The WORST Exotic Armor In Destiny 2

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Detailing what I think are the 10 worst exotic armor pieces in the game currently.
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  • @alpharius6874
    @alpharius6874 4 місяці тому +392

    Damn, Mask of The Quiet One is so bad and unremarkable, you forgot to include it on the list

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому +104

      It’s stuck in year one. But still isn’t as bad as these haha

    • @papertowels9162
      @papertowels9162 4 місяці тому +11

      I paired Mask of the Quiet One with Whisper of Torment and I personally like it a lot.

    • @papertowels9162
      @papertowels9162 4 місяці тому +34

      Khepris Sting is so bad no one has mentioned it

    • @sQuaTsiFieD
      @sQuaTsiFieD 4 місяці тому +5

      @@papertowels9162 nah man I main khepris for wall hacks in PvE. I can't do GMs without it cuz there's no radar :D

    • @fundymentalism
      @fundymentalism 4 місяці тому +2

      MotQO is surprisingly good w Tommy's. Hurt all the time, so your slam and heal grenade are always up

  • @typhir5911
    @typhir5911 4 місяці тому +67

    I've seen one person use Arbor Warden ever, and he blocked my rocket launcher with his barricade grenade... in PvE against the second Warlord's Ruins boss. I still have no idea what he was thinking. Titan barricade is already a bit of a situational usage class ability. Throwing the barricade could have been interesting, but dropping it in front of your rocket launcher using teammates is basically dropping the Ward of Dawn in their face without saying anything.
    With a name like Arbor Warden, I would have expected it to sprout trees to block damage or otherwise heal the team or something in that sense in exchange for the titan's barricade ability. It would make sense in the lore too since the Traveler fires its beam of Light that spawns branches and roots of a tree-like structure.

    • @uninteressant2196
      @uninteressant2196 4 місяці тому +2

      They could combine its perks with crest of alpha lupi for a healing barricade-nade

    • @sirfeint6302
      @sirfeint6302 4 місяці тому +1

      It's actually such a cool exotic that I tried(keyword) to make a build with it. I couldn't...
      I forsee Arbor getting something good in the future, especially with Prismatic on the way.
      Watch that Transcendant Grenade do something bonkers to the barricade lmao

    • @koolkraken912
      @koolkraken912 4 місяці тому +1

      @@uninteressant2196it giving barricades a new base functionality would make it great. Rn i love it, but I’m an outlier.

  • @RangerIV
    @RangerIV 4 місяці тому +63

    Khepri's Sting? Want to ensure you can't regular melee anything without dropping your powered melee charge? Khepri's has your back.

    • @amirmoneyplayz8757
      @amirmoneyplayz8757 4 місяці тому +4

      I want them to change the more damage the smoke bomb does in pve to just apply 30% weaken

    • @RangerIV
      @RangerIV 4 місяці тому +4

      @@amirmoneyplayz8757 that would certainly be an improvement. Something like a necrotic grips poison could make sense too. So many cool things could be done and they would all be better haha

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 4 місяці тому +2

      I think the damage on the khepri melee should do something like 1000% damage to combatants and refunds on kill. Making it sorta like any assassin build

    • @RangerIV
      @RangerIV 4 місяці тому +1

      @@lordgrub12345 that sounds very powerful, maybe too powerful with 10x damage buff, but i like the idea of the assassin style of play. Maybe something like the liars handshake melee buff but instead of punching or getting punched to activate it you melee out of invis and for the extra damage. Then some additional effect like poison if they survive or instant invis again on kill like stylish executioner.

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 4 місяці тому +1

      @@RangerIV It generally would but you gotta really get in the weeds of the enemies without any sustain outside of invis. And if you don't get the kill it can really put you in a pickle. Although, yeah the 10x buff is prolly too much. Maybe something like five times is better, just so you don't one shot everything.

  • @slingshotnerd
    @slingshotnerd 4 місяці тому +178

    Skull of Diarrhea should grant bonus damage to Nova Bomb and should allow devour to grant super energy on top of grenade energy.

    • @gungfry7728
      @gungfry7728 4 місяці тому +46

      All super exotics should have a buff to the super and a neutral perk, just like celestial nighthawk and shards. Is it bad I also want Cuirass to get a decent neutral perk?

    • @wesleygibson367
      @wesleygibson367 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@gungfry7728 I completely agree! I think we need to start getting away from this idea of swap exotics. I've always felt like if an exotic feels like I should be able to use another exotic on top of it then it needs to be buffed.

    • @InexactPenny4
      @InexactPenny4 4 місяці тому +4

      This is what I have been thinking for a long time. Both Hunter and Titan have gotten exotics that buff their burst supers or just there supers in general (Star-Eaters) while Warlocks still don’t have a single one. The closest thing they have is Geomag Stabilizers, but those don’t even buff Chaos Reach’s damage since they just extend the time you spend in the super instead.

