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How to install the NODIZ pro ignition ECU
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2018
- Buy the NODIZ: motorsport-electronics.co.uk/...
NODIZ manual: docs.google.com/document/d/14...
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In this video I show you in detail how to install the NODIZ pro standalone ignition ecu. To run the NODIZ pro needs a minimum of a crankshaft position sensor, a coil pack and a trigger wheel. To have a true 3d ignition setup you will also need to provide the NODIZ with a load reference, which I have decided to do with a throttle position sensor fitted to my CBR600 bike carbs. So in the video you will see how to install the NODIZ itself, install the crankshaft position sensor, trigger wheel, coil pack, and throttle position sensor, and connect everything to each other. You will also see how to adjust the position of the trigger wheel, adjust base offset angle and calibrate the tps
The NODIZ Pro™ is a state of the art microprocessor controlled digital stand-alone, fully mappable ignition controller for four, six or eight cylinder spark ignition engines. It can be used either to replace older distributor based ignition systems for more modern coil packs, or even to allow the running of carburettors on more modern engines which do not feature a distributor drive. It features in-built coil drivers, so no need for EDIS or any external modules.
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I never fail at learning new things from your videos. You are really good at what you do.
When this is more useful that the stuff you learn at school
I nodized that the nodiz uses nodizzy anymore.
That is a very good explanation dude.
Keep up the good work 👍
Looking at the NODIZ site, they are actually using your videos for their install guide. I'm grabbing one for my Scirocco 16v with Yamaha r1 carbs. Thanks for all the info.
You just saved my life!!! I been looking for something like this for years! You da real m.v.p. 😢
Very nice video. I just bought a C20XE with a nodiz and I need to learn this to set it all up. Thank you so much for the video! :)
Amazing video and demonstration.. This education is what many are missing.. Thank you.
youre the man! - re-watched this with adblock turned off for you haha
Very good video. Waiting for mine to arrive so I may install it on a 67 Sunbeam Alpine
really great install video. Saving ... Thanks again.
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very good and easy to understand video
Dude where do you get those killer euro style coveralls from? I recently went back to work at an auto repair shop and want to get some of those for work. Also, another great vid! I hope to get my hands on an old Celica or Corolla in the near future and your videos are an excellent real-world tutorial! Keep it up my friend!!!
Wait... What coilovers?
driving 4 answers coveralls! Your work uniform, the awesome looking pants with all those pockets! I wanna be sophisticated too! Lol! Love ya brother!
wait wtf
where do you live?
Benjamin Buljevic Aberdeen, WA, USA. I'll have to do some googling to find that type of workgear...
here in europe you can get them in any hardware store or sometimes theire sold in places like aldi
the german name is latzhose
Hi please share about how ignition work and how to get the best timing thanks
Hey, its really interesting, does it works with LS coils tho ? In a wasted spark setup using LS coils (the ones with build in igniters, cuz I have these ones laying around and I feel bad about buying a coil pack when I can use them)
I am thinking of doing a COP upgrade. Is a speeduino as a piggyback ignition control with the map, crank position and maybe throttle position sensor a good idea? I did a little research. It looks possible.
Is this what i need for m y 1986 celica gts 3sge? Maybe a estimated affordible solution for my car to get performance egnition?
You should make a video on changing all the vacuum lines
I know your pain. Ive had two cars that had extreme vacuum issues. I just wanted to take it to a mechanic and throw money at them to fix it. But im a budget buddy :(
is it safe to avoid intake air filter on the carbs?
Hey man, great vid as always!
Couple of questions:
1) Would you recommend a NODIZ setup to "just" get rid of your dizzy? I want to modernize my 4age a little bit but I do want to keep my TB and fuel system stock to keep that simple. Will that work?
2) Stock TPS has 4 pins. NODIZ setup has 3. Will that work?
3) Curious if you could answer it: will the NODIZ make the throttle smoother? Reason why I am asking, is because I've had a difficult time adjusting the TPS with the TB. Could a NODIZ calibration solve this issue? (Hope that somewhere made sense? Haha)
Hvala!!
1. No
2. No
3. See 1 and 2
Nodiz wasn't designed to work with the stock ECU, it's an ignition only Ecu and therefore intended for carb applications.
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@@d4a hero! Hvala hvala 🤗
Hey, loving your videos! I am currently running a 20v Blacktop 4AGE in my AW11 and was interested in this Nodiz. If you didn't have carbs, what would you need to use to control the fuel injectors? Piggyback on the stock ECU? Hope you can help me clear this up.
