@@abdolenecourt It's not ridiculous to address laziness in storytelling. It's possible to see an animal be strong and capable, and yet ultimately succumb to its natural predator. We see that in nature documentaries all the time. Prey animals are built to not get caught and predators are built to catch. There should be a tension as those two truths fight.
Yeah honestly I was saddened by it too but considering Xenophages are their natural predator and with how busted they were in the movie it kind of makes sense. Plus their designs looked cold as hell
The soldier that got his legs eaten in the final battle was named Thompson. Probably flash Thompson who got his legs amputated in the comics before getting bonded to venom.
What if it was toxin? Correct me if I’m wrong but we don’t know what symbiotic he got at the end of let there be carnage, we all just assume it was toxin right? So what if it wasn’t, and he just got toxin for the first time in this movie
@@realnoble676make It simple…….. who Is the off spring of carnage????? Toxin that’s the next off spring…. Sony could have changed that themselves so whatever simple. It don’t hold weight. However, you’re probably right. It wasn’t toxin because he is acidic to the touch.
@@realnoble676Toxin is the offspring of Carnage, just like Carnage is the offspring of Venom. It only makes sense for Toxin to have been Mulligan’s original symbiote. They’re likely saving Toxin for a separate film
I think it can be widely agreed that Knull's design in this movie was both horrifying and glorious. Pray we get more of him as the true cosmic-level villain that he is.
@@randyej2pr 1- prevent Taika Waititi from ever touching Thor again and Waititi shoulda stick to Korg and Motion capturing Hulk 2- Never let Scott Buck & Isaac Perlmutter in MCU
22:34 Pretty sure during the movie they said mulligans previous symbiote left him so they gave him another to save his life? So maybe a toxin movie or something? I also think that the vial at the end was the piece of venom from the beginning of the movie that strickland captured so maybe a way for venom to come back?
that's a bit of a stretch, I think it's more likely to mean that Eddie will be joined with another Venom symbiote in the Battlefield grounds in Avengers: Secret Wars
The portal that took Eddie back to the Sony-verse at the start of the movie was definitely a Knull portal. So Knull has the ability to go across realities? Seems like a pretty easy way to get him into the MCU.
I have wondered, how those are connected: Sorcerers Ghost Rider Nexus beings The Infinity Stones But with Knull, it is a different kind of teleportation. Since his children are essentially given free will. Where his is not. Unless something breaks
That portal was a mistake, in my opinion, because in No Way Home, Eddie simply faded away, but in this film, it shows him yanked back through a portal, that did not happen in No Way Home
Pretty sure that soldier that lost only his calves (who was also strangely the only soldier to really get a focused scene) was Flash Thompson. Happens during the final battle outside, Xenophage shreds his legs slowly while throughout the whole film, anything in their mouths get instantly shredded. He also gets extracted when Strickland and Eddie grab him. I believe that was their in-universe Flash and how he lost his legs.
the head of imperium was indeed played by Reid Scott. and that cockroach finds the vial that contains the venom sample. agony is the symbiote that Dr. payne had
Here’s a thought, in Venom 1 when riot tries to bring venom back to his home world, is that not the place the symbiottes fled from? Also I thought Eddie and venom were the only ones able to achieve complete symbiosis. These movies put together makes no sense 🤷♂️
I was thinking about that too, my guess is that they retconned some of it, changing it from Riot, Venom and everyone else coming to earth to prepare it for invasion, to them coming to escape from Knull. Which I feel is a bit better story wise.
Try to remember that the continuity for the movies (Sony and the MCU) and the comics are all different. Saying it can’t be Toxin because the colors wrong or that Carnage didn’t create him is like saying that Venom isn’t real because he doesn’t have the white spider on his chest. Also since most of the symbiotes aren’t officially named in this movie or the others it could be anyone
Tom Hardy is a big dog lover and has done a lot of work for Battersea Dogs Home in London and could be where the scene at the beginning originated from
Well, toxin was never in the movie. The scientist says that his old symbiote(toxin) left him for dead. The symbiotic that infects Mulligan is an symbiote made for the movie. Hope this helps.
