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Honestly the self appointed Asian-fishing cultural appropriation police have circled all the way around to being straight up racist. It's just segregation with extra steps.
Yup, by the time I was dating an asian guy, everyone said I baited him because I have slightly "sleepy eyes" because I have a lot of fat in my cheeks. No, I didn't even wore make up.
This is so true, I'm mixed (but I could not pass as white, I look a lot like my mom) and I have double eyelids, but my mom (who is fully Asian) also has double eyelids that look just like mine.
Let's not forget that most of these asian-fishing accusations are probably coming from chronically online 15 yr olds who think they're doing the asian community a favor
It's funny cuz I'd tell people "hey, I have had several asians tell me people are going overboard and it's not asian-fishing" to then hear I was a monster 🥴 Like sorry I don't listen to the internet only, full of 10-15yos?
Fr It's so stupid because they're getting offended on behalf of people that genuinly don't care about whatever the problem is, if it's an actual problem then asian people will talk about it themselves. They don't need random teenagers to "help"
I’m half Black and half Asian and as an adult a coworker accused me of Asian fishing saying I had been doing it for years (in middle school and high school). I was like huh? What are you talking about and he said like, “for instance, WHY do you your makeup that way? You are trying to look asian so hard” and then I had to tell him my eye makeup doesn’t make me ‘look’ Asian. I look Asian because I am. 🙄
He would die if he knew that a lot of black people have “Asian looking” eyes. Specifically those native from Africa depending on region. And I’m half African myself I’ve seen and met plenty of people with these features. People have such stereotypical perceptions about other people and cultures that they end up being racist themselves 💀
@@eyesofwater123 that’s a great idea! I wish I would have thought of that back then. Management at the time was racist too, so the only way to go would have been directly to HR. If only I had the presence of mind back then
@@Tua009 yea if only he knew, his head would have definitely exploded. One of the other things that he said to me that I didn’t mention before was that he also sighted that I had been seen ‘hanging out’ with some Asians before. ( To Further justify the allegation of Asian Fishing)…Like what does that even mean? How is that suppose to be any different from hanging out with black or white or whatever race of friends? It’s just stupid. But even when I told him I was half Asian he responded with, “No you’re not.” And “prove it”. Which of course I told him believe it or don’t believe it, I don’t have to prove sh*t to you”
@srose1088 i had to look it up, but im dead. It would be so easy to mix trad goth with it. Haha, im crying. Why would it work so well. Were they the first goths. Help!!!
@ranlee2155 apparently the sharp triangle for the inner corner eye and then the hard flick triangle up for the end of the eye. "MAkEs Me LoOk AsAiN. Which asian does it make me look like. I'm not so sure on that one. Gotta get out more, I guess.
@@UwUarchy0 I think it's because that style of eyeliner (if it's what I'm thinking of) is great for monolids. _But_ it wasn't created for monolids, it was a style that existed and just happened to suit monolids well
bro people hate on kai ALL THE TIME it’s pisses me off 😭 i’ve been a moa since late 2019 and huening has ALWAYS been my ult bias, seeing all the hate he’s gotten throughout the years has been too much until recently when people did a complete 180 ever since huening kai “become hot”. people are so frustrating
Yeah um isn't Kai like half Asian/ half German? Like the half part is still valid it just means he's mixed maybe not fully that race but he's not pretending to be Asian either he is but only partly like um what??? 🤷🏽♀️😑🤦🏽♀️ Also Kai is my bias like he's so cute regardless of whatever he is mixed with I could care less he's still cute and I rest my case. 😅
i’ll never forget how i got accused of asian fishing on tiktok in 2021 because i wore elongated eyeliner, had a hatemob of comments leaving derogatory slurs on every single one of my videos, finding my highschool and trying to contact my family members, and demanding i apologize. i’m a black woman with sisterlocks. WHO was I asianfishing. edit: i also want to add that being able to “asianfish” would require some element of racial ambiguity which is a privilege i do not have. the accusation implied that i was trying to be something other than black felt insulting. it also implied that all asian people have the same eye shape which is a whole other issue
Its amazing they'd come after you for eyeliner but no one bats an eye when Asians or white ppl get fillers a surgery and perm their hair to look black🙃🙃
I have slavic hooded eyes that are pretty slanted, and the Chinese and Japanese cosplay girlies really saved my eyeliner in the 2010s. Never would have figured out how to make eyeliner work for me without their help 🙏🏻
same! i remember thinking that only black people could have hooded eyes and i was so scared to try eye makeup for hooded eyes because i didn’t want to culturally appropriate anything
@@lyra2282 honestly, it was the wild west. I just looked for Tumblr and YT lolita and cosplay makeup tutorials back in like... 2012? So maybe try looking for that and then just adapt the eyeliner part?
to assume someone of "asian fishing" (an accusation of racism) with no evidence is to basically admit they only see one way an asian person can look (which is an act of racism)
This also happens a lot with Indigenous creators online. People expect us to be armed with the entirety of our genetic and ethnic history and list off nation and clan names (as if that isn't basically doxxing ourselves most of the time), otherwise we're accused of being Pretendians. Conveniently, this mostly happens to Afroindigenous folk like me, pale-skinned indigenous folk, and Indigenous people who just aren't trotting out regalia for every TikTok or look like they're from the Plains region. People seem to use their broad ignorance to bludgeon others under the pretense of helping a minority group, but in their own way are reinforcing stereotypes and causing headaches for us (and themselves!) instead.
REAL! My own sister got fooled into thinking my family wasn't 'as indigenous' as we thought we were, while I'm not super duper pale I am pastier than what some people expect me to be. It just feels weird y'know, having someone else ask for your super private details simply because you don't align with their stereotype.
yes but ywall are mixed and just have a hard time admitting it too like afro indians but then again if ywall was to say you was mixed you'd pribbly be called waterd down and not real indians just for being mixed so i get it
This! My grandmother is full indigenous and she is pale, but a lot of the people on our reserve are pale and some with coloured hazel or green eyes. Peoples first assumptions is that she is eastern Asian and not indigenous at all. Her children (aunties/my father) have darker skin. Genetics work in wonderful ways that make us all unique.
Yes. The 1380s BCE with Egyptians Queen Nefertiti. Then in the 1920s, when Tut’s tomb was opened there was a resurgence in everything Egypt and women started copying that “cat eyeliner” from ancient Egypt. Look up Josephine Baker. Then in the 1960s there was another real resurgence with the addition of false eyelashes. Thick cat eye liner was a convenient way to cover up the base of the falsies. Look up Sophia Loren or Marilyn Monroe. And who’s to say there weren’t other cultures who used that style between ancient Egypt and the 1920s? I only have rudimentary makeup history knowledge and those are the ones I could think up off the top of my head.
also why pink/cute = asian? why asian = kawaii? why asian = anime? they'll bash anyone who even contains a trace of weeb and forget to look in the mirror
I don't even understand why we're pretending the doll eye look has literally never been done before East Asian internet trends and Douyin invented the concept of cateye liquid liner.
@chegu613 And doll eyes with "Manga lashes" was done in the 20s and 60s and white to make bigger eyes was also 60s and we were all doing cateye liner in the alt scene in the early-mid 2000s and the 80s had a sharper version (plus 80s and 90s rockabilly did it) and.... Like literally wut Oh Punk and Trad Goth have versions from the late 70s and 80s too and Marilyn Monroe in the 50s. The more I think about this the more it's just like "this has been perpetually in style since forever"
The fake eyelashes white eyeliner round eye "dolly look" and a lot of japanese cutesy styles like mini skirts were actually popularized by 60s western fashion and Twiggy who was super popular as a model in Japan and introduced those kind of styles. It reminds me of when I saw an asian woman on twitter demand white people to stop wearing japanese fashion and to start wearing our own historical fashions, I wear lolita so that statement was so ridiculous to me in a roundabout way...... all cultures influence one another ever since the world became more globalized
@@tenneluna6948 Shelly Duvall also had some looks that definitely if you didn't know the photo was almost half a century old would straight up just look like J Fashion to the modern eye.
Sounds like a ton of people with too much time being offended on behalf of Asians. I recommend 15-30 minutes of going outside and touching grass before and after a meal.
Reminds me of that one time Twitter users bullied someone named "Mei" because it's an "Asian name." ...But the user WAS Asian. Just not East Asian. Like, bro... some names from other cultures are just super popular worldwide. The name "Naomi" is of both Hebrew and Japanese origin, but you still see people outside of those ethnicities with that name. In turn, many Asian people have European names, but you don't see anyone saying, "You're just pretending to be French for the aesthetic!"
The difference is that asians in europe get bullied for having ethnic names thats why they change it to an american or european name. And also more job opportunities
I have a chinese name, I got it from my chinese teacher, and I used it in an online game because I like it so much, resembles my personality so well. Yeah I got some angry comments to, even though I told them I am not chinese, i got it from my chinese, chinese teacher, so maybe if a chinese people honorably give it to me, I can use it. No. Haters everywhere, lol.
Another thing people seem to forget or just ignore is that not everything is focused around ethnicity alone. You can be born in Asia, be raised in Asia and live there your entire life and otherwise look "white" because quess what? Asia is BIG and doesn't stop at East Asia, and there are a lot of different people living there. Imagine being called a "fisher" because you dare to do something what's simply popular in the region you live in but Karen from New York decided to be offended on the behalf of a hypothetical Asian person. (rant from Central Asia over)
These TikTok people are so tiring, like, the girlies have been wearing eyeliner long before you were even born 😭 I also have a friend who has very hooded eyes, everyone keeps thinking she is Asian or mixed while she is 100% white..
having hooded eyes can be such a nightmare when it comes to eyeliner, like sorry we literally cannot apply it in the same way i guess. (i also have hooded eyes).
I couldn't agree more. Say it with me folks - "Liking something from a different ethnicity as yours is NOT fishing for some kind of validation from them." My goodness are people not allowed to put eyeliner a different way now! Some of these people give me intense second-hand embarrassment.
I started getting into Japanese street fashion when I was thirteen in the ancient year of 2003. I just distinctly remember trying to do my make up like the visual kei bands I listened (and still listen to). I got severely made fun of for having having my visual kei magazines on me at school. Literally kids behind me wouldn’t point at the dudes and yell “GAY!” Fast-forward to the pandemic era of TikTok when I was showing a tutorial on how I did my droopy eye make up for a visual kei look and I stg some 13 year-old kid came into my comment section and accused me of Asian fishing and I almost thought about just going off-grid and Ted Kazczynski-ing it. But I got my composure and told that little twerp to take a walk off a nanometer pier because I wasn’t about to relive that judgement again lmaooo. It’s quite insane how things have changed.
As an eastern asian that had lived in japan for sometime, go for it if you like certain style inspired/mimicking their culture. You'll probably receive compliments from them. (I did!) Really tho, it isn't as deep as these chronically online kids make it to be. Keep rocking that V-Key look ❤
Me too! I even had my hair cut similar to Shou from A9. If I wore cat eye makeup people told me I looked like I was trying to look Asian. I have small hooded eyes so eyeliner kind of disappears. They knew I liked Japanese music and I lived in a very white area. A lot of people were mad I liked Japanese music at all.
Im half chinese and I'm so happy someone has finally talked more about this happening. Its been so weird from watching asian culture become popular and trendy here in the West. It weirds me out when i talk with people who used to tease and pick on me for liking asian stuff and clothes now talking to me about kpop idols, anime, and boba like ive never heard of these things before. It gives me whiplash
Why would people tease you for liking things from your culture or your country like ok i understands that kpop things sometimes this stans or fans tend to go to far
I think somewhere along the way the crazy marketing teams for kpop realized that just like America makes movies for the Asian market to make more money, they could also export the crazy obsessive fan trend to the west to make more money, and now there's been a weird massive shift. (Which oddly enough plays a lot into the west fetishizing "exotic" 🤢 people)
My husband is Chinese and they always make it weird. They start talking about Japan traditions and stuff and sometimes sexualize it. My brother who is 18 keeps asking if I know how to make certain foods that are Japanese. Husband had an ex who kept talking about him as if he’s Korean. It’s weird.
I'm 100% white, but, well--i started watching anime at 6, and i got into Japanese culture, followed by Korean and Chinese--i joke that I'm a weeb but with full understanding of how absolutely gross and toxic a lot of weebs can be. So obviously my experience is in no way comparable to yours, but a lot of aspects of Asian culture have been very normal to me for a very long time. I'm 30 years old and in my lifetime it has been baffling to watch people's attitudes towards various cultures change, particularly watching Japanese culture come over and suddenly become this elitist thing, with all these white people acting like experts. I've had my own brother and his wife mock me for preferring nigiri over the "exciting" Americanized rolls they prefer. I've eaten rambutans and canned lychee and gotten disgusted looks only for them to be telling me about this cool fruit they found online a few years later. It has been wild to watch, even just as this third party viewer who just likes to learn about other cultures. Intellectually i understand like, oh the unknown is scary. But really, what unknown? It's just people. People from the other side of the world so of course they're different, but people all the same. I suppose I'm proud that i exposed myself to other cultures and proud of my upbringing that I'm...tolerant of differences? But gods. Could the bar be any lower? It's infuriating every time i hear of someone bullied as a child for their culture, because it's unacceptable that basic tolerance is so rare that not even one person was around to beat the snot out of those racist bullies. Because I'm thrilled to say i absolutely never let that happen around me and it's baffling that so many did. I once grabbed a boy and ah--i didn't actually say anything i just death glared him, then very loud told my friend to let me know if anyone said anything like that to her again lmao. I was pretty notorious so, well. Hopefully she would've told me if anyone did. It's so...incomprehensible to me that so many people choose complacency. Ugh. Anyway. Hopefully this isn't like--i don't want to be talking over you or anything. Just....even as some dumb little weeb, I've seen this absolutely atrocious behavior as people go from negative racism to....positive racism? With a boatload of cultural appropriation and all sorts new and exciting grossness that i hope is at least marginally better but like. It's still pretty freaking bad. And they'll be having boba and sushi and then start talking shirt about Japan or something like. Be so for real right now!!!!! Or they'll infantize and entire culture like they're all innocent woowoo babies!!!! Everyone's just people why is this so hard!!!!!!! But don't worry guys. Supreme court said there's no more racism!
