Your Internet is Too Fast

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  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  Місяць тому +59

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    • @one-more-gamer
      @one-more-gamer Місяць тому +3

      The how many chrome tabs can you open video is sooo old I thought it was new. Hh😅

    • @mrcookiefries2896
      @mrcookiefries2896 Місяць тому +3

      Why? So you can have another tax write off?

    • @friedtoaster00
      @friedtoaster00 Місяць тому +2

      skibidi toilet on my mind yeah. ohio sigma rizzler on the grind yeah

    • @pfoxhound
      @pfoxhound Місяць тому +2

      Torrent will benefit from it!

    • @GuitarListen
      @GuitarListen Місяць тому +2

      In Romania, soon(tm) we are gonna get 10Gigabit speed.
      (yes im bragging with our new useless speed)

  • @Eli-zb2yj
    @Eli-zb2yj Місяць тому +3929

    Linus: Your internet is too fast
    Me: Watch the video in 360p

    • @Assi_Kater
      @Assi_Kater Місяць тому +103

      What's that i am at 144p

    • @emanuel_orozco_rodriguez
      @emanuel_orozco_rodriguez Місяць тому +71

      ​@@Assi_Kater Sometimes is not your internet, but youtube leaving your resolution at 144p for no reason.
      Even with a slow internet 440p should be doable.

    • @alijoxxx
      @alijoxxx Місяць тому +25

      What is internet ?

    • @JusstDexx
      @JusstDexx Місяць тому +14

      Internet is so fast the video lowered in quality

    • @Renegade605
      @Renegade605 Місяць тому +41

      ​@@emanuel_orozco_rodriguezI hate UA-cam's "Auto" quality setting so much. I'll check and it's at 360p with several minutes buffered ahead. Manually switching to 720p or 1080p results in a hitch in playback less than 0.5 seconds. Surely it could have just buffered that right from the start.

  • @TheMasterMakarov
    @TheMasterMakarov Місяць тому +3011

    Was not ready for that big butts cut

    • @void3029
      @void3029 Місяць тому +27

      Me neither🗿

    • @_o__o_
      @_o__o_ Місяць тому +20

      i farted

    • @hardcopydk3001
      @hardcopydk3001 Місяць тому +5

      Yeah.. Insta PTSD

    • @manitoba-op4jx
      @manitoba-op4jx Місяць тому +1

      i laughed

    • @AgentAngus
      @AgentAngus Місяць тому +8

      Even after reading your comment first I was not prepared

  • @IvanBachynsky
    @IvanBachynsky Місяць тому +460

    I live in Ukraine and have a 1 gig optic internet in my condo that costs me around $8 monthly. No restrictions on connection speed, symmetrical channel, and great latency. One of the most significant upsides of going optic is that last winter, we had massive blackouts due to russian war, and the ONU terminal and my routers could be powered with a simple power bank so that I would have wifi even if the lights were out.

    • @uzziel2005
      @uzziel2005 Місяць тому +75

      Stay safe!

    • @mrofinUtortxoF
      @mrofinUtortxoF Місяць тому +12

      You may also use power banks as UPS for regular routers :)

    • @Solid_Snake88
      @Solid_Snake88 Місяць тому +33

      Glory to ukraine ! Even in hard times there is improvement in ukraine ❤️‍🩹 strenght to you

    • @FangMorrow
      @FangMorrow Місяць тому +55

      I have worse internet then a country in war 😮

    • @mongstyt9946
      @mongstyt9946 Місяць тому +8

      Take care, Sir

  • @murirokcs5518
    @murirokcs5518 Місяць тому +473

    Network engineer here 👏
    Well done on simplifying yet staying super accurate with the topic. Makes me proud to be an LTT fanboy haha. Good job guys & gals!

    • @laurensjvg
      @laurensjvg Місяць тому +14

      I have to disagree here. It makes sense for us network engineers, but for beginners which is the target audience for this video it is way too fast paced. And for some topics the video just asumes you know some pretty complicated details

    • @Unknown_Genius
      @Unknown_Genius Місяць тому +7

      @@laurensjvg I think he explained and illustrated it well enough.
      What I have to disagree upon is the "I'm a content creator and I need that upload speed" point tho. Because if you live alone and want to upload a video a 250k connection will most likely already upload faster than your stuff is being rendered - which at the end of the day allows for workflows that go like "Let me upload this while I render the other video" pretty easily. Then again it never hurts to upgrade to a 1gig connection if someone enjoys creating content as in a lot of areas (my country for an example) a 250k connection isn't that much cheaper than a 1gig connection - which is especially unfunny if it's being thrown in your face all day while you're limited to 250k either way or if you don't need that much speed but still have to pay close to the full price either way.

    • @murirokcs5518
      @murirokcs5518 Місяць тому +1

      @@laurensjvg I see your point. It feels simple, but it is difficult to put myself in the average consumer shoes . I get you .

    • @protowave
      @protowave Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Unknown_Geniuscontent creators don't only upload pre-recorded videos, they need fast and stable upstream for livestreaming. my 10Mbps upload is very unstable so i have to stream at 2.5Mbps 720p/30fps and it still has problems. upload absolutely counts for streaming.

    • @Unknown_Genius
      @Unknown_Genius Місяць тому

      @@protowave I mentioned that a 250k connection is enough and a 1gig isn't needed for that particular case. 10mbps up is a 50k connection (at least here), which is definitely too slow for streaming one way or the other.

  • @miku_lol.3950
    @miku_lol.3950 Місяць тому +4037

    I didn’t know 30 Mbps was too fast

    • @akashdevani1960
      @akashdevani1960 Місяць тому +323

      hah try 4

    • @acubley
      @acubley Місяць тому +410

      @@akashdevani1960 I was going to reply "try 20" but you lose the hardest. My sympathies.

    • @yevgeniykhakhaev9788
      @yevgeniykhakhaev9788 Місяць тому +78

      I hear ya.... my only options are 2 providers offering 25mbit, or 3 carriers offering 5g. And 5g doesn't work for shit in a fairly densely populated area. Especially since 5g home internet gets deprioritized in favor of mobile phones.

    • @circlehousePRO
      @circlehousePRO Місяць тому +12

      Go see if you're qualified for TMobile internet there's no reason to live with 30 anymore

    • @HamzaOmari1
      @HamzaOmari1 Місяць тому +8

      bruh it is fast ,

  • @pyroslev
    @pyroslev Місяць тому +421

    This was a very spot on and apt video. My parents are in a VERY rural area and the entire region just got fiber internet. They were shocked when I told them to do the 200 Mbps plan. They're not gaming and barely stream more than one thing at a time. They're still overpaying but I wanted them to have the headroom for the future and for when I visit with the kids. Four months in, they're more than happy with what they're paying for. (Plus, it let me install a wifi beam system to beam wifi out to my cabin a mile across the fields to my cabin on the neighboring land without them noticing.)

    • @johanneskurz7122
      @johanneskurz7122 Місяць тому +71

      You had me in the first half, I ain't gonna lie.

    • @soul0360
      @soul0360 Місяць тому +53

      What a guy/gal. Convincing your parents to get a bigger, more expensive connection, then they need. So that you can steal/leach off of it, without them knowing.
      What a wonderful child they've raised.
      I'm glad that you're proud of your self. Fingers crossed that they will also be, if they ever find out. And that you're own children don't turn out the same way.
      "What goes around...", I guess.

    • @Nelo390
      @Nelo390 Місяць тому +107

      @@soul0360Lol judging a family off of a single comment is cringe.

    • @shadow-wulf
      @shadow-wulf Місяць тому +77

      He talked to his parents down from what they were going to go for. Reading between the lines seems like they thought they needed to go full gigabit and he take them downwards, yes he did build some speed in for when the grand kids visit, the parents would surely help with entertaining them.
      Yes they also added the beaming but maybe what was meant was that they didn't feel a drop in their quality when he piggy backed their wifi, rather than them simply not knowing that he was doing it.
      When he says 4 months in they're happy with it, I'll take the positive side rather than aiming evil intent of their child.

    • @rodjacksonx
      @rodjacksonx Місяць тому +16

      @@soul0360 - Judgy McJudgeface making ASSumptions all over the place.

  • @AurrenTV
    @AurrenTV Місяць тому +31

    The biggest tip is to threaten your ISP with leaving.
    You can often pretty easily get down to

    • @rudysal1429
      @rudysal1429 8 днів тому

      The biggest problem with that is not having any actual alternative in many areas. Govt needs to step in and either build the infrastructure and have price caps

    • @blackguitargo
      @blackguitargo 6 днів тому

      Anyone WHO says that theirs is too slow, than hear me Out: 1. My are where i live doesnt have any possible 4g 3g or 5g, and my DSL Provider Providers me with 2Mbits down and 453kbit Upload, and they are treathening to shut IT down + IT costs 80€ per month

    • @thefpstester1293
      @thefpstester1293 4 дні тому

      That's cool and all but children starving in​ africa doesnt make me less hungry at lunchtime@@blackguitargo

  • @RichKuhlmeyer
    @RichKuhlmeyer Місяць тому +35

    As an isp technician this video is great. Sales teams are constantly convincing ppl to pay for a more expensive service you don't Ned especially the elderly who dont comprehend this
    Great video must watch
    Gonna start showing this to my customers

    • @Piela_Butter
      @Piela_Butter Місяць тому +6

      Right there with ya. Also all the customers complaining about how they aren’t getting what they are paying for with their 2.4Ghz WiFi adapter lol.