I guess you could use the stock ecu to control the injectors but it might not work right. If you're going with fuel injection the nodiz doesn't really make much sense and an aftermarket ecu like the megasquirt or haltech or aem or anything else will run both ignition and injection for you from a single box. It will be less wires and less hassle.
@@d4a Thanks for the quick response! I appreciate the input. I was really interested in deleting my distributor on my MR2s as they have been problematic in the past. Looks like Megasquirt is the way to go!
Will this ecu work on a individual coil on plug set up?
how do you set the rev limit?
This may not be the right video to comment on but its your most recent one. I'm planning on doing a bike carb conversion on my 85' mr2, my question is do you have some kind of choke setup?
The carbs have choke on them. I haven't installed any sorr of choke cable in the cabin tho. Bike carbs need choke to start only when it's seriously cold, so I won't be needing it most of the time.
what i need to work on mustang v8 5.0
Why do you reference to TPS instead of MAP? Isn't MAP more proportional to engine load? And BTW you could drill holes in the outer diameter of the flywheel with an indexer and a mill (yeah I know that you might not have that at home, but a local machine shop can do that) and use that for triggering, but the signal will probably be inverted...
Can we do carburetor conversation in automatic transmission car and can we use nodiz because automatic transmission have a valvebody wich use kick down cable from throatal actuator for shifting in low gears for overtaking and speed up the car or getting more torque so what about that scenario...???
yes just attach it the same way. the kick down cable attaches to the gas pedal and transmission and doesnt affect anything here
hi sir,can you make tutorial on how to tune safc neo on 4age 20v bt?
What's a safc neo? Also I don't own a 20v
90 degrees before tdc ! In the vid you mark to the left on the pully is that not after tdc ? The engine runs clockwise
do oem 4AGE plug wires fit the ford coil pack?????????
Does this system work with the nissan sr20 engine
Can this be used on a single cylinder engine?
Hi @driving 4 answers, my question: What ignition leads do you use in this setup, with de Ford Coil ?
thats a good question
i cant get on your website to buy the bracket is there another place for it?
Hi, Great info thanks. Mines all in and running. You mentioned a 2nd clip on how to connect to android dashboard and to the ezmap. Have you got a link to this. I have no chance of connecting to either, and trust me i have tried. Thanks
What do you mean by link? You enable Bluetooth on your device and pair with Nodiz. Make sure you don't have two devices trying to connect to it otherwise neither will work.
@@d4a a link to your 2nd tutorial as metioned at the end of this one. For the mapping process and also the android app. I can not get either to work. All reviews on play store state that they can not connect. Device is recongnized so is this a software/app issue ?
Here's the ignition map tuning ua-cam.com/video/d34VE-DrjAQ/v-deo.html
When it comes to the android app it is a hit and miss for me too. For example if you connect your laptop (which connects totally ok for me) and then try the android app, it never works. I first have to get my laptop to forget the Nodiz and then get the cellphone to forget the Nodiz too, and then have my cellphone be the first to connect to the app. And even this only works sometimes. Sometimes it just plain refuses to connect, or connects after like 30 min of driving. It worked decently with my old Xperia phone, but almost never with my new Huawei.
I was with on everything mechanical... but now you might as well be speaking gibberish, lol. Good stuff
Does the crank position sensor have to be 90 degrees before tdc too or can u put it in any location around the trigger wheel?
The missing tooth of the trigger wheel must pass the sensor when engine is at 90 degrees before tdc
@@d4a as you have explained in the video, the NODIZ ECU will anyways calibrate for firing at TDC, so how does this 90° retarding positioning matter? Just curious.. Please don't mind..
@@d4a another query, can this ECU be installed on a Carb having a Point Distributor without Electronic TPS?? Mine is a 1996 model ECM-less 4 Cylinder 1 Litre Suzuki G10B Engine, please help how to get the TPS installed.. Or is it alright to install the NODIZ till the crank positioning setup connections without the second part of TPS calibration, will it still work because the ignition sequencing still works as seen in your video? 🤔
If I have the sensor almost 180⁰ than yours is, the missing tooth must be also the same as your is, 90⁰ from TDC?
I thought one of your videos said how to wire the fuel pump to the nodiz pro that turns on at a hunderd RPM can't find that can you tell me how you do that Using a relay
i dont remember him making a video about that also if your fuel pump doesnt turn on till 100rpm your engine probably wont start. use the auxilliary output on the nodiz to switch the fuel pump relay and then in the nodiz tuning software set the aux to turn on at 100rpm
1:48 And how about trigger wheel inside the distributor, which reads the position of the exhaust camshaft?
