BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!! I'm not denying that Herta is one of the best damage dealers currently and has very good future potential as we go into 3.0, but currently her performance with a sustain at E0 isn't that great (well, compared to Aglaea that is). She is a good value pull, but as of right now for people who play with a sustain (most people) Aglaea is a much better pick, the only catch is that you will need either Sunday or Huo Huo (preferably both), if you have the right pieces for her, she is currently the strongest dps with a sustain on the team. But you can't go wrong with either of them. GET Upto 23% OFF On Stellar Jades! Safe & Convenient! All you need is UID & Server! 👉Visit Lootbar: lootbar.gg/top-up/honkai-star-rail? Lootbar's Official Discord: discord.com/invite/mAhSYy6NpJ Join my discord: discord.com/invite/TT2APFrKDe
The gap gets bigger between aglaea and herta in no sustain for single target damage especially with eidolons. I believe tribbie will equal the field though. When row enemies come i expect herta to be the best choice for them also.
I pulled Sunday as was expecting him to be extremely important in the summon meta. But I already have a well build Acheron team. I wish Aglaea was ANY other element than lightning...
@@AdamNRG316 Maybe you should wait for Castorice then. She is said to be Quantum Remembrance and according leaks (I don't know how reliable they are) her damage will be Acheron-level.
@@mathyrajaonoelina6612 Yeah honestly I'm thinking of doing that. Wasn't sure what her element was going to be though. Apparently she also uses a scythe so I was instantly sold anyway haha. I don't have a quantum dps so maybe I just need to resist the temptation to pull and wait.
Honestly. I’m just scared that Herta might end up like kafka. Kafka had so much room to improve and we all thought it’ll eventually come but here we are. I know kafka isn’t emanator or that important to the story (yet) but hoyo tends to release units with “potential” and abandon them. Not just kafka, jl, blade also never got their best in slot teammates. But we’ll see how it’ll change with “hp meta” on the horizon.
You’re right, unfortunately. In this game, Hoyo pumps out so many new shiny units that it becomes impossible to ‘fix’ and buff them all. People act like they did with Jing Yuan, yet no one plays him and even fewer people will once we move to 3.0. Then look at a unit like Xiao in Genshin, who was buffed so much he can actually keep up with the current meta. Although Hoyo is leaning into powercreep more and more in Genshin too. It just makes them more money than rerunning older units.
Also we're facing HP inflation and harder content. Acheron used to work fine with two Nihility characters and a sustain but now she needs supports like Jiaoqiu, Robin, Aventurine and Sunday which is expensive. Jing Yuan got a buff but it isn't strong enough to keep up with newer characters. I think Hoyo needs to make content that suits all character play styles or buff older characters to keep up with newer ones
I mean, Kafka still has a Lot of potencial knowing that She's the only one that can trigger DoT over and over She just needs more teammates And Even so His Best team RN isnt doing that Bad tbh
Kafka its not "that good" Shes engraved in a pedestal in the DoT teams cause shes the only one that can detonate ALL dots Shes an 1.x unit and she can barely compete since her detonations are really slow
tbh, just pull for the dpses you like. supports will always be good so you can pull for whoever you want when it comes to them as well. just invest in your dps (not vertically other than an lc) and you'll be good. herta's investment requirements currently are much lower than aglaea's who needs sunday badly (not as badly as jing yuan, but still. she's not gonna perform as well as herta without sunday) herta on the other hand has very low cost teams. hell, you can run 1 cost with herta-serval-rmc-gallagher and it's still really good (and two cost teams make it so much better like swapping out rmc for sunday or gallagher for lingsha/aventurine.) not to mention, tribbie will likely be a herta support so...yeah me personally, im gonna pull for lingsha to make up for my lack of a limited healer (+ i can be more comfortable with my break team) and save for mydei and castorice who are supposed to be played together in a dual dps team. castorice at the very least is said to be VERY good meta wise and i really like them both so im just gonna save for them to fill a 4th team slot tbh. i have fua, summon, break and then I'll have hp manipulation so it's goated
@Super-7327 okay break - ff, rm, hmc, gallagher (soon lingsha 🙏) fua - ratio, topaz, robin, aventurine summon - jing yuan, sunday, robin, aventurine fua and summon do have overlapping characters but i don't use the fua team that often anymore. if i really have to play them together then i just use fu xuan and ruan mei with jing yuan and sunday. hopefully i can build rmc alongside hmc and use rmc when i have to use those 2 teams together lol
she gets shilled by the trotter buff in the next moc and then by summoning bosses on both sides in moc after that (ensuring there are enough trashmobs around to farm stacks), so she'll totally be tier0 omegabroken must pull ..then the shilling will end and people will cry about "powercreep"
@@obamassirname9190 what exactly is wrong with the (implied) opinion that herta is just an aoe focused char (who will get content tailored to her strengths) and not some turbobusted balance killer?
God forbid the emanator of erudition struggles against st scenarios. Where she doesn't actually struggle... serval+tribbie (leaks albeit) seem to be an insane combo for stack gen meaning that therta won't actually as bad as yall schizo doom posters make her out to be.
this is what is gonna happen with feixiao and they're just smart enough to rerun her before people catch onto the fact that there are no single target or wind weak bosses in most of 3.x 💀🙏
she's a risky investment simply because how op she is. if we start 3.0 with the herta power level then imagine how the later character power level will be. besides the power level in early 3.x won't be so bad you can't use your older metas to deal with those endgame contents and so the better decision is to just wait till 3.1/3.2 to get a clear view of how the meta will progress.
Herta isn't as strong as Aglaea right now but thats cause Aglaea's team is already done, its really hard to see how any part of her team could get upgraded. Herta's best team doesn't even exist yet, Tribbie should be her tailored support and they can release another erudition to be her Jiaoqiu like they did for Acheron
To be fair, Aglaea's team still has room for another harmony IMO. Sunday and HuoHuo are BiS but Robin and RMC only really work with her because they're busted in general. If they wanted to, they could make a harmony that is actually tailored towards energy.
Aglea might be better, but you have lightning dps substitues like acheron and jing yuan is viable with sunday. The next best ice dps is Jingliu, so I feel like because of that Herta has more pull value than Aglea.
