For anyone in a hurry, 7:35 is where the comparison of different gut strings starts. Good informative video... with breakage around the corners, I would expect that is worse problem is some 1-piece stringing patters? Since nat gut is only sold in packs, I suppose it's going to always be advisable to string in 2 pieces to avoid the 270-degree bend on the long side (or multiple 270-degree turns with some patterns). Is there an issue where the extra knots would put more stress on the string and cause more chance of breakage?
Was waiting for you to say ‘everyone should treat themselves’ - completely agree. Even the hybrid mains. You may have undersold it - I think the feel is more than 10% - it’s incredible.
Not sure if it’s captured in the other comments but the other huge reason to use gut in addition to playability is comfort on your arm. I have had elbow issues so my default setup is VS Gut mains with a reasonably soft poly in the crosses like Hyper G or Black Code.
I agree with tennis spin. As an experienced tennis stringer, I have had customers bring back a racquet strung with gut with a strange breakage on the side. The customer said that he left it in his car for 3 days in the summer heat and claimed that the string is defective. I explained the situation to them and they didn’t believe me. 🤔
I work in a pro shop we do all racket sports. It's a similar but worse problem in badminton, so many think they're pros and string up their rackets 28lbs and above with the nicer thin strings when the most they should be doing is 25 lbs. They come back and complain a few days later when the string is broken at the top from a misshit, like you can't be stringing it that tight if you're hitting shank after shank the string can't handle that on the edges of the frame 😂
In Addition to the Babolat VS and Luxilon (which is stiffer for sure) I Used Volkl (yellow colored) and it was not coated, not very powered and very soft. So used it in full bed on the Wilson Blade 98 18x20 - it was amesome, I had the best tennis ever with it despite the racket was heavier that I could manage (after that I could not use it with polyester strings and sold). This shows how much different natural gut and other tennis strings are!
I have used both Wilson gut and Babolat VS gut and definitely prefer VS. The pop and feel from VS is unreal and noticeable, difference. I have also used it as a hybrid (with 4g) for longevity purposes. It doesn’t feel the same but suits its purpose. Yes, if you are a 5.0 and have never tried natural gut then definitely give it a try. Players below that level may feel some “differences” but won’t be able to appreciate the true differences. Thanks for the video. I concur with your assessment and appreciate your heads up on the other 2 brands of gut. I will check them out sometime in the future. Best, Don
FYI - I got tired of paying Wilson's price for Champ's choice, so for the last few years I've been stringing my racquets with Klip gut & Luxilon ALU Rough 17G. The cost for both is about the same as Champ's choice, but you'll get 2 racquets strung for that price. I love the feel and power I get from the hybrid. As he says, don't get it wet, use your racquet a lot and hit the cover off the ball.
Tennis spin manages it really well to address topics of interests. That's what I like the most about this channel. It's very interesting. I would love to see longer clips, tho or some kind of podcast. Maybe with fellow stringers or manufacturers.
I remember the first set of natural gut string I tried was Pacific. Pacific was about USD14 to 15 cheaper than Babolat if converted to US dollars from my currency.
Hey Tennis Spin! It would be great if you make a video comparing the "feel" on contact, with gut, multis, syn gut, and polys. Like what you feel just as you touch the ball...the amount of stretch from the strings...the sensations as the ball leaves... and the sensations end up with. Thanks for another good video man! Cheers from Guayaquil, Ecuador.
Klip gut comes in coated, black or clear coat and non coated. It's been made for around 100 years in Melbourne . Very reasonably-priced down under. I really like it as a string. Works great in control rackets.
But in the end if you dont brake the strings natural gut will stay playable longer than other strings which means you dont need to restring as much. That means it doesnt pay as much in the long run. Right?
Yep, I use gut in the mains of my Ezone. Then kirschbaum pro line II or RPM Blast in the crosses. 55/53 or 52. I have used the Wilson natural gut. There is a guy in San Diego that sells cheaper uncoated gut. The Klip I didn’t like as much.
Why wouldn't you use the polyester on the mains and natural gut on crosses?? I would presume that would be a wiser setup. Putting poly on the cross in a hybrid setup is a waste. Natural gut on the mains and polys on the cross seems backwards to me. Does this method have a benefit?