    • @JarJarBricks01
      @JarJarBricks01 4 місяці тому +6

      @@gungfry7728Yup. The most obvious buff for Cuirass is bonus super energy gained on Ballistic Slam kills. That would make an underutilized melee ability shine again while not being broken in pvp.

    • @Piekace
      @Piekace 4 місяці тому +2

      I do not want nova bomb to become over reliant on an exotic to do worthwhile damage a la cuirass. Just make the super do good damage by itself if the exotic isnt modifying how the super works in any way.

  • @paragonflash8937
    @paragonflash8937 4 місяці тому +15

    Id say a good rework for blight ranger is one obv put the exotic perk in raiju's harness. Then lets give Blight ranger the blink improvement from Astrocyte verse since Arc hunters can blink and make it so that when the hunter blinks they blind combatents around them.

    • @mwkhalys
      @mwkhalys 3 місяці тому

      Lmao making your enemy blink when you blink sounds fun AND powerful

  • @sirfeint6302
    @sirfeint6302 4 місяці тому +22

    I've always wanted an exotic that ties into Flow State(Lightning Reflexes) or Blind.
    What if Blight Ranger buffed Flow State to reflect projectiles on dodge? Reflecting projectiles could extend Amplified and generate Super Energy.
    For Arc Staff, just remove bonus damage to reflections...it's not needed. Instead, why not just give it the "Whirlwind Guard" Buff?
    For Raiju's, Bungie could make it a "Blind-centric" exotic for Hunter.
    Inflicting Blind will now grant a 2x Arc Surge for X amount of seconds(Just like Wrathweavers). This would be in addition to Raiju's existing effects.
    As an Arc Hunter main, I need something juicy for the Final Shape. Raiju's has good potential, same with Blight.
    I just wanna use something other than Raiden, Stars, Shinobu, or Liar.
    Lets hope frens.

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 4 місяці тому +1

      Wait, you don't run assasin's cowl?

    • @RangerIV
      @RangerIV 4 місяці тому +2

      I really want raijus harness and blight ranger to be good. Heres the ideas i came up with.
      Fix Raijus Harness:
      Arc staff can be deactivated early. Whirlwind guard can be used without consuming energy and generates orbs of power for allies based on damage reflected. Final blows with arc abilities give more super energy.
      Fix blight ranger:
      Damage reflected blinds targets hit, extends the super, and charges the voltaic mirror. Before the super ends a light, light, heavy combo will expel all energy stored in the voltaic mirror, increasing the damage and range of the attack based on the energy expelled.
      And make a full charge on that blight ranger SMACK. Raijus can be the super spammer and blight can be utility/burst dps depending on wat u need.

    • @sirfeint6302
      @sirfeint6302 4 місяці тому +1

      @@lordgrub12345 Only if the activity requires it. I like Liar's more than Assassin, personally.
      Last time I used it was in Trials. Got away with some wild things, lol.

    • @sirfeint6302
      @sirfeint6302 4 місяці тому +1

      @@RangerIV I love your Blight Ranger idea of storing energy for an attack. Kinda like the new Titan Void Aspect coming in The Final Shape.
      Thou, the Raiju's Harness one has a problem. Exotics that only tie into your Super are only good if they're great. Outside of PvP, there's no real reason to use this over Raiden Flux.
      I think Surges are what really seperate the two.

    • @RangerIV
      @RangerIV 4 місяці тому +1

      @@sirfeint6302 i think theres a place for it. The ability to pop the super for a quick major kill or to res a teammate or clear a pool of ads real quick then end it so u can work to get it right back. I personally am not a fan of the surge buff treatment, it feels like a cop out to me. Like “uhh we dont know how to fix this exotic…. Give weapon damage? Ok ya tac that on there.” But i can def see how getting 4x surge by deactivating the super 3 seconds early would be very useful in activities. Basically a full duration super plus damage buff. But Imagine blight ranger playing pvp and having a bullet reflected back at you and instantly screen white out 😂 would be super funny

  • @Jackie2Sox
    @Jackie2Sox 4 місяці тому +8

    “ this could easily be number one as who the fuck uses spectral blades in pve”🤣😂🤣

  • @Vinn0
    @Vinn0 4 місяці тому +18

    Skull of dire ahamkara should just let you throw 2 nova bombs like the hunter shadowshot exotic.

    • @ross6789
      @ross6789 4 місяці тому

      Nova needs a buff. Nova bomb as is needs a solid 25% buff at least.

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ross6789 letting you shoot two novas is more then enough

    • @ross6789
      @ross6789 4 місяці тому

      @@lordgrub12345 I wasnt suggesting both, it was a one or the other thing.

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ross6789 yeah, but we were focusing on the exotic so talking about buffing it seems..... Kinda pointless?

    • @ross6789
      @ross6789 4 місяці тому

      @@lordgrub12345 it was an addition to any exotic change. But ok

  • @boomermorgan
    @boomermorgan 4 місяці тому +6

    Disagree with Arbor Warden. Gone flawless with it. I will admit it’s very niche on berserker but it’s strong. It can stop thundercrash, shoulder charge, apes, etc. with a good build you can have woven mail and 2 orbs of power.

