MSI SUPRIM 4090 Liquid X repair

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • Board damaged by a screw making it not repairable so the donor board had to be used.
    For repair, please contact me by following the link in the channel ABOUT page.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 370

  • @Mellman-g9p
    @Mellman-g9p Місяць тому +176

    Dude literally could have left this card alone and it would have been just fine for years.

    • @derim006
      @derim006 Місяць тому +22

      people are idiots they want 1 c down so bad or 5 c temp and break gpu :(((( easy thing if you want some temps down put one more cooler under your gpu ...

    • @ranjitmandal1612
      @ranjitmandal1612 Місяць тому +1

      🫡

    • @volkov956
      @volkov956 Місяць тому +4

      makes u wonder what people are using when taking and putting back together

    • @ariewijaya1679
      @ariewijaya1679 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe they surprise seeing the hotspot temp and gddr6x temp that reached 100c when rendering

    • @CallMeMasterBabo
      @CallMeMasterBabo Місяць тому +2

      @@derim006 thats exactly how i killed my gtx 970 ti, i had no knowledge about cooling pads those small passive ones, probably removed it and fried it, oops.

  • @fredygump5578
    @fredygump5578 Місяць тому +104

    From these videos, I would say cards don't die when the thermal paste dries out. Cards fail when someone decides changing the thermal paste will help them compete!

    • @ranjitmandal1612
      @ranjitmandal1612 Місяць тому

      😭

    • @HarmonRAB-hp4nk
      @HarmonRAB-hp4nk Місяць тому +1

      dunno my 1060 is still running after 8 years....

    • @zemudikat
      @zemudikat Місяць тому +1

      @@HarmonRAB-hp4nk my 1070 is running very cool after 7.5 years. if everything is working why even bother repasting it

    • @maybelbdidit
      @maybelbdidit 25 днів тому +2

      @@zemudikat because you should be replacing paste over time, "working" doesn't mean healthy.

    • @123Suffering456
      @123Suffering456 6 днів тому

      Sometimes, repasting is kind of necessary after long use... or if the stock thermal paste is just awful. My 2080 has had the worst thermal paste that I've ever seen. I noticed because the temps were becoming awful after around a year of use only. I opened it and found the majority of the stock paste had pumped out. Had never done a repaste on a GPU before, luckily I knew to be careful and it paid off. Could use the card normally again with good temps for years until I upgraded recently.

  • @stoptheirlies
    @stoptheirlies Місяць тому +70

    Hi Tony, I have been doing Electronic repairs for longer than you have been alive, I'm 72 now, and I have to say you are awesome! You repair things like this that I would have said were beyond economical repair, I don't know what you charge but I know it won't be enough, well done mate. Bob. UK

    • @giantbellend
      @giantbellend Місяць тому +6

      @@rct3bigthe hell are you rambling on about.

    • @jones1409
      @jones1409 Місяць тому

      @@rct3big 🤡🤡

    • @LiquidSnakeSSJ4
      @LiquidSnakeSSJ4 Місяць тому

      @@giantbellend he's talking about how human skin gets thinner as we age and loses it's resistence properties meaning smaller electric shocks are more likely to kill you compared to when we're younger

    • @bismuth7730
      @bismuth7730 Місяць тому +1

      It doesnt look economical to me either, but then i remember that graphics card in this video is about $2000.

    • @Dcscockpit
      @Dcscockpit Місяць тому +1

      I just had a 3090 ftw3 ultra repaired by him it was a flat rate of 250, plus parts (5$) plus the cost of new thermal
      Pads was 25$. The card is 1,200-1,400$ new still I sent him so well worth it. He is way cheaper than north ridge repair

  • @The_Officer_DWm
    @The_Officer_DWm Місяць тому +26

    As an owner of one of these cards, why someone would open it up this early in its life is beyond me. I didn’t crack open my 1080 Ti for 5 years until I replaced its thermals parts

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 Місяць тому +4

      Some people don't understand the saying "if it ain't broken don't fix it."

    • @H34Rt54
      @H34Rt54 21 день тому

      because someone thought it was a good idea to suggest replacing the thermal paste like it’s an oil change every few months. the card owner, of course decided to mod it themselves.

    • @icecold3426
      @icecold3426 День тому

      @@H34Rt54 I didnt touch my 1080 gtx for 9 years and while not worth much anymore i was still super carefull, but after that my temps dropped like good 10-15c. not worth even opening at least for 5 years when is brand new

  • @ChrisFaulkner
    @ChrisFaulkner Місяць тому +44

    Sometimes, the customer is not always right.. Hopefully the customer will listen to you on keeping those temps down.

    • @HopletSplayserovich
      @HopletSplayserovich Місяць тому +3

      The transition works like this: you need to heat it up a couple of times and it will settle.

    • @fahisaurus
      @fahisaurus Місяць тому +8

      The full saying is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste". They aren't smart, just that they know what they like.