  • @valermo3471
    @valermo3471 Місяць тому +86

    "Your Internet is Too Fast"
    Me, living on German Countryside
    "No, I don't think it is :)"

    • @koenigderbloecke9112
      @koenigderbloecke9112 Місяць тому +6

      Same here. I see myself pretty lucky with my 100 MBits/s dsl speed.

    • @prnzssLuna
      @prnzssLuna Місяць тому

      @@koenigderbloecke9112same. probably for more money than the people with fiber are paying for 5x the speed too

    • @RoxasValentine
      @RoxasValentine Місяць тому +3

      @@koenigderbloecke9112 NEULAND JA

    • @DocRekd-fi2zk
      @DocRekd-fi2zk 18 днів тому

      @@koenigderbloecke9112 wait you have bandwidth in the 3 digits?

    • @blackguitargo
      @blackguitargo 6 днів тому

      Anyone WHO says that theirs is too slow, than hear me Out: 1. My are where i live doesnt have any possible 4g 3g or 5g, and my DSL Provider Providers me with 2Mbits down and 453kbit Upload, and they are treathening to shut IT down + IT costs 80€ per month

  • @Finkelfunk
    @Finkelfunk Місяць тому +590

    Our Professor for networking told a funny story in his lecture where he called his ISP to get some more IPs to use for his servers, and they tried selling him a bundle, to quote the customer rep:
    "This bundle includes a few addresses for different standards, IPv4, IPv5, IPv6, all in there"
    Needless to say he tried to hold back his laughter as much as he could.

    • @Frizzy9000
      @Frizzy9000 Місяць тому +112

      What?! No IPv8??? Madness

    • @Wavepush
      @Wavepush Місяць тому +107

      Gimme that IPv5G

    • @ClearGalaxies
      @ClearGalaxies Місяць тому +6

      Can someone explain why it was funny?

    • @WildRon
      @WildRon Місяць тому +93

      ​@@ClearGalaxiesCustomer rep guy was being funny by including IPv5 as a Standard. IPv5 wasn't adopted as a Standards and were replaced by IPv6 iirc

    • @ClearGalaxies
      @ClearGalaxies Місяць тому +1

      @@WildRon You lost me.

  • @MrA6060
    @MrA6060 Місяць тому +9

    I see it as another way.
    Here in italy 1gb fiber isn't that much more expensive than regular 100mbps copper. BUT by getting fiber whenever possible we contribute to the internet companies that we do want faster internet, so they see the statistics and they are pushed to lay more fiber and heck, even more copper because in cities sure, there's good enough internet, but you go outside of a city and not even 4g reaches, which is tragic. We NEED internet companies to see we want faster internet even if we don't use it all, because we want internet companies to expand the service to the whole country and not be in single cities.

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 Місяць тому +5

    I worked at ATT as a technician and I would often suggest to customers to get the half a gig or even a quarter of a gig plans if they only intended to use the WIFI just general Internet use. Even half a gig is more than enough for most families.

  • @ThePlayerOfGames
    @ThePlayerOfGames Місяць тому +327

    ISPs operate a cartel in my town. Every ISP offers ADSL 8mb to every household. But each ISP serves certain post codes with no overlap fast cable or fibre. They specifically make it so you can technically shop around but you can't specifically shop for fast internet, you only have one choice dependant upon where you live.

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire Місяць тому +51

      You can and should report them to your state's attorney general, what they're doing is illegal and you can stop it.

    • @LetrixAR
      @LetrixAR Місяць тому +77

      ​@Voltaic_Fire you assume that it's illegal where they live.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Місяць тому +17

      We just got fiber like 2 years ago (doesn't feel like it) but before all we had was 3mbps DSL (that often gave to .7-1.5mbps). Thing is CenturyLink only sold "High Speed internet. *If you don't get those speeds your SOL. So I had to pay 80$ a month for DSL that could only handle UA-cam at 360p. Big ISPs are a joke.

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire Місяць тому +18

      @@LetrixAR If it's the US, and it sounds like it is, then it is illegal. It is also illegal in the UK and Australia.

    • @nathanielhill8156
      @nathanielhill8156 Місяць тому +7

      That's honestly better than mine, they don't hide it, they are a monopoly. Back in the 50s, they were started as a regulated phone utility monopoly.

  • @carneousevil2650
    @carneousevil2650 Місяць тому +294

    "Your Internet is Too Fast"
    *laughs in Australian*

    • @suiyydesign2261
      @suiyydesign2261 Місяць тому +10

      FTTP here get 950mbs download

    • @chugs1984
      @chugs1984 Місяць тому +9

      I'm on 1gbps NBN service with Aussie broadband. I get 960mbps from Steam using a TPlink router with cat 5e cabling on a I7-7700k 4 core CPU. I don't get why you need a modern CPU to get steam throughput at 1gbps and above. I'm using stuff that came out 2016-2017 and it's just fine.
      In fact Steam, PSN, UA-cam and Akamai serve up at 1gbps with little problem.
      The only thing I'd agree with LTP is the fact that smart TV's, even Samsung 4k panels from 2020 were packed with 10mbps lan interfaces. Absolute pain in the ass to stream on the Lan to the TV at greater the 10mbps.
      Now that would be a video, some sort of box that I can stream to from my plex server and connect via HDMI to my TV

    • @Vincentoist
      @Vincentoist Місяць тому +34

      ​@chugs1984 brother it's not the consumer hardware that's the issue, it's the national network infrastructure
      You're just lucky to be in like the top 1% if you have near gigabit

    • @charlesjeffery9644
      @charlesjeffery9644 Місяць тому +26

      @@Vincentoist yeah people are like "what are you talking about i have gigabit" meanwhile they are one of like 9 dudes in the country with it, and everyone else is stuck with 25mbps.

    • @ESGymNo2
      @ESGymNo2 Місяць тому +7

      Laughs in NZ. We've had 1gb down for 3 years at 99nzd/month. Usually, get between 50MB to 75MB down without effecting the 2-3 other heavy users.

  • @sherodoppy938
    @sherodoppy938 Місяць тому +1

    This Video is so timely as I type my City is running fiber on my street and I am excited. I would ask if a Fiber Service no matter the speed has a more reliable up time and consistent speed them traditional Cable Highspeed. My biggest issue with the Local cable provider is I find the speeds are all over the place as more people in the surrounding area get home and start using the internet.

  • @deltonadoug
    @deltonadoug Місяць тому

    Interesting. You finally convinced me that what I had in the back of my mind. I have 1 gig ATT fire and I do spend a lot of time waiting and watching my internet usage it's just not that busy.

  • @johannesjandke12
    @johannesjandke12 Місяць тому +294

    I work for a large European ISP.
    Our "Gigabit" tariff (1.000Mbs UP/200Mbs DOWN) costs about 80€ in Germany whereas the same contract in Slovakia costs only 30€ and has 100 Mbs more upload speed.
    The reason for this is that Slovakia has had a well-developed fiber optic network for many years, while in more western parts of Europe (e.g. Germany) the old DSL (copper) network was maintained for years, which now has to be painstakingly and cost-intensively converted to fiber optics. The ISPs of course pass this price on to their customers.
    In my opinion, it is cheeky that symmetrical tariffs are only available for business customers, even though the connection is technically no different from a "normal" household connection. The limitation here is purely digital, simply because ISPs can afford it as they have the upper hand.

    • @TheOVERMUCH
      @TheOVERMUCH Місяць тому +7

      I dont know because I dont work for the ISP but doesnt it have to do with the income people have in those countries. The netto income in slovakia is almost halve of that of germany so 10 euros will probably the extra cost and the rest is just market price.

    • @xXxJakobxXx3
      @xXxJakobxXx3 Місяць тому

      Hi, my current provider only serves us 1000/50 through DOCSIS? What are you using to deliver 1000/200?

    • @reappermen
      @reappermen Місяць тому +3

      ​@@xXxJakobxXx3fibre obviously. Especialy as he mentioned Germany, where the TV Kabel connected households are in a very clear minority. For the vast majority its either DSL via the old phone lines, or fibre straight to the house.

    • @reappermen
      @reappermen Місяць тому +3

      To be slightly fair to the ISPs, while the fibre cable and Tech inside the house can handle symmetrical gigabit upload just fine, it does require additional capacity in both the local splitters and fibre nodes, which cost more to build and more to run via higher energy costs.
      The ISPs are far more scummy with their marketing BS for selling most people the gigabit down though, as maybe 1% of customers can even take advanatge of that, let alone benfit.