    • @jekkin8972
      @jekkin8972 4 місяці тому

      For pve or does literally nothing but yea I agree it's literally built for berserker

  • @night_san03
    @night_san03 4 місяці тому +1

    6:20
    "Kills while in a rift return rift energy. Casting a rift after killing an opponent creates a combination healing empowering rift at increased speed."

  • @Cotton-vr
    @Cotton-vr 4 місяці тому +1

    Arbor warden idea: ( give it the bombider treatment), throwing the barri-nade will cause a small AOE around the barricades location, dealing an effect based on subclass. I.e on stasis throwing a barricade will do a burst of slow, maybe 40 stacks, solar will scorch etc

  • @rickyruiz2135
    @rickyruiz2135 4 місяці тому +3

    The problem is that nowadays an exotic to be useful it needs and active and a passive effect, or a really good active or passive to overshadow the need for the other, for example geomag stabilizers, before it got the extra super on ionic trace pick up, the extension of chaos reach wasn't good enough because you didn't have a super all of the time, with the change is a good damage super (could use a little help imo) and getting your super back easier, better dmg super is the active and getting energy from ionic trace pick up is the passive

  • @WollyChaps
    @WollyChaps 4 місяці тому +3

    Warden lets you hold a barricade while another barricade is charging. For when you need to feel extra safe, barricade Armamentarium with extra steps.

    • @TrinalHydra
      @TrinalHydra 4 місяці тому

      While taking up your grenade

  • @poegetsbored6640
    @poegetsbored6640 4 місяці тому +1

    I think a really interesting change for skull would be to convert cataclysm nova to function like Lance from Destiny 1, and have increased damage based on distance traveled.
    And convert vortex nova to function like shatter from Destiny 1 and gain the danger close functionality (reduced damage to yourself, bonus damage with close enemies).

  • @doctordisco5814
    @doctordisco5814 4 місяці тому +1

    I liked the mk 44 standasides with arc titan for juggernaut shield + overshield and melee back

  • @silcoego2859
    @silcoego2859 4 місяці тому

    Man, only memory I have of Skull of Dire Ahamkara was that it was amazing during Escalation Protocol in Year 1 lmao

  • @TheKafi107
    @TheKafi107 4 місяці тому

    Arbor Warden is a cool idea, but as it is its just... Finicky to say the least. I like the idea of throwing a grenade to protect your teammate, healing grenade exists after all. But my main gripe is that it's still a normal barricade. And it'll face whatever direction you faced when throwing it, and not the direction the danger comes from. Making it a dome like the exotic titan glaive would be the least they can do to it. And then maybe add synergy to it, like giving overshield, resto, frost armor, woven mail or blinding enemies inside, based on a current subclass. Then it'd be somewhat niche and not useless.

  • @Cotton-vr
    @Cotton-vr 4 місяці тому

    Gwisin vest idea: each kill during your super activates a small tether ( last 2-3 seconds) quickly pulling in anything nearby. Kills on tethered opponents grant back super energy upon exiting your super

  • @Krypz
    @Krypz 4 місяці тому

    Raiju's Harness is my favourite looking exotic, really wish it was more useful

  • @joshuam6975
    @joshuam6975 4 місяці тому +1

    What if Blight ranger let you reflect damage when blocking with glaives and swords? I think this could be a cool way of giving hunters a more damage focused version of the Titans stronghold exotic while maintaining the exotics identity.

    • @Ranger74352
      @Ranger74352 4 місяці тому

      I LOVE this idea! That would actually be so freaking cool!

  • @DIRTYPRODiGY
    @DIRTYPRODiGY Місяць тому

    Claws of Ahamkara's double melee on the Solar snap is great. Good damage and the constant snapping made it so much more fun imo

  • @gregguluzian
    @gregguluzian 4 місяці тому +1

    just stumbled on ur channel and WOW the value u bring to the community is nuts! im so happy i found u as im back from season of the forge so i have a lot of catching up to do haha

  • @KLGChaos
    @KLGChaos 4 місяці тому

    Alpha Lupi has some use in PvP with the barricade heal and overshield on Void, but most people still use Dunemarchers or One-Eyed Mask.

  • @Menderino
    @Menderino 4 місяці тому

    I've seen that the prismatic subclass class items give a lot of decent options which seem to "fix" some problems with the lackluster individual perks. Like we can get star water perk on warlocks so it increases damage of our supers and stuff

  • @jptorry7871
    @jptorry7871 4 місяці тому

    Hey I like Sealed Ahamkara. Its fun if you use the blade fan melee and the aspect that makes you radiant when you get hits with your melee. Its kinda janky sometimes, but its basically unlimited reloads and bonus stats all the time

  • @lemon_w0ter196
    @lemon_w0ter196 4 місяці тому

    Sealed ahamkara grasps getting power crept by a fragment is so funny to me

  • @steffens260
    @steffens260 4 місяці тому

    Blight Ranger and Raiju’s Harness need combined with one of them getting a rework.
    Even then, I’d want to see it pull more agro from enemies.