  • @fulgerion
    @fulgerion Місяць тому +43

    hmm, it looks like they didn't pull the water block straight up. They removed it like opening a door. So the guides that go into that mounting hole prying up the PCB

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +10

      yeah looks like it.

    • @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
      @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Місяць тому +7

      It's almost like a screw-up, but I can't make that joke here :(

    • @lemagreengreen
      @lemagreengreen Місяць тому +1

      Ahhhh that makes sense, I was trying to work out how that damage could occur. Good thinking

    • @1SaG
      @1SaG Місяць тому +1

      That explanation makes a lot of sense.

  • @xianbozhou1111
    @xianbozhou1111 Місяць тому +21

    Great repair, when I saw you placed the order, I picked the PCB board that's in better condition than others. I'm glad that it works! I'm trying to get better condition PCB boards now, hope that can make your repair work easier in the future.

    • @thomaskunz8029
      @thomaskunz8029 Місяць тому

      Order from where?

    • @Dcscockpit
      @Dcscockpit Місяць тому

      @@thomaskunz8029I’m guessing the guy that commented sells donor boards and Tony bought it from him. Didn’t think that was a hard guess but…

    • @merkedgg6322
      @merkedgg6322 Місяць тому

      Can please drop your link so we can check your boards?

    • @niklasniklasniklas1
      @niklasniklasniklas1 12 днів тому

      So if i were to order one i would get a bad one ’cause i don’t do videos? 😂

    • @xianbozhou1111
      @xianbozhou1111 11 днів тому

      @@niklasniklasniklas1 Well, you might get a bad one even you do videos. Just joking, it depends on what I have in hand, usually I'll pick the better condition boards to send

  • @meakle001
    @meakle001 Місяць тому +7

    I believe thermal grizzly now includes a little bit of oil to help hold the sheet in place during install. i saw a derbauer video explaining it.

  • @RngmonsterX
    @RngmonsterX Місяць тому +7

    You sir, made me buy my own soldering station cuz i have multiple broken GPUs (mainly broken traces) and you made me learn about all that stuff. THANK YOU! (well, not a thank you from my GF.. xD)
    Oh and THATS what you call "better than factory"

  • @DrDrobotnik
    @DrDrobotnik Місяць тому +1

    I have this same card and I pray the day never comes when I need it repaired.

  • @Xorat
    @Xorat Місяць тому +30

    3D printers are going strong in the background! I've seen a lot of your designs!
    Would be really interested in your printers and their setup!

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +22

      Bambulab P1S
      Very nice printer but firmware is closed source making it a pain in the back for people like me

  • @Charlie-nc3cp
    @Charlie-nc3cp 2 дні тому

    First repairman in history to say "I want one of these myself" and not go on to try and tell the customer the repair failed and he will buy the card for half of market value

  • @MrDontaDarkeo
    @MrDontaDarkeo Місяць тому +7

    when you do the time lapse my brain autoplays the king of the hill opening.

  • @mortarat
    @mortarat Місяць тому +11

    Mad respect, you beautiful bastard Tony. Much love

  • @titan557
    @titan557 Місяць тому +9

    Roman (der8auer) just did a video on Juul 14, 2024 "Something is Wrong with our Video Editing Rig..." @ 13:40 mark. Roman stated that Thermal Grizzly is now including a small amount of KryoSheet Applicator Oil with each new KryoSheet to keep it in place.

    • @MartinGod3992
      @MartinGod3992 Місяць тому +1

      He also said you can also just use some Silicone oil if you dont have the one supplied as an FYI

  • @vvb890
    @vvb890 Місяць тому +6

    I love my suprim liquid x 4090, amazing card. Came from a suprim x 3070ti. Msi suprim are my favorite cards since evga is gone.

    • @fffrrraannkk
      @fffrrraannkk Місяць тому +1

      I love that card. It was the only 4090 that would fit in my case.

    • @simontemplar8719
      @simontemplar8719 Місяць тому +2

      Same. Only 4090 that fits. Actually awesome it's AIO, dumps the heat out of the case.

  • @misterhoudi2824
    @misterhoudi2824 Місяць тому +1

    Finally! A hybrid GPU fix! I have been dying for this!

  • @daniellightfoot7941
    @daniellightfoot7941 11 днів тому

    just throwing this out there I've had my 1080 Ti MSI X Corsair Hydro since they were released - game on it every day and have never opened it up- works great

  • @BanksRacing11
    @BanksRacing11 Місяць тому +17

    Your supposed to tack the cryo sheet down with a little thermal paste. I use a toothpick doesn't take much.. Keep up the good work God Bless.

  • @hashemmi24
    @hashemmi24 Місяць тому +2

    i believe he put one bolt and tightened it but the other side was a bit crooked, then the shoulder of the second bolt did that mess. Due to the plate inability to rotate from the tightened first bolt, the threads got in place correctly but the bolt was shifted enough for it's shoulder to act as a shear.

