuinely asks the idols personally what they are interested in or if they are even interested in dating at all which contrary to their acting it out on stage is purely usually fanservice but it seems that word gets forgotten about as does the idols preferences for what they even want in the first place. sexuality is the last thing on my list of things id care about in regards of an idol next to shipping as well, i tnink to always tie two members together in a ship is asking for a disaster to happen or one member eventually getting fed up with it which i think happens more than we realise. theres also members who are clearly uncomfortable with acting out skinship and i think other members shouldnt force them on it cause its like some idols really lack boundaries themselves and have not much respect for what their members want either. its ok jus to have a normal friendship connection without it needed to be analysed if they are dating or gay or bi they shouldnt be forced out which is what a lot of fans try to do on their faves.
last comment for the day groups like nct and tripleS are a disaster waiting to happen. too many members for anyone to gneuinely manage and not long enough for their training period, no ones going to care for the members after 5 of them wind up with scandals and or crimes or anything like that. its bad marketing tactic, i dont get where they felt the need to put so many members in overusing some members not having enough vocal variety either with debuting them too soon etc. groups nowadays seem very rushed even blackpinks training period did nothing for their vocals lmao dont debut with yg as babymon will wind up the same buncha pretty faces and jennie lookalikes or lisa wannabes
im confused why twice is never mentioned i remember their earlier mvs getting so popular but ppl act like bts run the show its so lame and one sided as if all the groups are beneath that one group
They are popular they do not get mentioned bcuz they are not controversial but its not like that they are flopping they are getting popular day by day their concert seats are full especially in nissan and metlife
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq exactly but ppl often say in other opinion videos twice are flopping or itzy are flopping. nahh its just that they have rheir own success they cant be duplicate of bts or blackpink and its fine what they do
@@randomuser-nt9if i think we should not say that no on can be next bp or bts cuz if you had said someone in 2015 that will gonna be biggest group in world nobody would believe you and twice is a still big 3 group
Its mostly the next bts And i will say this bts became popular for being themselves and trying to copy them is the opposite I've seen soo many groups go from unique to robotic and i loose intrest
@@hanaa-nm7bk for real its not hard to find a group to be generally stiff after sometime u have to do something different otherwise it looks repetitive and uncreative. but i was speaking in terms of agencies and how theyre always looking for like little jennies and lisas or some other known idol no one can have their own unique look which makes them uninteresting as well. its like they cant find a balance between talent and looks, to me a lot of idols look eerily similar u think there would be many twins or triplets even. and i know they get surgery based on whats popular or what the agency thinks they need to fix but it doesnt make them better at times. if anything it just makes them weird. some idols look like they would look usually but then they want another duplicate of that idol so thats where i find it boring after some time and if anyones going to be called a little jennie for all her life id get bored sick of it and quit performing. even in the auditions they dont really change much in terms of what the og group did and itd be cool if they had done because otherwise its meh another plastic similar looking group i can skip.
Hi if you do another kpop opinions video pls take my comment but don't mention my name I think tzuyu deserved to be in mama nomination this year New jeans should disband Lisa is a western wannabe Kpop is now almost full of pretty privilege Your opinions on sultry film plz I love your videos
lisa is absolutely western wannabe, its both sad and annoying. i also feel like once they go to LA they don that typical influencer image almost dropping their underwear too which is not sometning everyone needs to see. i feel like idols totally change once they go above the normal or healthy amount of popularity and they lose track of who they are or whay they stand for and just become bubbleheads or clout chasing groupies that want western validation which make them boring not just bp but bts also started off really great then their egos got the best of them
the whole bts paved their way thingymajig they didnt, the western music scene was there long before its the same ole narrative with any bg that "takes over" the next generations obsession with them. the only reason blackpink and bts remain top girl and boy group is they hardly had much competition i think it was like 2016 when i came across them and at first i was easily swayed into being a fan due to them being from abroad they seemed new and interesting but now when they started going to grammys and really ramping themselves up as if they were beyonce or michael jacksons its when u need to dial their ego down a tad. i dont think a handful of english songs is enough for them to win any foreign award if anything they win a popularity award sure but grammys are not about popularity. and i think these groups come in to our western awards thinking they own it and they deserve all the awards but its more like they just give them to it to shut up their fans from whining online. it would be like if taylor swift went to korea to write a korean song then claimed the highest award she could just for one korean song? they dont research enough and vmas even had to give lisa her own category despite lisa having an all english based song with zero korean lyrics in it. whereas at least rose has varied language in hers it seems like a knock off and now she can use her paris boyfriend (handler) to get other opportunities in hollywood or wherever else. it seems ingenuine and forced. worst is i dont think they even care to truly learn about westerners they just desperate for any sort of inclusion or spotlight it gives them. its giving lisa wants to be a black woman but doesnt care for the culture around it. sorry for the spam got a lotta thoughts hehe love these videos though theyre really eye opening!
