This tank gave me nightmares with under 40%wr when I first played it. It has low alpha, no armor, and you can't hull down. It is true that the gun is great with fast aim time, so I feel like the only way to beat your enemy is by shooting them first before they shoot you in a 1-1 situation. Other than that, you need to pray that your meta tank teammates and/or light tanks can spot and do their thing or it's gg most of the time...
@@therightarmofthefreeworld4703 In the world of online trolling, can we see your stats with the Panther? Maybe you could offer some tips so we can you know, "L2P"?
i am actively grinding the e-50m and this tank is a good stop. i dont think i will sell this machine although i have experienced e-50. summary can be like this: reliable gun, not very decent speed, sometimes lifesaver armor and pretty good hit points for its tier. also ramming the waffle kind of tanks and the lights are always fun to do. ventilator, fast shell reload and the ammo rack preventer (sorry i forgot the names of the equipments) are the best equipments for this tank imo.
Wow. Played this tank around 2018. Was looking forward to it. Was badly outclassed by enemy mediums whenever I tried to make a the pressure. When I tried to be bush wanker I would be screamed at by my own team that I am not a TD, stop camping. Maybe they have boo-fed it but I have no fond memories of this thing.
Hello skill, i was on your index this morning and just saw that it was revamped (well kind of). I looked at some tank stats and noticed that "hulldown performance" and "flexibility" are missing. Why did they get removed?
Just 2 points - the last time I watched you try to get to the island on Drownenberg you drowned due to the tank - a Borsig from memory - was not fast enough and point 2 that camo is ace!
@@agbrenv That'd be fine. It'd mean that the tank would be able to trade better, since it almost always gives away some of its health every time it leaves cover to take a shot at something. A high RoF is useless unless you're shooting at something that's in the open.
The time slip/travel commentary at the end of second game and at the beginning of the third, though... Well, Skill is the director of this film, he knows better about the artistic choices.
This is so far my only tank i've managed to 2 mark. And honestly the expectation values are too low for this decent tank. Needs a turbo tho. This thing otherwise is just too slow.
3 marked it myself to 100% a few times, and I'd have to say that turbo would be a mistake (just my opinion). This tank is all about the gun, maximize that to the extreme! Rammer and vents for max DPM and then go for optics so you're not blind (what I run), or IRM or even vert stabs. -By the way, the expectation values are so low because too many people try to play every medium the exact same way. Panther and Panther II are all about sustained DPM, just wearing enemies down.
Haven't had that much fun in a tier 8 tech tree med in a very long time. The gun is amazing and honestly I feel disappointed with e50's gun one tier higher after the panther 2. No idea why but e50s big gun is the most unreliable reliable gun I've ever played with, even 130pm gun feels better with its notorious SU moments
This gun also works quite well on the E 50, in my experience. I can't decide if I prefer it over the 105 mm, both seem to work for me but statistically I have slightly better games on average with the 105.
@@Knebebelmeyer I mean, sure, but if you're trading with an E 50 that's not going to end well for you regardless of which gun you have. Ideally you'd utilize the armor in a way that puts you at an advantage.
@@Knebebelmeyer you shouldn’t even be trading with this tank or the e50 against any heavy tanks whatsoever. You should be sniping and constantly relocating in this tank. Never trading. Literally anything but.
@@EvilCouncil yeah, but 150 at the most in lobbies where most guys have 250+ pen makes that not such a great idea. It can be, I guess. But you’ve got to remember everyone is running gold ammo these days too, so it really ain’t good for that either. The armour imo is good for getting lucky bounces while you’re flanking or relocating lol.
After 5 months i loaded this game and played 3 games, we won 2 and I had a few kills in each, but each time I was lower tier, and I honestly think my participation made no difference at all, it was pre-determined as soon as the teams were selected by WG. ) If I were a super fluffy unicorn then maybe...
This vehicle gun handling is a shit fot its alpha and pen. Wargaming has not shame saying this tank with 223mm of pen has a tier IX gun. Man, this Wargaming is so dishonest. Unbeliveablely dishonest.
Having good gun handling is very nice to have sure, but still, a single-shooter for 250 alpha in todays game with all auto(re)loaders, heavy hitting heavys and ferraries...hardly epic. You can do well in any tank if you're a good player. So why should a good player play a tank that is far inferior to many ohters. If you wanna play Panther 2, play a TD insted imho.
