This is a really good vid. What coastoons should be. I'd like to add on a few things I've personally heard on why steel curtain is a mess, and hopefully clear a few things up if possible. 1. Structure So I know you stated in your video that the track is the same exact type as on maxx force, and while they may look similar, this is actually incorrect. Look closer at maxx force and steel curtains track, look at the crossties specifically and you'll see that maxx force has evenly spaced crossties throughout the layout while steel curtain has HUGE gaps between crossties at some points. This is called minimization, it's a practice normally done to make structures cheaper, using whats more or less needed. Usually for roller coasters this means that track ties are still an even distance apart, but as you'll notice on steel curtain this was done to an extreme never before seen on a roller coaster. This leads to the next problem. 2. Resonance frequency When the train runs through the layout of steel curtain, curtain regularly is hitting it's resonance frequency. Ever watch a video on buildings during an earthquake and what happens when the structure hits it's resonance frequency? It falls apart. Curtain is hitting that frequency, and it's causing cracks. I believe the track is to blame for this, but it can be fixed by adding just a few lateral braces and replacing the bolts for a stronger metal. However, this would be a lengthy process and is what I believe kennywood will attempt to do to fix curtains structural issues. But that's not even the main cause for downtime, the next part is. 3. The lift motor Apparently kennywood cheaped out and bought a motor too weak for curtain. That's literally all there is to say. S&S reccomended they purchase a motor then kennywood just bought a weaker one. I have no clue what else to say other than how stupid can you get. Apparently it overheats then it breaks down, that's the main cause of downtime. The programming is apparently very good and curtain has very few sensors compared to most coasters, and considering curtain doesn't have any collapsible brakes that only leaves sensors for the drive tires and lift. So basically this whole thing is on palace entertainment. They found S&S's proposal to be exciting, asked for it to be cheaper, then when S&S provided them with the cheap version, they asked "that's nice, but could it be even cheaper?" and now we have the mess that is steel curtain.
That’s a pretty good analogy for this. Like I said, I’m not a structural engineer so I wouldn’t know 100% what’s going on with the structure, but your theory does support the fact Steel Curtain is are wearing out too fast. As for the lift motor, that’s actually the first time I heard anyone mention that. But that is something I can believe since Palace isn’t exactly one to go above and beyond.
Greatest part I left out on accident. They actually invited multiple companies to bid on the project, B&M being one of them. From what I was told, B&M ghosted them, which is the single funniest thing to come out of this. As for the mack 10 inversion I've never actually heard of that proposal. The only ones I've been told was the topper track, and another variant of wooden coaster. The other variant IDK who would have built it, but it would have been the longest wooden coaster on earth and was the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life.
They make great coasters but They really need to get help form other Coaster manufacturers like Intamin, or vekoma to burrow thier dence supports and make the track dence or no one will buy , worst of all Six Flags Magic Mountain would have to remove X2 due to the fact Arrow Dynamics are no longer in business which makes S&S the only manufacturer that makes 4rth Dimension Coasters without. They need S&S to help turns things around for them to redesign the trains because there were complaints about the center part of each trains that there rough.
This is the kind of coaster shitposting I was looking for. Loved the shitty 8th grade theater group. Or [insert your language class here] people reading aloud for some fucking reason. 5/7 edit: also why the fuck am I watching this, I am from Europe, odds are by the time I make it to the US this has been disassembled.
Tbh they make outstanding rides, reliability can be a bitch though. Maxx Force at my home park did have issues on opening year. But it has gotten better with its growing pains.
If it’s under supported how could this not be properly calculated during the drawing board
This is a really good vid. What coastoons should be. I'd like to add on a few things I've personally heard on why steel curtain is a mess, and hopefully clear a few things up if possible.
1. Structure
So I know you stated in your video that the track is the same exact type as on maxx force, and while they may look similar, this is actually incorrect. Look closer at maxx force and steel curtains track, look at the crossties specifically and you'll see that maxx force has evenly spaced crossties throughout the layout while steel curtain has HUGE gaps between crossties at some points. This is called minimization, it's a practice normally done to make structures cheaper, using whats more or less needed. Usually for roller coasters this means that track ties are still an even distance apart, but as you'll notice on steel curtain this was done to an extreme never before seen on a roller coaster. This leads to the next problem.