  • @LOLHoneybadger
    @LOLHoneybadger Місяць тому +13

    Imagine buying a $2000+ card, being unhappy enough with the temps etc that you take it apart to Kryosheet it, then you damage it in a way that's unrepairable on the original PCB.
    I've done full disassembly & installation of a HydroCopper block on a 3090 before (which was worth way more than $2k at the time cuz it was during the mining bubble) and I managed to do that, with it being my first time doing a block install myself, and did it perfectly enough that my temperatures were great & the card was happy the entire time I had it. Ran it up to ~700W draw on the 1000W BIOS with a pretty hefty OC & voltage increase for benchmarking, but daily I ran it in the stock wattage realm with a decent OC on stock voltage, never had any issues and it never saw 60C again once that block was on it unless I was pushing 650+W through it.

    • @killerrf
      @killerrf Місяць тому +7

      Sh$t happens. No one is as perfect as some others apparently are… if he bought and took apart a $2000 card you will be well aware of the issues of disassembly and reassembly.

    • @illyaeater
      @illyaeater Місяць тому +1

      do u get a lot of performance out of oc, like for games? I do ml workloads and even if I downvolt the core and downclock the memory I barely lose any performance in it

    • @LOLHoneybadger
      @LOLHoneybadger Місяць тому

      @@illyaeater on the 3090? it was notable but not huge gains, I ran it undervolt-OCed regularly, slightly undervolted with a significant OC over the stock Kingpin speeds (I forgot to mention it was a 3090 Kingpin I think).
      On the 4090 I have now actually OCing it is not worth it at all, I run 1025mV (which is an undervolt) at around 2810MHz or 950mV at ~2700MHz and the difference is negligible. I ran some Stable Diffusion stuff on it for a while with those settings, and the main thing on that was VRAM speed, so undervolting the GPU core made no noticeable difference in render times.

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 Місяць тому +3

      @@illyaeater OC is often for shits and giggles, only a few cards really show notable performance increases with OC without being outrageous in their power consumption. 20-series and 30-series showed pretty laughable gains for the power increases, while with the 6900XT I got roughly 10% more performance with 10% more power. Anything past 330W on it was basically wasted power and money. My 4080 is voltage limited and while I did go 3,000MHz+ just for the flex, the performance difference wasn't really worth the time of dialing in a stable OC.
      Honestly, at this point I often just undervolt and leave it like that. It runs cooler, it uses less power, and I cannot tell the difference in FPS.

    • @monkeypuppies444
      @monkeypuppies444 Місяць тому +2

      FYI this is my card that was repaired and i have disassembled dozens of gpu's before but this was the first one i messed up on and man, i wish it was on one of my cheaper older gpu's, safe to say im not gonna be doing this again to a card im daily driving in the future.

  • @ekspatriat
    @ekspatriat Місяць тому +4

    cryosheets need 4 corner extensions with small glue tabs. It's great in theory but a nightmare in practice.

    • @titan557
      @titan557 Місяць тому +5

      Roman (der8auer) just did a video on Juul 14, 2024 "Something is Wrong with our Video Editing Rig..." @ 13:40 mark. Roman stated that Thermal Grizzly is now including a small amount of KryoSheet Applicator Oil with each new KryoSheet to keep it in place.

  • @Hycotuss24
    @Hycotuss24 Місяць тому +5

    Have this same card and although it sucks for the owner I am glad to see it was user error and not the fault of the card itself. Worry enough about the 12vhp connector, didn't need the extra worry. Cool to see the teardown and awesome repair as usual.

  • @olivierwikina7533
    @olivierwikina7533 Місяць тому +8

    Proper Terminology is not underfill , but actually Corner staking , its purpose is to help with Shock/Vibe or CTE expansion breaking the BGA solder join. Sometimes it can be the same material as a full underfill, but a corner stake allows for a reworkable BGA.

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +18

      What ever the term is, it still makes its way under the core to a point of surrounding the balls.
      So lets agree that this is corner underfill at the very least ?

  • @rustler08
    @rustler08 Місяць тому +11

    The problem with thermal paste is that it pushes out, not that it necessarily goes bad. It will eventually dry up, but pump out is usually a bigger enemy over a much shorter period of time.
    That's why PTM7950 is so popular.

    • @Desalater2
      @Desalater2 Місяць тому

      i use it on my cpu even tho its not great for it just cause i cba repasting :D

    • @bismuth7730
      @bismuth7730 Місяць тому

      @@Desalater2 PTM7950 rivals best thermal pastes out there, what do you mean its not great??

    • @agenttassadar7272
      @agenttassadar7272 Місяць тому

      I tried a Kyrosheet on my laptop and wasn't satisfied with the results switched to PTM7950 and have never looked back, all my systems now use PTM7950.