I don't want to sound like I'm denying your logic, since it's a good point but sadly with 3 enemy weaknesses and the fact that a lot of ice enemies have quantum or lightning weakness, it means castorice/aglaea/jingyuan/acheron will be clearing regardless
0:00 Apart from the content in the video, The cold blue & mysterious background theme song is really suite Madam Herta the Witch. It gives a atmosphere of magical witch roaming at night 🌙
i don't mind it personally, and i believe future supports will boost her value, so i will be getting her e0s0, then together with a battery Serval, Remembrance Trailblazer (at least for now) and my e1 Lingsha.
im confused tho.. is hertas performance not great in this video? She cleared svarog in 2 cycles which is her worst scenario (no ice weak + a boss that doesnt summon adds
What people care about most is being good at all 3 game modes she doesn't have to be the best. Acheron even after all the doomposting is still good at all 3 game modes especially pure fiction and isn't too disadvantaged even in single target focused scenario like Svarog, Hoolay, Sam or Aventurine.
Honestly if Tribbies kit is true, shes gonna be an INSANE support for Jade/Therta combo as Jades Debt Collector and in turn a Therta Enabler. Tribbies speculative kit is: Basic attack is Blast Talent is AOE Followup when allies use damaging ult (or ult in general) Ultimate is a field that lets her do an AOE attack when an ally gets attacked. If these are true, Jade will be THE BiS for Therta IF you have Tribbie (which you should if want to actually invest in your Therta for clearing non PF endgame). Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Lingsha or Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Robin (even with anti synergy, but its Robin so it will work with the amount of hits these units will do) or Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Lingsha or Therta/Jade/Tribbie/RMC (RMC ult is aoe + Mems ora ora) or Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Sunday (Ofc, AV and Energy for Therta always appreciated) But ofc Therta/Serval/Tribbie is still viable, but nowhere Jade/Tribbie if the speculation kit is actually true.
Imo, both Herta and Aglaea are bait, theyre holding the real powerhouses like Castorice for later. Aglaea is strong but her team is pretty much built and done, leaving little room for improvement, however THerta is FAR from done, you could argue the only BIS member she has is Lingsha, otherwise she lacks a dedicated Support AND SubDPS because while Jade is good, THerta is no where near efficient enough for stack generation. Tribbie is coming, seems pretty good for THerta. But I can see Aglaea falling off a lot faster than THerta But either way Castorice will likely destroy them both
I even doubt that Castorice will be the strongest. Phainon is the most central figure of Amphoreus story, an expy of the most popular male character from the franchise (a character that was not playable) and he will probably end-up as a sort of "HSR Neuvillette".
I don't know much about HI3 as I've never played it. But the second I heard Castorice used a Scythe I was sold lol. Has her element been leaked yet? Also is she an expy from HI3 or a new character?
Tribbie apparently will solve her problems (?) but Robin is a very high bar to be surpassed and even if Tribbie manages to do that, the difference probably wont be too big. Considering that THerta's 1 slot being locked to erudition, it probably needs to be an erudition that serves as a great battery along with buffing capabilities to truly make her an "emanator". So i'm probably going to pull her when that time comes, assuming that such unit will be actualized and that she won't be powercrept by then...
she aint getting beaten in optimized 0 cycles if Tribbie does not have any AA, especially against 0 AV Robin ult on Wave 2. Ppl bash on Sunday for the very same reason, but fail to realize thats a bar that is unrealistic to achieve for basically any support. However for general play most definitely an upgrade
@@senseioct8564Therta needs a second erudition, thats the point of her kit even with tribbie and lingsha doing aoe attacks, her stack gen is neutered heavily without an erudition. also jade overrate serval can perform better in ST, and Herta 4* is a solid replacement. Jade is simply the consistent one but she lacks true synergy with THerta if Therta didnt need a second erudition we wouldve alr seen showcasers show off eruditionless teams with her, but we havent bcs its just not good
Honestly I Feel Like You only have 2 choices which is either getting robin and feixiao or the herta with jade,if your not a greedy player then just pull for robin and wait for reruns or wait for castorice,btw aglea isnt worth it,i mean shes good but she gets outshined by other dps's and other dps's coming later into the game
guys, wether you pull for big herta, aglaea, or use any 5 star limited dps thats well built with good teams, you'll 3 star MOC/PF/APOC and clear highish torment simuniverse modes. DO NOT FALL FOR FOMO GUYS THEY WANT YOU TO BE WORRIED
Herta has perhaps the best kit a character ever had in this game as a dps,she is an amazing dps,but if she gets powercreeped,she can act as the best erudition support unit with her 80% crit dmg bonus,I am not sure why they haven't made more characters like this in this game,we know damn well from genshin impact how people used Xiangling as a dps unit at the beginning of the game,but because of her amazing pyro application,she is still an S tier unit to this date,same can be said about Xinqiu as well,they had kits that allowed for incredibly versatile gameplay and Herta is a similar scenario,I am not pulling her because she is a strong dps unit that can surpass my feixiao/acheron/firefly teams,nope,they can probably do a great job still,but Herta cannot be powercreeped like those 3 can be,even if she gets powercreeped,she will live as the best erudition support
I really hope The Herta is a good character for a long time, she seems kinda "too simple". Right now the game is evolving to a place that just a crit dps isn't enough. Memosprites are gonna be a big thing for now on and Break will probably still be good for a while, my guess is next meta is gonna be DoT, so crit dps are in a weird position rn.