    • @Rushil69420
      @Rushil69420 Місяць тому +7

      Capitalists ruin everything lmao

  • @redthorne2836
    @redthorne2836 Місяць тому +173

    "Try the various ISPs" is such a foreign concept in much, if not most, of the US. Our choices are usually between 1 cable, 1 DSL, or 1 Satellite provider. Often, only two of those three. Although 5G internet services are becoming more popular in the larger metro areas.

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm Місяць тому +31

      Just remember how there's all that competition in the free market hey 😅

    • @agrisimfarming
      @agrisimfarming Місяць тому +9

      Try only one of those 3, welcome to my old kentucky home

    • @efad3215
      @efad3215 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@zyebormYes, exactly. See, capitalism on infrastructure works!!
      Wait, isn't that technically a monopoly?

    • @boat02
      @boat02 Місяць тому

      Yup, I have many choices but it really comes down to two choices in terms of who owns the network. Where I am, I can choose either a very high bandwidth ISP but has been plagued with high latency issues for the past year, or a very low bandwidth ISP that people have said would do better with latency. There is a third option, but that's Starlink so I'll skip that.
      I've been trying to rectify this with my ISP's frontline customer support. Unfortunately, their procedure happens to bounce me back and forth like volleyball. When they added a charge to my bill for a yet another unfruitful technician visit, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Luckily, in Canada, there's the CCTS, which an independent organization all ISPs must fund that mediate complaints. Did that at the beginning of the year, and after two more months, they finally got it fixed (for me).
      Anyway, I'm still very rusty with FPS gaming but that skill restoration is still in progress.

    • @mobmaniac
      @mobmaniac Місяць тому +4

      Latency is BRUTAL on 5G, even through Ethernet

  • @KennerMarqueti
    @KennerMarqueti Місяць тому +1

    I've side graded from a 240Mb/s coaxial with a lots of problems (would go down for a few minutes multiple times a week, sometimes I would spend weeks without being able to connect to a specific service and so on) to a 150Mb/s fiber to the home, sometimes when torrenting or downloading steam games I missed the extra speed, mostly in the beginning, but now I'm used to it and just the fact that it's being 2 years since I had to call the ISP for problems is so great, I haven't streamed anything with this connection but the times I streamed in the old connection I had a pretty bad experience.

  • @LostInArtMagic
    @LostInArtMagic Місяць тому +1

    Great timing on this vid, just got gigabit connected. Have already sacked off the ISP provided EERO routers and am using my own ASUS router along with a 3 hub mesh which delivers 300+ Mbit in every room. All the important stuff is wired with ethernet so I think and feel that I've done this right and am getting the best out of my new connection. Am loving how fast updates and cloud syncing is now and of course full game & software downloads are just astonishingly fast. Overall I feel that my internet is now on the same level as my gaming PC instead of the bottleneck it was a few days ago.

  • @Merk555
    @Merk555 Місяць тому +137

    Had rural internet for many years that averaged 1-3Mbps and sometimes went as low as 0.1Mb...recently got Fibre to home and have 1Gb/1Gb for $70...God I love it even though I don't need or use all that speed often

    • @SinclairLoves
      @SinclairLoves Місяць тому +4

      I’m getting 2gb/2gb next week through Conexon, I can’t wait

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv Місяць тому +4

      Same thing here. We are also wiring our entire house with CAT 6A cable

    • @MatterBaby68
      @MatterBaby68 Місяць тому

      starlink. it's like 120 a month tho ​@@SinclairLoves

    • @MRJMXHD
      @MRJMXHD Місяць тому +1

      That's amazing ​@@SinclairLoves

    • @dreamer7939
      @dreamer7939 Місяць тому

      70 dollars for 1 gbps is expensive

  • @anvecom
    @anvecom Місяць тому +355

    To me, the biggest benefit of fiber internet isn't how fast its maximum download speeds are, but that your upload speed tends to be just as fast as download speeds, and how insanely conistent and low-latency it is. Most content on the internet doesn't require enormous amounts of bandwidth to view (seems that 4K streaming caps out below 40 Mbps in some cases), but if there's something wonky interfering with your device's ability to send requests to websites or services (like having really high ping and/or low upload speeds, which does appear with cable-based internet, or for people in rural areas with DSL), stuff feels *sloow*. I don't view that it's all about raw speed, rather that eliminating bottlenecks or other problems that lead to inconsistency holds the most importance.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 Місяць тому +1

      Your thesis is that fast upload speeds decrease ping/jitter? I dunno, sounds plausible. Posting from Washington DC using Verizon FiOS where they have a fiber connection into the home (tho I did upgrade my router to make it faster after a few years using their now obsolete router).

    • @killingtimeitself
      @killingtimeitself Місяць тому

      its also a lot more reliable

    • @killingtimeitself
      @killingtimeitself Місяць тому +12

      @@raylopez99What? That's not what they said. The entire reason fiber to the home reduces latency and jitter is because there is less processing happening between you and your ISP, and in some cases, none.

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 Місяць тому +8

      @@raylopez99It does in a way. Most connections tend to experience a lot of problems with latency/jitter as upload reaches saturation. This is especially problematic with cable connections where they can absolutely skyrocket as upload gets maxed out. Using 10Mbps upload on a connection with 100Mbps upload capacity > using 10Mbps upload on a connection with 10Mbps upload capacity every time. Whether it's a legitimate maximum of the circuit tech that you're using or a throttle in place by your ISP (often accomplished by dropping packets to slow you down to keep you at/under the cap). Even on enterprise dedicated fiber at work we cap our interfaces just below the circuit capacity. E.g. if it's a 500/500 meg dedicated circuit we'll cap it at 490/490 meg to avoid the latency increase that occurs when we hit the actual 500 meg capacity.

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles Місяць тому +5

      Yeah when I had fiber that was the benefit for sure. I mean, fast game downloads and whatnot was great but the stable, bilateral connection was amazing for everything from games in-game and out, zip files that have a throttled speed otherwise, stability, mass data fetching... It was nice. I def could use something faster given what I'm paying now for something less than 1/10th the speed lol

  • @intyente9824
    @intyente9824 Місяць тому +1

    i subscribed just based off the fact your sponsor was put at the END of the video. How lovely, and yes i did watch the ad just to help you the same way you helped us

  • @Suzuki_Hiakura
    @Suzuki_Hiakura Місяць тому +1

    I remember being on a 5mb broadband connection; was the only thing available for the longest time, and I would have to download games a day or two in advance. Definitely don't miss it.

  • @medicalwei
    @medicalwei Місяць тому +35

    9:07 As a person who literally work on Linux ISOs, having a big (and stable !) bandwidth really helps

    • @pauljones9150
      @pauljones9150 Місяць тому +1

      That's pretty cool 😎😎😎

  • @teenylp745
    @teenylp745 Місяць тому +155

    Here in Switzerland the ISP which provides an 10Gbps Uplink is way cheaper than the ISP which provodes an 500mbps Uplink. The 10Gbps are 50$ cheaper a month. Thats just insane.

    • @brendanr1525
      @brendanr1525 Місяць тому +7

      Fifty dollars isn't written 50$. The dollar sign comes BEFORE the number.

    • @numitr0n291
      @numitr0n291 Місяць тому

      In Germany, and probably Switzerland as well, currency symbols are almost always placed after the number. We also use a comma instead of a period as our decimal separator. Thus, 19,99 € is how we would write €19.99. Just to explain to why someone whose native language isn't English might put the currency symbol after the actual number. @@brendanr1525

    • @srpenguinbr
      @srpenguinbr Місяць тому

      That's good to hear. It's just a bit sad that regular mobile providers have astronomical prices for a single MiB if someone crosses the border, so it gave me the impression you guys had under average speeds.

    • @AL5520
      @AL5520 Місяць тому +58

      ​@@brendanr1525 this is not only petty but also not true. Yes, most of the English speaking woorld tend to place the currency sign before the number but most others put it after. This is not gramatically incorrect nor is it important.

    • @kidkid
      @kidkid Місяць тому +11

      ​@@AL5520 It might not be grammatically wrong but it looks kinda stupid when everyone online writes it the same way. Not sure if it's worth writing a comment about tho. Btw you misspelled grammatically which is kinda ironic lol

  • @pritsky4219
    @pritsky4219 Місяць тому +2

    Before my area had fibre optic internet (we never had access to cable), I was able to play most online games on DSL until around 2018. Downloading a modern game would sometimes take three days, though.