Can't make use of that. It would be way too complicated and wouldn't really make much sense when there's a tried and tested solution out there already.
for sure, anyway thanks for the video!
I run a blacktop AE111 4age 20v with a coil on plug conversion in my AE71 panelvan. I went with an Australian made microtech ecu, as I live in Aus, and you can pick them up cheap, 2nd hand LT10s was $550AUS. It uses the trigger wheel in the distributor for the crank angle reference so I can control ignition sequentially (or can do batched if you use coil pack). This is a full sequential fuel and ignition (on 4cyl) ecu, so overkill for bike carb set-up.
i have a question does it work with coil on plug instead of single coilpack so 4 coils with no waste spark?
Doesn't work with COPs as far as I know, only with the ford coil
Im regards to a zetec engine if your carbs do not have the 3 wires for tps does the tps wires need to be connected else where or can they be disregarded?
You can freely disregard them in that scenario, but you will only have a 2d ignition map in that case unless you use map for load reference.
Thankyou very much
Is there a dizzy delete plug/bracket or do I have to leave the dead dizzy installed?
I used to make and sell one with my CNC, but I don't anymore. You can make a simple plug at any machine shop, shouldn't cost too much. My early ones were interference fit, just hammer them in and be done with it.
Are you still selling the bracket for the crank position sensor? The link seems to be dead?
If my distributor has vacuum advance timing, I wouldn’t need to do any of this right? Just connect the vacuum line to the vacuum rail on the intake manifold?
Yup, although this is still a superior setup.
driving 4 answers thanks for getting back 🤘🏻 greatly appreciated!
If you could do it over, what would you change?
hi. do you really feel big differences over the electronic dizzy. what are the cons and pro over a electronic dizzy.
electronic dizzy has vacuum advance
This engine never had a distributor with vacuum advance. But when properly tuned the differences are drastic.
Can it use to honda fd? The problem of my honda has no power to the coil and injectors so im planning to install a carburator
You can use it on any engine.
@@d4a how much it coast for philippine money
There's a link in the description, check it out.
Will the nodiz work on 3sge beams? Thinking about swapping my ae86 with that engine
It will work on anything. You just need a crank sensor, a suitable ignition coil and optionally a throttle position sensor. I say go for it, the Beams is awesome.
@@d4a thanks' i wish i have the talent like you' but i will make an attemp in the future' if i get stuck ill just hire you to do my swap ... :)
Hey, do you know if the v8 version and 4 cylinder version of nodiz is the same?
The v8 version needs two coil packs if I remember correctly but I don't know whether there any differences inside the control module itself. It's of course best to ask Nodiz / Motorsport electronics directly.
@@d4a thanks. I tried sending an e-mail. No answer. Because i see There is an separate option for the v8 version. Great video thanks
Can the crankshaft position sensor withstand water as it is installed on the outside?
Absolutely, water is not a problem.
Try to avoid weathering if possible. But it should be fine. You know. Make the part last as long as possible
Can this nodiz be used with GSXR1000 bike carbs on a 1340cc Ford Crossflow engine?
Sure can, it doesn't matter which bike carbs you use
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I'm interested in the trigger kit that you sell... I tried to access the link that is on the video but it wont let me access the link....
I don't sell it anymore
For wasted spark and trgger wheel setups, Ford 32-1 is the best, as every ecu on the planet works with this combination.
i have a problem with my 3.0L V6 DOHC 24v VR4 engine from 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T weird noise coming from the engine and i don't know whats making the noise. maybe you can give me an idea or someone that has an idea of what could be.
thanks.
It's an engine which has a hundred moving parts, most of which can make weird noises. If you have a video with really well recorded sound the best anyone can do is try to make an educated guess, which won't get you any further than you are now. Just take it to a reputable mechanic and have it sorted.
i have a video i could shoot it to you. and if posible can make a lucky guess.
Just paste the link here and I'll give it a try
ua-cam.com/video/0BHlzz-4cYM/v-deo.html
@driving4answers what did you do with the distributor
???
Put it on a shelf?
driving 4 answers no I mean didn’t you use any part of the rotating assembly and just ran the engine off the coil pack?
Do your sencor bracket fit for a agze engine? Is it still posdible to buy it from you?
I don't sell them anymore unfortunately. Covid ruined international shipping.
@@d4a if its not to much trouble for you to let me know when and if you start selling them again, or if you have a link to other option for me. And again.. thank you for a lot of nice info
@@randomtoyotadude8952 I definitely won't be selling them in the foreseeable future. You have alternatives from MRP and FLO's
What if my stock trigger wheel only has 13 teeth
Basic function of a engine is to convert liquid energy into mechanical energy.