Let me just say that this film was 1000x better then the first two movies. The violence and blood were on point for a pg13. Knull looked menacing and scary af. The woodchipper monsters (how i like to call them now) were absolutely overpowered and i did not know how venom could take more then one at a time. I really hope the heroes of the mcu have to handle those things and there opinion on them.
I was really not expecting to like this movie as much as I did! It was just so much fun, and it's fully self aware that it's so silly. When Mrs. Chen just so happened to be at the casino I laughed so hard lol
I think in this scene 13:14 venom got tentacles because he ate carnage (correct me if im wrong) it can also be a bond thing Im just expressing my opinion because I'd be gassed if the reason why he got more versatile is by eating carnage
Sony seriously thought they could make a Sony verse with only spiderman villains, no heroes🤣😭, they need to give up fr my gawd, and we don’t speak of Madame web💀
So what exactly is the implication of the opening scene being different is it simply a retcon or was Eddie misplaced in a different universe similar to the MCU and then he’s brought back to Sonys universe after that
Mulligan doesnt have toxin( Toxin left mulligan for dead he didnt want anything do to with mulligan) teddy paine says that his previous symbiote left him for dead then they got another symbiote to bond with him to save his life
A detail I loved was during the dog kennel fight, Eddie takes off his slipper and chucks it at someone. In mexican culture, if an elder or parent takes their slipper off, it means you're about to get a whooping, and the "chancla" will get thrown if you try and run 😂😂
In my school vr game, the Xenophages are in the game as well but are considered a sub branch of XI and are unauthorised units (unauthorised as it they are not allowed to enter combat) and have normal sight
I totally thought when Martin Moon was talking to Eddie about Eureka, since he was just sleeping, he was going to mention how he has a reoccuring dream about how he's a lizard. Would have been a great easter egg and support the whole "dreaming are windows into the multiverse" theory.
Loved the movie and the best part is that there are so many doors that can they take for the next film. So what had me thinking was why Toxin's symbiote abandoned him. I really wish they included Toxin in the last battle and him staying in San Francisco after Eddie leaves. I do want them to bring Carnage back somehow.
I never understood why people refuse sony selling spiderman being sold back to marvel. I understand spiderverse and those writers, but cant they just transfer over to marvel? Its not like they have to restart or refresh right?
I was js disappointed how easily the other symbiotes died…i know its venoms movie but dang
The symbiotes were killed by their natural predators.Seems pretty logical/expected.
@@petrenicolae3282exactly. Some people are just ridiculous
@@abdolenecourt It's not ridiculous to address laziness in storytelling. It's possible to see an animal be strong and capable, and yet ultimately succumb to its natural predator. We see that in nature documentaries all the time. Prey animals are built to not get caught and predators are built to catch. There should be a tension as those two truths fight.
Yeah honestly I was saddened by it too but considering Xenophages are their natural predator and with how busted they were in the movie it kind of makes sense. Plus their designs looked cold as hell
@@vipe650r why tf are you telling me this? And why are you contradicting yourself?
The soldier that got his legs eaten in the final battle was named Thompson. Probably flash Thompson who got his legs amputated in the comics before getting bonded to venom.
oh shit good call
Maybe a bit of the Venom symbiote survived and we can get Agent Venom.
Yeah that was a nice easter egg but itt would obv. Be Peters classmate flash if theyy decide to do it in the MCU
came here just to type that out lmao
I shouted when that happened (Agent Venom is literally one of my favorite Marvel characters)
It's not toxin they said in the movie that the symbiote left his body so they gave him green symbiote to him so that he can live.
What if it was toxin? Correct me if I’m wrong but we don’t know what symbiotic he got at the end of let there be carnage, we all just assume it was toxin right? So what if it wasn’t, and he just got toxin for the first time in this movie
@@realnoble676make It simple…….. who Is the off spring of carnage????? Toxin that’s the next off spring…. Sony could have changed that themselves so whatever simple. It don’t hold weight. However, you’re probably right. It wasn’t toxin because he is acidic to the touch.