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Місяць тому +2

    The routers Spectrum and Xfinity provide are actually really good for most non-techies. The access point hardware is great, the management software is awful. That is, unless you have Apple devices. Apple devices frequently disconnect from it, the issue has been known to Apple for nearly a year, but they don't seem to be in a hurry to fix it.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Місяць тому

      This is true for Cox as well on gigabit cable, the 'gateway' isn't a bottleneck which makes me not care enough to connect my possibly better modem/router (Netgear doc 3.1 and TP-Link AX3000), but the most concerning thing is lack of security updates. Not that retail modems and routers are much better with updates, but they at least seem more aware. I wasn't security-conscious before our home network was hacked from one of my parent's computers being compromised, and it was a nightmare far worse than I knew was possible.
      There's stuff out there way more capable and complex than security researchers will acknowledge for whatever reason, and I have even less faith in the OEM Technicolor gateway from the ISP than with a big retail brand. It DEFINITELY doesn't help that ISP equipment uses cracked or known admin credentials and/or default network credentials. Wireless in general is an even worse security disaster than the hardware and OS but most people don't know or care. A new unit shipping with updates that supposedly fix known vulnerabilities is like the only practical use case worth considering for most people IMO. Based name btw, my old main acc got banned a couple of years ago and I've been forced to completely hide my power level since to not risk losing all that data again. I recently upgraded my Laptop's wifi card from a shitty cheap AC card that maxxed out at 100mbps to an Intel AX210NGW for $20 from Amazon, and to my surprise it's a noticeable difference for UA-cam (especially 1440 and 4k on a 1080 display, because the new 1080 bitrate switch is noticeably awful) at 300mbps and somehow the signal is much stronger as well. I didn't really expect any difference, but most sites and video tabs load a lot faster and video playback is a lot better for unbuffered. Could be from the weak signal on my old card, could be the speed, dunno but it's a noticeable and significant improvement with far less annoyances and I didn't expect it. This is a basically high-end specced Dell 3793 built 4/20 and even though it's the i7 1065g7 and was expensive new, it still had the shittiest Wifi card they had because it's not a high-end model line.

    • @joshuatucker4128
      @joshuatucker4128 Місяць тому +1

      The big advantage of having a isp provided router is that if there is a problem they actually have to fix it rather than passing the buck to your router manufacturer. I worked for spectrum internet support and we were basically told to refer people to the manufacturer rather than fix the issue.

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Місяць тому

      @joshuatucker4128 In my experience, the problem is with Apple. I have a MacBook and an iPad that disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. Whereas I have several Lenovo and Samsung devices with no issue.

  • @m.junaidmahmood4209
    @m.junaidmahmood4209 Місяць тому +100

    There is also one thing missed, the ISP's own uplink/downlink is also shared and its usually planned at 40~50% of the capacity sold. Which means that at peak times if everyone is trying to get their files downloaded you will not get the advertised speed.

    • @jomapa2021
      @jomapa2021 Місяць тому +6

      Wasn't that only true with coax cable tho? I used to experience that back when coax was the standard, but once it was updated to fibre, now I have even more bandwidth than what I paid for, at any time of the day. (500mbps paid, get almost 600 on avg)

    • @idiocracy9530
      @idiocracy9530 Місяць тому +6

      Only places with shitty infrastructure does that. ISP's around here have to guarantee your speed. So even at peak hours, you get the bandwidth that you're paying for, all the time. I've had 1gbit for the past 15 years for ~40€ a month, it has always performed when asked to.
      I lived in Ireland for a year a long time ago, and that was the first time i ran into what you're talking about, and it was garbage. I do not know if they're still doing it that way, but i hope not. I think they called it contention ratio or something.

    • @Lukeb53
      @Lukeb53 Місяць тому +4

      That depends on what you're off plan you have. If you're plan is a "dedicated" plan you will get whatever speed you are paying for at any time. If it isn't dedicated then you're paying for an "up to" speed which sets a hard limit at your max, but could she down during high traffic times.

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 Місяць тому +1

      @@Lukeb53 The 'hard limit' isn't really so hard, even from crappy ISPs. You'll generally get speeds at least 20-30% faster than the advertised limit out of peak times. They tend to have enough bandwidth so that you get advertised 'up to' speeds most of the time... at least in large metropolitan areas with other ISPs to choose from.

    • @idiocracy9530
      @idiocracy9530 Місяць тому

      That is incorrect. A regular residental connection, if your connections slows down during peak hours. That is because the ISP isn't allocating enough bandwidth to that DSLAM.
      In the late 80's when ADSL was introduced, we got a 256/128 connection. But it was possible to get up to a 1mbit, but that was really expensive, like ~100€ a month.
      This pissed people off when they got home from work, wanting to use their expensive connection and then realize it was not working as advertised.
      The government agreed that if you were paying for 1mbit or any speed. You should also receive that regardless of what time of day it is. People can't change their working hours to accommodate the ISP's, the ISP's should accommodate the customer.
      ISP's know when the demand is highest, so they should adjust accordingly and make sure that bandwidth is available, so it became a law.
      Problem forever solved, everyone gets what they're paying for at all times and that has worked perfectly for +25 years.

  • @ffwast
    @ffwast Місяць тому +281

    I'm that guy getting by with the .25mbps connection most of the time. "too fast" is not a "problem" I have ever had in my life.

    • @boscorner
      @boscorner Місяць тому +14

      Damn that's even worse than me and I live where there's no street lights

    • @FarmerRiddick
      @FarmerRiddick Місяць тому

      I can dig it. I had no real option because of how remote I live which was DSL. Apparently, I'm the last property the repeater was able to barely connect to. I measured upload and downloads in Kps.
      As of about 4 months ago, I got Starlink. Tremendous difference!
      I turned on and played stuff on my Roku, Chromebook, desktop and both iPhones and ran stuff simultaneously ... IT WAS FUN! and still is 8)

    • @bolty4102
      @bolty4102 Місяць тому +9

      How the hell do you even live with that?

    • @chixinspace
      @chixinspace Місяць тому +2

      I'd say you missed the point of the video if you're saying this

    • @yurikz9
      @yurikz9 Місяць тому +1

      I mean, the video isn't about you then lol of course

  • @ricktifierful
    @ricktifierful Місяць тому +2

    What sucks is the criminality of the big 3, I'm in BC on the border to AB and Telus has fiber running along the main hwy but refuses to distribute because we are "rural". I'm stuck on DSL at 15 down 1 up. The worst part is getting marketing calls "we can give you faster net"
    "is it cellular?"
    "yes"
    Not a chance

    • @ayden8901
      @ayden8901 Місяць тому

      I've had neighbours across the street not able to get fibre despite them running a new drop when I moved. They can do it they just don't want to. It's insane

    • @goat9295
      @goat9295 Місяць тому

      Blame the corruption that we call "lobbying" for this. The big 3 are in control of everything.

  • @zelenyy1289
    @zelenyy1289 Місяць тому

    Great video! I live in Australia with a lightning fast 100mbps download speed and thats more than enough for 3 people streaming youtube concurrently. One thing you should have also talked about is how alot of "gaming" routers are absolutely overkill UNLESS you have a gigbit connection, yes the cheaper ones can slow down but you've only got 100mbps, it doesn't have to be very fast.

  • @whoathatcombo
    @whoathatcombo Місяць тому +852

    My internet is 10 mps

  • @Efreeti
    @Efreeti Місяць тому +82

    5:22 I caught that dubbed-in number. Good on you for not leaving errors in the recording and settling for a text correction on-screen.

  • @blodyholy_
    @blodyholy_ Місяць тому

    Love to see Gibson getting some well deserved love/shoutouts here.

  • @richardmillhousenixon
    @richardmillhousenixon 5 днів тому

    What I love about gigabit fiber is that I can be downloading at 100 megabytes and still have enough bandwidth for chatting in a full Discord channel and still leave enough for others on the house to do what they need to do

  • @StillConfusing
    @StillConfusing Місяць тому +628

    ended up spending less money going from 35mbps to 900mbps, which is so funny

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 Місяць тому +79

      I had a drop in cost going from 100/10 meg cable to 960/880 meg fiber when FiOS became available. I was paying $98 for the cable, which was scheduled to increase to $135 (before fees, so likely over $140) the following month, and the fiber was $80 all-in. In the 7 years since the fiber cost has gone up a whopping $4, while cable was increased at least $5-10/month every 6 months.

    • @monte0704
      @monte0704 Місяць тому

      I was paying Comcast $125/mo for gigabit. They remove download caps for their gigabit service.
      I was getting 900mbps down and only 50mbps upload.
      Moved to the new local fiber company who offered 2.5gbit.
      I now pay $120/mo for 2400 down and 2450 up.
      Even I know I don't need that.
      But apparently they lock me in for lifetime pricing, so hopefully it never changes? If I'm paying $120/mo for 2.5gbit in 10 years I'll be a happy boy.

    • @mickleman52
      @mickleman52 Місяць тому

      just be careful you didn't sign up for a teaser rate. I got an offer recently to "save $10 a month for faster internet", except after 12 months it would have essentially doubled. I also had my ISP once "upgrade" my service without asking or telling me from 30mbps to 100mbps. Fast forward to the teaser rate expiring and my internet went from about $50/mo. to over $100/mo. I tried to get them to down grade me to what I had before, except wouldn't you know it that plan was no longer offered. TL;DR Be wary of "deals" when it comes to ISPs

    • @reilysmith5187
      @reilysmith5187 Місяць тому +13

      Are you sure this wasnt a limited time only deal? Something where after 6 months the monthly costs double or even triple? I've seen that before.