God, the eyeliner police strikes again.😑 Like changing your name on FB to an Asian last name is bad, sure, but eyeliner is just eyeliner. Thanks for the video
Some people are really doing too much with it, but most people are just trying to participate in a trend rich wealthy influencers and celebrities generally get away with and praised for. Like that one girl’s post in Reddit who had the wing and inner corners in black liquid liner. No, honey, you’re not Asian fishing. But that eyeliner REALLY is not for you simply because it doesn’t suit your features. Everyone’s eyes and the balance of their other features are individual, regardless of race or ethnicity. Even the makeup East Asians are doing rn on social media is just the current trend and isn’t going to suit every individual Asian person’s face. And I think when someone is wearing another culture’s popular but not extreme style and get accused of racefishing or racebaiting, the accusers are just jealous that particular style doesn’t naturally suit their features but suits that other person. I remember doing straight Korean eyebrows a few years ago because at the time the only trendy alternative was Western super arched eyebrows. In hindsight, neither actually suited me even though the Korean brows were better. If I’d bothered to study my face and step outside of what’s trendy sooner, I would’ve realized I need a slight gentle arch added. But it took the East Asian trends diversifying for me to realize that. Same with my lips, I was using dark brown liner because that’s what was trendy in the West on full lips and the alternative was sharply demarcated Asian gradient lips which didn’t suit me-in hindsight neither suited me. Took trends diversifying for me to realize single color blurred gradient with my natural darker pigmentated edges looks best on me. People need to 1. Do what looks good on them regardless of trend or origin of style 2. Stop throwing baseless accusations at people out of jealousy 3. Stop looking at ethnic groups as a monolith and dig deeper into who is doing what technique and why. E.g. Is this style of eyeliner because of the monolid? Oh. Well, what are people of this see ethnic group but with double eyelids doing? What about triple eyelids? Round eyes? Narrow eyes? How does that relate to my features? Etc.
I'm confused what the controversy is with the eyeliner. I am older lol...54. I am not sure what they are doing with the eyeliner that is considered appropriation. When I was a kid it was big eyeliner and lots of it.
How the hell changing your name of FB into an asian name is bad? I'm asian and most teenagers and adults that i know have this "japanese name" era, especially if they watch anime, i asked multiple of my japanese friends and they said it's fine as long the name doesn't have element of mockery
when will ppl understand that the FISHING part of asianfishing will always mean INTENTIONAL MISLEADING, just bc they put on eyeliner it doesnt mean theyre asianfishing, if they put on eyeliner with the intent of fooling people then they are asianfishing edit 4 clarity!!
Even if the person wants to do their makeup in a way that knowingly "makes them look more asian", its still a non-issue unless theyre outwardly trying to CONVINCE people they are. I sometimes get confused as Wasian or asian passing, despite only being a quarter. At times I will further accentuate my features in a way that makes me 100% look mixed, but thats only because of a style I happen to like and choose to use on my face. I know exactly what it does, but theres no intentional misdirection at all, and people would see that if they properly interacted with me -.- Edit: I also do cosplay, so take that as you will.
True. I can only think of Arianna Grande as someone who may have done Asian Fishing, and she won’t admit it so we’ll never have confirmation. Imo, AG has incentive to look mixed. Whether that is Asian, Black, or Latina, she can pull in more fans if she seems relatable to them. But a random woman wearing no cat eye eyeliner to university or a concert does not have incentive to mislead people and is not Asian fishing
3:10 I used to do my eyeliner like this about a decade ago, it's nothing new. This is just another case of terminally online Tiktok kids discovering something that has existed for ages, pretending it's a new thing, and calling it something else.
I'm so glad you showed the Kurdish girl, I'm also from the middle east and it's always so hurtful to get told I'm not asian. Asian people don't accept us as asian, white people don't accept us as white and the middle east doesn't actually exist. Asia isn't just east asia...I always feel like we're just erased
Why do you care? I'm Moroccan and the term African has been turned into a synonym for blacks when it's literally a word from our language. The same way Asian now means yellow people. I still stand proud even with Americans being Americans 😂😂😂
I understand the wish to belong. It’s human. I just wish it was enough for all of us to be human. The things that unite us all outweigh the differences by far.
I’m baffled. I’m white & I’ve done some of these eye makeup looks way back when I was in middle school and actually did eye makeup. It was just how I was taught how to apply eyeliner with my lid shape so I could actually see my eyeliner + I have a fairly round eye shape so it was common to emphasize that via upturned winged eyeliner with white eyeliner on the waterline. Im not on tiktok or Twitter so I’m just kinda confused on when this became controversial because I have genuinely no clue how what I remembered being standard makeup trends became considered Asian fishing by certain online groups. Like- I remember watching videos on how to do eyeliner in 2012 that from the clips shown would nowadays be considered Asian fishing. Truly, what a weird thing to try to fight about online.
i think it must have happened around the time of the “fox eye” trend? people started saying that doing “fox eyes” is asianfishing. i remember seeing a few legit cases of asianfishing but as usual, people took it too far and started accusing everyone who wore fox eye style eyeliner or took inspiration from asian makeup styles of asianfishing. now ig it’s extended to ALL winged eyeliner being asianfishing….
Same, back in high school (2003-2007 for me), cat eyes were popular! EVERY EMO GIRLIE OUT THERE had cat eyes and kawaii accessories. I was not into the emo scene, but I was very much into gaming and anime so I saw the trend. But as far as I know, the cat eyes have been around for a millennia, being super popular in the 1950s-1960s and then getting popular again when I was young. It's like these people harassing people about make up and eyeliner have never looked into fashion outside of this decade.
I dyed my hair black before studying abroad in rural Japan 15 years ago. My dorm mother asked why I dyed my hair and I said to fit in. I'm the height of average Japanese guys. People walked by me from behind like I was just like them. Only when they saw my foreign face from the front would they give me a wide berth. I let my normal color grow in and didn't re-dye it because by then I'd adjusted.
When I was younger I moved from Asia to the US and got bullied for my features at school… seeing all of this sudden obsession with Asians is making me genuinely mad like what a time we live in 😭
That is so frustrating. I grew up in Mexico, with big round hazel eyes! Kids still bully me for having "frog eyes". Mean kids will always find a way to bully others. Because then when I moved to the US, I was bullied for having tan skin and hazel eyes! As if a Mexican can't have that mix! as Mexican, we are either seen as super dark skin and dark hair! Or nothing in between lol the key is to love yourself no matter what people say or think!
@@DetsCrissy The whole scenario of some people being mexican but having (mostly ignorant people) sort of revealing they though less of you is weird. Kind of like people being 'but you're beautiful, I wouldn't of assumed you were x ethnicity!' because of the possession of caucasian features, but the underlying general implications are just weird and extremely back handed.
@@mleys3248because they were bullied for it? Although I don’t think they are mad at the general public but more like at those people that did bully them and now are suddenly “accepting” and “liking” things they used to bully others for.
The mono lids thing is so true. My bestie and roommate has mono lids even though as far as she's aware, she's 100% Bulgarian, aka Eastern European. She's been telling me that even though she's not Asian, some people mistake her for asian because of her eyes and even had classmates making fun of her in school. In reality my friend is an absolutely stunning girl, but people are just weird when they see someone they deem as "different"
many eastern europeans have asian looking features from the hunnic, mongol, scythian conquests back in the day. even if you friend is 100% bulgarian, it is so normal for bulgarians to have that type of dna that it's considered standard. that said, the old bulgarians also came from further east, they are not native europeans. the current bulgarians have mostly slavic blood, but also old bulgarian.
@chegu613 That's definitely true. But it's still seen as a rarity here to have asian looking features. Both me and my friend have often been mistaken for foreigners by other Bulgarians on multiple occasions. But I guess the only way to find out the full truth would be a DNA test. Plus a lot of Bulgarians outright deny the fact that there's Asian presence in our ancestry, for some reason they find that as "insulting". It's just weird, ya know. Especially considering that Bulgaria's location is pretty much on a crossroad between so many different ethnicities. It's like the locals forget that we're actually more ethically diverse than they like to believe. Not to mention the big minority of Romani people here, or the fact that our lands were under the Ottoman empire for roughly 500 years.
Omg yeah me and one of my classmates got pulled aside for a “random search” at the airport on our highschool trip in 2013. I am Asian but my classmate had monolids despite being a white boy with natural brown hair. He literally could be Asian passing
@@mimiche967 a DNA test would not make sense - a DNA test just tells you which group in the world right now has the greatest similarities to you. for you, that would be bulgaria. it doesn't tell you if your ancestors were huns, avars, or whatever. most bulgarians have ancestry from nomadic eastern tribes, even though the majority of the dna is slavic. if your genetic mix is overall the same as most other bulgarians, you would aleays come out as bulgarian in a dna test. also pretty illogical of bulgarians to deny that their country is literally named after the bulgars, who came from central asia.
loved seeing someone talk about this! especially that the epicanthic fold isn’t exclusive to asians! more ppl need to know this😭 i’m white but have a tapered crease, and there’s been a few times in real life (with no makeup on) i’ve gotten asked by asian ppl if i’m mixed, so sometimes i’m nervous some chronically online child might one day try to accuse me of asian fishing online, when i can’t help the way my eyelids just are
Same with me I had this since birth. It is so weird tho I had brown eyes too and they changed to green. I mean I am definitely mixed since I am Austrian but I never knew that a lot of Slavic people have this too
Omg same! I have an epicanthic fold, but it's because I have 'snow eyes', which is a fully European trait. I'm Danish and ppl assume I'm mixed... like literally just how my face looks, but ok.
I've been waiting for this video oh my god, I'm tired of ppl fetishizing us fr.. not all east asians look like kpop idols and we won't be your oppars 😭
Aside from the extremes of surgery which is an issue of beyond just the “popularity” of Asian. But the examples of eye make up is a no. As that is culturally universal from kohl worn almost everywhere (medicinal reasons and makeup which is ancient). Instead this is a conversation happening in hyphenated Asians western circles. The irony in westerners and yes even Asian westerns declaring themselves police of (seems to oddly only be a conversation in East Asians) Korea Japanese Chinese Americans Canadians because you saw how much fun the USA has in policing politics and leaders of other countries you decided are modern and culture does not live in borders or genetics. Let me guess your nationality is western… ironically the people in those countries want people to participate in THEIR culture… not f you are say Japanese-American that is YOUR culture. So dictating and policing other cultures is the height and condescension of western privilege. And you and my family do not get a vote based on approximation per ethnicity. But if you want to study and read academically on these topics then proceed but leave this garbage manipulation of anthropological topics in the lands and hands of ccp tiktok.
I enjoy the meme comment i saw where someone typed “i wish to be a beautiful small japanese girl, but i was born a large black man” or something like that.
I feel so bad for you all, i remember someone didn’t think my friend was Korean cause he was tan😭. I lowkey wish everyone can stop fetishizing races but that possibility seems unlikely
@ that’s not what the term means. Racial fetishizing EXCLUSIVELY-means the sexual associations based on race beyond a mere preference which everyone has. Aka “yellow fever” for Asian fixation. That example about skin color is not a crime. It is simply someone who had a stereotype about what a Korean looks like from limited contact. It’s the no different then the brilliant comedian Ronnie Chieng saying Indians are not Asian not realizing that north West Indians have racial “Asian” features (race is no longer biologically recognized) but Asian becomes a bizarre geographical context too broad to mean anything. And concepts like modern borders are not the limits of culture or retired forms of human taxonomy. You may also be experiencing internalized racism where there are East Asians and yes Asians will tell other eastern Asians you must not be Korean, Japanese etc because of skin color… Fun fact as someone devoted to East Asian History or more specifically north East Asian studies I am tired of of westerners and Americans specifically who hear anthropological terms do not research it beyond an American centric view that white is bad and off white is always the victim of the other and topics can never be nuanced unique nor require clarification beyond stereotypes you learned in tiktok… let me guess you get your exposure on these issues from tiktok and read nothing beyond?! The world is not black and white and Asians have been serving stereotypes about skin color purity and being civilized well before the Europeans arrived.
it sucks to see groups of people get treated like commodities, it only leads to people having unrealistic expectations such as appearance. at that point you question if these users even see them as a fellow human
New fear unlocked. I'm mixed indigenous and white and i have olive shaped eyes with heavy lids. Now I gotta be afraid of getting accused of "fishing" as a race with a few phenotypical similarities as my actual race...