The close captions confirmed it was Toxin. He was just reinjected with the same symbiote.
@@realnoble676Toxin is the offspring of Carnage, just like Carnage is the offspring of Venom. It only makes sense for Toxin to have been Mulligan’s original symbiote. They’re likely saving Toxin for a separate film
@@captainblorgus2515 toxins 6 comic run is perfect for tv adaptation, not a movie
Is no one gonna talk abt the symbiote with the flame powers or smt????
Right 😂😂😂
That shocked me ngl it looked so cool too.
Looked really rad, then I was sad.
To me, it was a visual nod to Ultimate Carnage with the glowing yellow chest. Badass.
Can't believe that Ms Chen got to feel those 19 inches of Venom before Spiderman ever could
😂
19 inches is crazy work
@@SSR-Khaleesicompletely outta pocket
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ayooo
I loved that very fast female symbiont in the end
Agony and lasher was 🔥 btw
agony is tough
no scream!?
@@Synyster07 no
@@Synyster07 no unfortunately
I think it can be widely agreed that Knull's design in this movie was both horrifying and glorious. Pray we get more of him as the true cosmic-level villain that he is.
I swear we needed Gorr to look this good.
@@randyej2pr 1- prevent Taika Waititi from ever touching Thor again and Waititi shoulda stick to Korg and Motion capturing Hulk
2- Never let Scott Buck & Isaac Perlmutter in MCU
He looks 100% canonical
Same he looks ripped right out the comics. Same with Agony tbh. Lasher's naga like design was so cool too
22:34 Pretty sure during the movie they said mulligans previous symbiote left him so they gave him another to save his life? So maybe a toxin movie or something? I also think that the vial at the end was the piece of venom from the beginning of the movie that strickland captured so maybe a way for venom to come back?
What about the price of venom captured at the end of let there be carnage
what if the symbiote piece that Venom left behind in the MCU portals Eddie back there and they recombine? Venom did say it's just goodbye for now.
No I thought He left it after he went thru the portal then he left the change with some of him right
I thought he was in the cockroach at the end of the movie.
@@duck-uc3lxhe left some in both universes
@@morganrrhazei thought the same. could be wrong.
that's a bit of a stretch, I think it's more likely to mean that Eddie will be joined with another Venom symbiote in the Battlefield grounds in Avengers: Secret Wars
This movie I think, has been one of the bloodiest PG-13s I've ever seen.
FR
The movie actually got an R-13 rating here in my country philippines
yeah they pushed it to the limits i was surprised lol
Ye it was 15 here in the uk which I normally consider an r as Deadpool is a 15
It's a 15 in uk
It was amazing. The legs eaten. The woodchipper monsters spraying blood. F*cking A.
I see almost every UA-camr think it's Toxin, but in the movie, they directly say Toxin left Patrick. Didn't they watch the movie at all?
SONY needs to sell the SPIDEY rights back to MARVEL 🤦🏽♂️
That's the only golden cow sony can milk from, they'd rather produce mediocrity then sell Spiderman
Nah
That is such a bad idea
@@ayushnayak6138how is that a bad idea
They make a lot of money off of spiderman. @Spyalwayswins
It was honestly so cool seeing all the other symbiotes and of course knull
Knull is so cool
I really hope they give andy a chance in mcu and not being toxic towards him
About the only positives lol
@@tdlmat_true
@@gamingarachnid3367you poor thing
@@abdolenecourtsame thing I said
The portal that took Eddie back to the Sony-verse at the start of the movie was definitely a Knull portal. So Knull has the ability to go across realities? Seems like a pretty easy way to get him into the MCU.
I have wondered, how those are connected:
Sorcerers
Ghost Rider
Nexus beings
The Infinity Stones
But with Knull, it is a different kind of teleportation. Since his children are essentially given free will. Where his is not. Unless something breaks
That’s pretty badass tbh.