@@big1matt its not that uncommon, people only put polys in the mains for durability because most people break mains. whichever string you want most benefit from should go on the mains. I hate to reference the pros but for example Roger Federer uses this very setup.
another nice informative video, thanks! I use Klip gut in mains with poly crosses in lower power rackets, and usually poly gives up before the gut, so its quite durable, even in slightly humid conditions. its also more affordable and you can buy half strings too.. wilson I used but broke on the side. So I would have rated Klip a little better. thx
@Kutay Yurtsever Klip is my go to natural gut. Klip is great and I rate it way above the Wilson gut. I haven't used the Babolat gut but they have been making natural gut strings for 100+ years so it's probably #1. I don't know about you, but I always break the Luxilon poly before I break the gut, unless the gut gets wet. I have racquets strung with RPM Blast 17G if it gets wet.
VS touch 16 black main at 46 + LXN smart 16L cross at 44 - tennis spin's a few month-old idea. Stringed with Klippermate drop weight. Gut black has a kind of figment, and it is somewhat transparent under strong light. It fades as used - it becomes like LXN smart gray.
I've had gut break in the bag over night after one hit, but also had gut last 6 months hitting on and off. Also seen multi break over night shit happens lol
My opinion is that the playable longevity of gut is unmatched. I have never broken a gut string, and I always string gut in mains with poly in crosses. I play till gut fray’s really bad and it retains good playability throughout fraying as well. I think because of this, gut is actually more cost effective for me than other strings that are only playable for a week or so.
Well done - you told it as it is - nothing matches the feel and dynamics of natural gut. Enjoyed the very honest look at the brands - I agree, tried them all... Might want to mention that denser string patterns match natural gut's dynamics and lets that gut last far longer. For a special treat, find some pre-BT7 VS - add a 16X20 or 18X20 patterned racquet and Whew. You will nod in agreement with the fact that natural gut cannot be replicated by any synthetic... A whole new dimension comes to serving... Thanks for telling it as it is - especially with the brands... always enjoy your thoughts...
I find gut to be too powerful even at 60+ pounds in a hybrid setup as the mains. I would have to change my swing pattern so I brush up on the ball more rather than through. While gut is more expensive, if you're not a string-breaker, gut could be a cheaper solution because of how well it holds tension. You basically don't have to restring it until it breaks. You can also buy the string savers to enhance the life of gut. Lastly, make sure whoever strings it knows how to handle it.
Im hoping the switch to gut hybrid gives me good results. I normally play full bed stiff poly because i want the tension maintenance but at 1.30mm i have to cut them after about 10 hours. Hopefully get 20 hours of good tension with gut in the mains
That's crazy. How long does this set up last. I tried babolat syngut 17g I the mains and volkl cyclone tour 18g in crosses and that didn't last 4 full sets, native about 2+ hrs of pay and the mains broke. I am gonna try next a multifill In three mains hopefully it will last longer than the syngut. I do have half a set babolat natgut coming and I'm debating should i put it In the mains or crosses to last me a little longer, re though i wanna try the fed djoker set up with gut I mains. If i brake it in 2hrs lime the syngut i will be sad.... Any advice
@@Sokeresa my setup lasts for about 2-3 weeks and I use the Fed string saver pattern. It's always odd because it's just a tiny portion of the poly that breaks.
@@Sokeresa multi lasts about the same as syngut. I used to string multi mains with syngut crosses because that lasts longer than multi fullbed. I break multi mains / poly crosses within 2h. It's ok, just get another racquet. Better breaking strings often than risk developing risk/elbow/shoulder issues and not being able to play.
Babolat vs gut on my mains and solinco poly on my crosses. 50/48 lbs. Natural gut is PRICEY. But I have to say this setup and tension really upped the feel and playability on my pure aero vs.
So far i have tried Klip and Babolat natural gut. Personally, Babolat is too springy for me. I prefer Klip Legend 16 or 17 more. Trying Wilson next. The issue that forced me to try others than Klip is that their delay of delivery. I cannot get them since 2022.
Excellent mate! I own the same racquet which feels amazing, however I was thinking to switch it to gut hybrid! What cross poly you suggest and what tensions for gut/poly??
@@michaelobgy if you don't have any elbow issues, hybrid it with luxilon alu power rough at 54 pounds for both the gut and poly. If you want even more pop use klipper zyex on the crosses for more comfort,feel and pop at 48 pounds
Hi! Thank you for all the videos! I am thinking about moving to natural gut due to arm problems. I currently use either poly sonic pro or lynx , and string my racket to 23.5 (22-27). Do you think I should string it at the same weight? PS I am also thinking to do either the babolat or wilson hybrid with natural gut, so I can keep the spin effect of the poly. Is this a legit option or should I go for the full natural gut? Thanx!!!
