A factorial problem from the American Invitational

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  • Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
  • In this video, I solved a factorial problem from the 2003 AIME I.

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  • @pojuantsalo3475
    @pojuantsalo3475 Місяць тому +22

    This is a very simple problem that only looks intimidating.

  • @JamesWanders
    @JamesWanders Місяць тому +6

    I had no idea how to tackle this one; nice problem and solution!

  • @surendrakverma555
    @surendrakverma555 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent explanation Sir. Thanks 👍

  • @IntegrandoNoCotidiano
    @IntegrandoNoCotidiano 15 днів тому

    Amazing!!

  • @jacobgoldman5780
    @jacobgoldman5780 Місяць тому +2

    From the onset this looks like numerator is 720! And denominator is 6 so this turns into 719!x120 or k=120 and n=719 so k+n=839.

  • @vitotozzi1972
    @vitotozzi1972 Місяць тому

    beautiful!!!!

  • @Pramit1156
    @Pramit1156 Місяць тому +16

    5:04 Only smart people claim themselves to not be smart. you are indeed very very smart. Otherwise you wouldn't have chosen Mathematics as a subject to start a channel on.

    • @Redstoner34526
      @Redstoner34526 Місяць тому

      Not necessarily but I agree this guy is a very good teacher and is pretty smart

  • @m.h.6470
    @m.h.6470 Місяць тому +1

    Solution:
    3! = 6
    6! = 720
    so the left side is
    720! / 6 = 720 / 6 * 719! = 120 * 719!
    so k = 120 and n = 719
    k + n = 120 + 719 = 839

  • @rotten-Z
    @rotten-Z Місяць тому

    By Z+ do you mean the natural numbers N?

  • @wonghonkongjames4495
    @wonghonkongjames4495 Місяць тому

    Good Afternoon,Sir,
    My first intuition to the solution was 6k = 720, then k = 120,hence k + n is 839
    But I don't know whether there are other alternatives or not
    Good Day & Thank you,Sir

  • @amirrozenmanmalach3771
    @amirrozenmanmalach3771 Місяць тому +3

    Instead of Z+ you can use N

    • @holyshit922
      @holyshit922 Місяць тому +2

      They are the same only when you exclude zero from natural numbers

    • @fabriceaxisa
      @fabriceaxisa Місяць тому +2

      @@holyshit922 Depends of which part of the globe you are from. Some people considered that 0 belongs to N, some other not. Strangely there are rules for it. As a european, 0 belongs to N but not to N*, however I saw sometimes non european using N as N*. Sometime tricky

    • @amirrozenmanmalach3771
      @amirrozenmanmalach3771 Місяць тому

      @@fabriceaxisa he said positive integers, 0 does not count

    • @fabriceaxisa
      @fabriceaxisa Місяць тому

      @@amirrozenmanmalach3771 0 belongs to N, belongs to Z+ and belongs to Z-, but not to N*

    • @holyshit922
      @holyshit922 Місяць тому

      @@amirrozenmanmalach3771 I with @fabriceaxisa write about your proposition to write N instead of Z+ showing that this would be ambiguous

  • @devcoolkol
    @devcoolkol Місяць тому

    If n and k would've belonged to Positive Q, then it is possible that k = 1/6 and n=720.

  • @zoomeg06
    @zoomeg06 3 дні тому

    The school curriculum in America is very easy.

  • @Brandon37_
    @Brandon37_ Місяць тому +1

    I don’t understand why n can’t be 720 and k can’t be 1/6, it’s functionally the same just without the added step of taking a factor of 720 out to make it 719!, why isn’t 720.16666666….. a correct answer?

    • @pillegraknel4308
      @pillegraknel4308 Місяць тому

      Because k has to be in the Set of positive integers.

    • @Brandon37_
      @Brandon37_ Місяць тому +1

      @@pillegraknel4308oh I thought it was just positive numbers that makes sense

  • @world669
    @world669 Місяць тому +3

    I solve this within 30 seconds

  • @aurochrok634
    @aurochrok634 Місяць тому +2

    why is this an olympiad level problem? i did it in my mind in about a minute before i had my morning coffee…

    • @rafiihsanalfathin9479
      @rafiihsanalfathin9479 Місяць тому

      This is 2003 AIME I (there is I and II), of course its easy because its AIME I, 21 years ago, and its literally the number 1 question in the paper

  • @Pramit1156
    @Pramit1156 Місяць тому +5

    I don't think 8 mins 41 secs is needed to solve this problem, I did it within a minute.

    • @harvv5706
      @harvv5706 Місяць тому

      Wait how??

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Місяць тому +14

      I'm glad you you could do that.

    • @il_solito_anonimo9164
      @il_solito_anonimo9164 Місяць тому +13

      Me too. I think he took 8 minutes and 41 seconds to explain It in the best way possible

    • @Pramit1156
      @Pramit1156 Місяць тому

      @@harvv5706 Simple
      (3!)!)!/3! = k.n!
      -> (6!)!/6 = k.n!
      -> 720!/6 = k.n!
      -> 720.719!/6 = k.n!
      -> 120. 719! = k.n!
      -> k=120 , n=719
      Tell me how many seconds will it take to mentally realize this ? Maximum 20 sec. So yeah , well within a minute

    • @guerreromendieta
      @guerreromendieta Місяць тому +7

      dont tell a man how to do his job. it's a video intended for people who knows little math and that's prime newtons style.