    • @nilsekluund
      @nilsekluund Місяць тому +5

      That happened to me as well. Changed provider and went from 1 gigabit to 10 for less money.

  • @kiam9941
    @kiam9941 Місяць тому +145

    here in Italy it costs basically nothing to get more
    if you got ftth available
    you get 1GigDown/100Mbs(or300Mbs)
    costs like 25€/month
    if you are reached by also 10gigs/2gigs
    it costs 35€/month last time i checked
    WHICH IS INSANE LOOKING AT THE COSTS IN GERMANY AND SWITZERLAND

    • @TheYoutubeUser69
      @TheYoutubeUser69 Місяць тому +53

      literally all european countries but germany get showered in good internet, iots fucking annoying :D

    • @chrisparussin5359
      @chrisparussin5359 Місяць тому +5

      at my home there is no adsl or better :/. i pay 50€/month for 2 4G sims and i bond the two networks with pfsense

    • @Hlebuw3k
      @Hlebuw3k Місяць тому +3

      it costs around 5€/month for 100mb both ways where i live

    • @eveyn
      @eveyn Місяць тому +5

      Don't call out Switzerland here :) I also got a 10gbit/s connection for 35 CHF.
      1gbit/s you can easily get between 20-40chf depending on the provider and sale.

    • @lunahd24
      @lunahd24 Місяць тому +6

      I gotta say, here in germany, when you're using mobile data, you'll be happy to even reach some speed at some places (on the train tracks there's literally a few kilometers where you won't even get telephone connection). But at home it's fine but it's 75€ a month for fiber ;-; (1Gbps down, 500Mbps up)

  • @someones_here
    @someones_here Місяць тому

    That "my-book" transition is one of the smoothest I've seen, up their with the greats

  • @Joooooooooooosh
    @Joooooooooooosh 15 днів тому

    The obvious reason someone might need or want an absurdly high connection is multiple people watching TVs. Even in my house where I live alone with dogs, I sometimes forget I have 2 or 3 TVs left on in various rooms. But I get by with 100 Mbps just fine.

  • @jericho86
    @jericho86 Місяць тому +123

    LTT is on a role with these "times are hard" tech tips.

  • @PeakOfHumor
    @PeakOfHumor Місяць тому +149

    "Your internet is too fast"
    Me literally getting 5mbps: Yes.

    • @eddi3401
      @eddi3401 Місяць тому +1

      How

    • @PeakOfHumor
      @PeakOfHumor Місяць тому +10

      @@eddi3401 What how? My internet is just slow af.

    • @eagle-eyes777
      @eagle-eyes777 Місяць тому +7

      Don't worry, mine likes to hang around 152 kbps quite often :')

    • @PeakOfHumor
      @PeakOfHumor Місяць тому +6

      @@eagle-eyes777 I felt so sorry for you man :'(

    • @jannikmeissner
      @jannikmeissner Місяць тому +5

      German?

  • @pumpkinwastaken1881
    @pumpkinwastaken1881 21 день тому

    This video got me to save 20 a month!
    downgraded my internet plan and i see no difference at all. love it!

  • @ishvahkairav8498
    @ishvahkairav8498 Місяць тому +3

    This is my first year studying IT. They way Linus broke down considerations was so cool cause he was basically stating them in something called the OSI protocols that I had learnt in networking. There's 7 layers and when trouble shooting you start from the First Layer, the physical layer that is ethernet connections. And you work your way up the layers until you get to the last layer, The Application layers where he spoke about those servers being bottle necks. It was so cool being able to link these up with what i learnt. It felt cool. Networking is cool asf

  • @sojirou
    @sojirou Місяць тому +173

    Jumping to 10Gbps from 1Gbps (for only an extra $20 a month) wasn't really noticeable speed wise but the extra hardware cost sure was.

    • @AngryChineseWoman
      @AngryChineseWoman Місяць тому +9

      Out of curiosity, how fast is your dl speed when downloading off direct dl links ? And from Steam ? I have 2 Gb/s fiber which is already awesome but I'm wondering if 10Gb/s is worth the additional cost (I already have SSDs)

    • @CerealKiIIer
      @CerealKiIIer Місяць тому +25

      @@AngryChineseWoman I don't think your CPU would be able to follow. My R9 5900x get's hammered at 2.5gbps.

    • @AngryChineseWoman
      @AngryChineseWoman Місяць тому

      @@CerealKiIIer Damn... I have a 13700k and 2Gbps is fine... But more than this... I don't know yeah

    • @jeanbon6084
      @jeanbon6084 Місяць тому

      with $480 saved /2 years, I prefer to put my money somewhere else, a better GPU, screen or anything else, maybe not related to PC.

    • @brandonbennett2584
      @brandonbennett2584 Місяць тому +1

      My 3900xt doesn't even seem to notice 1.4gbps. Is it a linear thing or exponential because I'm shocked a 5900 would be hammerd at 2.5gb

  • @nightwishkid1
    @nightwishkid1 Місяць тому +11

    I was tech support for a major ISP and had someone call in, home with 10 people living in it, had ISP router. Had 65 devices connected, I told them to look for a MIMO router ours couldn't handle that lol

  • @XXConner
    @XXConner Місяць тому

    I love little explainer videos that tell me real-world facts about how things work in general. like a techquickie but less quick and more detail

  • @Schwabtastic
    @Schwabtastic Місяць тому +1

    That basslin at the end made me think of Davie504. I literally just downgraded my speeds to save some costs since my isp made some package changes and then this video showed up! Glad to see i made the right call lol

  • @oDTR
    @oDTR Місяць тому +798

    My internet is too slow

    • @squibblesisyes
      @squibblesisyes Місяць тому +11

      same bro

    • @bla_blak
      @bla_blak Місяць тому +7

      agreed

    • @_Rerr_
      @_Rerr_ Місяць тому +4

      me

    • @iamlorddems3859
      @iamlorddems3859 Місяць тому +7

      Yeah I've only managed to get like less than 20 megabytes a second while getting those Linux distros

    • @Kynatosh
      @Kynatosh Місяць тому

      ​@@iamlorddems3859 20 megabytes a second is a lot, that's like 160 Mbps+ !

  • @BeastChan23
    @BeastChan23 Місяць тому +24

    Went down this rabbit hole ages ago, I had gigabit without issues for a long time, then they bumped up speeds for the same price.
    Already had a system that supported 2.5GbE, ended up getting a new switch with a couple 2.5GbE ports, and SFP+ ports, eventually built my own router with a box from Aliexpress and OpenWRT.
    Wifi devices go through 1GbE link, but that's honestly fine for those devices, they're limited due to outside factors.
    While I could save money going down to lower speeds, it's not a huge amount of savings unless someone disrupts the duopoly in my neighborhood.
    Most demanding thing I use is probably hosting a few game servers, and downloading stuff

  • @ShooterQ
    @ShooterQ Місяць тому

    They're right... salespeople are out there right now, walking door to door on the street right now are trying to sell seniors and small families of smart phone users all levels of multigig lines.
    Reminds of that guy who had one of the first consumer 10Gb domestic lines, and was telling the news, "Yeah, my son would play a game while streaming music, my daughter would watch TV while video chatting, and my wife would put on a movie at the same time, and 1Gb just wasn't fast enough." Like, naw... no way man... numbers not adding up.

  • @wireproof
    @wireproof Місяць тому

    That Full House Face Swap on screen for 0.5 seconds got my thumbs up lmao nice work as usual LTT

  • @Jaie55
    @Jaie55 Місяць тому +43

    Here, in Spain, you can get 10Gbps for 30€, Router with WiFi 7 from TP-Link, pretty good router tbh, and they advertise to you, that you must use a Thunderbolt or 10Gb ports

    • @Jaie55
      @Jaie55 Місяць тому

      @@mattburg94 Here, a lote of ppl uses It, yeah, we don't take Advantage but its geat

    • @Jesus_friggin_christ
      @Jesus_friggin_christ Місяць тому +10

      @@mattburg94 it is a godsend for student housing which can have up to 20 or more people living on a single residential internet connection.

    • @WishMFWOULD
      @WishMFWOULD Місяць тому +6

      Here is canada, you can get 10mbp/s for $100 cad

    • @MeistroBurger
      @MeistroBurger Місяць тому

      Almost the same price in the Netherlands

  • @Greg1096
    @Greg1096 Місяць тому +34

    Brings me back to running my own IRC server many years ago, off of a regular residential cable internet connection, thought it was cool as hell but man was it ever slow once users started sharing files, which was pretty crazy since the server was specifically for South park and sharing episodes. Guess that even bringing up IRC kinda shows my age lol

    • @taldmd
      @taldmd Місяць тому +4

      how did file sharing between users hog your server or connection down? file sharing in IRC is done though DCCs, which are peer to peer and doesn't traverse the server itself.

    • @Messy_Marv
      @Messy_Marv Місяць тому

      Lulz

    • @michaelkreitzer1369
      @michaelkreitzer1369 Місяць тому

      ​@@taldmdbest benefit of the doubt I can give is maybe they also ran a local xdcc bot. I did that, and I had to limit concurrent downloads to 1 and queue the rest while throttling the bot.