I'm mixed Japanese and caucasian, and I've been asked several times if I'm native lol. My mom (100% Japanese) is guessed to be indigenous first, asian second, and her indigenous coworker is often told she looks asian. I guess we just look alike 😄
My family is very Caucasian but my daughter has pretty almond eyes and was accused of trying to pass as white in high school. Her teacher would also argue with her insisting that she’s at least a quarter Japanese because so was his wife and she has some of the same facial features. You’re darned if you do, darned if you don’t. Just be yourself and be proud of who you are. Don’t let anyone get you down, you are perfect!
i know plenty of people from eastern europe who are white, but you can very clearly see central asian ancestry. eyes that are more slanted and "flatter" faces are very common among eastern european white people.
@@Jeannette311 Caucasian as in American White or as in actually Caucasus? Bc pleaaaaase American white people, stop saying you're Caucasian! It's an outdated category and people from the Caucasus are considered POC, it's so frustrating
Had someone accuse me of Asian fishing over my double wing liner. I’m indigenous, white & black. There isn’t an eyeliner on this or any other known planet that’s gonna make me look East Asian. It’s cosmetics, not a magic wand. My liner is trying to make my itty bitty little eyes look human sized.
I always wonder how many people fighting to defend certain races are from that actual race. Like Im latino and I always hear people saying what I should find offensive related to my culture, when me and other people honestly do not care. So its like people being offended for us when there is nothing offensive going on.
Rarely bruh, those "normal" Americans thought it was offensive for us and got mad about it while we were out here saying things like, "haha! Nice costume brother!" 😂 I'm Asian too, so seeing things like this makes me go, "bro, just do whatever you want, you have free will lmao" since they keep making big fuss about it lol and seeing them keeps trying to ruin our entertainment media (especially Anime and Manga) by pushing their agenda is infuriating fr. (At least don't be like 3:46, that shit is diabolical to do without actual knowledge 💀)
Yeah I'm also Latino or at least mixed with it as I'm also half white but people always try to fight on behalf of other people's races and think "these people of this particular race must be offended by this so I'm gonna defend them on their behalf" but like 90% of the time it's just some white dude/person getting offended for Mexicans and it's like we could care less because latinos learn to have a thick skin from a young age and can learn to take a joke unlike some people who clearly can't. I see people wear sombreros and do I get offended, nope. Is it a bit stereotypical to assume all Mexicans or Latinos wear sombreros or ponchos or eat tacos or eat tortillas or eat spicy food or eat frijoles or are full blown brown or that they all fully know Spanish and speak it all the time. Plus also have mariachi band music that they dance around to doing the salsa like nope not all Mexicans/Latinos do those things or like those things. It's a stereotype and it can be true for some things or some people but not everyone and yet people who are again most likely white people or not Mexican/Latino themselves will get offended on our behalf for crap we don't care about and are literally ok with. I mean I literally eat at Taco bell and it's white as all heck not even authentic at all but I don't get offended that the food isn't fully authentic like girl I already knew that but i still like it anyways. Plus I see so many people make fun of Mexicans in movies, shows, books, games, real life, UA-cam maybe for a skit or a joke and it's not meant to be taken seriously or personally like why should I get offended by things that don't matter. It's all stupid. I don't fight on behalf of other people's races as that's also stupid. I just live and take everything as a joke and I laugh because laughing and not caring is good for the soul and frankly more people should do it more often. I don't know why white people get all butthurt for Asians or any other race when they can't even relate to them so why do they even care so much? 🤷🏽♀️😑
8:45 I feel this way too much. Half chinese is the last thing people will guess I am. I often get told to "get out, we don't want white opinions" when I talk about Asian fishing or issues POC face. Online certain photos can make me look white. Irl, no one treats me like im white.
I feel this--I'm half Chinese and half Italian. I'm not white passing, but also not fitting into the general aesthetic of Chinese or Italian x_x it makes me feel like I don't fit in anywhere (cousins on both sides aren't like me b/c they are either full chinese or full italian)
The way people treat mixed people online is low-key insane to me, Irl I have no problems with people (except for people being racist to me for being black😅) but online everyone seems to have a problem with mixed people no matter what we do, i don’t look white at all but people online will hear that I’m 50% white and assume i have straight blonde hair and blue eyes or something…
I have monolids, and when I was only 18, a hoard of anonymous anime pfp accounts attacked me. The harassment was so bad, because everyone accused me of asian fishing because I like cute things and stuff and because I have epicanthal folds. It... Was a really hard time. (Tw ahead), they were all pushing me to end my life even. And I almost did. The harassment was horrendous.
I don't look asian enough for asian people and I don't look white enough for white people. What do I do? Ah, I don't care and try to luck out on my next 50/50 gacha pull!
Yeah as a fellow mixed person I'm half Mexican and half white and maybe a tad native American too I think and I'm not Mexican enough to the Mexicans or white enough for the white people and frankly I could care less because I'm my own race I'm a mixture of races which means I'm my own category and I frankly don't care if I'm not "blank" enough. When you're mixed you can never win in life so just continue to live and be yourself and screw anybody else's opinion and whatever else because none of it even remotely matters.
as an Italian and Chinese person who has curly hair, pretty pale skin, non hooded eyes and a lack of fitting into the Chinese stereotypes Ive gotten a lot of "Asian Fishing" comments in the past just for speaking about my Chinese culture and it pisses me off so bad.
9:50 why don’t THEY bring nori to school as a snack in 2007 and have all their peers tell them it smells like poop and tell them that they eat poop so now they can never bring food in a public place without being worried it smells “weird” WHERES THAT PART
yea I think you made a really good point on how a lot of people who are "asian fishing" just decide to ignore the existence of western asia and only focus on the beauty standards of places like china and japan instead even though those standards are already wildly blown out of proportion by the media and generalisation. idk just something thats been going on quite a bit when it comes to this topic of asian culture
I'm gonna be honest...nobody else's make-up has ever affected my life. If I feel cringe because of somebody's style, I know that's a 'me' issue about 99% of the time (I always allow for exceptions lol).
I’m of Finnish descent and I have naturally very hooded eyes. Thank god I don’t have a large social media presence or people might accuse me of Asian-fishing 🙄 EDIT: Just to clarify, this isn’t actually something I’m worried about happening. I’m obviously very white (I literally have naturally blonde hair and blue eyes). I was just trying to point out how ridiculous it is for people online to assume that any non-Asian person with naturally hooded eyes/mono-lids is Asian-fishing, which is partly what this video is about.
Same here and it's certainly not getting any better with age either. I guess I'm lucky to look _very_ Finnish in general, since I'm a big fan of the cat eye liner style and no one has ever accused me of asian fishing.
well the internet has taught me that a lot of people, to this very day, still accuse us of being Asian so hey, maybe we'd get a free pass! (I say that with *extreme* sarcasm. it's amazing the kind of bigoted racist crap you hear from people who haven't even stepped foot on Finnish soil)
if that's you in your pfp, i think you'd be fine cause you have very downturned eyes. these crazy people seem to attack non-asian people who have naturally upturned eyes or do their makeup with upturned eyeliner. and as an asian (specifically east and southeast) i find that so ridiculous because upturned eyeliner has been a trend for so long. it even has a name, cateye! oh and i love your hair :)
Neat, someone said I was Asian fishing a little while ago, never bothered to look it up, and then you talk about it; I was just confused because while I'm part Chinese I don't like handling live bait. I've just been doing my eyeliner the same same way for over 10 years now
can I just say it’s always so refreshing to see this channel normally refer to asia as it is, ie the continent, and not just east asia. especially when so many on the internet forget southeast/south/central/west asians in the conversations surrounding being asian
Hair keeps getting better and better. I will say when it comes to make up and face looks I've seen, I don't understand the popularity of the puffy under eyes where you look like you haven't slept for 10 days. I know it's supposed to be "cute", but. They just look exhausted.
I’m an East Asian woman and the startling realization that several conversations I had *AS A CHILD WITH ADULTS* were about people fetishizing East Asian women is so gross 🤢. And I’m not even considered pretty by East Asian or western standards, I don’t even want to know what people say to East Asian people who fit the beauty standards/stereotypes they expect from East Asians
@@Fen_Fox YOOOO I was happily talking to a colleague about my girlfriend and she started talking about which mixed asians looked the hottest. Like dog first off the one she landed on just looks like the non asian parent 90% of the time but lighter and second WTF she said white asians look the worst, to me the white guy with an japanese girlfriend. I hadn't even brought up anything like getting married. Like its the worst on youtube dating videos. I know a guy who got fluent in japanese and moved to japan and is trying to find a wife, at 35 by club and barhopping in like young people party districts. Dog doesn't know the first thing about the cultural norms for his age or anything hes doing over there but he managed to get fluent. God I got so mad when i was trying to explain that she doesn't like taking pictures of her face, its a whole thing like the emoji censor thing asian women in asian countries tend to do, and my colleague was trying to insinuate she's ugly or a catfish, like I just showed her the pic my gf gave me the green light to introduce my gf to friends and family with and you can see her face, what's wrong with people? I found a few spots to subtly jab my colleague with like real sleeper insults but god it wasn't a good time to pull her aside and talk to her about it, im currently her (boss? supervisor?) too and she felt comfortable saying this crazy stuff about my gf and asian women to my face.
I will put it this way, I think it is wonderful that different cultures can be explored learned and celebrated. It is ok to style yourself however you want, as long as it is not malicious or insensitive. Oh and stop bullying people for doing their makeup the way they want, the trend will end up changing eventually anyways.
I’m a white man who wears no makeup and I’ve been called offensive things that are usually targeted towards East Asian people because I’m pale and have naturally almond shaped eyes and dark hair. I AM LITERALLY 0% ASIAN I AM AS WHITE AS YOU GET MY MOM IS IRISH AND MY DAD IS GERMAN HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN
You've made me want to get a perm. You're hair looks so amazing...I'm jealous 😂. Also he is so damn close to a million subs. I'm hoping you get there by the end of the year ❤
As someone with eyes that are slightly closer together, I wear slightly winged eyeliner to mitigate that and no one notices. So much of makeup is simply emphasizing your features and it's not deep unless you really go out of your way to make it that way.
brooo thank youuu!!! i’ve seen a lot of accusations like these to my friends and jfashion and jbeauty community. back in my day asianfishing it was claiming to have asian dna and fetishizing the culture while doing it. again i can’t say what is wrong or right but ppl bombarding with hate just for liking a culture or cute things isn’t it imo
11:14 this is so true, I'm from Europe (no Asian ancestry at all) and i have eyes like this (not brown, but the stupid type of green that's barely green) . It's so hard to do makeup that suits me and I've been called an asianfisher by my sister's kpoppie friend
Woww I never realized just how crazy this whole topic is to think about. Especially, concerning looking like another race. Even though i’m a black woman, I get a lot of comments asking if im blasian, a pacific islander, and/or middle eastern. Particularly when I wear my hair straight or naturally wavy, its almost always someone trying to TELL ME what I am. Even after I state I’m simply black (okkk I did find out im a third scandinavian via ancestry DNA, so that’s probably where my complexion/eyes come from), its like people accuse me of lying or assume me to be something else. I tend to where my hair now in very distinctive “black hairstyles”, such as braids and twists, to reduce this (also I genuinely love them haha). Which I think sucks, as I want to be able to express myself fully as a black woman - without being seen as potentially asian-fishing or claiming to be something I KNOW I’m not. Also, it’s weird bc I can tell people (guys mainly) almost like the fact that I look racially ambiguous - which is both offensive and disgusting to fetishize in general 🫠😂. It’s definitely made it easier to weed out men who only want to date a woman who doesn’t look “too black” for them!
To the people who think Asia only has Japan and Korea let me cp a list from google on how many countries OTHER than Japan and Korea are in Asia Afghanistan Armenia Azerbaijan Bahrain Bangladesh Bhutan Brunei Cambodia China Cyprus Georgia India Indonesia Iran Iraq Japan Jordan Kazakhstan Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Malaysia Maldives Mongolia Myanmar (Burma) Nepal North Korea Oman Pakistan Palestine Philippines Qatar Russia (partly in Asia) Saudi Arabia Singapore South Korea Sri Lanka Syria Taiwan Tajikistan Thailand Timor-Leste (East Timor) Turkey (partly in Asia) Turkmenistan United Arab Emirates Uzbekistan Vietnam Yemen
its so annoying to say you're asian on tiktok and being asked for proof, girl being asian is NOT rare, asia is one of the most populated continents. and when they ask for proof it's so annoying because i am NOT going to show my face because you dont believe that i am asian. holy shit omg
9:00 dude that shit had to hurt. im half asian half white as well and growing up in the us (based on her accent im guessing she did as well (or possibly canada?)) i always felt like i didn't have any claim to that side of myself, it almost felt like stealing just to say i was asian/korean. someone saying that to me would probably devastate me tbh
As an Australian I live in a really strange place. We’re a western country surrounded by Kpop Sanrio made in China Korean and Tokyo fashion kangaroos koalas And incredible food! There’s no appropriation here. It’s all proximity
Yeah I live in Sydney’s ‘Koreatown’ and no one here gives a damn about people dressing in Asian styles and liking traditionally Asian things as long as you don’t smack talk their favourite idol groups lol
i’m white and neurodivergent; kpop and learning about different cultures (not just asian ones) are a couple of my hyperfixations and i’m always so paranoid telling someone it’s something i enjoy bc i’m scared they’re gonna think i’m trying to like make myself asian when that’s absolutely not my goal at all 🫠
hi ig im asian version of yours im krn neurodivergent that luvs American/LatAm/French stuffs and ppl tell me why u tryna be foreigner 🥲😂💀 so i can feel you and i don't think that's a problem at all for liking other cultures srsly
Man, I'm neurodivergent and a solid 1/4 Korean and I still get paranoid someone is gonna give me shit for making lighthearted joke about me liking soy sauce a lot. There is just so much vitriol is terrifies me.