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq definitely i dont think anyones above or below any of the other groups just that each have their own ranking of popularity and its fine not to be the next bts or blackpink but its so expected of them its ridiuclous that they cant be their own group without nedding to have another jennie or another jisoo. they always seem to look for exact copycat of really popular idols and it doesnt work out for them
@@randomuser-nt9if no group is superior lyk everyone had their role. And sometimes it's not even the artists it's the crazy fans that will force u to admit that their faves are top.
No, it is quite simple BTS did pave the way because they were the face that came up first. The thing kpop haters and non fans say about any asian musicina is is that BTS. BTS paving the way does not discredit order groups it simply credits them. They did bad in Korea so they went abroad and found a spot they cultivated bridging the divide by sacrficing a lot of their own artistic integrity but that bridge welcomed a crazy amount of people. then BP became popular right after because that was the first touchdown after climbing the BTS bridge. Exposition to groups like Twice and Exo was an after occurence for most people but that doesn't make them lesser. It just means people all played a huge part in it BTS was a bridge because they released heavily westernized tracks, did a lot of youtube and collabs, also promotions. They did more abroad than the average group and a lot of BTS followers didn't like other stuff because they found things a little to different like BP cause it was different from western music but had alot of english lyrics (socialisers), They got soft lunched into kpop as a whole as companies started releasing songs with a little bit of english and western vibe as a b-side. Then most people entered kpop though a lot ran away or stayed strictly on two or one groups most of the population of internationals came from butter and dynamite era experienced Boombayah and ice cream and stayed. These groups brought people here but twice, exo, shinee, got7, treasure, ikon they made us stay as we explored other things and realised all kpop is not the same attaching to what we preferred. 4th gen kept us here with their dancing which is what mostly diffrentiated kpop. Thats why we saw a rise of dance focused groups. They overdid it with the craxy choreo and newer forth gen returned to vocals with less dance, those that didn't (Le seffarim) suffered for it because we got bored of dance. %th gen we expect to be a very vocal generation but we will soon suffer a lack of rappers which will be corrected by th gen which will have a lack of dance, visuals or charisma.
@@randomuser-nt9if no, we have a misconception about “who paved” the way, it’s like science discoveries, someone gets the credit but there are lots of generations of people researching behind, so actually, every group paved a little bit of the way, even fans and people like me who are only casual listeners
Pving the way Means digging it for it to be cemented But lets be real bts did pave the way Just compare them to bp in terms of income, fans, album sales etc theres a huge gsp Not hating on any group but lets bfr And army is hella big so . . . Each group just had it easier than the 2nd and 1st gen idols Now they just gotta cement a path for them selves and build it
mine is a lot of idols act out as their fans personal bf or gf but i feel like so many of them would be awful partners. not just in terms of the idols schedule and having to deal with knetz but in general there is more to them than their idol image. i think we would be stupid to say there isnt a few egodriven arseholes among idol groups who just purposefully would bulldoze someones idea of a genuine relationship because they have awful behaviours that people dont see because they are so easily deluded by their idols beloved image. the saying of never meet ur idols because they will dissapoint you in some way is oh so true im not saying dont meet them or try to hookup with them but dont act like you know them on a personal level because we really dont.