Basic functions of a injector
1 control the amount of fuel going into the engine.
2 atomise the fuel so it can be easily ignited
Basic function of a sparkplug
To Ignite the air/fuel mixture in a combustion chamber
Basic function of a cam shaft
Converts a rotation motion into a vertical motion
Basic function of a crank shaft
Converts a vertical motion into a rotation motion
Basic function of a ECU Electronic Control Unit
Is to correctly fire or trigger the ignition coils and fuel injectors verses the engine angles at and on time
ok
Why did u have it spark at TDC when the manual says 10BTDC? You loose horsepower if u have it at that setting.
I didn't have it sparking at tdc. If you watch the video you will see and hear me explain that I only rotated the engine to tdc in order to figure out where 90 degrees btdc is so I can install the trigger wheel at that position because the missing tooth of the wheel must hit the sensor at 90 btdc for Nodiz to work. When the engine sparks is then determined by adjusting it inside the Nodiz software by adjusting the offset and/or changing it in the map directly.
are you refering to when he sets the offset for the trigger wheel? it should be set to 0 so the nodiz knows exactly where TDC is
Can this make the 4age run at 10,000 rpms?
You can make any engine run at 10.000, question is for how long
@@d4a let me rephrase my question. Can the nodiz ecu let the engine run at those rpms? Or is their a set rev limiter?
When I crank my engine the nodiz doesnt flash its lights. Is that normal?
Nope, something isn't right. Check your wiring.
@@d4a I checked and it's all there. It has 12v going into it and the red light flashes when I give it power. Once I give it gas while cranking it starts
@@slow_carsgarage7422 Ok. If it starts it's ok but it should be flashing when cranking.
How are you going to run a tachometer?
Nodiz has an output that suits almost all aftermarket tachometers
@@d4a really where I have a pro 2 and cant see it. What color wire is it?
I don't know from the top of my head. All the details and wire colors are in the nodiz manual. I also have a video on installing a aftermarket tacho and connecting it with nodiz that you can check out.
Okay thanks papi
I cant find the video
Nice job explaining, as always. I trust that you will run an air cleaner eventually. Would hate to see you ruin your beautiful engine by sucking in some crap.
Absolutely, I have a nice big pipercross air filter ready :)
I fell asleep from all that praying. Lol
Praying?
@@d4a check out how many times you put your hands together. It almost felt like you were preaching. I just thought it was funny.
Hahahaj! Holy crap I can't unsee it now. I didn't know I do this lol
1000$+ spent for 10-20 hp gain?))
But heeey, bike carbs are bad-ass!
And significantly better throttle response, fuel economy, and more full powerband
Svjetska banka 😂
Why didn’t you just get Megasquirt? You can’t adjust fuel with this..
Hellooouu? Carburetors...
LUKE h clueless the engine ECM / does not have adjustment nor controls the fuel pressure. Because it a mechanical adjustment. Wtf are you on about you can’t adjust fuel pressure by the ECM . Wow another clueless car enthusiast.
LUKE h troll
driving 4 answers ahhh. Didn't realize you were carbed..I thought you were still efi with individual throttle bodies. I don't watch all of your vids but you have some good content!
Gaz Girl I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since English isn't your first language...nowhere did I mention fuel pressure LOL. Do you even know what Megasquirt is?
Pozdrav:)
I installed nodiz on my vintage alfa romeo. It works good only for 2D spark and tach output. I am using a VW Wiring loom supplied by ME. I am having a problem with TPS signal (or rather reading in the NODIZ EZ-tune). It is erratic and at idle junps from 0% to 8-9%......
I have tried with 4 different TPS sensors (BMW and Ford),
I tested the TPS signal with osciloscope and it is stable,
I tested with annother Nodiz unit (I have 2), It is the same,
Grounds are good,
Power supply is stable.
The erratic TPS reading makes a TPS 3d ignition useless....
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Where should I look next?
I contacted ME customer support, we cannot come to any conclusion... They claim I should not have problem with running with unstable signal, but the car is undrivable.
Videos of the erratic TPS reading (photos.app.goo.gl/sCAvhow9W3gceE2m8)
Anyone? :)
Hello. Why it doesn't work on vacuum advance distributors?
I don't understand your question
@@d4a you said you can use it on carburated engines that do not feature a vacuum advance distributor. You mean it does not work with these type of engines?
I didn't say that. I said that if you don't have a vacuum advance distributor you already have ignition advance and you don't need this unless you want programmable ignition maps for tuning and performance purposes.
it does work with vacuum advance distributor. the 4AGE doesnt have a vacuum advance distributor so he uses nodiz