I’m East Asian and neurodivergent, and I totally support enjoying other cultures so long as you respect it and not do whatever the hell the people shown in the vid do. I will admit I do get wary when people say they’re into Chinese, Korean, or Japanese culture, I’ve gotten way too many weird comments about East Asian people not to be, but I can tell real fast when people genuinely are interested in the language and culture and not just fetishize it. And if people do take offense to that, they’re not people worth interacting with.
My Filipina friend keeps getting asked if she’s Latina/Mexican 😅 apparently a very common question towards many Filipino people. One person even tried to correct her insisting that she must be Mexican like sir are you telling me you don’t think she knows her own race/ethnicity 😭
@@Fen_FoxFilipinas do the same tho so they can't talk. The amount of time I was called a liar and self h8 bc I told that no I wasn't filipina. Like they knew my race better than me.
@@Fen_FoxFilipinos men think it's funny that I look like their ethnicity to them while Filipinas get aggressive and violent. Had an elderly one follow me and argue for 20 min.
imo theres only so many ways to do eyeliner and a lot of these styles have existed since makeup has with different names in different eras. i think that we can share different makeup techniques around the world is really amazing. its great to be able to look at different styles to find what suits you best we just need to be respectful of each other
I have epicanthic folds and darkest brown eyes. Watching videos on makeup for hooded eyes helped me (a mostly European) a ton. I struggled with eye makeup for years. Sharing information is good!
being asian in life is hard like some kid thought Asia was a country and not a continent and said I wasn't Chinese but i was Asian like chinese wasnt asian
I still remember reading a comment thread where someone was insisting korea wasn’t part of Asia bc Asia was a different country 😅 with how some people are, I genuinely could not tell if it was rage bait or someone who forgot what the continents were
@@JamesCunningham-j4y one time when i was in middle or high school, a white girl came up to me out of nowhere and asked "so like are you asian or chinese?" (i'm filipino-american)
The thing with Lerowillberunningaround being accused of Asian fishing was wild because like… she’s so Korean her descriptions were in Korean and back when that video blew up I remember seeing a tiktok account claiming she “used google translate” because “if you reverse translate her descriptions you can barely understand them”. And I swear I thought I was going crazyyyyy because the reason they couldn’t translate properly it’s because Lero’s Korean if so fluent it’s full of slang and onomatopeias or other common use of their mothertongue, like when you say wassup instead of what’s up. That account vanished as soon as that video became somewhat relevant but it was so crazy to think someone put that much effort just to lie and blame a Korean if not actually being from said country.
Wow. None of my reasons for not having Tik Tok involved my ethnicity before, but now I know I'd be torn apart on that platform. I'm south Asian, Scottish and nordic. I've got my south Asian parent's eyes and hair, and my white parent's nose and skin tone. I used to get bullied for looking like "an Asian girl who's had nose and eye surgery". I think I'd get accused of asianfishing even without makeup on! Why are we backsliding into defining people with ethnic clichés, instead of accepting that people are infinitely variable?
I’m not Asian but I have almond and turned upward eyes so sometimes I get the comment ‘you look Korean.’ It’s really uncomfortable and when I try to tell people it’s not okay to say that people go ‘you should take it as a compliment’ 😕
I had a friend with blond hair, blue eyes, and looked like Barbie. I just assumed she was white until I saw her mom one day, who was very clearly Asian. (I believe her mother was 1/2 and she was 1/4). Incidentally, that was also the day I was introduced to Hi-Chews by my friend! This was shortly before they hit the American market, so the little packages had Japanese writing on them. Overall, you don’t really know anyone’s race(s) until you ask.
But she is still white, so its not the best example 😭 what in the one drop rule is this 🤣🤣 she is a white girl with Asian heritage, 1/4 compared to 3/4 of probably white. And she obviously looks white.
@@kateemma22no it doesn’t negate her Asian heritage but acting surprised or shocked that someone who is only 1/4 Asian and 3/4 white looking white is kind of silly.
A quarter is significantly more than a drop, and it's kind of ridiculous to treat quarter-mixed ppl like they're the same as those who play up a ~5% mix (@ that one commenter). I'm 1/4 korean myself and it really depends on the person as to whether I 'look asian'. I've had a lot of people straight up ask me or weirdly assume which asian country I'm from (this older white dude customer went "arigato, right?" at the end of the checkout 😭 and I've had other odd stuff like that happen). For others I probably pass as fully white. Trust that a lot of people already contend with their 'not white enough, but not x enough either' mixed identity without others being weird about it too! Regardless, other people's perception doesn't change mine or anyone else's background.
6:50 Girl that's called a cat eye liner. Eyeliner is DESIGNED AND MEANT to change the shape of your eye. Assuming that a specific eyeliner style is intended to make an eye look "Asian" feels racially ignorant, like you said Asian people don't just have one eye shape. Eyeliner has existed in countless cultures ever since humans decided to start applying pigment to their faces. Gatekeeping any eyeliner style as only for one race, only indicative of one race, or only intended to emulate a specific race feels racist as fuck to me.
Im Filipino and have been mistaken for being Mexican so many times and when I do correct them I've had people say that I don't looks Asian enough and stuff. Whenever I wear aegyo or douyin makeup people ask if I'm Asian fishing. Makeup isn't supposed to be gatekept by cultures, it's meant to be shared and I'm literally Asian. Im not trying to claim that I'm Korean I'm just doing makeup that I like. It just sucks because I'm just trying to be me, I can't change my race or ethnicity. And if people tell me I'm trying to make my eyes look the certain way most Koreans make them I literally would just walk away bc my eyes are almond shaped. Its so ridiculous 😭
People kept saying I was asian fishing and trying to look east asian as a south asian person because my skin was to light and my makeup was inspired by xiaohongshu make-up style , when I have never claimed to be east asain at all. So I had to delete all my tiktoks.
I wear a smiliar type of make up as her in 11:35 because i like glitter & it fits my eyes PERFECTLY ive tried multipe style or eye make ups over YEARS and this was the only one really fitting and me going like wow my make up is make uping..
Didn’t even know this existed, thanks for teaching me yet again how stupid people can be i guess, and i’m sorry you and anyone else has to go through that.
there's a clear difference in context between people who just wanted to try modern asian make up trends, people who shaped their entire look, personality, mannerisms, lifestyle, and even manifestations to "become an asian", and people who accessorize the asian look by covering their natural features to make themselves look asian. the difference between the three is that the 1st one is not supposedly an issue. ironically despite the false accusations on the 1st people, the 2nd and 3rd are seemingly being praised in tiktok and ig more.
I'm so happy you covered this! I'm a white person, so I cannot speak on any of this. But I am an individual who enjoys Asian culture in media. I'm currently learning Japanese and Mandarin (along with Spanish and I wish to learn Gaelic and French, but those are besides the point.) I am also an anime fan. But with my fascination in East Asian culture since I was young always worried me I'd come off wrong. But I was so interested in this take! It was somewhat reassuring But I'd love to hear the takes of any other Asian people, these discussions are so important! :D
I have lived in China and Japan and have worked with MANY SEA people. Everyone of them was happy whenever I want to learn their language and about their culture. They have always been very happy to help me whenever I had trouble understanding anything. In fact, I was forced to wear a kimono and dance at a Japanese festival (I cannot dance and didn't want to wear the kimono lol). The old ladies loved making me dance (their freaking stamina is unreal). China and Japan also were very keen on getting me to try every food they could think of. Honestly, most people just wanted to share their way of living with others. As long as you don't pretend to be someone or something you aren't, I don't think you'll have an issue.
as long as you're respectful to asian people and don't claim the culture as yours, you're good honestly the fact that you even worry about this shows that you are genuine and want to be as respectful as you possibly can
Man... I'm so glad that I live in Northern Europe and don't have tiktok, because I'd have a stroke if I had to interact with people saying stuff like that or leaving comments like these unironically. I don't think some of these people think about what their point of view says about their attitude and the way they view other people. What kind of upbringing would you need to have, in order to think that not only are you the arbiter of what is good and right in the world, but you also decide (based on absolutely nothing) what other people think and feel about things that might affect them? The lack of self awareness is pungent.
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"It's more racist to assume every asian person has eyes like this." SO TRUE. It's like people forget that non asians can have monolids and the like.
Honestly the self appointed Asian-fishing cultural appropriation police have circled all the way around to being straight up racist. It's just segregation with extra steps.
Yup, by the time I was dating an asian guy, everyone said I baited him because I have slightly "sleepy eyes" because I have a lot of fat in my cheeks. No, I didn't even wore make up.
These people would lose their minds if they found out about Pacific Islanders
This is so true, I'm mixed (but I could not pass as white, I look a lot like my mom) and I have double eyelids, but my mom (who is fully Asian) also has double eyelids that look just like mine.
@@randomthoughts6680 What??? That's such a weird thing to be accused of
If someone tells me that I'm Asian fishing and I'm not holding a sea bass attached to a rod, I'm not listening
Asian fishing? I'm pretty sure that's called whaling.
@@angusmcnay5449 they have sea bass in Asia too
Sea bass? It's at least a C+!
sea bass?? why not an arapaima
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Let's not forget that most of these asian-fishing accusations are probably coming from chronically online 15 yr olds who think they're doing the asian community a favor
so like most "discourse" made by chronically online white privileged teenagers
It's funny cuz I'd tell people "hey, I have had several asians tell me people are going overboard and it's not asian-fishing" to then hear I was a monster 🥴 Like sorry I don't listen to the internet only, full of 10-15yos?
They've been taught that they can just get offended on people's behalf without consequences.
Fr because no one with a job has time like that. I am begging ipad parents, stop giving them the wifi password.
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It's so stupid because they're getting offended on behalf of people that genuinly don't care about whatever the problem is, if it's an actual problem then asian people will talk about it themselves. They don't need random teenagers to "help"
I’m half Black and half Asian and as an adult a coworker accused me of Asian fishing saying I had been doing it for years (in middle school and high school). I was like huh? What are you talking about and he said like, “for instance, WHY do you your makeup that way? You are trying to look asian so hard” and then I had to tell him my eye makeup doesn’t make me ‘look’ Asian. I look Asian because I am. 🙄
I would report him to HR for harassment and sheer stupidity. People lost the ability to mind their business and it's disturbing.
Hahaha, wow 😂
He would die if he knew that a lot of black people have “Asian looking” eyes. Specifically those native from Africa depending on region. And I’m half African myself I’ve seen and met plenty of people with these features. People have such stereotypical perceptions about other people and cultures that they end up being racist themselves 💀
@@eyesofwater123 that’s a great idea! I wish I would have thought of that back then. Management at the time was racist too, so the only way to go would have been directly to HR. If only I had the presence of mind back then
@@Tua009 yea if only he knew, his head would have definitely exploded. One of the other things that he said to me that I didn’t mention before was that he also sighted that I had been seen ‘hanging out’ with some Asians before. ( To Further justify the allegation of Asian Fishing)…Like what does that even mean? How is that suppose to be any different from hanging out with black or white or whatever race of friends? It’s just stupid. But even when I told him I was half Asian he responded with, “No you’re not.” And “prove it”. Which of course I told him believe it or don’t believe it, I don’t have to prove sh*t to you”
i got told i was asian fishing for saying im asian. i’m kazakhstani, im central asian 😭 like pls just let me live
Hey Kazakshtani, hope you are doing well.
Got told i was asain fishing when I was wearing trad goth makeup. Im not quite sure people know what asain looks like.
that is crazy😭😭😭😭 im korean and goth so that is literally the weirdest thing i’ve ever heard, i’m so sorry you had to go through that😭😭💗
You should just keep going and finish off the look as if you are a Kabuki villain. Give the haters what they want!
@srose1088 i had to look it up, but im dead. It would be so easy to mix trad goth with it. Haha, im crying. Why would it work so well. Were they the first goths. Help!!!
@ranlee2155 apparently the sharp triangle for the inner corner eye and then the hard flick triangle up for the end of the eye. "MAkEs Me LoOk AsAiN. Which asian does it make me look like. I'm not so sure on that one. Gotta get out more, I guess.