and it brings me to my next point of how idols always seem to seek approval from people / their fans and i tnink its vwry telling when someone is a exagerating their interest in someone else or even overusing a certain behaviour because rheir fans absolutely adore and worship everything about the idols that they clearly are doing nothing wrong ever. its so concieted to think these ppl wouldnt break someones heart.
theyre overprotective bc they think they own an idol. the only thing we can do is wish the idol well if they are not feeling their best. i dont get why anything else needs to be done or expected of us if we dont know them personally we cant do much from behind a screen so its up to idols to check in on their own wellbeing and health thats the least i expect them to be doing otherwise i cannot keep pitying and sympathising with every other idol all the time. their choices, their mistakes and their behaviours are all up to them. anything else and fans shouldnt keep rushing to an idol its very draining actually. especially if the idol is having a brekdown online like get offline bruh get help. its not our business to suddenly care for someone we dont even follow or know all the time.
Unpopular opinion and then straight up hating on BP for everything possible. Ofc Blinks will become toxic to defend them when literally they are the most hated group in the Kpop history(same for BTS by the way)
of course, but you should remember that defending them is a different thing. I mean, I basically believe you should defend your favs from blood suckers 😭 but then those category of blinks that hate on others and even the girls…they need help
@@rosalinescrib8011 I agree ofc but literally every fandom has its toxicity. That's what it means to be a stan and the bigger fandom, the more noticeable it is. And to be fair, in BP's case I mostly see solo stans hating on the other 3 girls. It is not like let's say bunnies or armies who mostly hate on other groups. And if we talk about ot4 blinks, they mostly hate on bts as well as the opposite. To be honest, I have never left a hateful comment in my life and cannot understand the satisfaction but can understand where everything comes from
@ it’s because most of them are just plain miserable and have no life
@@rosalinescrib8011 it is sad to be honest, I know most of us are under the age of 18 and many lose their years in this online community
@@musicinterest-dib or people can just have different feelings too
Mys, bunnies and babymonster stans are the biggest bullies and haters of other girl groups, while other girl group stans mind their business while these 3 fandoms focus on anything but their favs
@@sehbasareen6669 mys are the new blinks
@@sehbasareen6669 yeah, when another group Is criticized they start saying “well, that’s why we Stan Baby Monster”
My controversial opinion is that I actually want the new groups to fail, not because I don’t like the boys/girls, only because that is the only way to make the companies a reality check
10:20 and 11:08 are mine !! thank you for reacting loved your takes on my opinion on lisa
I WANTED TO SAY THIS SO BADDD LIKE ,IF YOU ARE STANNING A GROUP THAT U LYK THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GUILTY ABOUT. ITS OK IF YOU LISTEN TO OTHER IDOLS AND STAN THEM. SOME TOXIC STANS ACT LYK U COMMIT A SIN BY DOING THI. NOO, U DONT. THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED ME ONLINE ON TWITTER JUST BECAUSE I SAID THAT. ITS ANNOYING LYK KPOP IS NOT MY LIFE, IT IS SUPPOSE TO COMFORT ME NOT STRESS ME OUT. another thing, some fans do go OVERBOARD when it comes to voting or streaming. its my choice, not a fundamental right. I listen to alot of kpop bg songs just because i prefer them and find it more soothing that doesnt mean i degrade other gg or disrespect them. and honestly i find 3rd gen or 2nd gen songs to be more of my liking. i am just not into 5th gen or 4th gen. some of them have a really good but on the other hand a lot of them have a cute concept which i personally find cringe. i can never accept fully grown adults to act cute or enjoy music that sounds like nursery rhymes with catchy melody.
sorry i yapped too much😅
exactly i dont get this need of sticking to one group hating another group just like what u like it dont fucking matter its just music at the end of the day. omg even when an idol mentions their fans should stick to them it doesnt promote healthy behaviours and makes the idol seem really possessive like sorry u feel butthurt that u think ur fan would go go another groups concert however its their free will to do so as well? i like checking other groups out its fun. if i dont like it so be it not the end of the mf world.