Klip or Klip Springer is one of the oldest gut manufacturers in the world, over a hundred years. Try Klip Legend string you'll find it better in some ways to Babolat VS.
An informative video, as usual, thank you. On a different subject, is it worth your time doing a session on tennis sensors? I had a Sony tennis sensor which I found useful (real time data + video) but it is no longer in production. Are there any worthy such devises out there that fit rackets other than those made by Head? The market for tennis sensors was promising a few years ago but it seems that has all but disappeared. What do you think?
That would be a good topic. FYI - I used the Babolat Pop for about 6 months. Gave some good info which could be of use depending on your goal. One giant negative - doesn’t tie the reading with the shot - your fastest groundstrokes could have gone long or into the net. But if you’re modifying your grip or stroke and want to see the speed/spin difference one of the sensors could be useful.
Luxilon gut is not bad now, used to be but i just put in in with confidential in the crosses and it feels as good as my usual babolat gut. will see how it does after a few sets
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In instruments it is in fact called "cat gut", it's not referring to a cat the animal. It is still from a cow, the cat is short for cattle.....cattle gut is what it is, hence "cat gut"......believe it or not, they are essentially the same thing violin and tennis strings.
Actually, under heat and moisture, gut doesn't lose tension but becomes more brittle and less elastic and so more prone to fraying and hence why it will break more easily. In the olden days before climate control bags, my gut used to sometimes break whilst in my bag !!
Hi i am from indonesia.. i have been watching your channel.. i have bought natural gut by babolat.. but i am anxious to use it.. since many of my friend told me that do not use natural gut tennis string both on the main and cross. They told me better use combination of natural and either poly or synthetic.. but some of my friend told me to use natural on the main and poly on the cross while other friend told the other way… so please tell me what is difrrence in the feel of both combination…? And for your information, i use rpm blast 18 everyday and now change to solinco hyper g 18 my tension use to be 50 on my yonex vcore 98. I play 4-5 times a week.. please give me feed back thank u
Where I live the air humidity is pretty high. What I'd like to know is what's the maximum air humidity (in %) in which you can use natural gut? How many times a week or month should you play with a gut strung racquet? I usually play one or two times a week for 2 to 3 hours a session. Would that be enough?
I personally do not think humidity is that much of a problem unless it condenses onto the string (which normally should not happen even in if you live in the tropics). However, any water droplets (from rain or misting) that hits uncoated gut will very quickly result in deterioration of the gut and, not long after, a breakage. Or if you hit a wet ball. I know this from experience and always bring a racquet strung with a synthetic material (ie, a multi) when I anticipate rain or if there are puddles on the court.
What happened with Blue Star synthetic gut. That use to fray. Have not seen it in 30plus yrs and it played great. I remember many synthetic strings use to have mire feel years ago. Btw i do not like poly
Biphase really doesnt move too much. Don't go too low with the tension. I strung Biphase at 20/19 KGs and it didn't move significantly. However, I played 18/20 string pattern. Of course, I didn't spin the ball like Rafa.... in that case poly is the way to go :)
@@elg0rdo351 I play Head Extreme MP, 24-28 kg recommended tension, so I tried Biphase at 27/27... still moving after few hours... and it's general problem with multifilaments - they move and do not snap back (
@@artemmitsynskyy2990 Okay, I think in that frame every multifilament string will move. Mmmh... other might see this differently but that frame fits better for polyester strings. It's a frame for extreme spin play and multifilament strings aren't good in that department so that combination doesn't really makes sense.
Hi Tennis spin, thanks for the vids, definitely love them! I'm a 25 yo man who plays with an aero and now I feel like I get too much help from the racket at least in terms of spin and power, so what racket should I buy to improve my game? By the way I'm somewhat like a beginner to intermediate player and I can pretty much hit through the ball consistently. Thanks!
The stringing machine will pull the string a couple pounds tighter (what you set it to) then back off to set tension. It takes away some pop from the string. Personally I think it makes it a little stiff until you break it in for Wilson gut and I don't do it. Maybe better on VS touch?