@@UwUarchy0 I think it's because that style of eyeliner (if it's what I'm thinking of) is great for monolids. _But_ it wasn't created for monolids, it was a style that existed and just happened to suit monolids well
I remember seeing people on Twitter losing their mind when TXT debuted saying Kai was pretending to be Asian as if the bro isn’t literally half Asian.
bro people hate on kai ALL THE TIME it’s pisses me off 😭 i’ve been a moa since late 2019 and huening has ALWAYS been my ult bias, seeing all the hate he’s gotten throughout
the years has been too much until recently when people did a complete 180 ever since huening kai “become hot”. people are so frustrating
What really? As if HYBE would've debuted a koreaboo lol 😂
Yeah um isn't Kai like half Asian/ half German? Like the half part is still valid it just means he's mixed maybe not fully that race but he's not pretending to be Asian either he is but only partly like um what??? 🤷🏽♀️😑🤦🏽♀️ Also Kai is my bias like he's so cute regardless of whatever he is mixed with I could care less he's still cute and I rest my case. 😅
Same with Danielle from newjeans I think. I hear she gets less love sometimes because she’s half Aussie. So…😞
so according to them, a 100% white man and an 100% asian woman made a 100% white kid? 😭
i’ll never forget how i got accused of asian fishing on tiktok in 2021 because i wore elongated eyeliner, had a hatemob of comments leaving derogatory slurs on every single one of my videos, finding my highschool and trying to contact my family members, and demanding i apologize. i’m a black woman with sisterlocks. WHO was I asianfishing.
edit: i also want to add that being able to “asianfish” would require some element of racial ambiguity which is a privilege i do not have. the accusation implied that i was trying to be something other than black felt insulting. it also implied that all asian people have the same eye shape which is a whole other issue
That sounds awful
Geez, that sounds horrible! I hope you’re ok after that! 🙏🙏❤️
@@ri9578 covid Tiktok was wild
Its amazing they'd come after you for eyeliner but no one bats an eye when Asians or white ppl get fillers a surgery and perm their hair to look black🙃🙃
u were the fish babe those ppl were racist asl
I have slavic hooded eyes that are pretty slanted, and the Chinese and Japanese cosplay girlies really saved my eyeliner in the 2010s. Never would have figured out how to make eyeliner work for me without their help 🙏🏻
I have the same. Do you have any tips for a resource or tutorials? Thank you!
same! i remember thinking that only black people could have hooded eyes and i was so scared to try eye makeup for hooded eyes because i didn’t want to culturally appropriate anything
Real
@@lyra2282 honestly, it was the wild west. I just looked for Tumblr and YT lolita and cosplay makeup tutorials back in like... 2012? So maybe try looking for that and then just adapt the eyeliner part?
@@mushroup as a black person, I'm glad you don't think that anymore!! 😭
"you're asian-fishing" when someone wears a makeup style from East Asia is SO close to "all asians look the same to me"
to assume someone of "asian fishing" (an accusation of racism) with no evidence is to basically admit they only see one way an asian person can look (which is an act of racism)
Exactly
And sometimes just because a person looks "asian" It does not mean that person have any asian heritage whatsoever but those people loove to asume .
I don’t know if it’s racism or just being uninformed (pretty sure uninformed) I can see why they think that.
@@applefarm6126 racism usually has its roots in being uneducated and uninformed
Yes like South Asia getting told they are Indian just cause they “ look Indian” even though they are not Indian
This also happens a lot with Indigenous creators online. People expect us to be armed with the entirety of our genetic and ethnic history and list off nation and clan names (as if that isn't basically doxxing ourselves most of the time), otherwise we're accused of being Pretendians. Conveniently, this mostly happens to Afroindigenous folk like me, pale-skinned indigenous folk, and Indigenous people who just aren't trotting out regalia for every TikTok or look like they're from the Plains region.
People seem to use their broad ignorance to bludgeon others under the pretense of helping a minority group, but in their own way are reinforcing stereotypes and causing headaches for us (and themselves!) instead.
REAL! My own sister got fooled into thinking my family wasn't 'as indigenous' as we thought we were, while I'm not super duper pale I am pastier than what some people expect me to be. It just feels weird y'know, having someone else ask for your super private details simply because you don't align with their stereotype.
Omg thank you!!!!!!
yes but ywall are mixed and just have a hard time admitting it too like afro indians but then again if ywall was to say you was mixed you'd pribbly be called waterd down and not real indians just for being mixed so i get it
@@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottodwhy do you talk like this? I’m genuinely baffled.
This! My grandmother is full indigenous and she is pale, but a lot of the people on our reserve are pale and some with coloured hazel or green eyes. Peoples first assumptions is that she is eastern Asian and not indigenous at all. Her children (aunties/my father) have darker skin. Genetics work in wonderful ways that make us all unique.
Cat eye is a makeup look that has been happening since at least the 80s, probably even longer.
It goes back to Ancient Egypt. It was popularized in modern times with the invention of liquid eyeliner in the 1950s
Yes. The 1380s BCE with Egyptians Queen Nefertiti. Then in the 1920s, when Tut’s tomb was opened there was a resurgence in everything Egypt and women started copying that “cat eyeliner” from ancient Egypt. Look up Josephine Baker. Then in the 1960s there was another real resurgence with the addition of false eyelashes. Thick cat eye liner was a convenient way to cover up the base of the falsies. Look up Sophia Loren or Marilyn Monroe. And who’s to say there weren’t other cultures who used that style between ancient Egypt and the 1920s? I only have rudimentary makeup history knowledge and those are the ones I could think up off the top of my head.
Ummm I lived the 80s and no. We did not do cat eye
@@havanaj8467 You're completely unfamiliar with goth and alt communities in the 80s, i guess?
@@havanaj8467yeah we did
Goth alt and punk rock kids certainly did
"we're confusing all the wasians, who are already confused enough" real 😭
REAL BRO
Lmao I’m 25% Filipino and very white passing, I feel these people.
@@flowernavelLAMP SPOTTED
also why pink/cute = asian? why asian = kawaii? why asian = anime? they'll bash anyone who even contains a trace of weeb and forget to look in the mirror
I don't even understand why we're pretending the doll eye look has literally never been done before East Asian internet trends and Douyin invented the concept of cateye liquid liner.
ancient egyptians did it in the -4000s
@chegu613 And doll eyes with "Manga lashes" was done in the 20s and 60s and white to make bigger eyes was also 60s and we were all doing cateye liner in the alt scene in the early-mid 2000s and the 80s had a sharper version (plus 80s and 90s rockabilly did it) and....
Like literally wut
Oh Punk and Trad Goth have versions from the late 70s and 80s too and Marilyn Monroe in the 50s. The more I think about this the more it's just like "this has been perpetually in style since forever"
The fake eyelashes white eyeliner round eye "dolly look" and a lot of japanese cutesy styles like mini skirts were actually popularized by 60s western fashion and Twiggy who was super popular as a model in Japan and introduced those kind of styles. It reminds me of when I saw an asian woman on twitter demand white people to stop wearing japanese fashion and to start wearing our own historical fashions, I wear lolita so that statement was so ridiculous to me in a roundabout way...... all cultures influence one another ever since the world became more globalized
@@tenneluna6948 Shelly Duvall also had some looks that definitely if you didn't know the photo was almost half a century old would straight up just look like J Fashion to the modern eye.
Yeah, this is what lets you know all the comments are by 12 year olds. These kids think they invented low rise jeans and crop tops too 🙄
Sounds like a ton of people with too much time being offended on behalf of Asians. I recommend 15-30 minutes of going outside and touching grass before and after a meal.
i sure envy them in this economy for being free kids, i want the luxury to go and hate on randos online without worry about money
Reminds me of that one time Twitter users bullied someone named "Mei" because it's an "Asian name."
...But the user WAS Asian. Just not East Asian. Like, bro... some names from other cultures are just super popular worldwide. The name "Naomi" is of both Hebrew and Japanese origin, but you still see people outside of those ethnicities with that name. In turn, many Asian people have European names, but you don't see anyone saying, "You're just pretending to be French for the aesthetic!"
The difference is that asians in europe get bullied for having ethnic names thats why they change it to an american or european name. And also more job opportunities
Oh, hero hei made a video on it.
@@iamyyasmeen
ew hero hei
@@yeehaw7896 did he do something? I am not subscribed to him and just stumble upon his content sometimes (And I also don't have twitter🗿).
I have a chinese name, I got it from my chinese teacher, and I used it in an online game because I like it so much, resembles my personality so well. Yeah I got some angry comments to, even though I told them I am not chinese, i got it from my chinese, chinese teacher, so maybe if a chinese people honorably give it to me, I can use it. No. Haters everywhere, lol.
Another thing people seem to forget or just ignore is that not everything is focused around ethnicity alone. You can be born in Asia, be raised in Asia and live there your entire life and otherwise look "white" because quess what? Asia is BIG and doesn't stop at East Asia, and there are a lot of different people living there.
Imagine being called a "fisher" because you dare to do something what's simply popular in the region you live in but Karen from New York decided to be offended on the behalf of a hypothetical Asian person.
(rant from Central Asia over)
I was thinking West Asian and some Middle Eastern people!
Where in Central Asia???
What
These TikTok people are so tiring, like, the girlies have been wearing eyeliner long before you were even born 😭
I also have a friend who has very hooded eyes, everyone keeps thinking she is Asian or mixed while she is 100% white..
having hooded eyes can be such a nightmare when it comes to eyeliner, like sorry we literally cannot apply it in the same way i guess. (i also have hooded eyes).
I couldn't agree more. Say it with me folks - "Liking something from a different ethnicity as yours is NOT fishing for some kind of validation from them." My goodness are people not allowed to put eyeliner a different way now! Some of these people give me intense second-hand embarrassment.
I started getting into Japanese street fashion when I was thirteen in the ancient year of 2003. I just distinctly remember trying to do my make up like the visual kei bands I listened (and still listen to). I got severely made fun of for having having my visual kei magazines on me at school. Literally kids behind me wouldn’t point at the dudes and yell “GAY!”
Fast-forward to the pandemic era of TikTok when I was showing a tutorial on how I did my droopy eye make up for a visual kei look and I stg some 13 year-old kid came into my comment section and accused me of Asian fishing and I almost thought about just going off-grid and Ted Kazczynski-ing it. But I got my composure and told that little twerp to take a walk off a nanometer pier because I wasn’t about to relive that judgement again lmaooo. It’s quite insane how things have changed.
i bet you look so cool in visual kei !!
As an eastern asian that had lived in japan for sometime, go for it if you like certain style inspired/mimicking their culture. You'll probably receive compliments from them. (I did!) Really tho, it isn't as deep as these chronically online kids make it to be. Keep rocking that V-Key look ❤
fr one step forward, two steps back
Me too! I even had my hair cut similar to Shou from A9. If I wore cat eye makeup people told me I looked like I was trying to look Asian. I have small hooded eyes so eyeliner kind of disappears. They knew I liked Japanese music and I lived in a very white area. A lot of people were mad I liked Japanese music at all.
OMG, same experience from around 2009...
Im half chinese and I'm so happy someone has finally talked more about this happening. Its been so weird from watching asian culture become popular and trendy here in the West. It weirds me out when i talk with people who used to tease and pick on me for liking asian stuff and clothes now talking to me about kpop idols, anime, and boba like ive never heard of these things before. It gives me whiplash
Why would people tease you for liking things from your culture or your country like ok i understands that kpop things sometimes this stans or fans tend to go to far
I think somewhere along the way the crazy marketing teams for kpop realized that just like America makes movies for the Asian market to make more money, they could also export the crazy obsessive fan trend to the west to make more money, and now there's been a weird massive shift. (Which oddly enough plays a lot into the west fetishizing "exotic" 🤢 people)
@@joyeetaghosh2209 cz sadly ppl bully others and put them down
My husband is Chinese and they always make it weird. They start talking about Japan traditions and stuff and sometimes sexualize it. My brother who is 18 keeps asking if I know how to make certain foods that are Japanese. Husband had an ex who kept talking about him as if he’s Korean. It’s weird.
I'm 100% white, but, well--i started watching anime at 6, and i got into Japanese culture, followed by Korean and Chinese--i joke that I'm a weeb but with full understanding of how absolutely gross and toxic a lot of weebs can be. So obviously my experience is in no way comparable to yours, but a lot of aspects of Asian culture have been very normal to me for a very long time. I'm 30 years old and in my lifetime it has been baffling to watch people's attitudes towards various cultures change, particularly watching Japanese culture come over and suddenly become this elitist thing, with all these white people acting like experts. I've had my own brother and his wife mock me for preferring nigiri over the "exciting" Americanized rolls they prefer. I've eaten rambutans and canned lychee and gotten disgusted looks only for them to be telling me about this cool fruit they found online a few years later.
It has been wild to watch, even just as this third party viewer who just likes to learn about other cultures. Intellectually i understand like, oh the unknown is scary. But really, what unknown? It's just people. People from the other side of the world so of course they're different, but people all the same. I suppose I'm proud that i exposed myself to other cultures and proud of my upbringing that I'm...tolerant of differences? But gods. Could the bar be any lower? It's infuriating every time i hear of someone bullied as a child for their culture, because it's unacceptable that basic tolerance is so rare that not even one person was around to beat the snot out of those racist bullies. Because I'm thrilled to say i absolutely never let that happen around me and it's baffling that so many did. I once grabbed a boy and ah--i didn't actually say anything i just death glared him, then very loud told my friend to let me know if anyone said anything like that to her again lmao. I was pretty notorious so, well. Hopefully she would've told me if anyone did. It's so...incomprehensible to me that so many people choose complacency.
Ugh. Anyway. Hopefully this isn't like--i don't want to be talking over you or anything. Just....even as some dumb little weeb, I've seen this absolutely atrocious behavior as people go from negative racism to....positive racism? With a boatload of cultural appropriation and all sorts new and exciting grossness that i hope is at least marginally better but like. It's still pretty freaking bad. And they'll be having boba and sushi and then start talking shirt about Japan or something like. Be so for real right now!!!!! Or they'll infantize and entire culture like they're all innocent woowoo babies!!!! Everyone's just people why is this so hard!!!!!!!
But don't worry guys. Supreme court said there's no more racism!
Everybody nowadays reminds me of a bunch of toddlers. " You can't have it! It's mine! I had it first" 🚼🚼🚼
Dude that's not fair to toddlers even they share more than these people do
Lmao 😂😂😂
Yeah, ppl need to GROW TF UP.
The Kurdish girl was so upset 😭 and so pretty.... I hope she is ok
She’s a UA-camr, her name is Mikan and she’s so nice!
She's super famous + getting a billion brand deals. She's doing ok.