I thought it was spiderman
He can travel realities but he can't see establish hive mind control outside his own
That portal was a mistake, in my opinion, because in No Way Home, Eddie simply faded away, but in this film, it shows him yanked back through a portal, that did not happen in No Way Home
Pretty sure that soldier that lost only his calves (who was also strangely the only soldier to really get a focused scene) was Flash Thompson. Happens during the final battle outside, Xenophage shreds his legs slowly while throughout the whole film, anything in their mouths get instantly shredded. He also gets extracted when Strickland and Eddie grab him. I believe that was their in-universe Flash and how he lost his legs.
I did ask why it took his time with its food
Another wasted character by Sony!
Rex even called him Thompson
OH SHIT I DIDN'T EVEN CATCH THAT
Venom going from fish to bigger fish to frog is a very subtle joke about the theory of evolution lol
i bothered me that we don't ever follow up with that plane, hope they emergency landed safely
the head of imperium was indeed played by Reid Scott. and that cockroach finds the vial that contains the venom sample. agony is the symbiote that Dr. payne had
When Venom has The Last Dance with Mrs Cheng, I cheered.
Same Venom was getting down in that scene. And the idea of them somehow practicing that dance without Eddie knowing is just precious
22:29 they say in the movie Mulligan’s Symbiote (toxin) left him. The green symbiote is not toxin
I don't get why they had trouble saying "We are Venom" when they've said it so many times before.
Venom was too turnt😂
they were drunk
One of the many stupid plotholes in this crapfest
@@Michael-yv6pe bruh chill
Here’s a thought, in Venom 1 when riot tries to bring venom back to his home world, is that not the place the symbiottes fled from? Also I thought Eddie and venom were the only ones able to achieve complete symbiosis. These movies put together makes no sense 🤷♂️
I was thinking about that too, my guess is that they retconned some of it, changing it from Riot, Venom and everyone else coming to earth to prepare it for invasion, to them coming to escape from Knull. Which I feel is a bit better story wise.
The last dance plot is hot garbage because of the first venom. Sony is worse than fox use to be with the xmen
It only doesn't make sense if you watch it but don't actually pay attention.
The story from the first film has EXPANDED. That is what stories do.
In the movie they say mulligans original symbiote abandoned him, so idk if toxin is even in the film but he could be out there somewhere
Yes!I just watched this movie a few hours ago and I was waiting for your video!
Same here
Same!
23:24 if you think about venom is a lot weaker then some other symbiotes like they all form weapons and sharp tendrils and venom is just big
Well, he did say he was a loser in his planet
@@Shadow-Shell yea check the timestamp
You clearly know nothing about venom except for these movies , clearly
Venom is the 998th symbiote knull created so makes sense, he ain't as strong as other.
@@C4DOOM-c6j but why get weaker isnt it supose to get better with time
One thing u got wrong he never reached out to touch his hand, he done it to use the door to protect Eddie
For real, and it was more like ET than the roof art
And no one mentioned how did Eddie survive that explosion being exactly besides it
@@leifericson1658 literally got covered by a DOOR lmao
That tentacle scene is when venom grabbed the door thing to protect eddy
I'm guessing the piece of Venom left in the MCU isn't meant for anyone from that universe; it's going to reunite with Eddie at some point.
But Venom symbiote is alive in the Sony Universe in the end credits with that cockroach.
@ Different Symbiote. That was the purple one. Agony.
Pretty sure that symbiote that Mulligan had wasn't toxin. They say the symbiote he had left him for dead
there is no toxin carnage never got to breed
@@k1ng2freshSymbiotes don't need to be out here kashmigamigamoingaling to reproduce dude. They reproduce asexually
I think he shed though, Carnage did wrap his tentacles around his neck and I think it might created Toxin.