It looks like that, because you put the gut on the crosses. The only two reasons I can see for that, is because it strings easily, because it is soft and it is a pain in the ass to string a wire stiff string on the crosses. The second reason is to make more money from stringing, because gut on the crosses lasts 10 times less then gut on the mains.
@@Sokeresa i don't know where you are and what are your prices but in europe babolat vs touch, the best, starts at 32€ if you order from the UK, and 36€ onwards in the eurozone. their lower grade, tonic, is cheaper than vs touch. völkl natural gut is certainly more expensive than that.
Robert it dates back thousands of years they used it in bow strings for hunting. I made a video about how they do it if you want to learn more, check my Klip gut video!
What tension should I apply to the kilp legend natual gut 17? I just bought a Prince racket for my gf and just found out the kilp legend natual gut 17... can someone also explain to me how does the numbering works, is 58 tighter then 52?
The best was VS gut in a Stan Smith wooden racquet, nothing felt so good. Gut is not made as well these days, doesn’t last as long, probably because the racquets are stiffer. It’s a waste of money in stiffer racquets.
Man this is like therapy. You’re the Bob Ross of tennis.
True
Haha good one.
"If you are addicted to it, I hope you are rich!" LOL! You are too funny! LOL!
For anyone in a hurry, 7:35 is where the comparison of different gut strings starts.
Good informative video... with breakage around the corners, I would expect that is worse problem is some 1-piece stringing patters? Since nat gut is only sold in packs, I suppose it's going to always be advisable to string in 2 pieces to avoid the 270-degree bend on the long side (or multiple 270-degree turns with some patterns). Is there an issue where the extra knots would put more stress on the string and cause more chance of breakage?
Was waiting for you to say ‘everyone should treat themselves’ - completely agree. Even the hybrid mains.
You may have undersold it - I think the feel is more than 10% - it’s incredible.
you are the best just reconected with tennis 18 years later and your channel is the best.!!! thanks for the great content.
Not sure if it’s captured in the other comments but the other huge reason to use gut in addition to playability is comfort on your arm. I have had elbow issues so my default setup is VS Gut mains with a reasonably soft poly in the crosses like Hyper G or Black Code.
I love this guy. He’s deep in to the game.
I agree with tennis spin. As an experienced tennis stringer, I have had customers bring back a racquet strung with gut with a strange breakage on the side. The customer said that he left it in his car for 3 days in the summer heat and claimed that the string is defective.
I explained the situation to them and they didn’t believe me. 🤔
I work in a pro shop we do all racket sports. It's a similar but worse problem in badminton, so many think they're pros and string up their rackets 28lbs and above with the nicer thin strings when the most they should be doing is 25 lbs. They come back and complain a few days later when the string is broken at the top from a misshit, like you can't be stringing it that tight if you're hitting shank after shank the string can't handle that on the edges of the frame 😂
In Addition to the Babolat VS and Luxilon (which is stiffer for sure) I Used Volkl (yellow colored) and it was not coated, not very powered and very soft. So used it in full bed on the Wilson Blade 98 18x20 - it was amesome, I had the best tennis ever with it despite the racket was heavier that I could manage (after that I could not use it with polyester strings and sold). This shows how much different natural gut and other tennis strings are!
I have used both Wilson gut and Babolat VS gut and definitely prefer VS. The pop and feel from VS is unreal and noticeable, difference. I have also used it as a hybrid (with 4g) for longevity purposes. It doesn’t feel the same but suits its purpose. Yes, if you are a 5.0 and have never tried natural gut then definitely give it a try. Players below that level may feel some “differences” but won’t be able to appreciate the true differences.
Thanks for the video. I concur with your assessment and appreciate your heads up on the other 2 brands of gut. I will check them out sometime in the future. Best, Don
FYI - I got tired of paying Wilson's price for Champ's choice, so for the last few years I've been stringing my racquets with Klip gut & Luxilon ALU Rough 17G. The cost for both is about the same as Champ's choice, but you'll get 2 racquets strung for that price. I love the feel and power I get from the hybrid.
As he says, don't get it wet, use your racquet a lot and hit the cover off the ball.
Good info on gut! Keep pushing out the quality content man!
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Tennis spin manages it really well to address topics of interests. That's what I like the most about this channel. It's very interesting. I would love to see longer clips, tho or some kind of podcast. Maybe with fellow stringers or manufacturers.
I remember the first set of natural gut string I tried was Pacific. Pacific was about USD14 to 15 cheaper than Babolat if converted to US dollars from my currency.