    • @Desalater2
      @Desalater2 Місяць тому

      @@bismuth7730 when i got it i did some benches before with paste then applied the ptm and ran again and it was a few c higher but im using a 7800x3d which doesnt get hot in the usual way so im an edge case :P i just cba with repasting more than yearly at most

    • @Adenser
      @Adenser Місяць тому

      One issue with the PTM/kyrosheet is that they work well on high temps (60+) since this is when they are changing the phases.
      I don't know if there is a reason to put it on something like this with AIO, since the temps will never reach the optimal spot for it to work well (correct me if im wrong)
      I have (probably fake) PTM on my 3080, I saw 90c hot spot on gelid paste after 5-6 months and decided to invest into that thing, so far so good, 82c hot spot with 340W at .950v 2025mhz

  • @simonschmid85
    @simonschmid85 12 днів тому

    I'm a proud owner of one of this card and after thermal paste and pads change it rocks😅

  • @user-rt3mg2ij3t
    @user-rt3mg2ij3t 26 днів тому +1

    Man with no haters

  • @napoficial7123
    @napoficial7123 Місяць тому +1

    Yes! Another Reballing episode ❤️🙌

  • @paranoiia8
    @paranoiia8 Місяць тому +2

    They have so much empty space, but still they often put components really close to mounting holes. I dont believe that it would be so hard during projecting and development to move everything away from them, like even 5mm would be nice so even if PCB crack inside track would be not so prone to crack.

    • @ariewijaya1679
      @ariewijaya1679 Місяць тому

      Its like the manufacture set a trap for careless users

  • @chadbarchus3373
    @chadbarchus3373 Місяць тому

    Not sure how i got on your channel ....but totally intrigued ive watched alot of your videos , you have definitely perfected your skill and are probably one of the best ive watched on yt keep up good work man love your vids

  • @WeBuild4Life
    @WeBuild4Life Місяць тому +1

    I have this same card. Runs cool, very quiet, and does great in every game as well as AI stuff where the 24gb is useful.

  • @m8x425
    @m8x425 Місяць тому +2

    A bunch of youtubers, people on Reddit, and twitter are gushing over the Kryosheet. I tried one on a 7900xtx Red Devil and the temps are not that much better than the stock paste.

  • @kresttube
    @kresttube Місяць тому +1

    Amazing work👍👍👍💪💪💪

  • @hansregli8678
    @hansregli8678 14 днів тому

    Cryosheet placement: Just take a ruler and measure the distances from the top and left. No way you can misplace it.

  • @ziggybombers1563
    @ziggybombers1563 Місяць тому

    You’re like a guardian angel looking over our GPU shoulder making us all sleep safely at night 😇.

  • @iliakisv
    @iliakisv 20 днів тому

    Have same model. It's only 4090 that can fit in my computer case. Was curios that inside it, thanks to this video i know - my card have solid build without cost cutting.

  • @HeartlessVin
    @HeartlessVin Місяць тому +3

    That Honeywell is actually good, like liquid metal good.

    • @K31TH3R
      @K31TH3R Місяць тому

      No, unfortunately it is not like liquid metal good. But PTM7950 is better than any other non-conductive paste, and by a measurable margin, and for the vast majority it should be the only thing you should ever use on your GPU if you're opening it up. Liquid metal is hands down, without a doubt, the best performing TIM, but there is rarely a justification for most everyone actually using it, especially if you're clumsy or don't follow directions well.
      The reason people think PTM7950 can compete with liquid metal is because most people are using those TIMs on nVidia GPUs, but nVidia GPUs do not have very accurate TJ sensors. If you compare liquid metal to PTM7950 on a Radeon GPU, which have more and much more accurate TJ sensors, you will usually see liquid metal outperform PTM7950 by ~6-8C TJ on air cooling, and upwards of ~10-15C TJ on water cooling.

  • @custume
    @custume Місяць тому +6

    36:26 don't want to give you bad news but according with Roman (der8auer), if you use a sheet and then you have to remove it or by miss place or ever the sheet will not work so good (it can lose 20% to 30% efficient).

    • @custume
      @custume Місяць тому +1

      I actually don't like it, prefer kryonaut

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +13

      Thats bad news for the customer, not for me.
      I'd never use this garbage even if it was brand new.

    • @custume
      @custume Місяць тому

      @@northwestrepair yeah, not a fan too, sure it can be use for some stuff but don't like it

    • @RngmonsterX
      @RngmonsterX Місяць тому +1

      @@northwestrepair same. It's only a 10/10 for CPUs or laptops tho. For GPU.. fuck, even MX4 is a good enough thermal paste.

  • @zippytechnologies
    @zippytechnologies Місяць тому +2

    I need 2 of these for the same atx build for my ai trianing for work project... on a budget... hard to find case and mb for an am5 chip with room enough for 2 gpu or more. Offloading the cooling to a rad is one way I think it might fit better...