  • @sc0ttydont
    @sc0ttydont 4 місяці тому

    The only one that's alright if used properly is Claws of Ahamkara. You can make a pretty decent "Roy Mustang" solar build with it since it has such a heavy ignite. I was using it on Onslaught. Great for add control, not so much for DPS/Bosses. Though, I wouldn't complain for some form of buff to it!

  • @mranimeaddict6064
    @mranimeaddict6064 4 місяці тому

    Blight ranger is a Super Orb printer, I use it in gms to pretty much give teammates their supers instantly. Yeah, the deflect damage is pretty much non existent, but turning your super in to your teammates supers is pretty good imo

  • @luhcsgrimm8857
    @luhcsgrimm8857 4 місяці тому

    Raiju used to have the no extra drain on the block. Which made it a fun use in pvp.. then they switched it to blight ranged. And fucked up the "no extra drain"

  • @nathansmith8312
    @nathansmith8312 4 місяці тому

    Something I felt the rework for gwisn vest, is that it offers blink while running void, but also gives the kind of enhanced blink effects during Spectral Blades. Not so much a timer increase but a movement bonus that could increase one’s ability to be harder to hit in the super.
    Blight Ranger should block incoming damage only while using Gathering light, then ontop greatly increase its impact damage.

  • @daveb7049
    @daveb7049 4 місяці тому

    What’s truly sad is that some of these were already reworked very recently.

  • @VGBrothers
    @VGBrothers 4 місяці тому

    I was also thinking of having the Stand Asides and Perigrine Greaves be meshed into 1, like how we saw with Knucklehead Radar and Foetracer. But now that Perigrines are good, that kinda falls away.
    With Blight Ranger and Raijuu's Harness for Arc Hunter. Having Blight Ranger with both the bonus Reflector damage and the ability to end it early (keeping max 50% super energy) would actually make it somewhat decent for PvE. It prevents fully committing a Super to short niche situations. Then Raijuu's could probably more full-send into Blind in some way. Like Blinding targets gives an escalating bonus to Arc weapon damage and your Arc Super now creates an AOE Blinding explosion on cast and on ending (with Gathering Storm being at the impact point for the ending)
    There's probably other examples of 2 Exotics that can be better together in the current state of the game, but it's better with ones that are almost never used/seen

  • @austinfraser8765
    @austinfraser8765 4 місяці тому

    Path of the burning steps needs to have it's main perk reworked, I've only ever used it's damage perk and now that's on a bunch more exotics with far better beneficial exotic perks

  • @Gildedbolt
    @Gildedbolt 4 місяці тому

    Im the one guy using arbor warden and genuinely the first week of trials, I threw the arbor warden in front of a team mate who was feeding and it saved him from a shadowshot. Oh and i guess ive also thrown a bastion barricade on somebody with vexcalibur equipped and beat the guy down with my melee swings... thats about it though

  • @alexknight81
    @alexknight81 4 місяці тому

    I know the video is mostly about pve but I like claws for pvp with strand because you can get multiple charges of weavewalk with it, niche I know but its useful

  • @septk3722
    @septk3722 4 місяці тому

    Blight ranger should’ve been made to work with gathering storm, imagine you have to get arc final blows with melee but stacks x4 to give gathering storm a 20% damage buff with the cost of -10 movement

    • @iKnownot999
      @iKnownot999 4 місяці тому

      I'm not sure what your choice of a 20% buff is based on but star eaters are like 70% so it would still be useless. And no exotic should ever come with a mobility or anything else decrease intrinsically

  • @1chill_623
    @1chill_623 4 місяці тому

    For SoDA they should make it like Orpheus where it buffs both nova supers but in their own ways.

  • @Xiaolruc
    @Xiaolruc 4 місяці тому

    Dang, Blight Ranger netted you 14 orbs aginst an Ogre boss, though!
    Seems there's no cooldown on its orb production: only damage thresholds that need to be met, right?

  • @KreeTerry
    @KreeTerry 4 місяці тому

    Give Skull of Dire Ahamkara scatter from D1, buff the nova damage, and I think make ashes to assets or firepower intrinsic and that might be enough to make it viable.
    I’d love to have a reason to run it with bad juju like the old days

    • @Skranatic77
      @Skranatic77 4 місяці тому

      I’d say turn Nova Bomb into a Nova Lance, higher single target damage akin to Celestial Nighthawk. On Vortex, let the Lance persist like Gathering Storm and do vortex shenanigans; On Cataclysm, let it fire like D1 Shatter.
      Yes I have been hung up on Lance as a concept since D1. Lemme throw massive void spikes at people’s heads.