the way crit dpses are better than break teams rn.. Sunday robin rmc core is simply stronger than hmc fugue rm superbreak core. The only real reason break seems broken compared to crit is bcs it only needs BE as a stat so its floor is ridiculously high but its ceiling isnt able to match crit (again mostly bcs sunday robin is broken). its akin to hyperbloom in genshin. You also forget to mention mem dpses are also crit dpses, or that fua dpses are crit dpses, hp scalers (soon) or that acheron (debuff) and THerta (AoE) are crit dpses. Being a crit dps is inherently gonna make you scale better with better investment bcs robin sunday is just that strong, but you do need that investment otherwise it underperforms compared to the consistency of break. As for dot, nothing abt leaks atm suggest we will be getting any dot units. anaxa is 50/50 on being a dot unit or acheron unit its not a disadvantage being in the archetype that can give you 6-7 free 100% AA in a cycle with proper setup. This aint anything like ZZZ where anomaly dominates bcs it does not care abt the stun timing and windows
@@Wawawawawa750 yeah i mean, crit dpses are really good but with a LOT of investment. Even tho follow up and mems are crit, the way they work can allow you to exceed by a lot characters that are just dmg dealers for example Seele and Jingliu. Im not talking about powercreep, im mentioning them because all they do is straight up dmg in their skills and they scale with crit. Even with a non too invested Feixiao team with March 8 being free, is already better then a Seele team. i agree with you, break is good cuz its easy to build and to make it work, the ceiling dont need to be tremendously high because theres no need to, break will work wonders for a long while just with a coke and a sandwich, no investment at all. DoT is doomed for a while now, i know that because im a DoT main player lmao, but im sure they`ll start introducing more DoT stuff on 3.0 because theres no other archetype to buff but lets see. We also thought that Jingliu was gonna be the best character for a long while and she didnt lasted a patch, on paper shes the easiest and strongest character on the game, but theres nothing much going on for her to make her exceed. Same can happen with The Herta, i hope not cuz im planning on getting her E2. Lets pray gamers
People been focusing way too much on team archetypes when that means nothing in the face of powercreep you will still need to pull new characters if Hoyo decides that new characters will be better and double hp of enemies. Feixiao is better than Seele and Jingliu not because she is followup its because she simply has higher multipliers. You could use Feixiao in a hypercarry team with no folllowup characters and still beat Seele thats just powercreep. I would say Break is already struggling on the low investment Firefly and Ruan Mei both E0S0 with HMC and Gallagher use to easily 0-1 cycle content with mid relics now you need good relics for 3 cycle. Fugue is what brings the playstyle back up to 0-1 cycle but at that point you using full premium team. You shouldn't have anything to worry about if you have E2 Herta though just make sure you actually get whatever new supports come out as well. I still use E0S0 Jingliu.
Personally, I'm going to pull Lingsha then save for the collab + Meidei. The Herta has a great kit, but the collab characters are gonna be great too, I also like Meidei's design a bit more.
@@Godofwarrrs svarog literally has fire weakness? Also this is new HP thresholds, this MoC has 2M more Hp than the current one and it was totally off weakness. Forget whatever prior experience you had with current/past MoCs
Simply If U Pulling For Meta 0 Cycle Low Cost = Pull The Herta If U Casual Player And Have Sunday = Pull Agalaea. If U dont have sunday and casual player = Skip.
You've probably seen it a hundred times but, if you do like the design of castorice, leaks suggest she is very very strong as a quantum remembrance dps
So should i go for Therta, Aglaea, or just skip all if i don't have Sunday, Jade, and Lingsha? I have Huohuo and Robin but she's needed in Feixiao's team. And if i pull for one of them, should i pull for LC or E1? considering i probably only have 35 pulls at the end of the patch 2.7
Therta works extremely well and has an extremely high floor with pr without premium options. Aglaea without sunday = Huohuo Robin RMC only viable alternative team, if you can't let her take this team, she's not worth it for sundayless acc.
@@Wawawawawa750 I mean I'm obviously pulling for Sunday in his rerun, can't I just use Bronya/Tingyun while waiting for Sunday? Or do I REALLY need E1 Aglaea for that to work?
I think this team is super expensive and not a very good way to showcase her, sustainless is only so much of a gap right now because she's working on breadcrumbs of other people's teams. Aglaea is definitely just the worse value unit since her teams are finished up. I also disagree with the expressed sentiment below that Castorice will like, ruin Therta. Even if Mydei AND Castorice are the top 1 and 2 dps with Tribbie she should comfortably have a top 3 spot in most content and at worst maybe top 5? If a top 5 DPS with good performance in basically any mode is bait then I think we just shouldn't pull DPS. TLDR is she 1 cost 0 cycled legion sustain less and not even getting a 1 cycle with an 8 cost team is a clear and absurd showcase of how cope her current team setup is. I think you played fine its just genuinely so shocking how insane RMC truly is for a F2P unit
I think generally if the DPS is in Acheron/Yunli range or above they are worth the jades and you can reasonably expect them to do well in there own content for a good while. Even with how hyped Therta and Aglaea are they are actually still competitive and sometimes worse then older DPS making the "clear best" more of a facade.
Nah, HoS a super good TCers alr said that the difference between a sustainless and a sustain Therta team is huge. Same level of damage diff as an Acheron sustain vs sustainless Think abt it this way, the erudition on your team is basically just a battery for most fights (Serval/Jade/Herta all have similar level of performance). Thus, you only have one slot for a harmony unit. None of the eruditions do much for besides being a battery, it's not like Topaz/Moze/March who actually gives token amount of buffing for FuA and their damage is consistent unlike THerta's erudition partner basically being dead weight in ST That being said, a sustain team with her is like comfy 2-4 cycle (in line with 2.X Dpses) its just that sustainless can 0-cycle 3 Mil+ ST HP
Then pull Herta, Sunday is like premium Rmc, he advances her action and gives her energy , he is very good with her (you could also replace him with robin, she is also good with the herta but you will probably get skill point issues so RMC will be better). Huohuo is a great healer for any team expect break and with E1 you have a more skill point positive team which is good. You have a great team for The Herta, just remeber this aswell Herta is AN EMINATOR. Aglea's team is basically complete and she doesn't have room for much improvement, she has her best sup, best healer. The Herta hasn't received them yet. Tribie is sounding to be very good with her. (And as a emanator they will add more supports etc. for her to keep her relevant longer)
This team is kinda bad so no surprise if it's this weak, jade doesn't have much synergy since she can't make herta ult fast like serval and herself doesn't deal much dmg
Jade is fine though? Extra 30 spd means attack boots can be run(this video for some reason didn't do it)and someone like RMC is significantly better than Robin here. Heck, a team of Hyperspeed Gallagher with Multiplication LC, Sunday, The Herta and Jade would do significantly better here. After Tribbie releases, you'd want The Herta, Jade, Tribbie and Aventurine. (Aventurine because he can run sub dps really well with an extra 80% crit damage from The Herta).