@@konodanshi people can be rich and still feel upset about racism??? you dont lose all emotion once you gain money.
@eyelash-bug I wasn't trying to sound dry, it sounded like OP didn't know who she is, and might feel better knowing Mikan has her dream life.
@@snowinginsummer1 thanks 🙏
0:14 Hum... that's not a dog...
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@@SarahMaeBea That picture is actually of a guy from Japan that paid a company to make a realistic dog costume for himself to wear 😭😭
I mean, it is... just, not alive.
out of all the photos to use for that bit he chose that one 😭😭😭
oh but it is.... 😂😂
God, the eyeliner police strikes again.😑 Like changing your name on FB to an Asian last name is bad, sure, but eyeliner is just eyeliner. Thanks for the video
its dumb because didnt everyone do wingged eye liner in the ya know 60S!!!???
WHY is that BAD???? Like you guys are so sickening of making everything a bad thing nowadays! You pissing the world with your bllsht
Some people are really doing too much with it, but most people are just trying to participate in a trend rich wealthy influencers and celebrities generally get away with and praised for.
Like that one girl’s post in Reddit who had the wing and inner corners in black liquid liner. No, honey, you’re not Asian fishing. But that eyeliner REALLY is not for you simply because it doesn’t suit your features. Everyone’s eyes and the balance of their other features are individual, regardless of race or ethnicity. Even the makeup East Asians are doing rn on social media is just the current trend and isn’t going to suit every individual Asian person’s face.
And I think when someone is wearing another culture’s popular but not extreme style and get accused of racefishing or racebaiting, the accusers are just jealous that particular style doesn’t naturally suit their features but suits that other person.
I remember doing straight Korean eyebrows a few years ago because at the time the only trendy alternative was Western super arched eyebrows. In hindsight, neither actually suited me even though the Korean brows were better. If I’d bothered to study my face and step outside of what’s trendy sooner, I would’ve realized I need a slight gentle arch added. But it took the East Asian trends diversifying for me to realize that. Same with my lips, I was using dark brown liner because that’s what was trendy in the West on full lips and the alternative was sharply demarcated Asian gradient lips which didn’t suit me-in hindsight neither suited me. Took trends diversifying for me to realize single color blurred gradient with my natural darker pigmentated edges looks best on me. People need to 1. Do what looks good on them regardless of trend or origin of style 2. Stop throwing baseless accusations at people out of jealousy 3. Stop looking at ethnic groups as a monolith and dig deeper into who is doing what technique and why. E.g. Is this style of eyeliner because of the monolid? Oh. Well, what are people of this see ethnic group but with double eyelids doing? What about triple eyelids? Round eyes? Narrow eyes? How does that relate to my features? Etc.
I'm confused what the controversy is with the eyeliner. I am older lol...54. I am not sure what they are doing with the eyeliner that is considered appropriation. When I was a kid it was big eyeliner and lots of it.
How the hell changing your name of FB into an asian name is bad? I'm asian and most teenagers and adults that i know have this "japanese name" era, especially if they watch anime, i asked multiple of my japanese friends and they said it's fine as long the name doesn't have element of mockery
when will ppl understand that the FISHING part of asianfishing will always mean INTENTIONAL MISLEADING, just bc they put on eyeliner it doesnt mean theyre asianfishing, if they put on eyeliner with the intent of fooling people then they are asianfishing
edit 4 clarity!!
Even if the person wants to do their makeup in a way that knowingly "makes them look more asian", its still a non-issue unless theyre outwardly trying to CONVINCE people they are. I sometimes get confused as Wasian or asian passing, despite only being a quarter. At times I will further accentuate my features in a way that makes me 100% look mixed, but thats only because of a style I happen to like and choose to use on my face. I know exactly what it does, but theres no intentional misdirection at all, and people would see that if they properly interacted with me -.-
Edit: I also do cosplay, so take that as you will.
True. I can only think of Arianna Grande as someone who may have done Asian Fishing, and she won’t admit it so we’ll never have confirmation.
Imo, AG has incentive to look mixed. Whether that is Asian, Black, or Latina, she can pull in more fans if she seems relatable to them.
But a random woman wearing no cat eye eyeliner to university or a concert does not have incentive to mislead people and is not Asian fishing
3:10
I used to do my eyeliner like this about a decade ago, it's nothing new. This is just another case of terminally online Tiktok kids discovering something that has existed for ages, pretending it's a new thing, and calling it something else.
And using it to judge and attack people, when the internet could be a place of learning and understanding and peace 🥺
I'm so glad you showed the Kurdish girl, I'm also from the middle east and it's always so hurtful to get told I'm not asian. Asian people don't accept us as asian, white people don't accept us as white and the middle east doesn't actually exist. Asia isn't just east asia...I always feel like we're just erased
a turkish friend of mine got accused of and bullied for asian fishing but girlie literally just did make up that suited her eyes 💀ppl be crazy
Why do you care? I'm Moroccan and the term African has been turned into a synonym for blacks when it's literally a word from our language. The same way Asian now means yellow people. I still stand proud even with Americans being Americans 😂😂😂
@@JinTheAceStarew… yellow people?! Who calls Asians that.
@@JinTheAceStar I care because I have to live with the implications of being an invisible erased minority in the US
I understand the wish to belong. It’s human. I just wish it was enough for all of us to be human. The things that unite us all outweigh the differences by far.
I’m baffled. I’m white & I’ve done some of these eye makeup looks way back when I was in middle school and actually did eye makeup. It was just how I was taught how to apply eyeliner with my lid shape so I could actually see my eyeliner + I have a fairly round eye shape so it was common to emphasize that via upturned winged eyeliner with white eyeliner on the waterline.
Im not on tiktok or Twitter so I’m just kinda confused on when this became controversial because I have genuinely no clue how what I remembered being standard makeup trends became considered Asian fishing by certain online groups.
Like- I remember watching videos on how to do eyeliner in 2012 that from the clips shown would nowadays be considered Asian fishing. Truly, what a weird thing to try to fight about online.
i think it must have happened around the time of the “fox eye” trend? people started saying that doing “fox eyes” is asianfishing. i remember seeing a few legit cases of asianfishing but as usual, people took it too far and started accusing everyone who wore fox eye style eyeliner or took inspiration from asian makeup styles of asianfishing. now ig it’s extended to ALL winged eyeliner being asianfishing….
Same, back in high school (2003-2007 for me), cat eyes were popular! EVERY EMO GIRLIE OUT THERE had cat eyes and kawaii accessories. I was not into the emo scene, but I was very much into gaming and anime so I saw the trend. But as far as I know, the cat eyes have been around for a millennia, being super popular in the 1950s-1960s and then getting popular again when I was young. It's like these people harassing people about make up and eyeliner have never looked into fashion outside of this decade.
I dyed my hair black before studying abroad in rural Japan 15 years ago. My dorm mother asked why I dyed my hair and I said to fit in. I'm the height of average Japanese guys. People walked by me from behind like I was just like them. Only when they saw my foreign face from the front would they give me a wide berth. I let my normal color grow in and didn't re-dye it because by then I'd adjusted.
Also the fact they say “Asian” but only talking about the east. Like what happened to every other Asian race?
We are invisible, apparently 😂 like the rest of us from asian continent who are not from east are not exist lmfao
Ignorance of course
Ong
@@GreeeenmossIts because maybe only east asian complains about that. 🤷🏻♀️
It’s easily done. The Asian continent is so small and has so few people 😂😂😂
Girl with makeup half done at 13:19: actual sorcery.
That really gives me a mini jumpscare because I was not looking at the screen a few seconds ago 😅
how did she even do that with her makeup ?? im so confused i see so many cosplayers do that shit and its crazy
@rheece6477 you can use a special tape to open your eyes wider and also give you double eyelids
They have insane filter apps there that can do this, so her face doesn’t actually look like that in real life x
7:49 “the plot isn’t lost anymore, the whole library has been thrown away” 😂
When I was younger I moved from Asia to the US and got bullied for my features at school… seeing all of this sudden obsession with Asians is making me genuinely mad like what a time we live in 😭
That is so frustrating. I grew up in Mexico, with big round hazel eyes! Kids still bully me for having "frog eyes". Mean kids will always find a way to bully others. Because then when I moved to the US, I was bullied for having tan skin and hazel eyes! As if a Mexican can't have that mix! as Mexican, we are either seen as super dark skin and dark hair! Or nothing in between lol the key is to love yourself no matter what people say or think!
I get asked what country I am from - spoiler USA
@@DetsCrissy The whole scenario of some people being mexican but having (mostly ignorant people) sort of revealing they though less of you is weird. Kind of like people being 'but you're beautiful, I wouldn't of assumed you were x ethnicity!' because of the possession of caucasian features, but the underlying general implications are just weird and extremely back handed.
Please help me understand why you are mad, now that your features are liked and adored ?
@@mleys3248because they were bullied for it? Although I don’t think they are mad at the general public but more like at those people that did bully them and now are suddenly “accepting” and “liking” things they used to bully others for.
The mono lids thing is so true. My bestie and roommate has mono lids even though as far as she's aware, she's 100% Bulgarian, aka Eastern European. She's been telling me that even though she's not Asian, some people mistake her for asian because of her eyes and even had classmates making fun of her in school. In reality my friend is an absolutely stunning girl, but people are just weird when they see someone they deem as "different"
many eastern europeans have asian looking features from the hunnic, mongol, scythian conquests back in the day. even if you friend is 100% bulgarian, it is so normal for bulgarians to have that type of dna that it's considered standard.
that said, the old bulgarians also came from further east, they are not native europeans. the current bulgarians have mostly slavic blood, but also old bulgarian.
@chegu613 That's definitely true. But it's still seen as a rarity here to have asian looking features. Both me and my friend have often been mistaken for foreigners by other Bulgarians on multiple occasions. But I guess the only way to find out the full truth would be a DNA test. Plus a lot of Bulgarians outright deny the fact that there's Asian presence in our ancestry, for some reason they find that as "insulting". It's just weird, ya know. Especially considering that Bulgaria's location is pretty much on a crossroad between so many different ethnicities. It's like the locals forget that we're actually more ethically diverse than they like to believe. Not to mention the big minority of Romani people here, or the fact that our lands were under the Ottoman empire for roughly 500 years.
Omg yeah me and one of my classmates got pulled aside for a “random search” at the airport on our highschool trip in 2013. I am Asian but my classmate had monolids despite being a white boy with natural brown hair. He literally could be Asian passing
@@mimiche967 a DNA test would not make sense - a DNA test just tells you which group in the world right now has the greatest similarities to you. for you, that would be bulgaria. it doesn't tell you if your ancestors were huns, avars, or whatever. most bulgarians have ancestry from nomadic eastern tribes, even though the majority of the dna is slavic. if your genetic mix is overall the same as most other bulgarians, you would aleays come out as bulgarian in a dna test.
also pretty illogical of bulgarians to deny that their country is literally named after the bulgars, who came from central asia.
been listening to all these videos like a podcast while concussed
Rest your brain and feel better 🖤
Me too lol
Get unconcussed soon, and take care of yourself, yeah?
Hope youre feeling better now bro
loved seeing someone talk about this! especially that the epicanthic fold isn’t exclusive to asians! more ppl need to know this😭 i’m white but have a tapered crease, and there’s been a few times in real life (with no makeup on) i’ve gotten asked by asian ppl if i’m mixed, so sometimes i’m nervous some chronically online child might one day try to accuse me of asian fishing online, when i can’t help the way my eyelids just are
Same with me I had this since birth. It is so weird tho I had brown eyes too and they changed to green. I mean I am definitely mixed since I am Austrian but I never knew that a lot of Slavic people have this too
Omg same! I have an epicanthic fold, but it's because I have 'snow eyes', which is a fully European trait. I'm Danish and ppl assume I'm mixed... like literally just how my face looks, but ok.
7:24 the fact that stock photo exists is blowing my mind lol wow
Saw this comment as the photo came up😂😂😂😂
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@@tommegarvin325same
I've been waiting for this video oh my god, I'm tired of ppl fetishizing us fr.. not all east asians look like kpop idols and we won't be your oppars 😭
Aside from the extremes of surgery which is an issue of beyond just the “popularity” of Asian. But the examples of eye make up is a no. As that is culturally universal from kohl worn almost everywhere (medicinal reasons and makeup which is ancient).
Instead this is a conversation happening in hyphenated Asians western circles. The irony in westerners and yes even Asian westerns declaring themselves police of (seems to oddly only be a conversation in East Asians) Korea Japanese Chinese Americans Canadians because you saw how much fun the USA has in policing politics and leaders of other countries you decided are modern and culture does not live in borders or genetics.
Let me guess your nationality is western… ironically the people in those countries want people to participate in THEIR culture… not f you are say Japanese-American that is YOUR culture. So dictating and policing other cultures is the height and condescension of western privilege. And you and my family do not get a vote based on approximation per ethnicity.
But if you want to study and read academically on these topics then proceed but leave this garbage manipulation of anthropological topics in the lands and hands of ccp tiktok.
I enjoy the meme comment i saw where someone typed “i wish to be a beautiful small japanese girl, but i was born a large black man” or something like that.
I feel so bad for you all, i remember someone didn’t think my friend was Korean cause he was tan😭. I lowkey wish everyone can stop fetishizing races but that possibility seems unlikely
Kpop and anime and asian americans created this false image of us. We should blame them for that
@ that’s not what the term means.
Racial fetishizing EXCLUSIVELY-means the sexual associations based on race beyond a mere preference which everyone has.