  • @ds6972
    @ds6972 Місяць тому +1

    Nice work! I have the same GPU. I love it. I keep it in stock.

  • @mustangthearpy
    @mustangthearpy Місяць тому +7

    Those kryosheets are awesome. It has better heat transfer than the top name brands of thermal paste. I get the sheets that are a little bigger than the core and place it on top of the core. Then I use a small amount of tape to keep it place so you can mount the PCB and cooler together. For giggles, do testing on it Tony.
    Also, it appears the owner over-torque the x-clamp bolt causing the damage.

    • @PolskiJaszczomb
      @PolskiJaszczomb Місяць тому +7

      No, it does not. Its performance is below median of thermal pastes, it's just sad and extraordinarily sad, as PTM7950 and equivalents are of the same price.

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +7

      Somehow my cheap chinese paste i use on all GPU repairs pulls delta down to 8-10C instead of 15C even months down the road.

    • @0xe849
      @0xe849 Місяць тому +1

      @@northwestrepair I am not familiar with kryosheet, but for PTM7950 the higher temps makes the delta lower, because it has better thermal conductivity on higher temps, anyway the delta does not matter on low temps. In my POW you`re not right here :)

    • @userblame632
      @userblame632 Місяць тому

      @@PolskiJaszczomb While I agree that its performance is less than that of thermal pastes, kyrosheet does have an advantage over PTM. Ive installed both and now that kyrosheet comes with an oil to make it stick to the surface (even allowing you to stick it to vertical surfaces) kyrosheet is infinitely easier to install than PTM. Ive installed PTM twice now and each time its a massive pain in the ass to apply. Everytime I use PTM I get a chunk that theoretically should be able to cover 4x the area of the cpu/gpu/whatever but end up with a single use out of it, all due to it ripping. I did do the fridge trick too, I cant imagine how anyone would apply it without it. I found that kyrosheet could be reused without any major temp differences too, so it potentially could be cheaper.
      Personally ill stick to ptm cause better temps even if its a pita but I wouldnt call kyrosheet "extraordinarily sad" lol.

    • @userblame632
      @userblame632 Місяць тому +1

      @@northwestrepair probably luxury compared to what gpu manufacturers use LOL. im only kinda joking though I think there was thing with some AIBs using trash thermal pastes unfortunately.

  • @supernova874
    @supernova874 Місяць тому

    For CPU and specific builds is good , for gpu i would prefer one good thermal paste too ,easier to keep where you need it

  • @bmwlovergaming
    @bmwlovergaming Місяць тому

    I got of this, works well and quietly. Thats most important to me. Hot free system

  • @xitywampas
    @xitywampas Місяць тому +1

    I tried the Kryosheet on my CPU and GPU. It changed the mounting distances on the GPU block and it would be easy to do what I saw on this card because it doesn't let the indexing pins/screw holes bottom out properly. Get it askew and I bet that could happen. I thought about shimming it with nylon washers and getting thicker pads but the pads were plenty thick. It just bothered me that it would make a gap between the backplate and acrylic. I just threw some Kryonaut Extreme (the pink stuff) on there and it's the knees bees. I want to shunt mod it but I'm scared to do that now. I have an ASUS 7900xtx. I can't even get the memory over 60c overclocked.

  • @jritechnology
    @jritechnology Місяць тому +86

    Owner doesn't deserve this GPU....please refund him and send him a 2080.

    • @scottsmall9898
      @scottsmall9898 Місяць тому +25

      Nothing wrong with a 2080 maybe send him a 560 TI don't let an idiot destroy a 2080.

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +33

      LOL you are killing me

    • @JohnChrysostom101
      @JohnChrysostom101 Місяць тому +2

      Haha!

    • @barbarianzg8826
      @barbarianzg8826 Місяць тому

      send 2080 to me and i'll send back something hi end760 Tino need for any paste

    • @ranjitmandal1612
      @ranjitmandal1612 Місяць тому

      Definitely 😞

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen Місяць тому +1

    Those stripped boards are interesting, I wonder how they've done some of that damage as well. I guess given the mess they've made that they're working through these quickly. Weird how they'd be harvesting from such an expensive model of 4090 though, this Suprim watercooled model is not cheap and you'd think if the only goal was to get cores/memory to transplant to another board you would just be purchasing the cheapest 4090's available.

  • @ReefMimic
    @ReefMimic Місяць тому +1

    I tried using that kryo sheet for a month on my gpu. Definitely had higher temps and I switched back to paste.

  • @AlmightyGTR
    @AlmightyGTR Місяць тому

    Bare die applications of thermal paste pump out, because of a bigger expansion coefficient difference between die and cold plate. This means that GPU bare die, is where you need an interface material resistant to Pump Out, which is where kryosheet or PTM are positioned. Yes they are tough to apply, but they are the only materials that would last.Thermal pastes need to be reapplied every few months in a bare die scenario because of this issue.