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm Місяць тому

      ​@@taldmdperhaps they ran an additional file share? FTP or some such.

    • @Greg1096
      @Greg1096 Місяць тому +1

      @taldmd i should have clarified it wasnt the actual downloads that slowed it down, once there were file sharing bots setup the amount of users shot through the roof, went from maybe 20 peak users to a few hundred, really not sure if it was limitations of my connection or limitations of my computer, i think maybe i was asking a bit much from that old pentium2

  • @deejayxcrypt
    @deejayxcrypt Місяць тому +5

    What I've noticed is that, with old low-end devices, it is often the storage drives and local components that are the bottleneck(s) for the internet speed. I would even recommend locally limiting the max network speeds with those “dated” devices.
    Latency over top speed. Always.

  • @DisturbedM86
    @DisturbedM86 Місяць тому +1

    Didn't mention the fact that more speed is usually tied to more upload speed...I've upgraded mine purely for that due to all my cameras voice assistants, EV changers all vying for it and my cameras where taking forever to show the feed until I did.

  • @ThatSoddingGamer
    @ThatSoddingGamer Місяць тому +24

    Our internet is definitely overkill 99% of the time (3Gbps U/D). The next step down was 1.5Gbps, I recall, but for only about $10 less, and we WOULD use more than that on some occasions, so we went with slightly more expensive option. But the thing was, this was after the ISP (Bell) overhauled the local infrastructure for proper Fibre connections, so our old connection multiplied in speed about 10x for the same price. After being annoyed for years over buffering (esp. when multiple people were downloading or streaming 4K at the same time), it was a huge quality of life jump.
    So maybe we're paying a bit more for speed we'll mostly not take advantage of, but we really don't ever want to go back to the irritation of having videos buffering or defaulting to lower resolution just because several other people are heavily using it at the same time.
    Plus, uploading a 4K/60 video about as fast as I can write a description and fill out tags for is very satisfying, to say nothing of downloading a 100GB game to an NVMe drive in the time it takes to go the bathroom and get a drink. It technically bottlnecks around 1.2Gbps (probably the drive, it's good, but not an epic drive, my computer is also is limited by its port, capping around 2.4Gbps on a speed test) without having to worry about anyone else in the house having their connection noticeably get worse, which it might with the slower connection option.
    Call it futureproofing, or wasteful, but it is satisfying.

    • @N-HT
      @N-HT Місяць тому

      I’m with the same company bell fibe and they got fast internet for residential I’m always lower than 15 of ping got the 3gbs and even running a truenas server with it, it cost me 70$ a month just for internet but worth it

    • @AstralDragn
      @AstralDragn Місяць тому

      The difference between like 8 megabytes to over a hundred is absolute insanity, I had gigabyte connection for a about a year, not realizing just how overkill it was for my situation. Still internet is expensive in the USA.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel Місяць тому

      It does seem like internet providers are using decoy strategies to encourage people to pay more. E.g. release 2 or more products, but the most expensive is more cost effective per metric, per dollar.
      For example, 2 gbps at.. $100 USD vs 1 gbps at $80 usd. Some people would pay more. Others would think that 1 gbps is good enough.

    • @ThatSoddingGamer
      @ThatSoddingGamer Місяць тому

      @@AstralDragnInternet was expensive in Canada too, though with the new connections we have it's now pretty darn good. We used to spend a bit over $100 CDN for something like 120Mbps (and something like 25 up). Then suddenly we were paying a little bit more and that and getting like 20x the speed and with parity for upload.
      In general, I've noticed that speeds have been getting better much faster lately. It's the same with phone data.

  • @danielAgorander
    @danielAgorander Місяць тому +22

    Hey, you don't need to run Ethernet _in_ the walls to benefit. I simply spent ~20 euros to buy a long Ethernet cable, another 2 euros to buy a 100-pack of those nice little cable clips for walls, and then I routed it in a nice hidden path all the way to the living room. Then a little switch (another 20 euros?), and now everything in the living room has 1gigabit wired ethernet. Even the Samsung TV which, well, probably can't use it, but at least it's not adding to congestion in the WiFi channel space. :P
    (And being in Europe, with competition in the ISP market, I pay 28 euro a month for the gigabit fiber connection that feeds all this. :P )

    • @whattheduck4644
      @whattheduck4644 Місяць тому +1

      That's $30.48 USD. I'm gonna cry I pay $100 (91.87 euro) a month for gigabit fiber... wish there was competition here..

    • @rodjacksonx
      @rodjacksonx Місяць тому +2

      This. ^^^
      While having Ethernet in the walls sounds nice, (1) it's pretty unrealistic for many/most people to get a place that has that, (2) it's quite a bit of unneeded work to install yourself (if it's even possible, and that's not just an issue for renters,) and (3) it means that upgrading those Ethernet cables, should you ever need to, is going to be even MORE work.
      Just get however many cables you need, in a color that blends in with your walls/trim, and run them along corners and edges as needed. Done, with less hassle and easier upgrades. And if anyone has the audacity to complain about how it looks (presuming you weren't just sloppy with it,) just block their access to your wifi until they apologize. (Or until they leave. It's a win either way.)

    • @Gofr5
      @Gofr5 Місяць тому

      **Cries in $130 CAD a month for gigabit internet**.....or I would be if I didn't have a permanent $50 discount, but even at $80 it's still nuts and to think there are people out there shelling out the $130.
      Luckily the house I live in was built only 3 years ago and being a more modern house, it came with ethernet already built in to the walls.

    • @rodjacksonx
      @rodjacksonx Місяць тому

      @@Gofr5 - I'd love to pay $130 CAD (currently $96 USD) for gigabit internet, provided it had no data cap.

    • @Gofr5
      @Gofr5 Місяць тому

      @@rodjacksonx It is uncapped, yeah.

  • @nnnnwwww00
    @nnnnwwww00 Місяць тому

    Nice! now I know how to fix my WiFi not reaching the advertise Gigabit. I will invite my neighbors to download the segue to your sponsors at the same time!

  • @loclogic9195
    @loclogic9195 Місяць тому +3

    I work for my local ISP. It is incredible how often I inform customers that they simply do not need more than our base package (250x25 in our sub split areas, 250x50 in midsplit areas). I've only ever recommended gig service once. They frequently had 8 streaming devices going at the same time, a couple video calls over zoom at a time, and our MoCA tv service running in the background. Still, the only reason I recommended gig was for the upload speed for the video calls. (Package at the time was 1000x100.)
    I also want to point out that we can achieve the same residential speeds on copper as we can with fibre. We are upgrading everything to "mid split" which increases upload speed by 250% and we are slowly implementing "high split" as legacy cable TV is being phased out (old people not switching is the bottle neck here). This allows for our highest package to be 2Gb/s by 1Gb/s.

    • @josephmontanaro1962
      @josephmontanaro1962 Місяць тому

      Do you mind explaining this further? I've always wanted to know more about why coax has so much worse upload speeds than fiber. I mean, obviously at a high level you can just say "those systems were designed for broadcast, not two-way communication" and that's probably true, but I'm wondering about details.
      In particular, since you mentioned upgrading existing coax networks to support higher upload speeds, what precisely is it that can be replaced/upgraded to enable higher upload speeds in a coax network? And how does old people refusing to switch away from their legacy cable hold this back?

    • @TheSonyExperience
      @TheSonyExperience Місяць тому

      Gigabit is $80 for me but it includes the top tier MAX subscription. Going down to 300 up and down was $20 less without the max subscription. So it’s a great deal. My ISP offers 2.5 and 5gb but I’d never need those.

  • @luckylanno
    @luckylanno Місяць тому +24

    The one time I had a bandwidth issue with cable was actually because my computer was uploading a backup, which made everyone else's internet stop working (including Netflix). So the upload part can be a big deal.

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm Місяць тому

      Qos can help you with that kinda stuff btw. You need to prioritise the ack packets upstream above all else. That'll broadly stop an upload from killing downloads and won't noticeably slow the upload.

  • @Jutsch80HD
    @Jutsch80HD Місяць тому +10

    Not here in Austria's countryside. Since phone plans historically have been cheaper here than in other countries, many switched to LTE (and later 5G) for internet, which often comes with highly variable and downright slow speeds especially during prime time. Due to that rush on LTE there was almost no financial incentive to focus on fiber to the home expansion in many places, which now sucks a lot. Just now a new apartment building is getting finished near my house and despite my hopes, nobody seemed to have seen this as a good reason to use the already open road to place some fiberglass cables in the ground.

    • @Velerios
      @Velerios Місяць тому +1

      Most of the time, they don’t lay fiber cables; they just install empty conduits for adding things later. But as usual, they forget about it and end up having to cut the road open again to install these conduits, which causes the road to deteriorate faster. Now, the road is so damaged that it needs to be resurfaced again.

  • @jonogrimmer6013
    @jonogrimmer6013 Місяць тому

    Great video! I learnt a lot from this.