@devika2545 not jade tho, serval with key lightcone 3s can be used in most scenarios, jade only as good if there's 5 mob, with that lightcones plus wind set, serval can ult every turn and activate wind set like craze, jade doesn't fit the herta pretty much, also robin isn't much weaker than rmc in herta team, maybe robin isn't as strong in sustain herta team but if you're strong enough to run a non sustain team then there's no better option than robin
@devika2545 most erudition won't go well with the herta, maybe some are decent but the finest of them all no matter the scenarios is serval not jade, you should test it first bruh, I have the beta test server, would you like one to test, I have played so I know that everything you said isn't quite true
Gallagher can be used as a F2P option, although it won't be as effective damage wise because of The Herta stacks especially, he has the advantage of being much less SP hungry than Lingsha, important if you don't have the S0 for The Herta. If you have Adventurine is nice, since the FUA helps The Herta. HuoHuo has the advantage of the energy regenation, but it won't help with stacks for The Herta. In the end, going with a good sustain will be enough, will increase the number of turns necessary to beat the level, but you don't need a 2 cycle, you need a 10 cycle in both runs in the end of the day. I know it is possible to beat it without a sustain for a 0 to 1 cycle with a team similar to the one shown in the video, if you have the resourses characters/relics/LC, of course
@@BailuGaming it’s such a shitty point to make? Picking a team twice as expensive to not have limited eidolons and perform worse is just mental illness
@@Kazjire The purpose of this video is not to show a ceiling performance. People would go to Xolze, HoS or BiliBili if they wanted that(mainly HoS and Bilibili cuz Xolze ain't leaking). In case you failed to realize, the purpose of this video is to be a more casual friendly showcase. Prioritizing things like less RNG, lower stats requirement on the entire team, comfier play. People who do care about the optimizations that can be made to reach a higher ceiling aren't the type of people who are here seeking for advice. You should read the context of the situation before commenting anything. Instead of forcing your own point of view in a place where people clearly don't have the same goals as you.
feixiao if you want follow up or bronya robin, Therta extremely high damage floor can work with or without premium options, Aglaea without Sunday only has Huohuo Robin RMC as a viable team, and its still worse than sunday teams
Aglea without Sunday is not that good, Feixiao is a good choice however I think the Herta will be more in the meta as a 3.0 dps and has the most room for improvement. Imo pull Herta
Herta is far from mid..? Keep in mind this is her performance without her BiS harmony (Tribbie) and she’ll probably get a BiS erudition like acheron got jiaoqiu. even lingsha isnt really made for this team
Nonesense you just need to use RMC with the Herta Robin and Lingsha/aventurine.. but that is not fair and doesn't benefit her erudition bonus, she doesn't need the erudition bonus only if you fail to make stacks. the Action Advance of Robin and RMC makes up for the lack of a erudition character and the damage output of True Damage makes things easier. Cause MeMe action advance doesn't cost a Skill point.. what.. look if you love Algaea just pull E1 that is it. but we don't have the jade, well you need to pull Robin and Hou Hou anyway to make Algaea BIS. What about tribbie Herta BIS. well that is true, but then again Robin E1 Provides Res Pen. but the whole key in 3.0 meta is RMC true damage. (bonus damage that ignores toughness and % of the orginal attack hit)
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I'm not denying that Herta is one of the best damage dealers currently and has very good future potential as we go into 3.0, but currently her performance with a sustain at E0 isn't that great (well, compared to Aglaea that is).
She is a good value pull, but as of right now for people who play with a sustain (most people) Aglaea is a much better pick, the only catch is that you will need either Sunday or Huo Huo (preferably both), if you have the right pieces for her, she is currently the strongest dps with a sustain on the team. But you can't go wrong with either of them.
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The gap gets bigger between aglaea and herta in no sustain for single target damage especially with eidolons. I believe tribbie will equal the field though. When row enemies come i expect herta to be the best choice for them also.
I pulled Sunday as was expecting him to be extremely important in the summon meta. But I already have a well build Acheron team. I wish Aglaea was ANY other element than lightning...
@@AdamNRG316 Maybe you should wait for Castorice then. She is said to be Quantum Remembrance and according leaks (I don't know how reliable they are) her damage will be Acheron-level.
@@mathyrajaonoelina6612 Yeah honestly I'm thinking of doing that. Wasn't sure what her element was going to be though. Apparently she also uses a scythe so I was instantly sold anyway haha. I don't have a quantum dps so maybe I just need to resist the temptation to pull and wait.
Tribbie will save her e0 sustain performance 💪 *copium*
Honestly. I’m just scared that Herta might end up like kafka. Kafka had so much room to improve and we all thought it’ll eventually come but here we are. I know kafka isn’t emanator or that important to the story (yet) but hoyo tends to release units with “potential” and abandon them. Not just kafka, jl, blade also never got their best in slot teammates. But we’ll see how it’ll change with “hp meta” on the horizon.
You’re right, unfortunately. In this game, Hoyo pumps out so many new shiny units that it becomes impossible to ‘fix’ and buff them all. People act like they did with Jing Yuan, yet no one plays him and even fewer people will once we move to 3.0. Then look at a unit like Xiao in Genshin, who was buffed so much he can actually keep up with the current meta. Although Hoyo is leaning into powercreep more and more in Genshin too. It just makes them more money than rerunning older units.