  • @vasudevmenon2496
    @vasudevmenon2496 Місяць тому

    It seems like the screw was forced through the hole hoping the misalignment will be fixed.
    Kryosheet is alright. I used carbonaut on laptop and usually cut it 1mm short to fit inside the CPU or GPU core and align the heatsink to see if it's flush and not moving if the heatsink has lower pressure. Then i apply black insulation tape around the core to prevent shorts just to be safe since laptop or mini pc will be moving around. The phase change is good alternative but still leaves behind residue.
    Edit: I think the sheet is 1-2mm bigger and it will slip out during shipping unless there is some adhesive or thermal paste underneath. I usually adjust the sizing on core directly. I did see sharp edges of core cuts the sheet sometimes and fall on SMD. Then again i think heatsink is very slightly warped on the left pushing the sheet to the right when flipping over.

  • @aspidxt4600
    @aspidxt4600 Місяць тому

    where is those cool music backgrounds?) I loved them so much) repair is awesome as usual though))

  • @JasonMendoza-hd3ce
    @JasonMendoza-hd3ce Місяць тому +7

    Asus ROG Matrix Platinum is the best performing 4090, it uses liquid metal and is $3200

    • @RAMPED
      @RAMPED Місяць тому +3

      Nooo can't be! Surely a Zotac budget model is! Like mentioned in the video! /s

    • @LifeStartsAtrpm-ru1xo
      @LifeStartsAtrpm-ru1xo Місяць тому +1

      The liquid metal causes oxidation, so after that it’s the worst performing 4090.

    • @monkeypuppies444
      @monkeypuppies444 Місяць тому +1

      its actually the HOF, the Matrix platinum is just a Strix with LM and a kinda crap AIO strapped to it, its nothing special.

    • @RAMPED
      @RAMPED Місяць тому +1

      @@monkeypuppies444 oh wow? How do the pcb's compare then?

    • @monkeypuppies444
      @monkeypuppies444 Місяць тому

      @@RAMPED to my knowledge nothing was changed with the pcb design.

  • @artyomexplains
    @artyomexplains Місяць тому +2

    Some background synthwave would be nice for the timelapse

  • @danielhulan3058
    @danielhulan3058 Місяць тому

    I've been waiting for this kind of repair.

  • @BenderTheOffender
    @BenderTheOffender Місяць тому +1

    Would be interesting to see the numbers, how many GPUs broke by themselves, and how many were destroyed by their owners, because they tried “improve” them.

  • @gerber8915
    @gerber8915 Місяць тому +2

    The kryosheet is performing better than my stock MSI Liquid Suprim X. My GPU temp shoots up to the 60s and the hot spot hovers at 80-83. I am VERY much considering making this mod to my card now that I see solid proof of improved temps.

  • @parintelebaiazid80
    @parintelebaiazid80 Місяць тому

    This proves that the customer isn't always right!

  • @Dazholmes96
    @Dazholmes96 Місяць тому

    Why are these videos relaxing 🤣🤣

  • @bornagain2641
    @bornagain2641 Місяць тому +1

    I buy the 50x50 sheets as well as the smd component sealer and then i use the over size to use little dabs of paste at edge of sheet around the gpu frame.
    Now on my Cpu 12900 i use the cpu frame mount from thermal Grizzly and the 50x50 pad i secure with small dots of paste on frame.

  • @TrickyNekro
    @TrickyNekro 22 дні тому

    So far from my soldering experience, I found out that the difference between melting and not melting the LEDs is probably going from 350C to 300C.
    Don't know if that's possible on that PCB, but if they are not connected to some heavy copper, it should be fine.

  • @AI_MicroSolder
    @AI_MicroSolder Місяць тому

    I watch every video you make. Being I've been a heavy equipment tech up ubove the arctic circle and after mastering the

  • @TrekCZ
    @TrekCZ Місяць тому

    If I recall correctly, there will be some liquid available for the kryosheet so you can "glue" it for application

  • @zMeul
    @zMeul Місяць тому

    When using kryosheet, put a drop of silicon oil to keep it in place
    Ronan said the new rev of the kryosheet will have it included in the package

  • @Nobbi832
    @Nobbi832 Місяць тому

    I use Kryosheet on my own 4090 and im happy with it, but i can give you the advice to cover the surroundings of the core. These Cryosheets are conductive.

  • @kulilin3104
    @kulilin3104 Місяць тому

    A recent study by Igor's Lab has discovered that with this gen of Nvidia cards, the main manufacturers have been using some really bad thermal paste on the core from factory. The stuff is prone to pumping out completely within 6 months. Even my 7900 xtx temps on hotspot increased 15C within the year I owned it. So it seems to not just be limited to Nvidia GPUs. The Nvidia FE cards use PTM7950 from factory, so they are an exception to the issue.