  • @SamB-yj8is
    @SamB-yj8is 4 місяці тому +13

    before watching, Wings of Scared dawn better be here

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому +13

      I made a build with them in season of witch. They’re not awful

    • @Avoncarstien
      @Avoncarstien 4 місяці тому

      @@itztizzle if it gave some damage....maybe...? But you're either running a solar weapon on not solar warlock, or you're running *this* instead of any of the myriad of insanely powerful solar warlock exotics.
      Sure it's not useless, it has neutral game play, at least....but can you really do much with this in serious pvp or pve....? PvP it cripples your maneuverability in Heat Rises, and in PvE you're hanging your butt out in the wind for...what? Flinch Resistance?
      At least Blight Ranger lets you guard longer to snag a couple of rez's without wasting your entire super in a GM. At least Sealed Ahamkara's Grasp has some utility as a reload exotic off Stasis, and honestly if RDM didn't exist, this exotic would be one of 2 meta endgame DPS reload-cheating exotics.

    • @chubbs_McTubbs
      @chubbs_McTubbs 4 місяці тому

      If you run it with heat rises it cancels out heat rises and just drops you to the ground. Tried to make a build with eyes of tomorrow for the auto reload but by the time you aim down sights and shoot you’re back in the ground. Honestly if they just fix it so it doesn’t cancel heat rises then it would be really good

  • @Ranger74352
    @Ranger74352 4 місяці тому

    On the subject of Promethium Spur, there’s no need to worry about it casting your Rift for you and losing the cooldown, because they reworked it. Now it doesn’t even work at all 👍. In their infinite wisdom, Bungie changed the exotic to require you to ALREADY be standing in a Rift when getting a kill with full Rift energy, in order to get the dual Rift to drop. Can you see the problem there? Now it’s just a legendary that takes up your exotic slot.

  • @greenpie4317
    @greenpie4317 4 місяці тому

    I think the best way to rework super exotics is to make them like pyrogale gauntlets. Make them augment your super and another ability some way.

  • @stealth7647
    @stealth7647 4 місяці тому +1

    Crest ain’t even bad. I used it in onslaught with behemoth and generated 9orbs per super and the healing barrier is clutch sometimes

  • @Mercie1322
    @Mercie1322 4 місяці тому +1

    Blight ranger should be reworked to be for the new Hunter Arc Super because Raiju's Harness does what Blight Ranger but better

  • @Thunderlord_Tozn
    @Thunderlord_Tozn 4 місяці тому

    When my friend first described arbor warden to me, for some reason I thought it would be the dopest thing to be able to use it and hoarfrost at the same time. So you’d basically be throwing out crystal walls everywhere

  • @LexiBelleGaming
    @LexiBelleGaming 4 місяці тому

    Combine Arbor Warden and Crest of Alpha Lupi. Turn your barricade into a healing grenade for any subclass.

  • @noahyoung5620
    @noahyoung5620 4 місяці тому

    Glad I'm not the only one that was super dissapointed with Arbor Warden. I unlocked it before I knew that new armor had been added, and I was super hyped until i read the description and was like "the heck is this?" I then proceded to try it out just in case, and its just as useless as it sounds. I even tried getting two barricade charges since the energy refils even while barrinade is active, but it litterally just overwrote the first barrinade. At that point my thought was "I can two uses for this and two alone. One, give a friendly a barricade from far away, but you have to have a really good throw. Two, placing a barricade right in front of an enemy in pvp just to momentarily troll him before he probably ends up killing you since you litrerally just gave him cover." Super dissapointing exotic and I completely forgot about it until this video.

  • @fracturedsolace145
    @fracturedsolace145 4 місяці тому

    Mantle of Battle Harmony relies on your super also but with little benefit.

  • @Sunfirea
    @Sunfirea 4 місяці тому

    I actually would like it fot raijuus is to really augment the super. Instead of this clunky pop super, deactive then het the buff. Just make it turn the super into just a single cast self blind bomb. Doesnt even have to make an new animation just use the cast animation fot arc strider and end it there. Just give a few more things on the blind part like increased damage against blinded units ontop og the x4 surge

  • @Sargatas
    @Sargatas 4 місяці тому

    It's always respectable when someone can distinct his personal opinion and objective facts. Every time when I see a guy that tries to justify the X thing just because he likes it so much I just go eyeroll. In this game and outside of it.

  • @HowToChezit
    @HowToChezit 4 місяці тому

    Barricade instantly destroy stasis cristal walls thingy, with crest, you can get healing with stasis by crest, I have a good build for that if you want

  • @dajem4959
    @dajem4959 4 місяці тому

    claws r actually amazing. use the fragment that lets u get melee energy and use the mod that makes u get nade energy from charged melee attacks. amazing ash in PVE use dragons breath as well cuz its amazing then use like summoner or lunas with heal clip incandescent

    • @dajem4959
      @dajem4959 4 місяці тому

      i think its way better imo than sunbracers and thanks to the berf we r getting with sunbracers THESE r finna be metahhhh

  • @unamericano
    @unamericano 4 місяці тому +5

    This reminds me that Warlock melee nerds a buff overall. It sort of sucks being the only class that can't kill a guardian in the crucible (or red bars with void melee) in one full charge hit.