Aka “yellow fever” for Asian fixation.
That example about skin color is not a crime. It is simply someone who had a stereotype about what a Korean looks like from limited contact. It’s the no different then the brilliant comedian Ronnie Chieng saying Indians are not Asian not realizing that north West Indians have racial “Asian” features (race is no longer biologically recognized) but Asian becomes a bizarre geographical context too broad to mean anything.
And concepts like modern borders are not the limits of culture or retired forms of human taxonomy.
You may also be experiencing internalized racism where there are East Asians and yes Asians will tell other eastern Asians you must not be Korean, Japanese etc because of skin color…
Fun fact as someone devoted to East Asian History or more specifically north East Asian studies I am tired of of westerners and Americans specifically who hear anthropological terms do not research it beyond an American centric view that white is bad and off white is always the victim of the other and topics can never be nuanced unique nor require clarification beyond stereotypes you learned in tiktok…
let me guess you get your exposure on these issues from tiktok and read nothing beyond?! The world is not black and white and Asians have been serving stereotypes about skin color purity and being civilized well before the Europeans arrived.
it sucks to see groups of people get treated like commodities, it only leads to people having unrealistic expectations such as appearance. at that point you question if these users even see them as a fellow human
New fear unlocked. I'm mixed indigenous and white and i have olive shaped eyes with heavy lids. Now I gotta be afraid of getting accused of "fishing" as a race with a few phenotypical similarities as my actual race...
I'm mixed Japanese and caucasian, and I've been asked several times if I'm native lol. My mom (100% Japanese) is guessed to be indigenous first, asian second, and her indigenous coworker is often told she looks asian. I guess we just look alike 😄
My family is very Caucasian but my daughter has pretty almond eyes and was accused of trying to pass as white in high school. Her teacher would also argue with her insisting that she’s at least a quarter Japanese because so was his wife and she has some of the same facial features. You’re darned if you do, darned if you don’t. Just be yourself and be proud of who you are. Don’t let anyone get you down, you are perfect!
i know plenty of people from eastern europe who are white, but you can very clearly see central asian ancestry. eyes that are more slanted and "flatter" faces are very common among eastern european white people.
@@Jeannette311 Caucasian as in American White or as in actually Caucasus?
Bc pleaaaaase American white people, stop saying you're Caucasian! It's an outdated category and people from the Caucasus are considered POC, it's so frustrating
@@Jeannette311 Not the teacher arguing with a child about their DNA T_T
The subtle digs at Oli London scattered through this video are sending me XD
Had someone accuse me of Asian fishing over my double wing liner. I’m indigenous, white & black. There isn’t an eyeliner on this or any other known planet that’s gonna make me look East Asian. It’s cosmetics, not a magic wand. My liner is trying to make my itty bitty little eyes look human sized.
I always wonder how many people fighting to defend certain races are from that actual race. Like Im latino and I always hear people saying what I should find offensive related to my culture, when me and other people honestly do not care. So its like people being offended for us when there is nothing offensive going on.
Rarely bruh, those "normal" Americans thought it was offensive for us and got mad about it while we were out here saying things like, "haha! Nice costume brother!" 😂
I'm Asian too, so seeing things like this makes me go, "bro, just do whatever you want, you have free will lmao" since they keep making big fuss about it lol and seeing them keeps trying to ruin our entertainment media (especially Anime and Manga) by pushing their agenda is infuriating fr. (At least don't be like 3:46, that shit is diabolical to do without actual knowledge 💀)
Yeah I'm also Latino or at least mixed with it as I'm also half white but people always try to fight on behalf of other people's races and think "these people of this particular race must be offended by this so I'm gonna defend them on their behalf" but like 90% of the time it's just some white dude/person getting offended for Mexicans and it's like we could care less because latinos learn to have a thick skin from a young age and can learn to take a joke unlike some people who clearly can't. I see people wear sombreros and do I get offended, nope. Is it a bit stereotypical to assume all Mexicans or Latinos wear sombreros or ponchos or eat tacos or eat tortillas or eat spicy food or eat frijoles or are full blown brown or that they all fully know Spanish and speak it all the time. Plus also have mariachi band music that they dance around to doing the salsa like nope not all Mexicans/Latinos do those things or like those things. It's a stereotype and it can be true for some things or some people but not everyone and yet people who are again most likely white people or not Mexican/Latino themselves will get offended on our behalf for crap we don't care about and are literally ok with. I mean I literally eat at Taco bell and it's white as all heck not even authentic at all but I don't get offended that the food isn't fully authentic like girl I already knew that but i still like it anyways. Plus I see so many people make fun of Mexicans in movies, shows, books, games, real life, UA-cam maybe for a skit or a joke and it's not meant to be taken seriously or personally like why should I get offended by things that don't matter. It's all stupid. I don't fight on behalf of other people's races as that's also stupid. I just live and take everything as a joke and I laugh because laughing and not caring is good for the soul and frankly more people should do it more often. I don't know why white people get all butthurt for Asians or any other race when they can't even relate to them so why do they even care so much? 🤷🏽♀️😑
mhm, unless its obviously offensive people who arent from said culture do way too much...
Just one of the hundreds of reasons I don't use social media anymore.
8:45 I feel this way too much. Half chinese is the last thing people will guess I am. I often get told to "get out, we don't want white opinions" when I talk about Asian fishing or issues POC face. Online certain photos can make me look white. Irl, no one treats me like im white.
I feel this--I'm half Chinese and half Italian. I'm not white passing, but also not fitting into the general aesthetic of Chinese or Italian x_x it makes me feel like I don't fit in anywhere (cousins on both sides aren't like me b/c they are either full chinese or full italian)
@aquaspiral exact same, half my cousins being blonde Germans and the other half being full Chinese! Much love to you
The way people treat mixed people online is low-key insane to me, Irl I have no problems with people (except for people being racist to me for being black😅) but online everyone seems to have a problem with mixed people no matter what we do, i don’t look white at all but people online will hear that I’m 50% white and assume i have straight blonde hair and blue eyes or something…
@@UltraViolet666 🥰
I have monolids, and when I was only 18, a hoard of anonymous anime pfp accounts attacked me. The harassment was so bad, because everyone accused me of asian fishing because I like cute things and stuff and because I have epicanthal folds. It... Was a really hard time. (Tw ahead), they were all pushing me to end my life even. And I almost did. The harassment was horrendous.
Oh naw that just pissed me off and I bet they werent even asian. God bless you, you arent alone.❤
I don't look asian enough for asian people and I don't look white enough for white people. What do I do? Ah, I don't care and try to luck out on my next 50/50 gacha pull!
Good luck on your next pull!
@David-hs9su Thanks!
Yeah as a fellow mixed person I'm half Mexican and half white and maybe a tad native American too I think and I'm not Mexican enough to the Mexicans or white enough for the white people and frankly I could care less because I'm my own race I'm a mixture of races which means I'm my own category and I frankly don't care if I'm not "blank" enough. When you're mixed you can never win in life so just continue to live and be yourself and screw anybody else's opinion and whatever else because none of it even remotely matters.
important question: which gacha game tho B)
@@layonanoreo im guessing genshin?
as an Italian and Chinese person who has curly hair, pretty pale skin, non hooded eyes and a lack of fitting into the Chinese stereotypes Ive gotten a lot of "Asian Fishing" comments in the past just for speaking about my Chinese culture and it pisses me off so bad.
I have really hooded eyes it’s a pain to do eye makeup 😭
Same 😭
@ the struggle is real 😔
FRRR
Same!!
YES
HES ALMOST AT A MILLION!!
9:50 why don’t THEY bring nori to school as a snack in 2007 and have all their peers tell them it smells like poop and tell them that they eat poop so now they can never bring food in a public place without being worried it smells “weird” WHERES THAT PART
yea I think you made a really good point on how a lot of people who are "asian fishing" just decide to ignore the existence of western asia and only focus on the beauty standards of places like china and japan instead even though those standards are already wildly blown out of proportion by the media and generalisation.
idk just something thats been going on quite a bit when it comes to this topic of asian culture
I'm gonna be honest...nobody else's make-up has ever affected my life. If I feel cringe because of somebody's style, I know that's a 'me' issue about 99% of the time (I always allow for exceptions lol).
I’m of Finnish descent and I have naturally very hooded eyes. Thank god I don’t have a large social media presence or people might accuse me of Asian-fishing 🙄
EDIT: Just to clarify, this isn’t actually something I’m worried about happening. I’m obviously very white (I literally have naturally blonde hair and blue eyes). I was just trying to point out how ridiculous it is for people online to assume that any non-Asian person with naturally hooded eyes/mono-lids is Asian-fishing, which is partly what this video is about.
Finnish people look whiter than paper trust me no one suspect you of looking asian
Same here and it's certainly not getting any better with age either. I guess I'm lucky to look _very_ Finnish in general, since I'm a big fan of the cat eye liner style and no one has ever accused me of asian fishing.
well the internet has taught me that a lot of people, to this very day, still accuse us of being Asian so hey, maybe we'd get a free pass! (I say that with *extreme* sarcasm. it's amazing the kind of bigoted racist crap you hear from people who haven't even stepped foot on Finnish soil)
if that's you in your pfp, i think you'd be fine cause you have very downturned eyes. these crazy people seem to attack non-asian people who have naturally upturned eyes or do their makeup with upturned eyeliner. and as an asian (specifically east and southeast) i find that so ridiculous because upturned eyeliner has been a trend for so long. it even has a name, cateye! oh and i love your hair :)
@@yeehaw789646 seconds ago..
Regarding eyeliner that is upturned, emo kids were doing that in the US 25 years ago.
Neat, someone said I was Asian fishing a little while ago, never bothered to look it up, and then you talk about it; I was just confused because while I'm part Chinese I don't like handling live bait. I've just been doing my eyeliner the same same way for over 10 years now
Can I ask what percentage
@@lemon_boii1074 Can I ask what "what percentage" percentage?
@@skylark.kraken right, sorry for my poor elaboration skills lol. I meant what percentage of Chinese
@ ohh, 25%
can I just say it’s always so refreshing to see this channel normally refer to asia as it is, ie the continent, and not just east asia. especially when so many on the internet forget southeast/south/central/west asians in the conversations surrounding being asian
Hair keeps getting better and better. I will say when it comes to make up and face looks I've seen, I don't understand the popularity of the puffy under eyes where you look like you haven't slept for 10 days. I know it's supposed to be "cute", but. They just look exhausted.
Exactly 😭
aegyo sal ? some ppl will overdo it but if its smthng u have naturally or if ur face is long, it will compliment ur features
agreed, he looks SO good! I love the new hair.
Because naturally (aegyo sal) is extremely cute and they want to replicate that same look however doing so isn't easily done.
As someone who has puffy under eyes recently, yes, I am tired.
It’s so wild, I’m just dating an Asian woman and I started picking up so much wild racial stuff from eavesdropping
I’m an East Asian woman and the startling realization that several conversations I had *AS A CHILD WITH ADULTS* were about people fetishizing East Asian women is so gross 🤢. And I’m not even considered pretty by East Asian or western standards, I don’t even want to know what people say to East Asian people who fit the beauty standards/stereotypes they expect from East Asians
Remember the saying "asian women are submissive" from whom theyve heard those rumors? Asian especially parents are scary as hell😭😭
@@Fen_Fox YOOOO I was happily talking to a colleague about my girlfriend and she started talking about which mixed asians looked the hottest. Like dog first off the one she landed on just looks like the non asian parent 90% of the time but lighter and second WTF she said white asians look the worst, to me the white guy with an japanese girlfriend. I hadn't even brought up anything like getting married.
Like its the worst on youtube dating videos. I know a guy who got fluent in japanese and moved to japan and is trying to find a wife, at 35 by club and barhopping in like young people party districts. Dog doesn't know the first thing about the cultural norms for his age or anything hes doing over there but he managed to get fluent.
God I got so mad when i was trying to explain that she doesn't like taking pictures of her face, its a whole thing like the emoji censor thing asian women in asian countries tend to do, and my colleague was trying to insinuate she's ugly or a catfish, like I just showed her the pic my gf gave me the green light to introduce my gf to friends and family with and you can see her face, what's wrong with people? I found a few spots to subtly jab my colleague with like real sleeper insults but god it wasn't a good time to pull her aside and talk to her about it, im currently her (boss? supervisor?) too and she felt comfortable saying this crazy stuff about my gf and asian women to my face.
@Fen_Fox yea I also saw a video that there is the saumsicon that east asian are well tight what btw is discusting
I will put it this way, I think it is wonderful that different cultures can be explored learned and celebrated. It is ok to style yourself however you want, as long as it is not malicious or insensitive. Oh and stop bullying people for doing their makeup the way they want, the trend will end up changing eventually anyways.
Off topic, I love Mikan. She’s so sweet and her fashion is so cute
I’m a white man who wears no makeup and I’ve been called offensive things that are usually targeted towards East Asian people because I’m pale and have naturally almond shaped eyes and dark hair. I AM LITERALLY 0% ASIAN I AM AS WHITE AS YOU GET MY MOM IS IRISH AND MY DAD IS GERMAN HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN
Because racists aren't smart, and their hatred is blinding
You've made me want to get a perm. You're hair looks so amazing...I'm jealous 😂. Also he is so damn close to a million subs. I'm hoping you get there by the end of the year ❤
As someone with eyes that are slightly closer together, I wear slightly winged eyeliner to mitigate that and no one notices. So much of makeup is simply emphasizing your features and it's not deep unless you really go out of your way to make it that way.