Also we're facing HP inflation and harder content. Acheron used to work fine with two Nihility characters and a sustain but now she needs supports like Jiaoqiu, Robin, Aventurine and Sunday which is expensive. Jing Yuan got a buff but it isn't strong enough to keep up with newer characters. I think Hoyo needs to make content that suits all character play styles or buff older characters to keep up with newer ones
@Keon-q2fThats the only Reason apoc shadow exists
I mean, Kafka still has a Lot of potencial knowing that She's the only one that can trigger DoT over and over
She just needs more teammates
And Even so His Best team RN isnt doing that Bad tbh
Kafka its not "that good"
Shes engraved in a pedestal in the DoT teams cause shes the only one that can detonate ALL dots
Shes an 1.x unit and she can barely compete since her detonations are really slow
tbh, just pull for the dpses you like. supports will always be good so you can pull for whoever you want when it comes to them as well. just invest in your dps (not vertically other than an lc) and you'll be good.
herta's investment requirements currently are much lower than aglaea's who needs sunday badly (not as badly as jing yuan, but still. she's not gonna perform as well as herta without sunday)
herta on the other hand has very low cost teams. hell, you can run 1 cost with herta-serval-rmc-gallagher and it's still really good (and two cost teams make it so much better like swapping out rmc for sunday or gallagher for lingsha/aventurine.) not to mention, tribbie will likely be a herta support so...yeah
me personally, im gonna pull for lingsha to make up for my lack of a limited healer (+ i can be more comfortable with my break team) and save for mydei and castorice who are supposed to be played together in a dual dps team. castorice at the very least is said to be VERY good meta wise and i really like them both so im just gonna save for them to fill a 4th team slot tbh. i have fua, summon, break and then I'll have hp manipulation so it's goated
Tell me your team comps for each type (FUA/Break ecc...)
@Super-7327 okay
break - ff, rm, hmc, gallagher (soon lingsha 🙏)
fua - ratio, topaz, robin, aventurine
summon - jing yuan, sunday, robin, aventurine
fua and summon do have overlapping characters but i don't use the fua team that often anymore. if i really have to play them together then i just use fu xuan and ruan mei with jing yuan and sunday. hopefully i can build rmc alongside hmc and use rmc when i have to use those 2 teams together lol
@@coraW
Apparently Castorice seems to want Linghsa, although HuoHuo can work well as well i hope
@@Super-7327 does she??? that's great then. i'll definitely get lingsha
Is it true that Mydei and Castorice are supposed to be play together? Is it already reliable leak or just a speculation?
she gets shilled by the trotter buff in the next moc and then by summoning bosses on both sides in moc after that (ensuring there are enough trashmobs around to farm stacks), so she'll totally be tier0 omegabroken must pull
..then the shilling will end and people will cry about "powercreep"
if only your opinion was actulay right and not just pulled out of IX "dark hole"
@@obamassirname9190 what exactly is wrong with the (implied) opinion that herta is just an aoe focused char (who will get content tailored to her strengths) and not some turbobusted balance killer?
God forbid the emanator of erudition struggles against st scenarios. Where she doesn't actually struggle... serval+tribbie (leaks albeit) seem to be an insane combo for stack gen meaning that therta won't actually as bad as yall schizo doom posters make her out to be.
this is what is gonna happen with feixiao and they're just smart enough to rerun her before people catch onto the fact that there are no single target or wind weak bosses in most of 3.x 💀🙏
@@coraW
I mean you never pull on DPS rerurns for a reason lol, but what about Robin?
she's a risky investment simply because how op she is. if we start 3.0 with the herta power level then imagine how the later character power level will be. besides the power level in early 3.x won't be so bad you can't use your older metas to deal with those endgame contents and so the better decision is to just wait till 3.1/3.2 to get a clear view of how the meta will progress.
Herta isn't as strong as Aglaea right now but thats cause Aglaea's team is already done, its really hard to see how any part of her team could get upgraded. Herta's best team doesn't even exist yet, Tribbie should be her tailored support and they can release another erudition to be her Jiaoqiu like they did for Acheron
To be fair, Aglaea's team still has room for another harmony IMO. Sunday and HuoHuo are BiS but Robin and RMC only really work with her because they're busted in general. If they wanted to, they could make a harmony that is actually tailored towards energy.
that’s also what acheron mains said. Look at where they are now
@@quockhanh5740and acheron is still great so..
@@quockhanh5740acheron is still the 3rd best dps with her signature support jiaqiu
@@kunikuzushis"Great" compared to firefly, feixiao
Aglea might be better, but you have lightning dps substitues like acheron and jing yuan is viable with sunday. The next best ice dps is Jingliu, so I feel like because of that Herta has more pull value than Aglea.
I don't want to sound like I'm denying your logic, since it's a good point but sadly with 3 enemy weaknesses and the fact that a lot of ice enemies have quantum or lightning weakness, it means castorice/aglaea/jingyuan/acheron will be clearing regardless
@highhouse-f1l what do you mean 3 enemy weaknesses?
@@svenmcnordynord5383 Ice usually paits with either lightning and quantum and thats mostly true.
0:00 Apart from the content in the video, The cold blue & mysterious background theme song is really suite Madam Herta the Witch. It gives a atmosphere of magical witch roaming at night 🌙
I think it's fischl theme from genshin
It is "Die Mittsomernacht Fantasie", from genshin impact, for those wondering.
Second music piece is "Hang by a Thread" also from genshin.
i don't mind it personally, and i believe future supports will boost her value, so i will be getting her e0s0, then together with a battery Serval, Remembrance Trailblazer (at least for now) and my e1 Lingsha.
Atk/Atk or Ice dmg boost/atk on the herta? Thanks
im confused tho.. is hertas performance not great in this video? She cleared svarog in 2 cycles which is her worst scenario (no ice weak + a boss that doesnt summon adds
Still cant choose whenever to get The herta or use my pulls for fugue since im guaranteed after getting e2s1 firefly
What people care about most is being good at all 3 game modes she doesn't have to be the best. Acheron even after all the doomposting is still good at all 3 game modes especially pure fiction and isn't too disadvantaged even in single target focused scenario like Svarog, Hoolay, Sam or Aventurine.
Honestly if Tribbies kit is true, shes gonna be an INSANE support for Jade/Therta combo as Jades Debt Collector and in turn a Therta Enabler.
Tribbies speculative kit is:
Basic attack is Blast
Talent is AOE Followup when allies use damaging ult (or ult in general)
Ultimate is a field that lets her do an AOE attack when an ally gets attacked.
If these are true, Jade will be THE BiS for Therta IF you have Tribbie (which you should if want to actually invest in your Therta for clearing non PF endgame).
Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Lingsha or
Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Robin (even with anti synergy, but its Robin so it will work with the amount of hits these units will do)
or
Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Lingsha
or
Therta/Jade/Tribbie/RMC (RMC ult is aoe + Mems ora ora)
or
Therta/Jade/Tribbie/Sunday (Ofc, AV and Energy for Therta always appreciated)
But ofc Therta/Serval/Tribbie is still viable, but nowhere Jade/Tribbie if the speculation kit is actually true.
Are these confirmed
@@Cantlpe‘speculative’ so no these aren’t confirmed
Imo, both Herta and Aglaea are bait, theyre holding the real powerhouses like Castorice for later. Aglaea is strong but her team is pretty much built and done, leaving little room for improvement, however THerta is FAR from done, you could argue the only BIS member she has is Lingsha, otherwise she lacks a dedicated Support AND SubDPS because while Jade is good, THerta is no where near efficient enough for stack generation. Tribbie is coming, seems pretty good for THerta. But I can see Aglaea falling off a lot faster than THerta
But either way Castorice will likely destroy them both
I even doubt that Castorice will be the strongest.
Phainon is the most central figure of Amphoreus story, an expy of the most popular male character from the franchise (a character that was not playable) and he will probably end-up as a sort of "HSR Neuvillette".
cope
I don't know much about HI3 as I've never played it. But the second I heard Castorice used a Scythe I was sold lol. Has her element been leaked yet? Also is she an expy from HI3 or a new character?
@@AdamNRG316 She's a quantum unit
@@Oreganochips awesome. Thanks for the info. Might just wait then tbh.
Tribbie apparently will solve her problems (?) but Robin is a very high bar to be surpassed and even if Tribbie manages to do that, the difference probably wont be too big.
Considering that THerta's 1 slot being locked to erudition, it probably needs to be an erudition that serves as a great battery along with buffing capabilities to truly make her an "emanator". So i'm probably going to pull her when that time comes, assuming that such unit will be actualized and that she won't be powercrept by then...
Robin isn't a high bar to pass when RMC performs similarly to her in herta teams
@@Yoru...New phrase: true dmg and AA is hard to pass
The thing is you can probably run both tribbie and another support, tribbie replaces jade mostly and does some damage whilst turbo buffing herta
she aint getting beaten in optimized 0 cycles if Tribbie does not have any AA, especially against 0 AV Robin ult on Wave 2. Ppl bash on Sunday for the very same reason, but fail to realize thats a bar that is unrealistic to achieve for basically any support.
However for general play most definitely an upgrade
@@senseioct8564Therta needs a second erudition, thats the point of her kit even with tribbie and lingsha doing aoe attacks, her stack gen is neutered heavily without an erudition. also jade overrate serval can perform better in ST, and Herta 4* is a solid replacement. Jade is simply the consistent one but she lacks true synergy with THerta
if Therta didnt need a second erudition we wouldve alr seen showcasers show off eruditionless teams with her, but we havent bcs its just not good
As a new player, who should i pull for? I have Sunday and aventurine and I really need a dps.
Honestly I Feel Like You only have 2 choices which is either getting robin and feixiao or the herta with jade,if your not a greedy player then just pull for robin and wait for reruns or wait for castorice,btw aglea isnt worth it,i mean shes good but she gets outshined by other dps's and other dps's coming later into the game
Robin and then go for aglaea
guys, wether you pull for big herta, aglaea, or use any 5 star limited dps thats well built with good teams, you'll 3 star MOC/PF/APOC and clear highish torment simuniverse modes. DO NOT FALL FOR FOMO GUYS THEY WANT YOU TO BE WORRIED
Herta has perhaps the best kit a character ever had in this game as a dps,she is an amazing dps,but if she gets powercreeped,she can act as the best erudition support unit with her 80% crit dmg bonus,I am not sure why they haven't made more characters like this in this game,we know damn well from genshin impact how people used Xiangling as a dps unit at the beginning of the game,but because of her amazing pyro application,she is still an S tier unit to this date,same can be said about Xinqiu as well,they had kits that allowed for incredibly versatile gameplay and Herta is a similar scenario,I am not pulling her because she is a strong dps unit that can surpass my feixiao/acheron/firefly teams,nope,they can probably do a great job still,but Herta cannot be powercreeped like those 3 can be,even if she gets powercreeped,she will live as the best erudition support
I really hope The Herta is a good character for a long time, she seems kinda "too simple". Right now the game is evolving to a place that just a crit dps isn't enough. Memosprites are gonna be a big thing for now on and Break will probably still be good for a while, my guess is next meta is gonna be DoT, so crit dps are in a weird position rn.
lol no
the way crit dpses are better than break teams rn.. Sunday robin rmc core is simply stronger than hmc fugue rm superbreak core. The only real reason break seems broken compared to crit is bcs it only needs BE as a stat so its floor is ridiculously high but its ceiling isnt able to match crit (again mostly bcs sunday robin is broken). its akin to hyperbloom in genshin. You also forget to mention mem dpses are also crit dpses, or that fua dpses are crit dpses, hp scalers (soon) or that acheron (debuff) and THerta (AoE) are crit dpses. Being a crit dps is inherently gonna make you scale better with better investment bcs robin sunday is just that strong, but you do need that investment otherwise it underperforms compared to the consistency of break. As for dot, nothing abt leaks atm suggest we will be getting any dot units. anaxa is 50/50 on being a dot unit or acheron unit
its not a disadvantage being in the archetype that can give you 6-7 free 100% AA in a cycle with proper setup. This aint anything like ZZZ where anomaly dominates bcs it does not care abt the stun timing and windows
@@Wawawawawa750 yeah i mean, crit dpses are really good but with a LOT of investment. Even tho follow up and mems are crit, the way they work can allow you to exceed by a lot characters that are just dmg dealers for example Seele and Jingliu. Im not talking about powercreep, im mentioning them because all they do is straight up dmg in their skills and they scale with crit. Even with a non too invested Feixiao team with March 8 being free, is already better then a Seele team. i agree with you, break is good cuz its easy to build and to make it work, the ceiling dont need to be tremendously high because theres no need to, break will work wonders for a long while just with a coke and a sandwich, no investment at all. DoT is doomed for a while now, i know that because im a DoT main player lmao, but im sure they`ll start introducing more DoT stuff on 3.0 because theres no other archetype to buff but lets see. We also thought that Jingliu was gonna be the best character for a long while and she didnt lasted a patch, on paper shes the easiest and strongest character on the game, but theres nothing much going on for her to make her exceed. Same can happen with The Herta, i hope not cuz im planning on getting her E2. Lets pray gamers
People been focusing way too much on team archetypes when that means nothing in the face of powercreep you will still need to pull new characters if Hoyo decides that new characters will be better and double hp of enemies. Feixiao is better than Seele and Jingliu not because she is followup its because she simply has higher multipliers. You could use Feixiao in a hypercarry team with no folllowup characters and still beat Seele thats just powercreep.