    • @flopre9213
      @flopre9213 4 місяці тому +2

      void melee is supposed to be a push and voidwalker isnt a melee class

    • @marty101able
      @marty101able 4 місяці тому

      Warlock melee nerds 😭

    • @seb5542
      @seb5542 4 місяці тому +3

      Void melee is a utility melee. Not a damage melee. The knockback saves me in PvP all the time. It needs better PvE utility to be worth it though, or an option that is pure damage and no effect for the PvE players.

    • @gokuguy29
      @gokuguy29 4 місяці тому

      We used to have the explosion void melee that could one shot with necrotic but now it's just that push melee that does less damage than a normal melee

    • @cjallenroxs6239
      @cjallenroxs6239 4 місяці тому

      Skill issue

  • @garretburrow
    @garretburrow 4 місяці тому

    Blight Ranger is soooo BAAAAAD bro... I like your idea of giving it and Raiju's Harness the "Foetracer+Knucklehead Radar" treatment and combining them. Take the reflecting damage boost and add it to Raiju's... but then what do you do with Blight Ranger? Make it the "Astrocyte Verse" for hunters! That way Hunters can have a blink exotic, too.

  • @jamisonlevy3165
    @jamisonlevy3165 4 місяці тому

    Rework prometheom spur - kills restore rift energy
    Increase size of rift
    Getting kills with full rift energy drops of rift at the slain targets location
    Rifts now deal AOE damage that matches your class type, bonus aoe damage for empowering rifts

  • @NEWGHOST9
    @NEWGHOST9 4 місяці тому

    Posting the video abiut this, the day b4 we are supposed to get exotic armor tuning preview is wild timing
    Okay #10 one on the list is a rlly good exotic wat? XD sure it should have some neutral game benefits ontop of it’s functionality now a days, i think all super based exotics need it now a day to kill the swap exotic mentality
    I think arbor warden is also rlly good, but rlly niche, I definitely can see many use cases for it for solo play at least

  • @lastchance1829
    @lastchance1829 4 місяці тому

    No way mask of the quiet one isnt here, it heals for like 1/5th of your hp, and the ability regen is so gimped you cant even notice it doing anything

  • @butterychops
    @butterychops 4 місяці тому

    I'd love to see what you think are some of the most underpowered/underperforming aspects in the game and what you would do to improve them!

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      I have a similar video to that coming this week!

  • @kiritokun101
    @kiritokun101 4 місяці тому

    Raijus harness was great before the reworked it and gave it sleek to blight ranger , there was no need for that

  • @brandonhill9494
    @brandonhill9494 4 місяці тому

    Hunters have Nighthawk and titans have both Cuirass and now Pyrogale for one and done supers. Would love a huge super boost exotic for Nova Bomb.
    One idea I had for Skull ODA is the old super returns for Cataclysm and the Nighthawk/Cuirass treatment for Vortex.

  • @CringeConsultant
    @CringeConsultant 4 місяці тому

    Alpha Lupi is good for PvP.
    Use with strand to push in and suspend the health can help win 1vMultiple.

  • @koolkraken912
    @koolkraken912 4 місяці тому

    Arbor warden being no 1 is a skill issue. It’s about to be rad with prismatic. Drengrs lash consecration is gonna be banger.

  • @antiimperialista5764
    @antiimperialista5764 4 місяці тому

    When I saw the trailer for the new exotic armor I felt the vibe of your #1, new exotic armor should be broken AF that entice the grind, then tune it down after 1 year. I mean Osteo Striga still catching nerfs left and right 🤣 but on release was magnificent, same as Qiucksilver storm. The same logic should apply to new exotics, hope it's the case for the new ones.

  • @jacobruiter592
    @jacobruiter592 4 місяці тому

    I agree with Arbor Warden, but Citan's Ramparts was ruined and made useless by it's overly harsh nerfs

  • @YeetmanSkeetman
    @YeetmanSkeetman 4 місяці тому

    Weapon wise I think we need a buff for vigilance wing, Cerberus, sturm (somehow), bastion, Darci, and idk prospector or something. The colony. There are so many that I don’t bother taking out of collections because they’re just useless in pve.

    • @shadyrebob5999
      @shadyrebob5999 4 місяці тому

      Check the twab from last week. A bunch on your list got buffed.

  • @aidenfoxhayes
    @aidenfoxhayes 4 місяці тому

    Promethium Spur could give resto 2 by getting kills in an empowering rift, and radiant while in a healing rift

  • @plxlnnt
    @plxlnnt 4 місяці тому

    arbor warden is significantly faster than regular barricades so it’s great for stopping supers with suspend

  • @shanewood8397
    @shanewood8397 4 місяці тому

    All “swap exotics” need to be buffed of reworked similar to nighthawk too imo. Even the decent ones like cuirass and raiden flux. Having an exotic only be used to swap is kinda a lame and poor design.