The thing with WoT and the big cats (Tiger, Panther etc.) is that they were made to serve as long to mid range tanks in the real world, with powerful cannons and adequate armor against 75mm Shermans and T-34 tanks at medium range, but WoT maps and mechanics don't work like that, they are fat and impossible to hide, the maps are either a large field where if you fire you get spotted or it's a city map where you can't snipe at all and so on. It's what creates this "issue" in the game and german vehicles in general
I'd beg to disagree that German tanks in general don't work in WoT. I primarily play them, with the Panther and Panther II being among my most played and I do quite well overall.
@@MongooseJakeGames My most played vehicles are the Tiger 1 and E75 and I do amazing in them, it's just that you need to know how to play them really well, if you make a little mistake in both vehicles you are essentially dead. Which would be just fine if other nations had the same consequence for making that same mistake (US heavies have turrets, Russians have troll armor on all vehicles, Frenchies have speed, whereas the germans have only strong guns that often can't help them in a 1v1 or 1v2 scenario). Another thing (sorry for this long af comment) is that german vehicles have engines made of plastic, every time your sprocket gets hit in the E75, Tiger or the RHM the engine dies with it
You are a undoubtely very good player but first battle was pure luck, reds just ignore you. If they goes hulldown or speed around it's over for lovely Panther II.
What a BS... in any normal game you'd be dead the moment you jumped into the stream... Sorry, as much as I like your lives - the youtube videos and 100% luck battles are full of BS. There's no way you can pull this off in a typical battle.
This tank gave me nightmares with under 40%wr when I first played it. It has low alpha, no armor, and you can't hull down. It is true that the gun is great with fast aim time, so I feel like the only way to beat your enemy is by shooting them first before they shoot you in a 1-1 situation. Other than that, you need to pray that your meta tank teammates and/or light tanks can spot and do their thing or it's gg most of the time...
Imagine on Murowanka You get spotted before you start going up the hill . This tank make me crazy :)
Sounds like a Sniper Medium
Or you could L2P.
@@therightarmofthefreeworld4703 In the world of online trolling, can we see your stats with the Panther? Maybe you could offer some tips so we can you know, "L2P"?
If you ram enemy with this tank, you can penetrate their tank with your long gun🥵
Just the muzzle, I promise!
So it’s better to do the ram from behind?🫣
@@TheKamoteus you dirty boi xD
Oh my
Chillll
In game number 2, the IS-6B and the Caernarvon AX cost the team any chances of winning by sitting at the back at the start of the battle.
"I've tried to squeeze the gold out of kaku" Never a sentence before has summarized so vividly that situation! XD
i am actively grinding the e-50m and this tank is a good stop. i dont think i will sell this machine although i have experienced e-50. summary can be like this: reliable gun, not very decent speed, sometimes lifesaver armor and pretty good hit points for its tier. also ramming the waffle kind of tanks and the lights are always fun to do. ventilator, fast shell reload and the ammo rack preventer (sorry i forgot the names of the equipments) are the best equipments for this tank imo.
Panther 2 is actually quite a nice vehicle if you are an experienced player, gun is absolutely amazing.
Wow. Played this tank around 2018. Was looking forward to it. Was badly outclassed by enemy mediums whenever I tried to make a the pressure. When I tried to be bush wanker I would be screamed at by my own team that I am not a TD, stop camping. Maybe they have boo-fed it but I have no fond memories of this thing.
Crazy a T8 medium has the same HP as several T8 heavies and then is part of one of the best medium line in the game.
Hello skill, i was on your index this morning and just saw that it was revamped (well kind of). I looked at some tank stats and noticed that "hulldown performance" and "flexibility" are missing. Why did they get removed?
That Char Futur with 1 HP in the third match... :)
Just 2 points - the last time I watched you try to get to the island on Drownenberg you drowned due to the tank - a Borsig from memory - was not fast enough and point 2 that camo is ace!
I bought it yesterday and i put the well trained Ankou crew there with angler fish emblems.
If the tank had bigger alpha damage then it be really good.
But you have to work really hard get into the flow of this tank to make it work
280 isn't terrible, way better than the 240-230 most tech tree tanks have
@KochiMi they'd need to decrease the rate of fire then, since it's the highlight of the tank
I don't see many logic at WG's Panthers. With it's weight and history backup they should have solid frontal armor. Also it will be playable.