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Hey Tennis Spin! It would be great if you make a video comparing the "feel" on contact, with gut, multis, syn gut, and polys.
Like what you feel just as you touch the ball...the amount of stretch from the strings...the sensations as the ball leaves... and the sensations end up with. Thanks for another good video man! Cheers from Guayaquil, Ecuador.
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Klip gut comes in coated, black or clear coat and non coated. It's been made for around 100 years in Melbourne . Very reasonably-priced down under. I really like it as a string. Works great in control rackets.
VS is great, god its expensive though
I pay $16. For a full set of good gut. Including shipping. I never buy VS or Wilson.
@@BIGLOVE4TRUTH Which brand? Where do you buy it? Please share.
@@Andrebezerra wholesale natural gut
But in the end if you dont brake the strings natural gut will stay playable longer than other strings which means you dont need to restring as much. That means it doesnt pay as much in the long run. Right?
just used my new pure strikes 18x20 for the first time today. strung with a full bed of VS natural gut @ 60 pounds. heavenly!
Natural gut. The best string you’ll ever experience. I love Natural Gut in the mains with a poly cross
Completely agree
Yep, I use gut in the mains of my Ezone. Then kirschbaum pro line II or RPM Blast in the crosses. 55/53 or 52. I have used the Wilson natural gut. There is a guy in San Diego that sells cheaper uncoated gut. The Klip I didn’t like as much.
Why wouldn't you use the polyester on the mains and natural gut on crosses?? I would presume that would be a wiser setup. Putting poly on the cross in a hybrid setup is a waste. Natural gut on the mains and polys on the cross seems backwards to me. Does this method have a benefit?
@@big1matt its not that uncommon, people only put polys in the mains for durability because most people break mains. whichever string you want most benefit from should go on the mains. I hate to reference the pros but for example Roger Federer uses this very setup.
@@BIGLOVE4TRUTH I get my Gut from him. It’s really good quality and lasts quite a while. He is in Chula Vista.
another nice informative video, thanks! I use Klip gut in mains with poly crosses in lower power rackets, and usually poly gives up before the gut, so its quite durable, even in slightly humid conditions. its also more affordable and you can buy half strings too.. wilson I used but broke on the side. So I would have rated Klip a little better. thx
@Kutay Yurtsever Klip is my go to natural gut. Klip is great and I rate it way above the Wilson gut. I haven't used the Babolat gut but they have been making natural gut strings for 100+ years so it's probably #1.
I don't know about you, but I always break the Luxilon poly before I break the gut, unless the gut gets wet. I have racquets strung with RPM Blast 17G if it gets wet.
VS touch 16 black main at 46 + LXN smart 16L cross at 44 - tennis spin's a few month-old idea. Stringed with Klippermate drop weight. Gut black has a kind of figment, and it is somewhat transparent under strong light. It fades as used - it becomes like LXN smart gray.
Damn... I am addicted it to now... Love it!
I've had gut break in the bag over night after one hit, but also had gut last 6 months hitting on and off. Also seen multi break over night shit happens lol
Wagyu natural gut
eat it right after it breaks 😂
My opinion is that the playable longevity of gut is unmatched. I have never broken a gut string, and I always string gut in mains with poly in crosses. I play till gut fray’s really bad and it retains good playability throughout fraying as well. I think because of this, gut is actually more cost effective for me than other strings that are only playable for a week or so.
Absolutely!
I've been using the full natural gut that came with the racquet for like 7 months playing 2 times a week XD
Still looking strong.
Well done - you told it as it is - nothing matches the feel and dynamics of natural gut. Enjoyed the very honest look at the brands - I agree, tried them all... Might want to mention that denser string patterns match natural gut's dynamics and lets that gut last far longer. For a special treat, find some pre-BT7 VS - add a 16X20 or 18X20 patterned racquet and Whew. You will nod in agreement with the fact that natural gut cannot be replicated by any synthetic... A whole new dimension comes to serving...
Thanks for telling it as it is - especially with the brands... always enjoy your thoughts...
I want to try playing with natural gut. However I fear that i will get addicted to the strings though.
So, what precautions needs to be taken when stringing with natural gut?
Babalot gut has a coating that makes it far more water resistant than in the old days. I've got 3 months play out of gut AFTER it was soaking wet.
What are the differences between natural and synthetic gut?