@@k1ng2freshhis eyes turned dark ish blue in venom 2
Im pretty sure mulligan wasnt toxin. Didnt they say in the movie he had to go through symbiosis as his symbiote had left him for dead
No, he was 100% lasher
Toxin is red with a green tongue
i think he was an original symbiot because lasher bonded with someone else
Try to remember that the continuity for the movies (Sony and the MCU) and the comics are all different. Saying it can’t be Toxin because the colors wrong or that Carnage didn’t create him is like saying that Venom isn’t real because he doesn’t have the white spider on his chest. Also since most of the symbiotes aren’t officially named in this movie or the others it could be anyone
Saw this film today and loved it. Great timing with your upload
In theaters the part where Venom bites off the 4 guys heads, it does have a little bit of blood, just thought you should know:)
I want a Venom horse plushie lol
Or how about venom frog
@@dumdumdugan1940 that too
I want it as a statue
Tom Hardy is a big dog lover and has done a lot of work for Battersea Dogs Home in London and could be where the scene at the beginning originated from
Well, toxin was never in the movie. The scientist says that his old symbiote(toxin) left him for dead. The symbiotic that infects Mulligan is an symbiote made for the movie. Hope this helps.
Let me just say that this film was 1000x better then the first two movies. The violence and blood were on point for a pg13. Knull looked menacing and scary af. The woodchipper monsters (how i like to call them now) were absolutely overpowered and i did not know how venom could take more then one at a time. I really hope the heroes of the mcu have to handle those things and there opinion on them.
3 1 2 for me. 3 is quite enjoyable. But they're badly written, no doubt.
Why has NOBODY said how Rex is literally Mordo
One doesn’t trust sorcerers
One doesn’t trust scientists
Which one is Rex again?
@@KyleGK01the general that did all the hunting
Venom is In a different universe so it’s a different character
@ well no duh
I was really not expecting to like this movie as much as I did! It was just so much fun, and it's fully self aware that it's so silly. When Mrs. Chen just so happened to be at the casino I laughed so hard lol
When Venom bit off the four guys head, if you look closely there is blood that splatters 💀
did knull break the 4th wall at post credit scene???? cause he said "you will watch" and looked at the screen..... Erik???
I loved all 3 venom movies. I don't get the hate for these ones specifically other than no spiderman
28:35 That is not Toxin In the movie they say that Mulligan's symbiote left him for dead and that's a different symbiote
The Void, you say??
Tom Hardy literally runs over broken glass barefooted. Relax... it's obviously a die hard reference
It isn't "Eureka" it is "Nierika" in the movie.
So this is a different void from the Void that Alioth is in, which is a different Void that Sentry turns into
Did anyone look at the Xenophages and mistake them for Terminids from Helldivers? Sweet Liberty
FOR DEMOCRACY
That wasn't Toxin. They said that the detective was dying and his symbiote abandoned him. Then they gave him the green symbiote to save him.
The shoe loss was definitely a Die Hard reference. Eddie even has to run over broken glass later in the movie before Venom grabbed him some shoes
I'm thinking the reason that Toxin left Mulligan is because he didn't want to create a kodex by reviving him.
The flashback hurt😢😢
I think in this scene 13:14 venom got tentacles because he ate carnage (correct me if im wrong) it can also be a bond thing Im just expressing my opinion because I'd be gassed if the reason why he got more versatile is by eating carnage
I was mad we didn’t get more time with the power ranger symbiotes
Eddie walks through broken glass bare foot on the main lab floor of Area 51. So it is also a die hard nod.
Absolutely the best Venom Movie!!! So good!!!
That's not Toxin. Toxin ditched Mulligan. Also at 26:43, it's supposed to be "Nierika."
Venom left his DNA inside Mrs. Cheng 😂
I was sure that one of the symbiote would bond with Sir Otto Hightower)
Hot take the movie was great. Big fan ending made me cry.
I don't think that was toxin....they said his symbiote left him for dead and they had to give him a symbiote to keep him alive.
Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.
Sony seriously thought they could make a Sony verse with only spiderman villains, no heroes🤣😭, they need to give up fr my gawd, and we don’t speak of Madame web💀
So no one caught the Flash Thompson Agent Venom easter eggs?
Thank you I’ve been saying this ever since I saw the movie
Which one is it ?