  • @PHIplaytesting
    @PHIplaytesting Місяць тому

    I just finished a new PC build today, after waiting 12 whole years to upgrade. The difference in ordinary web browsing on the same Internet connection is shocking. Page loading feels 5-10x as fast.

  • @Dominik-K
    @Dominik-K Місяць тому +10

    I didn't expect the GRC mention but it's truly one of the best tools for that use case I've ever seen

  • @Debilinside
    @Debilinside Місяць тому +42

    I think fast internet is more about parallel connections. Its really not about a single client utilizing the full bandwith (or at least not for most people). We are a family of 6. Both of us (the parents) works from home. The kids are also gaming and have multiple devices and sometimes our parents stay in the guest house. 1 single stream is nothing, but when 4 kids stream in 4K, my dad uploads family photos and my wife downloads Helldivers 2, I have to still have a reasonably good bandwith to work and have teams meetings with video.

    • @CJisFPV
      @CJisFPV Місяць тому +1

      Totally, but even in your scenario you would likely be fine with 500mbs down. 4 4k streams will be under 250mbs max, downloading a game is the real issue as that can pull as much bandwidth as you can give it. Even still, you could lock the download speed to 150mbs, and still have another 100 for your teams and work stuff. uploading photos wouldn’t affect your download bandwidth either.
      I do agree tho, for an extra $20 a month spread across a whole family of people it’s too easy to have full gig internet and really doesn’t cost THAT much.

    • @soy_leche
      @soy_leche Місяць тому

      Another option is to use QOS in your router. Prioritize video or specific machines

    • @MTGeomancer
      @MTGeomancer Місяць тому +1

      Still don't need gigabit for that. Four 4K streams ... isn't that much, and Zoom/Skype is vastly less. Playing games online is almost nothing. A game download may or may not take advantage of everything you give it, but setting up QoS (Quality of Service) in your router to prioritize the Zoom/Skype would solve that.

    • @bastienx8
      @bastienx8 Місяць тому +2

      @@MTGeomancer Even if 1Gbps isn't necessary, it's pretty much the standard if you want FTTH. And having a real fiber connection is a big deal because the latency is much slower and way more consistent

    • @MTGeomancer
      @MTGeomancer Місяць тому

      @@bastienx8I have Verizon FiOS but still only pay for 300/300 Mbps. To go up to gigabit is double the price.

  • @AndreGuesh
    @AndreGuesh Місяць тому

    I had gigabit fiber installed at my home but i have a pretty niche justification.
    The building is owned by my parents and they live in it, their office is there and my cousin and I rent an apartment there. So we use on isp connection for all apartments and office (with 4 rooters). A rooter isp replacement deals with the fiber, sends it to the other 4 for private network and wifi 6 by cat 8 cabels we installed in the walls (for future proof)
    We pay a lot less that if we had 4 isp connections

  • @xmacleodx
    @xmacleodx Місяць тому

    Here in AU I have a fiber connection to my house (I live in the sticks and it was a battle haha) and my ISP offers me on-the-fly daily speeds, so 99% of the time I am set to 250Mbit and my wife and I work from home and its perfect, but when we have a new game we want to download we flick a switch in our account page and BOOM! 2 mins later we are at 1Gbit for the rest of the day and its magical. Both our rigs get around 950Mbit when we up it. I have recommended our ISP to a lot of friends as its just handy to change it when you need it.

  • @AdrenoFTW
    @AdrenoFTW Місяць тому +35

    I was unaware that 10Mb/s average was too fast. Thanks Linus.

  • @scottgardiner7418
    @scottgardiner7418 Місяць тому +11

    Fibre to home was put into our neighborhood about two years ago. Switched from 120 Mbs down / 10 up cable to 3.0 Gig connection. Notice huge difference in upload speed and latency while gaming.

    • @jivewig
      @jivewig Місяць тому +1

      the latency difference is more due to fiber than speed difference. (i.e if no-one else in the house did a lot of uploading)

  • @seanoconnor8843
    @seanoconnor8843 Місяць тому +2

    Well where I come from, a gigabit connection is standard. The man just runs a fibre from the telegraph pole in the street to my door

  • @TavaresD
    @TavaresD Місяць тому

    Here in Brasil we have 4 big ISP providers that offers services in almost all cities with at least 100k population. 3 of them offers fiber conection at the modem, the other one is coaxial

  • @florbosagbag
    @florbosagbag Місяць тому +48

    For my household, 250 Mbit is $50, 500 Mbit is $60, and gigabit is $80 and comes with special treatment compared to other residential customers, like provisioning to use my own firewall instead of the ISP provided router. It's kind of a no-brainer.

    • @Kokonat007
      @Kokonat007 Місяць тому +20

      In Czechia you get 1Gbps internet for 25$ those prices are insane.

    • @TheOneAndOnlyOuuo
      @TheOneAndOnlyOuuo Місяць тому +14

      Where I live, it's illegal to force you to buy a specific router if your own one is technically compatible with the technology they use. They have to give you any login/connection details required to connect and if they use a MAC whitelist they must add yours to the list if you provide it. Living in an apartment building the connection is sold to the entire building and then you can purchase additional speed if needed. In my building the 50Mbps connection is already included in the utility/rent. It's $15/month for the 1 gigabit. Ethernet cabling is required by code for all buildings built in the past 20 years or so.

    • @JouleThief29
      @JouleThief29 Місяць тому

      ​@@TheOneAndOnlyOuuo I would love to have the option to upgrade. I only get 25 Mbps up/down and of course I was also told I could get my own plan then moving in, turns out I don't.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel Місяць тому

      Yikes, we were offered 88hkd a month for 1gbps in a promotion. They're usually at around $20 to $30 USD without a promotion.

    • @dapo_sk3967
      @dapo_sk3967 Місяць тому

      In Slovakia you can get 10Gbps for 18€ (circa 20$). :D

  • @nicholaschevy134
    @nicholaschevy134 Місяць тому +141

    I work at an ISP, and I wish everyone who calls in on a Wi-Fi4 router with a netbook from 2015 crying about not getting gigabit speed could see this.

    • @hotbrakepads
      @hotbrakepads Місяць тому +18

      But they’re not getting what they paid for. Sell them what they need bro.

    • @zarkozi
      @zarkozi Місяць тому +14

      Shouldn't you provide the proper router with the Gigabit service in the first place

    • @ageorgiev89
      @ageorgiev89 Місяць тому +7

      @@zarkozi Shouldn't you buy hardware capable of using gigabit in first place?

    • @hugevibez
      @hugevibez Місяць тому +2

      Not only should you supply a router that can achieve those speeds, but you should also allow people to bring their own. I need my tailscale tunnel to terminate at the router so my firewall applies to the incoming traffic.

    • @landon8676
      @landon8676 Місяць тому

      @@zarkozimine does but you have to pay for it

  • @ProfRoxas
    @ProfRoxas Місяць тому

    When i got my phone to replace my old one (it was working fine except the wifi and BT chip) They somehow messed up my order and upgraded my internet, but since i really needed that phone at covid and was mad, i accepted the slightly increased price
    I know the internet will never be at the advertised speed, so i'm glad it usually sits around at 1850mbps at avg most of the time

  • @Puffycheeses
    @Puffycheeses Місяць тому

    In Australia we have to buy set Fibre plans from a single wholesaler (The NBN) who sell via ISPs. The only decent plans are 100/40, 250/100, 500/200 and 1000/400 but typically even with FTTP you'll only see half the advertised speed. It sucks if you want decent upload since you need to buy the more expensive download plan. It's impossible to mix and match. If you want 200+ upload you *need* to buy the 500/1000+ download

  • @magnusbruce4051
    @magnusbruce4051 Місяць тому +5

    Eh, we pay basically the same price (~£30/month) for FTTH as we did for broadband which was - at best - about 5 meg, often less than 1 meg. It might be faster than we need, but I do have an ethernet connection to my desktop and M.2 SSD storage so I do actually take advantage of the speed. Also when the option in my area was "shitty and unreliable" or "amazingly fast with very little downtime" for virtually the same price, it's a no-brainer.
    The installation fee was covered by a government grant. The downside was digging a trench for the cable to run down, but that only took me and my dad about three afternoons.

  • @BC-ji9xr
    @BC-ji9xr Місяць тому +54

    Problem is because of competition. Most cable providers will give you upload speeds that are out of ratio, so 300mbps gives me 15mbps here, and 1gbps to 30mbps. That extra 15mbps is massive when doing backup uploads twice a week.

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 Місяць тому +10

      The term is asymmetrical, it's been a known term for 25+ years.

    • @rohansampat1995
      @rohansampat1995 Місяць тому

      Get Fibre

    • @richardmarkert7736
      @richardmarkert7736 Місяць тому +13

      @@benwu7980 Whatever you call it, it's trash

    • @babaecalus
      @babaecalus Місяць тому +5

      @@rohansampat1995 I have just that, and it's still asymmetrical.
      300 down, 50 up. Nothing to do with that at all. Providers just being providers.