I would say Break is already struggling on the low investment Firefly and Ruan Mei both E0S0 with HMC and Gallagher use to easily 0-1 cycle content with mid relics now you need good relics for 3 cycle. Fugue is what brings the playstyle back up to 0-1 cycle but at that point you using full premium team.
You shouldn't have anything to worry about if you have E2 Herta though just make sure you actually get whatever new supports come out as well. I still use E0S0 Jingliu.
If i have to pull a kid model character for her to peak i might've to skip her bruv
Based
And then there's me who's gonna get her so i can finally use a viable two daughters team with Yunli and Tribbie
I had to watch iylt twice. The music is so suitable for the Herta. I couldn't focus the first time
but. but. Herta can 3 cost legion with sustain...
looks inside
E2 🔥
simply pull two more hertas instead of a sustain or subdps smh
she's literally able to 1cost 0 cycle lol
@@tsukeyi keyword: sustain
@@tsukeyishe’s able to 2 cycle with sustain
With e2 she’s going to 0 cycle
Imma pull for Therta e1 or above
Is her e1 sustain worth it 🤔 (compared to Aglaea e1)
Can you please make a comparison of erudition characters for
Herta? Between Serval, Argenti, Jade and mini Herta. Who is the best battery?
Serval in 'most' cases for pure battery
Best battery is probably serval. Overall better damage is probably jade. Argenti is just premium serval for pf.
Personally, I'm going to pull Lingsha then save for the collab + Meidei.
The Herta has a great kit, but the collab characters are gonna be great too, I also like Meidei's design a bit more.
Nah,I don care,Im pulling for Seele once she gets a rerun,stop me,I dare you
😳
You mean I dare you right??😅
@@testingabc6207yes 😭😭
@@testingabc6207 what was said before? it's been edited...
@@_JoeVer it was (I date you) before
Herta is very strong no doubt but T0 in every gamemode and best dps is cope.
When you experience the HP thresholds(when new MoC goes live) she just 2cycled while being off element you’ll understand how strong she is
@sev559 2 cycle off element is alright if it's e0s0 team. My firefly can do 1 cycle svarog at e0s0 and he don't have fire weakness so....
@@Godofwarrrs firefly is the best unit in the entire game and her kit is extremely overloaded, why do you think this makes the herta looks worse??
@@Godofwarrrs svarog literally has fire weakness?
Also this is new HP thresholds, this MoC has 2M more Hp than the current one and it was totally off weakness. Forget whatever prior experience you had with current/past MoCs
@@Godofwarrrs lol what are you yapping about svarog has fire weakness,,, you mouth is too loud
Simply
If U Pulling For Meta 0 Cycle Low Cost = Pull The Herta
If U Casual Player And Have Sunday = Pull Agalaea.
If U dont have sunday and casual player = Skip.
Im currently just lacking quantum dps , ice dps not really needed , i guess i will pull jade or e1 robin then
Wait for Castorice
you dont pull jade for quantum dps, you pull her for AoE
@@jellythewomanconsumer1590 aight
@@Wawawawawa750 yep thats the point , but i still pass all pf without jade tho , so idk who to pull for in 3.0 .
You've probably seen it a hundred times but, if you do like the design of castorice, leaks suggest she is very very strong as a quantum remembrance dps
Ik elemental coverage doesn’t really matter anymore but I would like some more ice coverage besides jingliu😅 if not herta, maybe lingsha
I mean, she is solid asf
You know her assests is quite eye catching
So should i go for Therta, Aglaea, or just skip all if i don't have Sunday, Jade, and Lingsha? I have Huohuo and Robin but she's needed in Feixiao's team. And if i pull for one of them, should i pull for LC or E1? considering i probably only have 35 pulls at the end of the patch 2.7
Therta works extremely well and has an extremely high floor with pr without premium options.
Aglaea without sunday = Huohuo Robin RMC only viable alternative team, if you can't let her take this team, she's not worth it for sundayless acc.
@@Wawawawawa750 I mean I'm obviously pulling for Sunday in his rerun, can't I just use Bronya/Tingyun while waiting for Sunday? Or do I REALLY need E1 Aglaea for that to work?
@@iicchan_2377you can wait all you want bruv
I think this team is super expensive and not a very good way to showcase her, sustainless is only so much of a gap right now because she's working on breadcrumbs of other people's teams. Aglaea is definitely just the worse value unit since her teams are finished up. I also disagree with the expressed sentiment below that Castorice will like, ruin Therta. Even if Mydei AND Castorice are the top 1 and 2 dps with Tribbie she should comfortably have a top 3 spot in most content and at worst maybe top 5? If a top 5 DPS with good performance in basically any mode is bait then I think we just shouldn't pull DPS. TLDR is she 1 cost 0 cycled legion sustain less and not even getting a 1 cycle with an 8 cost team is a clear and absurd showcase of how cope her current team setup is. I think you played fine its just genuinely so shocking how insane RMC truly is for a F2P unit
I think generally if the DPS is in Acheron/Yunli range or above they are worth the jades and you can reasonably expect them to do well in there own content for a good while. Even with how hyped Therta and Aglaea are they are actually still competitive and sometimes worse then older DPS making the "clear best" more of a facade.