@@randomuser-nt9if so right just lyk how fans Don't have the rights to control a artist lyf similarly artists also don't have the right to get possessive. I have seen many delulu fans acting head over heald just because their faves scolded them, it's not CUTE
@@pratikhyapattanaik ikr i agree so much with this, i think its fun when u like the groups as u want more casually cause its more freeing u really dont have to care about being so delulu and "loyal" to only one group, i think this about shipping too. the way these idols have certain clutches over their fans and vice versa is just getting way out of hand and i think social media is not helping them at all (the fans that is). ppl who are young fans of idol groups seem to be really gullible and believe every word their idol says and then they act like it is their belief also but its two different things.
4:03 Omg Thats Mine! Im So Glad You Reacted To My Opinion ;)
@@CourtneyE-13 and you were so rightttt 🥹✨
an opinion: twice would be the msot popular gg if black pink did debut, and i think shiner would be the most popular bg if bts didn't debut
well globalisation wouldn't have happened the way it did.
@@I_hv_no_brains... im srry but whats that😭?
@@xrizwjn Maybe
its baffling how few are genuinely able to hold varied notes and it leads me to think the people that debut groups are not in their right minds, half the idols that are overworshipped i would not even personally debut them. many go into idol lifestyle for benefits, their parents told them too or they had connections or they just want the attention from other girls or boys depending on what they want out of it but at the end of the day they gotta be good at what they do. they cant all just be pretty faces or wealthy. weve lowered the standards so much that other groups look really bad but its on them. if they cant improve they shouldnt be idols. tough luck but it is what it is and its not for everyone and thats ok too. like i say a lot of them probably go in with big egos and think theyre good until they find ohh their solos not actually good enough and rely on lipsynch and looking pretty to get by. i also think its a bit brash for them to totally change their image if they cannot perform well ie: they go to LA and start acting like every other wannabe influencer they dont bring nothing new to it, some are genuinely talented but many seem to think too highly of themselves and i dont think they have good self esteem either so they might overuse their abs on stage to get the young girls reactions rather than work on what they lack in. its really telling sometimes that these are manipulation techniques, felt that way since the one direction days. thats why i dont really care to deeply obsess over an idol for things that other younger fans obsess about its pointless kf they cant sing they cant perform or debut and probably shouldnt be in their grohp simple as that. think of all the ppl pr trainees that thought theyd be in lesserra for example, then they just put sakura in who clearly got in thru other means but yeah what a waste of ppls time and money
Sakura brought in fans, you act like you all genuinely stan talent. Kpop fans are really self righteous. Why do you think there is a high saturation of pretty faces. It's because you blooody pay for it, y'all by albums for photocards. Y'all follow people as a ride or die. In putting 2 good singers, a pretty face and 2 dancers (someone with an affinity for rap).
Thats why there are positions we complained about those so they were removed but shouldn't you use your common sense to not expect whistle tones for a dance focused group. I am tired of people saying Itzy is the standard they are exceptional, NMIXX as well. Give JYP idols their bloody flowers he is producing once ina lifetime talent because belting while doing a crtwheel should not be the bloody expectation for a human being.
AESPA being good at singing is the standard for a group of their Vocal focus but I still don't expect Arianna Grande and Shakira to sing the sam even tho they are both singers. ILLIT sure as hell can't belt like BM singers can and that is okay because two different artist shouldn't sound the same and sing the same songs if people prefer one they listen to it. It is not about skill/ talent equals popularity but highrer percentage of preference equals popularity. That is music you guys should stop yapping like you buy every single good artwork for the sake of it being good.
As this is kpop lets get the elephant out of the room personality, face card and promotion will always heavily affect popularity and that is not a bad thing. If Big 3/4 trainees get instant fast pass to fame good on them it wasn't easy to get in and many people never got to debut since they fought for that position. It is much easier to debut in a small company. If you were given more priviledge because you were rich and famous before debut it is not even still abad thing because money can but popularity but it will not get you any of this if you don't have a foundation for example Wonhee is barely higher than average in all stats but very high in charisma and visuals you pair her with somoene with less visuals and charisma but exceptional and unique singing (Minju), Someone with decent vocals and strong dance (Iroha), Good vocals and a relatable personality (Yunah) and A unique voice with charisma, charm and visuals (Moka).