  • @thefourthhorsemanwithornam9314
    @thefourthhorsemanwithornam9314 4 місяці тому

    Stand asides go crazy in pvp iykyk

  • @nikachu_i_choose5233
    @nikachu_i_choose5233 4 місяці тому

    Id def say that Winter's Guile needs a rework. The penumbral effect doesn't work in pvp nor does it work consistently with the damage buff.
    The scaling damage buff also works how old wormgods worked and that was eother really good or really bad.
    I say remove the damage buff from winter's Guile and throw it on Karnstiens.
    Id also say going full on into the stasis melee gameplay would be great. Have it make stasis shards, make stasis shards grant more melee energy and maybe enhance the increase of energy gained for allies as well.

    • @VAVORiAL
      @VAVORiAL 4 місяці тому

      Almost all of the warlock exotic armor buffs of the last year were pointless and/or terrible

  • @TimeLord
    @TimeLord 4 місяці тому

    Some great choices here, but I think you forgot about some. The first that comes to mind is khepris sting, closely followed by wormhusk. Lol. Good video though!

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      haha thanks! Yeah khepri's could have taken skull's place. I was just so disappointed with skull. Recency bias

  • @1chill_623
    @1chill_623 4 місяці тому

    Warlock melees need a massive buff

  • @AeroWraith901
    @AeroWraith901 4 місяці тому

    Blight Ranger hurts me the most. Such an amazing looking exotic….and yet it’s so trash, the worst kind of insult ;-;

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      agreed. It looks so friggen cool!

  • @oshadow8325
    @oshadow8325 4 місяці тому

    I wish Citans was decent in PVE, it deserved the nerfs in pvp but it completely and utterly screwed its pve usage.

  • @Cr4sh_the_bat
    @Cr4sh_the_bat 4 місяці тому

    At least blight ranger looks badass as fuck.

  • @colbym7610
    @colbym7610 4 місяці тому

    Arbor Warden is like one of the best looking exotics imo so it sucks how useless it is.

  • @Truds
    @Truds 4 місяці тому

    Skull is great just nova bomb is bad to synergise with it atm

  • @81mrbetomeza
    @81mrbetomeza 4 місяці тому

    One exotic I don't understand why bungie nerf was Winter's guileexotic arm for warlock.
    Why does bungie love nerfiing things

  • @termlesscipher8045
    @termlesscipher8045 4 місяці тому

    About Warlock melee's being bad aside from Lightning Surge and Incinerator snap....I think Penumbral Blast is great, but i am biased towards stasis. I also think Arcane Needle is good due to the unraveling debuff it gives. Its just damage wise....Yes others are bad but its the use cases i typically look it tbh.
    44 Stand asides: Give them void overshield and let the shoulder charge apply and elemental debuff (Weaken, Jolt, Scorch)
    Promethium Spur: It should Give you an enhanced rift that gives Both healing and empowerment and kills inside the rift grant Rift energy back.
    Arbor Warden: Imagine using barri-nade with thruster on with prismatic and drengirs lash (idk if it will work like that but hey might work)

    • @Yumiaia-26
      @Yumiaia-26 4 місяці тому

      Penumbral blast is bad, 1 reason, it can only freeze, if a enemy is frozen an you use it then it jus keeps them frozen, thas the problem imo wi warlock both there nuetral game an there super period are weak not habn easy consistent shatter, no way to in nuetral game besides shooting or unpowered meeles an the super is strong bu kina weak plus its a inherently weaker concept plus theres a lockout system thas small between shoots i know its useable bu those are some of warlocks biggest problems an there meele best showcases tha wi no shatter

    • @termlesscipher8045
      @termlesscipher8045 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Yumiaia-26 I understand where youre coming from, I like because of it saving my life and saving runs in more than one occasion, Is it situational? Yes. Is is bad because its just a freeze? No. Its bad because its situational. To be fair as well, My favorite exotic Scout is Wicked Implement. It is the Polaris of Stasis. Ive used Stasis in high end contend and its more been practice for me and I love the add control you can get. Personally i either Pair my Fatebringer/Midnight Coup, Wicked Implement, or Outbreak with Stasis and all those play nicely with Warlock Stasis.
      I also use penumbral blast as an option to start a shatter. or a chain of shatters if i need to quickly turn away. and deal with a high priority enemy. It may not be everyone's favorite, but its mine. I have a feeling people will see its use when Prismatic launches.
      Same with the Other Solar melee, Its better with Range over damage so you can hit enemies at a further range, I see Penumbral Blast as a tool to start a shatter and not to freeze.

    • @Yumiaia-26
      @Yumiaia-26 4 місяці тому

      @@termlesscipher8045 fair bu thas stasis warlocks problem it has all the freezing you'd want bu not much way to really capitalize on it, also yea wicked implement seems cool...I'd like it bu I habn gotten it yet me an my friend jus aren strong enough yet to do it ourselves we got really close a few times tho...