Nah, HoS a super good TCers alr said that the difference between a sustainless and a sustain Therta team is huge. Same level of damage diff as an Acheron sustain vs sustainless
Think abt it this way, the erudition on your team is basically just a battery for most fights (Serval/Jade/Herta all have similar level of performance). Thus, you only have one slot for a harmony unit. None of the eruditions do much for besides being a battery, it's not like Topaz/Moze/March who actually gives token amount of buffing for FuA and their damage is consistent unlike THerta's erudition partner basically being dead weight in ST
That being said, a sustain team with her is like comfy 2-4 cycle (in line with 2.X Dpses) its just that sustainless can 0-cycle 3 Mil+ ST HP
I got the teammates she needs... and it was by accident
I might get her if i win 50/50 but if i loose ill save my gurantee for tribbie and mydei
Robin starrail again
I want herta but i have Aglaea's best team Sunday,Robin and E1 Huohuo
Then pull Herta, Sunday is like premium Rmc, he advances her action and gives her energy , he is very good with her (you could also replace him with robin, she is also good with the herta but you will probably get skill point issues so RMC will be better). Huohuo is a great healer for any team expect break and with E1 you have a more skill point positive team which is good. You have a great team for The Herta, just remeber this aswell Herta is AN EMINATOR. Aglea's team is basically complete and she doesn't have room for much improvement, she has her best sup, best healer. The Herta hasn't received them yet. Tribie is sounding to be very good with her. (And as a emanator they will add more supports etc. for her to keep her relevant longer)
This team is kinda bad so no surprise if it's this weak, jade doesn't have much synergy since she can't make herta ult fast like serval and herself doesn't deal much dmg
Jade is fine though? Extra 30 spd means attack boots can be run(this video for some reason didn't do it)and someone like RMC is significantly better than Robin here. Heck, a team of Hyperspeed Gallagher with Multiplication LC, Sunday, The Herta and Jade would do significantly better here. After Tribbie releases, you'd want The Herta, Jade, Tribbie and Aventurine. (Aventurine because he can run sub dps really well with an extra 80% crit damage from The Herta).
@devika2545 not jade tho, serval with key lightcone 3s can be used in most scenarios, jade only as good if there's 5 mob, with that lightcones plus wind set, serval can ult every turn and activate wind set like craze, jade doesn't fit the herta pretty much, also robin isn't much weaker than rmc in herta team, maybe robin isn't as strong in sustain herta team but if you're strong enough to run a non sustain team then there's no better option than robin
@devika2545 most erudition won't go well with the herta, maybe some are decent but the finest of them all no matter the scenarios is serval not jade, you should test it first bruh, I have the beta test server, would you like one to test, I have played so I know that everything you said isn't quite true
@@mercibeaucoup49 I have JADE e6s5 better than serval?
@@upupupup32 it is better, but keep it with yourself bc 90% people won't pull for jade and fewer gonna pull for her eidolons
Who can replace lingsha?
Gallagher can be used as a F2P option, although it won't be as effective damage wise because of The Herta stacks especially, he has the advantage of being much less SP hungry than Lingsha, important if you don't have the S0 for The Herta. If you have Adventurine is nice, since the FUA helps The Herta. HuoHuo has the advantage of the energy regenation, but it won't help with stacks for The Herta.
In the end, going with a good sustain will be enough, will increase the number of turns necessary to beat the level, but you don't need a 2 cycle, you need a 10 cycle in both runs in the end of the day.
I know it is possible to beat it without a sustain for a 0 to 1 cycle with a team similar to the one shown in the video, if you have the resourses characters/relics/LC, of course
Aventurine, since he has a lot of FuA and attack just like Lingsha. Another sustains outside of them will be hard
Okay now use those wasted cost on Robin jade and lingsha do e2s0 herta rmc herta and Gallagher and 0c with less cost?
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Can you read the thumbnail?
@@BailuGaming it’s such a shitty point to make? Picking a team twice as expensive to not have limited eidolons and perform worse is just mental illness
@@Kazjire The purpose of this video is not to show a ceiling performance. People would go to Xolze, HoS or BiliBili if they wanted that(mainly HoS and Bilibili cuz Xolze ain't leaking).
In case you failed to realize, the purpose of this video is to be a more casual friendly showcase. Prioritizing things like less RNG, lower stats requirement on the entire team, comfier play. People who do care about the optimizations that can be made to reach a higher ceiling aren't the type of people who are here seeking for advice.
You should read the context of the situation before commenting anything. Instead of forcing your own point of view in a place where people clearly don't have the same goals as you.
why shes on speed boots when jade can give *30 speed owo
can you suggest me who should i choose between feixiao, agalea, the herta, my team has houhou, robin and no sunday
feixiao if you want follow up or bronya robin, Therta extremely high damage floor can work with or without premium options, Aglaea without Sunday only has Huohuo Robin RMC as a viable team, and its still worse than sunday teams
Feixiao if you have acheron, if not aglae
Aglea without Sunday is not that good, Feixiao is a good choice however I think the Herta will be more in the meta as a 3.0 dps and has the most room for improvement. Imo pull Herta
First i think lol
It’s always the characters I want to pull 😔
3/4 stellaron hunters are dead in a ditch and now both emanators are becoming mid 😔
mid???😭
Herta is far from mid though
What’s wrong with you people 😭
What is blud babbling about
Herta is far from mid..? Keep in mind this is her performance without her BiS harmony (Tribbie) and she’ll probably get a BiS erudition like acheron got jiaoqiu. even lingsha isnt really made for this team
Nonesense you just need to use RMC with the Herta Robin and Lingsha/aventurine.. but that is not fair and doesn't benefit her erudition bonus, she doesn't need the erudition bonus only if you fail to make stacks. the Action Advance of Robin and RMC makes up for the lack of a erudition character and the damage output of True Damage makes things easier.
Cause MeMe action advance doesn't cost a Skill point.. what.. look if you love Algaea just pull E1 that is it. but we don't have the jade, well you need to pull Robin and Hou Hou anyway to make Algaea BIS.
What about tribbie Herta BIS. well that is true, but then again Robin E1 Provides Res Pen. but the whole key in 3.0 meta is RMC true damage. (bonus damage that ignores toughness and % of the orginal attack hit)