If you chaeck the values the visual is very high collectively because despite what kpop fans say your spending habits and the numbers say you hate ugly people. You like youth as younger members are often more biased. You like great singers but you focus on one majorly like how in Enhypen most of the guys have good vocals but Heesung is the most glazed while Jay, Sunoo, Jungwon and the rest are giving their flowers in miniscule amounts. Y'all need 2 strong dancers for studio chooms and fan wars for an Ult group and writing credits had a lot of impact on popularity at least until recently we are swapping to vocals, the companies will answer but immediately everyone can belt we will turn to critisize the quality of rappers and once everyone can rap we'll stab at the dancing. then once we get back to this part we will critisize live vocals again. We as humans are ingrates and lackj any ability to think in the big picture and i'm reminded of that every bloody day.
my issue with blackpink is i feel like because they had connections or came from wealth they got in the group easily without needing to do much in the audition itself, only rose was the most interesting audition, i still dont know how jisoo debuted tbh although she has a likeable presence i dont think she adds anything new to the group and if they dont bring anything new to the group they dont really deserve their solos unless they show a keen interest in solos otherwise i think its ok for not all members to be soloists if they cannot keep up vocally or are using lipsynch (yes lisa looking at u bud)
sometimes an idol is best off as a soloist cause it seems when the members are in their groups theyre very uncoordinated and half of them look like they didnt want to be there on stage but give them a solo project and suddenly they care to perform well. very odd. ive seen younger groups give better effort than all of blackpink put together there was definitely some favoured more than others as well. i believe they were supposed to have several other members so i wondered how different it wouldve been had they had a leader who was more driven to succeed than to just half ass because they can or its hobby for the rich kids
Idk why but they are not embrace of their dancing they just embrace themselves infront of kpop idols who went to their korean concert
I think they do not care about their fans
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq i agree, they just seem to bask in the attention compared to even bts for example who genuinely seem to care about performing well. many times they prove they sing live but blackpink members use lipsynch to cover their weakness often forgetting lyrics and generally dancing like a 5 year old would at a birthday party type vibes. its such a shame because i really did like them at first until i realised they just didnt care and dont care about doing well as performers
If they didn't care they would have not released any music cause they already have money. They would have gone straight up modelling this year.
@@musicinterest-dib yeah but when have they taken real interest besides their solos?
@@randomuser-nt9if I am an athlete and if my coach decided to stop me from attending competitions, then I would have lost my interest in even training cause what's the point if I am not allowed to show what I am capable of
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I use CapCut 💗💗💗
7:10 thanks for picking mine😭❤️
Thanks for posting mine :)
Ngl I love how when you disagree you don’t make that person who made that comment feel stupid or act like only your opinion is valid ❤❤❤❤
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my thing with plagiurism isnt that just saying that groups arent their own image? oh yeah song is similar or a concept is similar but it doesnt detract from how good their song is or not? a group can have a different flavour from another and vice versa i dont get this need to pit one group against nother because they "copied" them no ones truly original anyway. big deal. same with the avril lavigne shit its like we cant like a newer version cause u might not like the original of a song and thats ok too. ppl do covers all the time and use aspects of others songs. i dont get why it needs that we have to railroad another groups potential because people feel salty that one song is doing better than another? whys it so hard for ppl to be so detremental to newish groups without giving them enough chance to show what theyre about?
the thing with sexuality is idols are clearly playing into shipping too much thats why its believeable that theyre dating and whatnot even if there are gay ones its ok too but we still dont know what they want or even prefer to be so why do we need to keep bringing it up? the only thing we can do is let them live regardless if they gay or straight. "oh but so and so really realllllllly must be dating another member" did anyone actually ask the idols themselves? no.. ppl just assume shit without knowing shit themselves.