A video by Mikan being a part of a video by Edvasian?! My sub-box is colliding and I love it.
brooo thank youuu!!! i’ve seen a lot of accusations like these to my friends and jfashion and jbeauty community. back in my day asianfishing it was claiming to have asian dna and fetishizing the culture while doing it. again i can’t say what is wrong or right but ppl bombarding with hate just for liking a culture or cute things isn’t it imo
11:14 this is so true, I'm from Europe (no Asian ancestry at all) and i have eyes like this (not brown, but the stupid type of green that's barely green) . It's so hard to do makeup that suits me and I've been called an asianfisher by my sister's kpoppie friend
Witnessing your glowup every new video you post makes me so happy. I always look forward to your content!!! 😄
Woww I never realized just how crazy this whole topic is to think about. Especially, concerning looking like another race. Even though i’m a black woman, I get a lot of comments asking if im blasian, a pacific islander, and/or middle eastern. Particularly when I wear my hair straight or naturally wavy, its almost always someone trying to TELL ME what I am. Even after I state I’m simply black (okkk I did find out im a third scandinavian via ancestry DNA, so that’s probably where my complexion/eyes come from), its like people accuse me of lying or assume me to be something else. I tend to where my hair now in very distinctive “black hairstyles”, such as braids and twists, to reduce this (also I genuinely love them haha). Which I think sucks, as I want to be able to express myself fully as a black woman - without being seen as potentially asian-fishing or claiming to be something I KNOW I’m not. Also, it’s weird bc I can tell people (guys mainly) almost like the fact that I look racially ambiguous - which is both offensive and disgusting to fetishize in general 🫠😂. It’s definitely made it easier to weed out men who only want to date a woman who doesn’t look “too black” for them!
To the people who think Asia only has Japan and Korea let me cp a list from google on how many countries OTHER than Japan and Korea are in Asia
Afghanistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Cambodia
China
Cyprus
Georgia
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia
Myanmar (Burma)
Nepal
North Korea
Oman
Pakistan
Palestine
Philippines
Qatar
Russia (partly in Asia)
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
Sri Lanka
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Thailand
Timor-Leste (East Timor)
Turkey (partly in Asia)
Turkmenistan
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Rare laos mention
Ummm the meyroity of turkey is in Asia only 3% is in Europe
its so annoying to say you're asian on tiktok and being asked for proof, girl being asian is NOT rare, asia is one of the most populated continents. and when they ask for proof it's so annoying because i am NOT going to show my face because you dont believe that i am asian. holy shit omg
9:00 dude that shit had to hurt. im half asian half white as well and growing up in the us (based on her accent im guessing she did as well (or possibly canada?)) i always felt like i didn't have any claim to that side of myself, it almost felt like stealing just to say i was asian/korean. someone saying that to me would probably devastate me tbh
As an Australian I live in a really strange place. We’re a western country surrounded by Kpop Sanrio made in China Korean and Tokyo fashion kangaroos koalas And incredible food!
There’s no appropriation here. It’s all proximity
if you hadn't opressed the aboriginees like other white nations then yes obviously, you will be surrounded by non-ytes
Yeah I live in Sydney’s ‘Koreatown’ and no one here gives a damn about people dressing in Asian styles and liking traditionally Asian things as long as you don’t smack talk their favourite idol groups lol
@ exactly!! I have a cute new jeans tee on the way! I’m also a weeb so I love talking anime nerd
i’m white and neurodivergent; kpop and learning about different cultures (not just asian ones) are a couple of my hyperfixations and i’m always so paranoid telling someone it’s something i enjoy bc i’m scared they’re gonna think i’m trying to like make myself asian when that’s absolutely not my goal at all 🫠
SAMEEE!
hi ig im asian version of yours
im krn neurodivergent that luvs American/LatAm/French stuffs and ppl tell me why u tryna be foreigner 🥲😂💀
so i can feel you and i don't think that's a problem at all for liking other cultures srsly
As an asian neurodivergent, leaning about other cultures is always a good thing, always
Man, I'm neurodivergent and a solid 1/4 Korean and I still get paranoid someone is gonna give me shit for making lighthearted joke about me liking soy sauce a lot. There is just so much vitriol is terrifies me.
I’m East Asian and neurodivergent, and I totally support enjoying other cultures so long as you respect it and not do whatever the hell the people shown in the vid do. I will admit I do get wary when people say they’re into Chinese, Korean, or Japanese culture, I’ve gotten way too many weird comments about East Asian people not to be, but I can tell real fast when people genuinely are interested in the language and culture and not just fetishize it. And if people do take offense to that, they’re not people worth interacting with.
my brazilian indigenous eyes making people call me japanese my whole childhood
My Filipina friend keeps getting asked if she’s Latina/Mexican 😅 apparently a very common question towards many Filipino people. One person even tried to correct her insisting that she must be Mexican like sir are you telling me you don’t think she knows her own race/ethnicity 😭
@@Fen_FoxFilipinas do the same tho so they can't talk. The amount of time I was called a liar and self h8 bc I told that no I wasn't filipina. Like they knew my race better than me.
@@Fen_FoxFilipinos men think it's funny that I look like their ethnicity to them while Filipinas get aggressive and violent. Had an elderly one follow me and argue for 20 min.
@@Boo0o258 you cant stereotype all filipinos just cause some of them thought you were also filipino 🤦♀🤦♀
pra mim é ao contrário.
imo theres only so many ways to do eyeliner and a lot of these styles have existed since makeup has with different names in different eras. i think that we can share different makeup techniques around the world is really amazing. its great to be able to look at different styles to find what suits you best we just need to be respectful of each other
I have epicanthic folds and darkest brown eyes. Watching videos on makeup for hooded eyes helped me (a mostly European) a ton. I struggled with eye makeup for years. Sharing information is good!
being asian in life is hard like some kid thought Asia was a country and not a continent and said I wasn't Chinese but i was Asian like chinese wasnt asian
I still remember reading a comment thread where someone was insisting korea wasn’t part of Asia bc Asia was a different country 😅 with how some people are, I genuinely could not tell if it was rage bait or someone who forgot what the continents were
not that hard
@@JamesCunningham-j4y one time when i was in middle or high school, a white girl came up to me out of nowhere and asked "so like are you asian or chinese?" (i'm filipino-american)
The thing with Lerowillberunningaround being accused of Asian fishing was wild because like… she’s so Korean her descriptions were in Korean and back when that video blew up I remember seeing a tiktok account claiming she “used google translate” because “if you reverse translate her descriptions you can barely understand them”. And I swear I thought I was going crazyyyyy because the reason they couldn’t translate properly it’s because Lero’s Korean if so fluent it’s full of slang and onomatopeias or other common use of their mothertongue, like when you say wassup instead of what’s up. That account vanished as soon as that video became somewhat relevant but it was so crazy to think someone put that much effort just to lie and blame a Korean if not actually being from said country.
Wow. None of my reasons for not having Tik Tok involved my ethnicity before, but now I know I'd be torn apart on that platform. I'm south Asian, Scottish and nordic. I've got my south Asian parent's eyes and hair, and my white parent's nose and skin tone. I used to get bullied for looking like "an Asian girl who's had nose and eye surgery". I think I'd get accused of asianfishing even without makeup on! Why are we backsliding into defining people with ethnic clichés, instead of accepting that people are infinitely variable?
I’m not Asian but I have almond and turned upward eyes so sometimes I get the comment ‘you look Korean.’ It’s really uncomfortable and when I try to tell people it’s not okay to say that people go ‘you should take it as a compliment’ 😕
I love mikanmandarin she’s such an insanely skilled designer and she gets so much unfair hate for “asianfishing”
you're almost at a million Ed !! congrats you've come so far !!
I had a friend with blond hair, blue eyes, and looked like Barbie. I just assumed she was white until I saw her mom one day, who was very clearly Asian. (I believe her mother was 1/2 and she was 1/4).
Incidentally, that was also the day I was introduced to Hi-Chews by my friend! This was shortly before they hit the American market, so the little packages had Japanese writing on them.
Overall, you don’t really know anyone’s race(s) until you ask.
But she is still white, so its not the best example 😭 what in the one drop rule is this 🤣🤣 she is a white girl with Asian heritage, 1/4 compared to 3/4 of probably white. And she obviously looks white.
Micha whose entire personality is anime… she’s still Asian. The 1/4 doesn’t die off because colonialism took over.
@@michalovesanime ur one of those people this video was talking about lmao
@@kateemma22no it doesn’t negate her Asian heritage but acting surprised or shocked that someone who is only 1/4 Asian and 3/4 white looking white is kind of silly.
A quarter is significantly more than a drop, and it's kind of ridiculous to treat quarter-mixed ppl like they're the same as those who play up a ~5% mix (@ that one commenter). I'm 1/4 korean myself and it really depends on the person as to whether I 'look asian'. I've had a lot of people straight up ask me or weirdly assume which asian country I'm from (this older white dude customer went "arigato, right?" at the end of the checkout 😭 and I've had other odd stuff like that happen). For others I probably pass as fully white. Trust that a lot of people already contend with their 'not white enough, but not x enough either' mixed identity without others being weird about it too! Regardless, other people's perception doesn't change mine or anyone else's background.
6:50 Girl that's called a cat eye liner. Eyeliner is DESIGNED AND MEANT to change the shape of your eye. Assuming that a specific eyeliner style is intended to make an eye look "Asian" feels racially ignorant, like you said Asian people don't just have one eye shape.
Eyeliner has existed in countless cultures ever since humans decided to start applying pigment to their faces. Gatekeeping any eyeliner style as only for one race, only indicative of one race, or only intended to emulate a specific race feels racist as fuck to me.
Im Filipino and have been mistaken for being Mexican so many times and when I do correct them I've had people say that I don't looks Asian enough and stuff. Whenever I wear aegyo or douyin makeup people ask if I'm Asian fishing. Makeup isn't supposed to be gatekept by cultures, it's meant to be shared and I'm literally Asian. Im not trying to claim that I'm Korean I'm just doing makeup that I like. It just sucks because I'm just trying to be me, I can't change my race or ethnicity. And if people tell me I'm trying to make my eyes look the certain way most Koreans make them I literally would just walk away bc my eyes are almond shaped. Its so ridiculous 😭
People kept saying I was asian fishing and trying to look east asian as a south asian person because my skin was to light and my makeup was inspired by xiaohongshu make-up style , when I have never claimed to be east asain at all. So I had to delete all my tiktoks.
I wear a smiliar type of make up as her in 11:35 because i like glitter & it fits my eyes PERFECTLY ive tried multipe style or eye make ups over YEARS and this was the only one really fitting and me going like wow my make up is make uping..
I hear that Regina George from Washington does commercials in Japan.
The person saying they don’t want you talk about Asian issues like others is VIIIILE😭😭😭😭
Didn’t even know this existed, thanks for teaching me yet again how stupid people can be i guess, and i’m sorry you and anyone else has to go through that.
there's a clear difference in context between people who just wanted to try modern asian make up trends, people who shaped their entire look, personality, mannerisms, lifestyle, and even manifestations to "become an asian", and people who accessorize the asian look by covering their natural features to make themselves look asian.
the difference between the three is that the 1st one is not supposedly an issue.
ironically despite the false accusations on the 1st people, the 2nd and 3rd are seemingly being praised in tiktok and ig more.
“Morning. Welcome back.” *posted at 9pm*
Um, if he's posting from some place like Kuala Lumpur then it would be morning there😮
4am for me lol
I mean third shift just started here.. and it is morning for them 😂
There are other time zones in the world 😭😭
Ok for his defense its 5 am for me 😅
I'm so happy you covered this! I'm a white person, so I cannot speak on any of this. But I am an individual who enjoys Asian culture in media. I'm currently learning Japanese and Mandarin (along with Spanish and I wish to learn Gaelic and French, but those are besides the point.) I am also an anime fan. But with my fascination in East Asian culture since I was young always worried me I'd come off wrong. But I was so interested in this take! It was somewhat reassuring
But I'd love to hear the takes of any other Asian people, these discussions are so important! :D
as long as you’re respectful and kind to both cultures and people, you’ll be fine. you’re doing good even right now
@@gunnasintern Thank you! I try my best :)
What is “asian culture” ? We are diverse
I have lived in China and Japan and have worked with MANY SEA people. Everyone of them was happy whenever I want to learn their language and about their culture. They have always been very happy to help me whenever I had trouble understanding anything. In fact, I was forced to wear a kimono and dance at a Japanese festival (I cannot dance and didn't want to wear the kimono lol). The old ladies loved making me dance (their freaking stamina is unreal). China and Japan also were very keen on getting me to try every food they could think of. Honestly, most people just wanted to share their way of living with others. As long as you don't pretend to be someone or something you aren't, I don't think you'll have an issue.
as long as you're respectful to asian people and don't claim the culture as yours, you're good honestly
the fact that you even worry about this shows that you are genuine and want to be as respectful as you possibly can
isn’t it kinda racist to associate tilted eyeliner with asian people’s eyes in the first place?
Man... I'm so glad that I live in Northern Europe and don't have tiktok, because I'd have a stroke if I had to interact with people saying stuff like that or leaving comments like these unironically.
I don't think some of these people think about what their point of view says about their attitude and the way they view other people.
What kind of upbringing would you need to have, in order to think that not only are you the arbiter of what is good and right in the world, but you also decide (based on absolutely nothing) what other people think and feel about things that might affect them?
The lack of self awareness is pungent.