2. Resonance frequency
When the train runs through the layout of steel curtain, curtain regularly is hitting it's resonance frequency. Ever watch a video on buildings during an earthquake and what happens when the structure hits it's resonance frequency? It falls apart. Curtain is hitting that frequency, and it's causing cracks. I believe the track is to blame for this, but it can be fixed by adding just a few lateral braces and replacing the bolts for a stronger metal. However, this would be a lengthy process and is what I believe kennywood will attempt to do to fix curtains structural issues. But that's not even the main cause for downtime, the next part is.
3. The lift motor
Apparently kennywood cheaped out and bought a motor too weak for curtain. That's literally all there is to say. S&S reccomended they purchase a motor then kennywood just bought a weaker one. I have no clue what else to say other than how stupid can you get. Apparently it overheats then it breaks down, that's the main cause of downtime. The programming is apparently very good and curtain has very few sensors compared to most coasters, and considering curtain doesn't have any collapsible brakes that only leaves sensors for the drive tires and lift.
So basically this whole thing is on palace entertainment. They found S&S's proposal to be exciting, asked for it to be cheaper, then when S&S provided them with the cheap version, they asked "that's nice, but could it be even cheaper?" and now we have the mess that is steel curtain.
That’s a pretty good analogy for this. Like I said, I’m not a structural engineer so I wouldn’t know 100% what’s going on with the structure, but your theory does support the fact Steel Curtain is are wearing out too fast. As for the lift motor, that’s actually the first time I heard anyone mention that. But that is something I can believe since Palace isn’t exactly one to go above and beyond.
Greatest part I left out on accident. They actually invited multiple companies to bid on the project, B&M being one of them. From what I was told, B&M ghosted them, which is the single funniest thing to come out of this.
As for the mack 10 inversion I've never actually heard of that proposal. The only ones I've been told was the topper track, and another variant of wooden coaster. The other variant IDK who would have built it, but it would have been the longest wooden coaster on earth and was the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life.
The structure looks like a child made it. I bet there are supports there that hold up the entire ride, and other supports that bear no weight at all.
14:57 say that to Carowinds when fury was running three trains yet when I reached the final breaks they were still loading the train in the station 💀
in 2022 curtain ran consistently with two trains and little down time
I could watch this video all day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not all of our super bowls were in the 70s, we had 2 in the 2000s as well
It’s a Steelers themed ride . That’s why it’s a broken pos lol.
Correction:
Pittsburgh won 4 Super Bowls in the 70s and the latter two were later won in the 2000s
I got sick of watching, did it ever say why it’s always going down?
It's still more reliable than a cybertruck which i suppose is not much to shout about
They make great coasters but They really need to get help form other Coaster manufacturers like Intamin, or vekoma to burrow thier dence supports and make the track dence or no one will buy , worst of all Six Flags Magic Mountain would have to remove X2 due to the fact Arrow Dynamics are no longer in business which makes S&S the only manufacturer that makes 4rth Dimension Coasters without. They need S&S to help turns things around for them to redesign the trains because there were complaints about the center part of each trains that there rough.
This is the kind of coaster shitposting I was looking for. Loved the shitty 8th grade theater group. Or [insert your language class here] people reading aloud for some fucking reason. 5/7
edit: also why the fuck am I watching this, I am from Europe, odds are by the time I make it to the US this has been disassembled.
The word is "exacerbated", not "exasterbate". Now you know why they pay people good money to do voice-overs.
I think s&s makes shity rides
Tbh they make outstanding rides, reliability can be a bitch though.
Maxx Force at my home park did have issues on opening year. But it has gotten better with its growing pains.
@@tigerrocks503 true
Also S&S provides parts for existing Arrow coasters as they bought Arrow Dynamics assets after they went bankrupt