I find gut to be too powerful even at 60+ pounds in a hybrid setup as the mains. I would have to change my swing pattern so I brush up on the ball more rather than through. While gut is more expensive, if you're not a string-breaker, gut could be a cheaper solution because of how well it holds tension. You basically don't have to restring it until it breaks. You can also buy the string savers to enhance the life of gut. Lastly, make sure whoever strings it knows how to handle it.
Im hoping the switch to gut hybrid gives me good results. I normally play full bed stiff poly because i want the tension maintenance but at 1.30mm i have to cut them after about 10 hours. Hopefully get 20 hours of good tension with gut in the mains
I've used Wilson Champions Choice several times gut on the mains and only once has the gut broken before the poly. I find that so odd.
That's crazy. How long does this set up last. I tried babolat syngut 17g I the mains and volkl cyclone tour 18g in crosses and that didn't last 4 full sets, native about 2+ hrs of pay and the mains broke. I am gonna try next a multifill In three mains hopefully it will last longer than the syngut. I do have half a set babolat natgut coming and I'm debating should i put it In the mains or crosses to last me a little longer, re though i wanna try the fed djoker set up with gut I mains. If i brake it in 2hrs lime the syngut i will be sad....
Any advice
@@Sokeresa my setup lasts for about 2-3 weeks and I use the Fed string saver pattern. It's always odd because it's just a tiny portion of the poly that breaks.
@@Sokeresa multi lasts about the same as syngut. I used to string multi mains with syngut crosses because that lasts longer than multi fullbed. I break multi mains / poly crosses within 2h. It's ok, just get another racquet. Better breaking strings often than risk developing risk/elbow/shoulder issues and not being able to play.
I had the same experience with de Champions Choice
@@Sokeresa try luxilon 4g. It's rugged, tough.
It’s not cheap but it’s a treat lmfao… I love it 🥰 Merry Christmas I subbed
The best string for feel no doubt to me
Very good Information! You are very knowledgeable and great listening to you buddy. Keep it up!
Do the packs have a date on them -- how do you know if its old or not when you purchase it?
Babolat vs gut on my mains and solinco poly on my crosses. 50/48 lbs.
Natural gut is PRICEY. But I have to say this setup and tension really upped the feel and playability on my pure aero vs.
How do you maintain gut? Any treatments?
i really like yoiur content, youve helped me know a lot about tennis !
Nice video, as always. Now I feel a need to try out the gut.
Get Klip Legend - Australian gut. About 30 bucks - full bed.
Ernie thank you so much! I’ll look out for some.
Do you use pre-stretch when stringing natural gut? What is a appropriate tension for a full bed? Do you charge extra for stringing natural?
Here in the Philippines - we pre- stretch nat gut before stringing, they charge extra, bec of the extra time & effort to string those nat guts
Good job Thanks for covering gut!!!
If cost isn't an issue and you enjoy tennis gut is worth a try,.
Used pacific natural guts made in New Zealand back then
It isn’t made in Hawera any more?
Sometimes, I feel like the majority of 10-15 min UA-cam videos can be summarized in 50 words or less. Quality content though.
It's the entertainment factor that counts
But if the video was a minute long, nobody would watch it 🤷♂️
SSS C facts
NonStopFilmer and monetizing the video 😏
I like the hear all the facts is really interesting.
this is something else!
So far i have tried Klip and Babolat natural gut.
Personally, Babolat is too springy for me. I prefer Klip Legend 16 or 17 more. Trying Wilson next.
The issue that forced me to try others than Klip is that their delay of delivery. I cannot get them since 2022.
I have played with all the big brand natural guts. Luxilon gut 17g was very firm but very durable. I used it in the yonex vcore 97 HD.
Excellent mate! I own the same racquet which feels amazing, however I was thinking to switch it to gut hybrid! What cross poly you suggest and what tensions for gut/poly??
@@michaelobgy if you don't have any elbow issues, hybrid it with luxilon alu power rough at 54 pounds for both the gut and poly. If you want even more pop use klipper zyex on the crosses for more comfort,feel and pop at 48 pounds
i also hope that I am rich
Hi!
Thank you for all the videos!
I am thinking about moving to natural gut due to arm problems. I currently use either poly sonic pro or lynx , and string my racket to 23.5 (22-27). Do you think I should string it at the same weight?