@@randomuser-nt9if And they argument is “if I was him/her, I would also be dating” and also, why they assume everybody wants a partner? There are some people that genuinely not
@@1Uni7 exactly. no one genuinely asks the idols personally what they are interested in or if they are even interested in dating at all which contrary to their acting it out on stage is purely usually fanservice but it seems that word gets forgotten about as does the idols preferences for what they even want in the first place. sexuality is the last thing on my list of things id care about in regards of an idol next to shipping as well, i tnink to always tie two members together in a ship is asking for a disaster to happen or one member eventually getting fed up with it which i think happens more than we realise.
theres also members who are clearly uncomfortable with acting out skinship and i think other members shouldnt force them on it cause its like some idols really lack boundaries themselves and have not much respect for what their members want either. its ok jus to have a normal friendship connection without it needed to be analysed if they are dating or gay or bi they shouldnt be forced out which is what a lot of fans try to do on their faves.
@@1Uni7 then they might alsl be interested in acting it out but not interested on genuine romance i bet lots of them get hookups though. for sure.
last comment for the day groups like nct and tripleS are a disaster waiting to happen. too many members for anyone to gneuinely manage and not long enough for their training period, no ones going to care for the members after 5 of them wind up with scandals and or crimes or anything like that. its bad marketing tactic, i dont get where they felt the need to put so many members in overusing some members not having enough vocal variety either with debuting them too soon etc. groups nowadays seem very rushed even blackpinks training period did nothing for their vocals lmao dont debut with yg as babymon will wind up the same buncha pretty faces and jennie lookalikes or lisa wannabes
yooo i saw mine i never get in these videos
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im confused why twice is never mentioned i remember their earlier mvs getting so popular but ppl act like bts run the show its so lame and one sided as if all the groups are beneath that one group
They are popular they do not get mentioned bcuz they are not controversial but its not like that they are flopping they are getting popular day by day their concert seats are full especially in nissan and metlife
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq exactly but ppl often say in other opinion videos twice are flopping or itzy are flopping. nahh its just that they have rheir own success they cant be duplicate of bts or blackpink and its fine what they do
@@randomuser-nt9if i think we should not say that no on can be next bp or bts cuz if you had said someone in 2015 that will gonna be biggest group in world nobody would believe you and twice is a still big 3 group
Its mostly the next bts
And i will say this bts became popular for being themselves and trying to copy them is the opposite
I've seen soo many groups go from unique to robotic and i loose intrest
@@hanaa-nm7bk for real its not hard to find a group to be generally stiff after sometime u have to do something different otherwise it looks repetitive and uncreative. but i was speaking in terms of agencies and how theyre always looking for like little jennies and lisas or some other known idol no one can have their own unique look which makes them uninteresting as well. its like they cant find a balance between talent and looks, to me a lot of idols look eerily similar u think there would be many twins or triplets even. and i know they get surgery based on whats popular or what the agency thinks they need to fix but it doesnt make them better at times.
if anything it just makes them weird. some idols look like they would look usually but then they want another duplicate of that idol so thats where i find it boring after some time and if anyones going to be called a little jennie for all her life id get bored sick of it and quit performing. even in the auditions they dont really change much in terms of what the og group did and itd be cool if they had done because otherwise its meh another plastic similar looking group i can skip.
Hi if you do another kpop opinions video pls take my comment but don't mention my name
I think tzuyu deserved to be in mama nomination this year
New jeans should disband
Lisa is a western wannabe
Kpop is now almost full of pretty privilege
Your opinions on sultry film plz
I love your videos
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq Yes, new jeans should disband and Kpop is only pretty privilege and Sultry Film is crazy
lisa is absolutely western wannabe, its both sad and annoying. i also feel like once they go to LA they don that typical influencer image almost dropping their underwear too which is not sometning everyone needs to see. i feel like idols totally change once they go above the normal or healthy amount of popularity and they lose track of who they are or whay they stand for and just become bubbleheads or clout chasing groupies that want western validation which make them boring not just bp but bts also started off really great then their egos got the best of them
the whole bts paved their way thingymajig they didnt, the western music scene was there long before its the same ole narrative with any bg that "takes over" the next generations obsession with them. the only reason blackpink and bts remain top girl and boy group is they hardly had much competition i think it was like 2016 when i came across them and at first i was easily swayed into being a fan due to them being from abroad they seemed new and interesting but now when they started going to grammys and really ramping themselves up as if they were beyonce or michael jacksons its when u need to dial their ego down a tad. i dont think a handful of english songs is enough for them to win any foreign award if anything they win a popularity award sure but grammys are not about popularity.