  • @brnmcc01
    @brnmcc01 Місяць тому +1

    Nice repair, I like the MSI Suprim's. That Timespy score at the end wasn't very impressive, I just ran it on my Evga 3070 FTW 3 Ultra just for fun, I got 12,616 Timespy score, and 14,053 graphics score; the MSI 4090 here got a little over 18750, I would have thought a high end 4090 would be a lot better than a 3070 non-ti. For what it's worth, I got almost 8000 on the CPU score, but I get it, it's just a test rig with a low cost motherboard and CPU probably. I doubt you need fast ram, and CPU just to test GPU repairs, just to see if we get a picture.

    • @lemagreengreen
      @lemagreengreen Місяць тому +1

      It's running at PCI-E 3.0 which might explain that but... maybe not, I might be missing something. It's probably just a configuration thing, a 4090 should be scoring a lot higher you are right.

  • @GLHerzberg
    @GLHerzberg 25 днів тому

    R370 is a 1kΩ, R215 is a 10kΩ according to your board diagram. Order of magnitude difference.

  • @Fuscao_Preto
    @Fuscao_Preto 26 днів тому +1

    I changed my EVGA FTW3 1070 the day it got out of warranty, the difference? I knew what I was doing and dropped the temps from ~80°C to low 60's. Never touched it again and it is still not getting higher than mid 60's

  • @misterhoudi2824
    @misterhoudi2824 Місяць тому +2

    4:08, can we populate all the regular gaming gpu phases since both boards are almost identical? Or would that cause problems?? Would it be beneficial?

  • @coladict
    @coladict Місяць тому

    22:50 there seems to be another ripped component on the opposite side of the chip. Lower left corner of the video. Card seems to work, but that could cause some smaller issue.

  • @Channel-qr5mh
    @Channel-qr5mh Місяць тому +1

    Can you also make a video on how to remove modern phone screen's broken front glass, I broke whole LCD because it's so thin and fragile.

  • @0867532
    @0867532 Місяць тому

    39:57 One of the thermal interfaces ever made

  • @GameNest
    @GameNest Місяць тому

    Incredible repair job. I guess the client wrecked the card when trying to install the cryo sheet on an already well cooled card. I would advise him against using this, as like u said, thermal paste is better for gpus.

  • @allanwilmath8226
    @allanwilmath8226 Місяць тому +1

    Actually sir I think your wrong. Yes that is a mounting hole however the idea with the metal spring plate is to shift the application of the mounting force from the circuit board at the hole to the back of the PCB where it will be applied to GPU die instead of bending the PCB.
    Interestingly I ran in to this dilemma installing a water water block on my GPU because I kind of wanted to use the original metal spring and thus the high tension but decided to trust Alphacool engineering and make use of the Alphacool backplate instead. Alphacool just gives you 4 screws with foam washers so that all of the force is applied on those holes.
    In practice since the other 3 holes and additional screws would locate the PCB you should be able to get away with using the original PCB.

    • @volentimeh
      @volentimeh Місяць тому +2

      Doesn't matter, you still have a lot of clamping/crushing force being applied directly to the repair site, I wouldn't trust any epoxy to handle that long term without deforming and breaking or shorting the (many) tiny repair wires.

  • @FireyFly
    @FireyFly Місяць тому

    I'd say either the screw was deformed, or what most likely happened is that he pulled on the screw either way too strong or it wasn't yet unscrewn completely, and he pulled on it hard.

  • @LuciaGTAVI665
    @LuciaGTAVI665 Місяць тому

    Literally found out why my 6750 XT would have turbine fans from 0rpm to 100% last 2 months. Turns out i was literally gaming with 110C hotspot temps. Had similar reaction to 33:28

  • @pashkairy
    @pashkairy Місяць тому

    Не знал что есть и большой канал, подписался и сюда)

  • @G4M3RGU1D3
    @G4M3RGU1D3 Місяць тому

    first thing I did when I got my 4090 is to get a sag to support it then I undervolted it right up cause when not the max 450W triggers all the time, always on the cutoff like it wants to draw more power so bad.

  • @fabrb26
    @fabrb26 24 дні тому

    That's nice to know for the grand total 6 owners of that card

  • @davidhines7592
    @davidhines7592 Місяць тому

    thing about cryosheet is you never have to 'resheet' unlike thermal paste. if the card or cpu doesnt break you never need the heatsink off again until the chip does die.

    • @davidhines7592
      @davidhines7592 Місяць тому

      also, der Bauer says the kyrosheet has got some of the oil in thermal compound so you can use a drop to hold the sheet in place while reinstalling heatsink etc.