PS I am also thinking to do either the babolat or wilson hybrid with natural gut, so I can keep the spin effect of the poly. Is this a legit option or should I go for the full natural gut?
Thanx!!!
Klip or Klip Springer is one of the oldest gut manufacturers in the world, over a hundred years.
Try Klip Legend string you'll find it better in some ways to Babolat VS.
Please talk about kevlar strings
Forten brand has kevlar strings
@@mylesgalos6465 ashaway, ebox... Too
The point is what is the benefit to use it, tension, setup, nuances etc
Kevlar hybrid ( forten ) strings are very durable, but hard on the elbows. I stopped using it
@@mylesgalos6465 just lower tension
@@monlewi1976 @ 65, cant play as much i use to do. Vs nat hybrid gut my preference.
An informative video, as usual, thank you.
On a different subject, is it worth your time doing a session on tennis sensors? I had a Sony tennis sensor which I found useful (real time data + video) but it is no longer in production. Are there any worthy such devises out there that fit rackets other than those made by Head? The market for tennis sensors was promising a few years ago but it seems that has all but disappeared. What do you think?
That would be a good topic.
FYI - I used the Babolat Pop for about 6 months. Gave some good info which could be of use depending on your goal. One giant negative - doesn’t tie the reading with the shot - your fastest groundstrokes could have gone long or into the net. But if you’re modifying your grip or stroke and want to see the speed/spin difference one of the sensors could be useful.
Luxilon gut is not bad now, used to be but i just put in in with confidential in the crosses and it feels as good as my usual babolat gut. will see how it does after a few sets
I break strings after 6 hours of playing time. Suggestions?
Love ur vids! Keep it up
I really like nat'l gut but the cost prevents me from buying it. I use multifiber strings as a substitute for gut.
Babolat also made Tonic which are lower priced gut about $36 a set vs the VS' $43
Lov y man ... y help me a lot !!!!
So you must get your strings wholesale, but you don’t use gut, how come?
How come you switched hats at the end! =)
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What tension would you recommend for an 11 year old, trying cut for the first time?
Random fact: Babolat vs strings smell like coconut 🥥 out of the package. Hahaa.
Does babolat vs touch snaps back?
How about giving away some rackets all the way here in the Philippines
Linseed oil is good for treating natural gut strings to last longer in great humidity. Cheap, too!
Waiting for linen strings to hit the market
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Hope you can drive to Northern California bay area
In instruments it is in fact called "cat gut", it's not referring to a cat the animal. It is still from a cow, the cat is short for cattle.....cattle gut is what it is, hence "cat gut"......believe it or not, they are essentially the same thing violin and tennis strings.
Great feel but way to expensive. Especially since most recreational players won’t get the advantage.
what happen if one uses natural gut strings on a badminton racket ?
What is the outcome if I use gut in the cross and poly like Hyper G in the main?
Guys whats the recommended tension for n guts strings ! Should keep it at high tension or low relatively!!
Actually, under heat and moisture, gut doesn't lose tension but becomes more brittle and less elastic and so more prone to fraying and hence why it will break more easily. In the olden days before climate control bags, my gut used to sometimes break whilst in my bag !!
Now, i know why the tennis racquet string is called gut. It is from a cow gut. Very informative.
Hi i am from indonesia.. i have been watching your channel.. i have bought natural gut by babolat.. but i am anxious to use it.. since many of my friend told me that do not use natural gut tennis string both on the main and cross. They told me better use combination of natural and either poly or synthetic.. but some of my friend told me to use natural on the main and poly on the cross while other friend told the other way… so please tell me what is difrrence in the feel of both combination…? And for your information, i use rpm blast 18 everyday and now change to solinco hyper g 18 my tension use to be 50 on my yonex vcore 98. I play 4-5 times a week.. please give me feed back thank u
Where I live the air humidity is pretty high.
What I'd like to know is what's the maximum air humidity (in %) in which you can use natural gut?
How many times a week or month should you play with a gut strung racquet?
I usually play one or two times a week for 2 to 3 hours a session. Would that be enough?
I personally do not think humidity is that much of a problem unless it condenses onto the string (which normally should not happen even in if you live in the tropics). However, any water droplets (from rain or misting) that hits uncoated gut will very quickly result in deterioration of the gut and, not long after, a breakage. Or if you hit a wet ball. I know this from experience and always bring a racquet strung with a synthetic material (ie, a multi) when I anticipate rain or if there are puddles on the court.