@@rbt_rehanbuster strickland shouted "Thompson down" and both his legs got bitten off by the xenophage
I caught it, and was shocked no one talked about it
I feel like he’s gonna get what’s left of venom and end up bringing that back to eddie
31:55 Ya idk why they retconned it to only be 1 year. That was weird.
So what exactly is the implication of the opening scene being different is it simply a retcon or was Eddie misplaced in a different universe similar to the MCU and then he’s brought back to Sonys universe after that
Seems like a retcon to me
martin was an amazing character proably the best back/side character ive seen in ages lol
crazy mike vic jab
I’m saying though.. like why?
Unnecessary 😂
Love you guys!
Mulligan doesnt have toxin( Toxin left mulligan for dead he didnt want anything do to with mulligan) teddy paine says that his previous symbiote left him for dead then they got another symbiote to bond with him to save his life
Eyyy I’ve been waitin for thiss
Anyone else notice the father’s ring. I swear it had a OG shield logo.
I wish there were more action scenes. Overall it's a ok movie since I didn't expect very much.
22:31 Toxin looks badass in teal!!
The Tag team move in fight vs the dog fighter guys is a re-creation of Venom The Ducks special move in Contest Of Champions
martin is the GOAT🔥🔥
Tom Hardy is SOOO good!
It's so cool seeing Rosie from LetterKenny getting movie roles
Micheal Vick catching a stray smh 🤦🏾♂️
Well hes the most famous real world dog fighter🤷♂️
Trash for that one
@@asmooshi9752He Never Orchestrated The Dog Fights, It Was Done On His Property By A Relative.!
That Segway was smooth.
21:07 NOT TO MUCH ON DRAKEEEEE 😂
😂😂
@@DummyEast Drake catchng strays from every which angle! 😅
A detail I loved was during the dog kennel fight, Eddie takes off his slipper and chucks it at someone. In mexican culture, if an elder or parent takes their slipper off, it means you're about to get a whooping, and the "chancla" will get thrown if you try and run 😂😂
What yall think about the Spider Noir leaks?
Tom Holland needs to talk to Ryan Reynolds about how to negotiate with the Fiegie about how to force a story on the director.
It's nierika not eureka, right? 🤔
That Mitchell & Webb Look.😂 4:24
In my school vr game, the Xenophages are in the game as well but are considered a sub branch of XI and are unauthorised units (unauthorised as it they are not allowed to enter combat) and have normal sight
Dude I swore that was doctor dan. It looked like him from the back and sounded like him. I was surprised you brought that up.
I totally thought when Martin Moon was talking to Eddie about Eureka, since he was just sleeping, he was going to mention how he has a reoccuring dream about how he's a lizard. Would have been a great easter egg and support the whole "dreaming are windows into the multiverse" theory.
Wish scream was in here
“Mike Vick approach” that’s like his only good joke
In The Netherlands it is R rated I can’t go to this movie.
Was that a Ray’s Occult Books sticker on the mailbox from Ghostbusters 2?
13:39 no blood for pg13 but the other creatures shoot blood out the back of there heads🤨
D movie' was wild w/ emotional elements in it. I want more of serious venom movies 😄😄
The symbiote dragons are from Beowulf? Lol
Also @NewRockstars there was a line that "Mulligan's previous symbiote left him for dead." That was not Toxin
Movie wasn’t good at all :/
Loved the movie and the best part is that there are so many doors that can they take for the next film. So what had me thinking was why Toxin's symbiote abandoned him. I really wish they included Toxin in the last battle and him staying in San Francisco after Eddie leaves. I do want them to bring Carnage back somehow.
I stand corrected about PG-13 not being enough. Trilogy was re-watchable.
They definitely push the limits of the pg rating throughout all 3 films. They are gore-ey for pg films
People just don't really understand what the PG-13 rating is capable of. Unfortunately, that also includes studio executives.
I never understood why people refuse sony selling spiderman being sold back to marvel. I understand spiderverse and those writers, but cant they just transfer over to marvel? Its not like they have to restart or refresh right?