    • @pthsawas
      @pthsawas Місяць тому +2

      Damn thats rough, here in thailand i got 1gbps download and 500mbps up for like 20$ a month

  • @adamschwoerer7306
    @adamschwoerer7306 Місяць тому +6

    Sounds like a tax write off

  • @doslover
    @doslover Місяць тому +2

    It's true, with some patience even 30Mbps is plenty for most purposes. If you're willing to wait a bit longer to download a game or upload a video it's more than fine for the day to day stuff (streaming to multiple devices, browsing, listening to music, etc etc). A big ol' 20GB game is still only going to take about an hour and a half. Faster is better but unless you're downloading AAA games every day, probably not a huge impact.
    I've been on the 'budget' plan with my ISP as long as they've had it and they keep upgrading the speed, which is sweet, but while they have Gigabit here, I just can't justify it (or even >100Mbps). I was fine with 30, now I'm up to 100 on the cheapest plan but I can't see any reason to upgrade, as much as I'd love to have it 😄

  • @DamianTheFirst
    @DamianTheFirst Місяць тому +5

    It really depends on location. For years I had to use mobile connection with astonishing speeds from 2 to 22 Mbit/s (depending on weather and time of the day), though with unlimited data plan. Then finally last year I got an option to get fiber connected to my house. Now I have symmetrical 1Gb/s, and it costs $25 ($10 for the first 6 months) - the same as my old mobile connection
    btw, the offer I got was $20 for 300Mbit/s, $22 for 600Mbit/s, and $25 for 1Gbit/s. I took the fastest one and had to replace all my internet cables, route new cables to every room, and buy new router and two switches. It was worth it. I feel like I've started a new life

  • @Tritium21
    @Tritium21 Місяць тому +13

    So i did the math on this recently - I have gigabit right now, and in the price of gigabit, the mandatory isp router rental is included. if i downgraded to 500 meg, i would have to pay for the mandatory isp router rental ... which would make it...the same price. their next tier down is under 100 meg. It is more economical for me, in my location, with my isp... to stay at gigabit. Footnote: the router rental is mandatory, but you can just leave it in the box - i actually use a mikrotik

    • @jivewig
      @jivewig Місяць тому

      I wish you had the money to file a lawsuit instead

  • @vladdamir
    @vladdamir Місяць тому

    Half gig service has been pretty good in small town OH, even with kid's tablets, game consoles and phones all connected and running simultaneously

  • @sdotcire2574
    @sdotcire2574 Місяць тому

    Hate to admiit it... but you definitely have valid points. This has been in the back of my mind for a while, but I'm still always like I need MOAR! Just moved to a place with 1 Gig fiber for like $80, which is a great deal compared to what I was paying Comcast where I was paying more for less speed. Now that you have me thinking, 300Mb would be half the price... That would save nearly $500 a year! Thanks!

  • @Remington510
    @Remington510 Місяць тому +3

    Total banger, love to see the old Linus vibes! One more thing to consider is your endpoint device and the area you live in. You have some 2nd hand 10-year-old office desktop? 100mpbs may be the top. Buying 300, 500, 1000 won't help.
    You live in post-soviet bunkers called flats? Well, your Wi-Fi may not find the other room (wall reinforcement, being basically a Faraday's cage). Consider wired or an upgrade (not in spec, but in tech).

  • @bazzeil
    @bazzeil Місяць тому +4

    I constantly hear customers saying "I told my kids to stop gaming, but my streaming is still bad when I'm downloading on my iPad" or "My super geek friend said streaming doesn't use any internet, and gaming needs tons"...
    I'd love to see a usage comparison between services like Netflix, Disney, and UA-cam against games like COD, CS2, and Minecraft with 4 players. People flip when I inform them how much these games need.
    I've got a particular customer I've nicknamed "Minecraft" in our system, they regularly complain they have issues in certain servers. I eventually ended up having to go on site and see what they're doing... They'd been hosting and playing modded Minecraft on 2012 Macbooks; i5 dual core, 4gb of ram. Showing them activity monitor, they quickly quoted a forum post they'd read that blamed the internet and that "the processor had to cache to missing frames in the memory to wait for the internet to catch up" and that was why the cpu and ram were maxed out...

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm Місяць тому

      Wow. That's... Special. I'm glad I'm not in that role any more lol

  • @TenCreator-2
    @TenCreator-2 Місяць тому +1

    I only get 4mbps down and 0.5mpbs up on a good day… that’s the best any provider can do for me, it’s why I’ve been planning on going for a 500mbps lease line or even 1gig lease line just to even come close to the speeds of my Dallas server that has 10 gig

  • @smorrow
    @smorrow Місяць тому

    I already knew there's no point in being able to download a UA-cam video faster than I can actually watch it (which I assume it what this video will be about), but where I am I can't choose download speed and monthly download cap independently, and I wanted unlimited download.

  • @TheOnlyName
    @TheOnlyName Місяць тому +14

    Techquickie featured video: *Is Your Internet FAST Enough?*
    This video: *_Your Internet is Too Fast_*

  • @simonbartha-toth4150
    @simonbartha-toth4150 Місяць тому +89

    Anyone watching in 2018?

    • @carguy2413
      @carguy2413 Місяць тому +10

      Naw 1982

    • @Vorexia
      @Vorexia Місяць тому +5

      1937 here

    • @wkGeoff
      @wkGeoff Місяць тому +3

      1275

    • @CSBLOP
      @CSBLOP Місяць тому +6

      30mio before Christus the dinosaurs fucking up my Internet Speed

    • @ekarolak
      @ekarolak Місяць тому

      1670

  • @SleevelessMTG
    @SleevelessMTG Місяць тому +1

    Wow, I work for an isp, I’m gonna go into every job and just play this video

  • @Fanaticalight
    @Fanaticalight Місяць тому

    Funny timing, the FCC raised the minimum download/upload speeds from 25/3 to 100/20 Mbps today.

  • @ryancampbell955
    @ryancampbell955 Місяць тому +3

    Here where I live in the US, we've had one available IPS in our area for years now. There are no other options to try. And the lowest tier offered by this local IPS is 200 Mbps. That's crazy. They used to have lower tiers of around 40-50 that were cheaper, but they got rid of those. I've argued with them time and time again that some people, including my 70 year old mom, just don't need that kind of speed. They were happy to get rid of their $30 plan and force everyone up to their $70 plan by bragging about their 200 Mbps speeds, but if you don't use those speeds, it's just wasted money. But they don't care. It sucks to not have options. You either take their service, or don't have Internet. It's a complete monopoly.

  • @el_es
    @el_es Місяць тому +3

    I know a person working at an ISP who approves of this message. They won't go on record but they said especially the BUT LINUS chapter and beyond, feels like spot on.

  • @Cats_Gaming
    @Cats_Gaming Місяць тому +3

    Linus: "your internet is too fast"
    Me in australia with a 100/40 plan for $100/month.

  • @DaisukiMusic
    @DaisukiMusic Місяць тому +1

    Seedboxes and VPS are way expensive because they charge you for space, 50Tb are expensive AF, on the other hand if you buy 50TB of HDD and SSD for new T, it will be way cheaper in a couple months

  • @twiggsherman3641
    @twiggsherman3641 Місяць тому +79

    We have 1.5 gig internet. My son is playing online games on his PC. The wife is streaming 4k Netflix, my work PC is doing its thing over a VPN, and I'm watching 4k UA-cam pretending to work. We can probably get away with less bandwidth, but the difference between 1 gig and 1.5 was 20 bucks a month. I'd rather have the overhead there for downloading new games and not hearing someone yell their stuff is buffering.

    • @Mark-hg6vc
      @Mark-hg6vc Місяць тому +8

      Can't imagine using up the whole 1.5gig. I would have to be downloading games and torrenting 24/7 for it to be worth it. Currently have a 500mbps plan and in my case it's more than enough. Is your 1.5gig plan expensive?

    • @C.r.i.m.s.o.n
      @C.r.i.m.s.o.n Місяць тому +13

      and didn't you know that 3 gigs is only another 20 dolars!!!?? what a steal, and why stop there, why not get 10 gigs for just another 20 after that!

    • @Johnwilliams-th9hq
      @Johnwilliams-th9hq Місяць тому +9

      literall his point, dude you thats like 150mbs, download max

    • @RudyOMP
      @RudyOMP Місяць тому +6

      You’re probably using 10% of that speed max

    • @SirFrag32
      @SirFrag32 Місяць тому +8

      Unless you're running 2.5gb switching hardware or better, you'll never get 1.5.

  • @Telperien1
    @Telperien1 Місяць тому +4

    One other thing to consider is your packages download limit. Many of the fastest packages (while you may not need or use the full speed) allow for unlimited download. While the slower packages may have a download limit per month and could end of costing you more in overage fees if you download a lot a data per month.

  • @technopc2953
    @technopc2953 Місяць тому +1

    I do actually distribute Linux ISO's (like, real ISO's). Turns out a OpenWRT mirror is a multi TB archive. Which means that the cloud is far too expensive for that