I like my women with a little natural gut.
What happened with Blue Star synthetic gut. That use to fray. Have not seen it in 30plus yrs and it played great. I remember many synthetic strings use to have mire feel years ago. Btw i do not like poly
what is your advise on multifilament full bed and hybrid stringing - strings move and do not snap back - you need to manually move them back
Biphase really doesnt move too much. Don't go too low with the tension. I strung Biphase at 20/19 KGs and it didn't move significantly. However, I played 18/20 string pattern. Of course, I didn't spin the ball like Rafa.... in that case poly is the way to go :)
@@elg0rdo351 I play Head Extreme MP, 24-28 kg recommended tension, so I tried Biphase at 27/27... still moving after few hours... and it's general problem with multifilaments - they move and do not snap back (
@@artemmitsynskyy2990 Okay, I think in that frame every multifilament string will move. Mmmh... other might see this differently but that frame fits better for polyester strings. It's a frame for extreme spin play and multifilament strings aren't good in that department so that combination doesn't really makes sense.
no guts no glory
Wanted to ask you why is there no extreme pro available in the United States ?
Hi Tennis spin, thanks for the vids, definitely love them! I'm a 25 yo man who plays with an aero and now I feel like I get too much help from the racket at least in terms of spin and power, so what racket should I buy to improve my game? By the way I'm somewhat like a beginner to intermediate player and I can pretty much hit through the ball consistently. Thanks!
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Say, what do they mean when they "pre-stretch" a gut string?
The stringing machine will pull the string a couple pounds tighter (what you set it to) then back off to set tension. It takes away some pop from the string. Personally I think it makes it a little stiff until you break it in for Wilson gut and I don't do it. Maybe better on VS touch?
@@javace79 it helps with tension maintenance
Hybrid lasts a bit longer too though I never seem to break strings
so do you string it at the same tension as a poly?
It looks like that, because you put the gut on the crosses. The only two reasons I can see for that, is because it strings easily, because it is soft and it is a pain in the ass to string a wire stiff string on the crosses. The second reason is to make more money from stringing, because gut on the crosses lasts 10 times less then gut on the mains.
Mr Tennis spin, Volkl also make nat gut. Any thoughts on that or you haven't tried?
Many brands have natural gut, but they don't make it, someone else makes it for them.
@@userdjee834 ok so what's the verdict on volkl nat gut? Who makes it and hoe does it compare do you know
@@Sokeresa all good european natural gut are babolat (and luxilon/wilson). i've never played with völkl natural gut but it's 99% sure babolat
@@userdjee834 awesome, then how conne ita so much cheaper if it is babolat then? Im just curious
@@Sokeresa i don't know where you are and what are your prices but in europe babolat vs touch, the best, starts at 32€ if you order from the UK, and 36€ onwards in the eurozone. their lower grade, tonic, is cheaper than vs touch. völkl natural gut is certainly more expensive than that.
String savers promote string life.
Just because something is natural does not mean it is necessarily better or superior. So it is not the reason it is the best type of string.
Polymer killed my elbow. Now i am using gut. Expensive but at least i can play tennis!,!! No option unfortunately
I’m too manly for gut. I put out too much power on my champs choice hybrid.
I wonder who decided that cows guts would be used for tennis strings and how they came up with the process to make it look like a tennis string.
Before i think they used sheep guts, hence lamb guts
More cows than lambs
@@mylesgalos6465 Same question with sheep guts.
Robert it dates back thousands of years they used it in bow strings for hunting. I made a video about how they do it if you want to learn more, check my Klip gut video!
@@EvokeTennis Thanks that makes sense. By the way I actually have seen your video a while back.
Where is your store located? (Address?)
What tension should I apply to the kilp legend natual gut 17? I just bought a Prince racket for my gf and just found out the kilp legend natual gut 17... can someone also explain to me how does the numbering works, is 58 tighter then 52?
King of guts that's me
you have to string the luxilon gut 10 percent looser than your normal tension.
What 5-6 lbs less? What's that a "natural poly". That's crazy if its true
Naked gut is the absolute best
The best was VS gut in a Stan Smith wooden racquet, nothing felt so good. Gut is not made as well these days, doesn’t last as long, probably because the racquets are stiffer. It’s a waste of money in stiffer racquets.
I still use full gut in a Pro Saff Classic (72 stiffness)...its lasts as long or longer than it ever did.