and i think these groups come in to our western awards thinking they own it and they deserve all the awards but its more like they just give them to it to shut up their fans from whining online. it would be like if taylor swift went to korea to write a korean song then claimed the highest award she could just for one korean song? they dont research enough and vmas even had to give lisa her own category despite lisa having an all english based song with zero korean lyrics in it. whereas at least rose has varied language in hers it seems like a knock off and now she can use her paris boyfriend (handler) to get other opportunities in hollywood or wherever else. it seems ingenuine and forced. worst is i dont think they even care to truly learn about westerners they just desperate for any sort of inclusion or spotlight it gives them. its giving lisa wants to be a black woman but doesnt care for the culture around it. sorry for the spam got a lotta thoughts hehe love these videos though theyre really eye opening!
@@ShraddhaDubey-nz8vq definitely i dont think anyones above or below any of the other groups just that each have their own ranking of popularity and its fine not to be the next bts or blackpink but its so expected of them its ridiuclous that they cant be their own group without nedding to have another jennie or another jisoo. they always seem to look for exact copycat of really popular idols and it doesnt work out for them
@@randomuser-nt9if no group is superior lyk everyone had their role. And sometimes it's not even the artists it's the crazy fans that will force u to admit that their faves are top.
No, it is quite simple BTS did pave the way because they were the face that came up first. The thing kpop haters and non fans say about any asian musicina is is that BTS. BTS paving the way does not discredit order groups it simply credits them. They did bad in Korea so they went abroad and found a spot they cultivated bridging the divide by sacrficing a lot of their own artistic integrity but that bridge welcomed a crazy amount of people. then BP became popular right after because that was the first touchdown after climbing the BTS bridge. Exposition to groups like Twice and Exo was an after occurence for most people but that doesn't make them lesser.
It just means people all played a huge part in it BTS was a bridge because they released heavily westernized tracks, did a lot of youtube and collabs, also promotions. They did more abroad than the average group and a lot of BTS followers didn't like other stuff because they found things a little to different like BP cause it was different from western music but had alot of english lyrics (socialisers), They got soft lunched into kpop as a whole as companies started releasing songs with a little bit of english and western vibe as a b-side. Then most people entered kpop though a lot ran away or stayed strictly on two or one groups most of the population of internationals came from butter and dynamite era experienced Boombayah and ice cream and stayed. These groups brought people here but twice, exo, shinee, got7, treasure, ikon they made us stay as we explored other things and realised all kpop is not the same attaching to what we preferred.
4th gen kept us here with their dancing which is what mostly diffrentiated kpop. Thats why we saw a rise of dance focused groups. They overdid it with the craxy choreo and newer forth gen returned to vocals with less dance, those that didn't (Le seffarim) suffered for it because we got bored of dance. %th gen we expect to be a very vocal generation but we will soon suffer a lack of rappers which will be corrected by th gen which will have a lack of dance, visuals or charisma.
@@randomuser-nt9if no, we have a misconception about “who paved” the way, it’s like science discoveries, someone gets the credit but there are lots of generations of people researching behind, so actually, every group paved a little bit of the way, even fans and people like me who are only casual listeners
Pving the way
Means digging it for it to be cemented
But lets be real bts did pave the way
Just compare them to bp in terms of income, fans, album sales etc theres a huge gsp
Not hating on any group but lets bfr
And army is hella big so . . .
Each group just had it easier than the 2nd and 1st gen idols
Now they just gotta cement a path for them selves and build it