    • @termlesscipher8045
      @termlesscipher8045 4 місяці тому

      @@Yumiaia-26 use Divinityit helps alot on the tormentor

    • @Yumiaia-26
      @Yumiaia-26 4 місяці тому

      @@termlesscipher8045 I don hab divinity tho...

  • @iKnownot999
    @iKnownot999 4 місяці тому

    Cant wait for the 3 new armours to top this list

  • @RUGER5264
    @RUGER5264 4 місяці тому

    I was thinking. If celestial nighthawk gives super energy on precision kills. Why dosen’t Cuirass give super energy on ballistic slam kills?

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      Ballistic slam kills already give bonus super energy

    • @RUGER5264
      @RUGER5264 4 місяці тому

      @@itztizzle since when?!

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      @@RUGER5264 probably since arc 3.0. Used to do it on middle tree too though I believe. Watch my arc subclass school on abilities haha

    • @RUGER5264
      @RUGER5264 4 місяці тому

      Boutta make an “Oops, all ballistic slams” build.

  • @dustclothcrusader7934
    @dustclothcrusader7934 4 місяці тому

    Arbour warden is definitely not great but there are actually use cases unlike blight ranger

  • @Tigerbro6
    @Tigerbro6 4 місяці тому

    you know path of burning steps is so bad tizzle didnt even remember to put it in here

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      nah they're actually decent. Solo'd a GM with them and they worked nicely. They aren't as good as they once were, but not near as bad as the ones on this list

  • @WGG-01
    @WGG-01 4 місяці тому

    God resto x2 lupi would be awesome, a menace in pvp but like pvp is already in such a boring and stale sandbox

  • @Walter__Clements
    @Walter__Clements 4 місяці тому

    This is just a personal thing, but even if a lot of the titan exotics were buffed and became good options, I just hate the way most look. I just want to transmog everything at this point. I’ll probably never switch off of armamentarium in normal content just because I love the way it looks.

  • @emilvahlen7924
    @emilvahlen7924 4 місяці тому

    im prob starting world war 500 but arbor warden is good in pvp for trolling (if used with strand that i dont have 💀)

  • @dixon137
    @dixon137 4 місяці тому

    I just want more builds to actually work

  • @_jn0298
    @_jn0298 4 місяці тому

    Man Blight Ranger looks so cool but is sobad

  • @RD22x
    @RD22x 4 місяці тому

    Loving the content recently Tizzle!

  • @blackyonbi
    @blackyonbi 4 місяці тому

    The thing with arbor warden is that you can really only use it properly and max out its exoticness with only two subclases.
    Void : so you can throw an overshield to you or teammates
    and strand: using drengrs lash you can suspend people from affar eithout having to risk too much yoursel ( you can also pair it with the fragment that allows you to recharge your gun each time you throw a grenade , this way you can throw the barricade and it will count )

  • @VAVORiAL
    @VAVORiAL 4 місяці тому

    The buffs that Claws of Ahamkara and Astrocyte got were so irrelevant, I hope they buff them again

  • @collinbell6558
    @collinbell6558 4 місяці тому

    what if they combined the exotic armor super powers together as one though
    no more terrible D2 exotics
    two of them into the ultimate powerful armor pieces
    i fixed the problem for you
    It's only terrible if you don't combine them into one
    makes them stronger together then being separated from each other

  • @Saffimaru
    @Saffimaru 4 місяці тому

    I like your content, no bullshit and no dickheaded nonsense, just good content. I’ve only started watched recently tho

  • @zornstein_-9472
    @zornstein_-9472 4 місяці тому

    Literally how can you defend arbor warden? Like you literally just throw your barricade why would you not want your barricade next to you?

  • @digitaldogs233
    @digitaldogs233 4 місяці тому

    Lol first time ive put something in my save box for not using. Must be so fun being in your head playing this game, while i scamble along and wonder why my pistol all of a sudden pruduced glass sgaeds 🤷‍♂️😂

  • @VD1461
    @VD1461 4 місяці тому

    I have only seen cammycakes argue that the barrinade is good, but thats cammycakes and proves how niche and bad it is

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  4 місяці тому

      great players can make anything work. Doesn't mean it's good haha

  • @shirosatsuma4946
    @shirosatsuma4946 4 місяці тому

    I hate when exotics look cool but are useless. We need exotic transmog

  • @lancebaggaley9433
    @lancebaggaley9433 4 місяці тому +3

    I’ve had arbor warden in my inventory for the last year and haven’t used it once.

    • @funtourhawk
      @funtourhawk 4 місяці тому

      shit I just dismantled the few I got...not worth the wasted slots

  • @jonathancotter7429
    @jonathancotter7429 4 місяці тому

    dude im a pvp feedback titan main and i tried stand asides and they were trash in the crucible