  • @scambio_termico
    @scambio_termico Місяць тому

    I suggest the owner of the board to use the Honeywell Ptm7950, instead of the Thermal Grizzly Kryosheet ... the PTM is slightly more performing and also is not electrically conductive ... finally, to avoid opening the board for maintenance, I suggest using Upsiren's UTP-8 thermal putty on the VRM and VRAM, instead of the classic silicone thermal conductive pads ... Both of these interfaces have a lifespan of more than 5 years

  • @ariewijaya1679
    @ariewijaya1679 Місяць тому +8

    Why they lay buried traces near screw hole

    • @northwestrepair
      @northwestrepair  Місяць тому +2

      no idea, they do that all the time

    • @zetsubou3704
      @zetsubou3704 Місяць тому +3

      To screw you, the customer of course 🤣

    • @tourmaline07
      @tourmaline07 Місяць тому

      Also quite convenient they have traces near the PCIe slot too

  • @FightingFalcon1980
    @FightingFalcon1980 Місяць тому

    Just use a few drops of isoproply alcohol so the sheet sticks to the core while mounting the cooler.

  • @darkkingastos4369
    @darkkingastos4369 Місяць тому +2

    Cryo sheets are only supposed to be used once I do believe. They last a long time but aren't supposed to be taken off repeatedly

  • @Crazyneo2917
    @Crazyneo2917 4 дні тому

    Great job. That's a huge leap of faith project. The whole thing would have cost 70% the value of a new card? Otherwise, how is it worth it for you as a business?

  • @philrdaly
    @philrdaly Місяць тому

    Been using PTM 7950 on my watercooled 4090 for a year and at 450 watt load the core/hotspot delta is right at 10C and the temps have remained consistent. I got tired of repasting every 6 months and will never go back now. Nice job on the repair though!

    • @deanx0r
      @deanx0r Місяць тому +1

      Every 6 months?
      Got a 1080Ti since 2017. Still got the same temperatures, and I repasted it not even once.

  • @DannyKaae-sd4is
    @DannyKaae-sd4is Місяць тому

    Im using cryosheet and im going to keep using cryosheets because they work better than thermal paste.

  • @beanbag8020
    @beanbag8020 Місяць тому

    The Asus Strix Matrix 4090 is probably the fastest one.

  • @Kapono5150
    @Kapono5150 Місяць тому +1

    This customer really needs to be more careful

  • @hacksolot2
    @hacksolot2 Місяць тому +1

    I'm in the market for a hot air station, does that cheapo one with the blower built into the handle work well for you?

  • @samuelkdu
    @samuelkdu Місяць тому

    never had to open a card to clean / change anything and ive had a 780, 980 , 980ti 1080, 1080ti, 2080ti, 3090, and a 4090

  • @MsHaiducu
    @MsHaiducu 27 днів тому

    I remember someone saying this to me. Stupidity is rarely cured,but it can be billed. He should have just been a bit more gentle

  • @flyingskull
    @flyingskull Місяць тому

    that printer in the background :D

  • @BC-fy1wn
    @BC-fy1wn Місяць тому

    Very nice work and great troubleshooting! Doc BC

  • @leenux2k
    @leenux2k 15 днів тому

    got the same card and i'm super happy with it, but seeing this hurts ...

  • @seanwood5443
    @seanwood5443 Місяць тому +3

    what program do u use to read where all the parts go on gpus boardviewer???

  • @TheRepairMan-yj3zp
    @TheRepairMan-yj3zp Місяць тому +2

    another card saved!

  • @BrianG61UK
    @BrianG61UK Місяць тому

    Isn't Kryosheet a soft PTM sheet, 0.2mm thick? It looked to me like some protective layer or layers were not removed before assembly!

  • @Mr.Bluemask
    @Mr.Bluemask Місяць тому

    I have this exact model card because it was the slimmest and cheapest 4090 I could get at the time. To think someone could break it like this. 😢

  • @David-tm4yj
    @David-tm4yj Місяць тому

    KP-X or Kryonaut Extreme would be much better, great vid as always. Keep up the good work🙂

    • @K31TH3R
      @K31TH3R Місяць тому

      Unfortunately they would be better for about 6 months, and then they wouldn't be, and you'll be repasting. Both KP-X and Kryonaut (and Noctua NT-H2, and most of the other chart topping highest performance non-conductive TIMs) have severe pump out and migration issues, so they are not the pastes you want to use for anything other than temporary open air test bench setups and for sub-ambient cooling.
      Those pastes are great on a CPU IHS, but for GPU dies, just use PTM7950. Nothing else non-conductive keeps up with it, and you'll never need to reapply it. For those who aren't clumsy and can follow directions (which excludes most people), liquid metal is an even better option than PTM7950.

  • @uursbncu
    @uursbncu Місяць тому +1

    I am currently using this gpu. And as I started watching the video, I was worried at first (this model has a chronic problem?) . But when I continued later, like John Travolta looking around Pulp Fiction movie, I asked to him, WHY? Why did you get into trouble for no reason? 🤦
    Edit: der8auer said that something like an application cream / thermal paste will be sent with the kryosheet so that it could be applied easily and would not move from where it was placed, but I guess it did not come out of this.