@@agbrenv That'd be fine. It'd mean that the tank would be able to trade better, since it almost always gives away some of its health every time it leaves cover to take a shot at something. A high RoF is useless unless you're shooting at something that's in the open.
The time slip/travel commentary at the end of second game and at the beginning of the third, though... Well, Skill is the director of this film, he knows better about the artistic choices.
That commanders hatch are waiting for some drone love 😉
I never had a bad match in this tank. Long gun is amazing.
Funny I was just looking at buying it on the tech tree.
The creator of these videos are amazing, He Really Is the Best UA-cam Videos of World of Tanks, That's This Guy
This is so far my only tank i've managed to 2 mark. And honestly the expectation values are too low for this decent tank. Needs a turbo tho. This thing otherwise is just too slow.
3 marked it myself to 100% a few times, and I'd have to say that turbo would be a mistake (just my opinion). This tank is all about the gun, maximize that to the extreme! Rammer and vents for max DPM and then go for optics so you're not blind (what I run), or IRM or even vert stabs.
-By the way, the expectation values are so low because too many people try to play every medium the exact same way. Panther and Panther II are all about sustained DPM, just wearing enemies down.
black ping reference everywhere :D
Thank you for showing hard game.
Skieeeel I was just wishing that you would play with this!!! Also did you see the caernarvon game where the gentleman playing achieved 9k?
Haven't had that much fun in a tier 8 tech tree med in a very long time. The gun is amazing and honestly I feel disappointed with e50's gun one tier higher after the panther 2. No idea why but e50s big gun is the most unreliable reliable gun I've ever played with, even 130pm gun feels better with its notorious SU moments
This gun also works quite well on the E 50, in my experience. I can't decide if I prefer it over the 105 mm, both seem to work for me but statistically I have slightly better games on average with the 105.
nah...as toptier against tier 7, yes! against Tier 10 nooo! you cant trade and u cant use the good dpm on the long gun
@@Knebebelmeyer I mean, sure, but if you're trading with an E 50 that's not going to end well for you regardless of which gun you have. Ideally you'd utilize the armor in a way that puts you at an advantage.
@@Knebebelmeyer you shouldn’t even be trading with this tank or the e50 against any heavy tanks whatsoever. You should be sniping and constantly relocating in this tank. Never trading. Literally anything but.
@@JesusluvzE50 can go in front as well, very good armor for a medium. It's more like a fast heavy imo
@@EvilCouncil yeah, but 150 at the most in lobbies where most guys have 250+ pen makes that not such a great idea. It can be, I guess. But you’ve got to remember everyone is running gold ammo these days too, so it really ain’t good for that either. The armour imo is good for getting lucky bounces while you’re flanking or relocating lol.
Best title of the year.
Speaking of tank gun, heard that how long it is means little if its not thick enough... 😉
Panther 2 needs armor for sure.. close its a Tiger, but twenty ft.. arty 😮
After 5 months i loaded this game and played 3 games, we won 2 and I had a few kills in each, but each time I was lower tier, and I honestly think my participation made no difference at all, it was pre-determined as soon as the teams were selected by WG. ) If I were a super fluffy unicorn then maybe...
This my only tier 8 3rd mark tank,
Maybe is the best gun in medium same tiers.
panther 2 gloriously difficult tank
☺
I love this gun and tank!!
Panter ll called Pinocchio😂
Uh when i see your 1411days of premium, and realize that i have premium only from missions hahaha every time gets me 🤦🏻♂️
19:02 I disagree. Just play X, always top tier :p
Sideways, Guys, sideways...BAAAM.
😅
do you guys have any tips on how to grind f2p tanks ? the struggle is real. thanks
Sitck with tanks you like/ are familiar with. Don't rush tiers. Save up blueprints and free XP to skip bad tanks & stock modules.
Long pp best pp.
thnx
This vehicle gun handling is a shit fot its alpha and pen. Wargaming has not shame saying this tank with 223mm of pen has a tier IX gun. Man, this Wargaming is so dishonest. Unbeliveablely dishonest.
Good first game there skill pz2 went were none was and killed reds for breakfast
Having good gun handling is very nice to have sure, but still, a single-shooter for 250 alpha in todays game with all auto(re)loaders, heavy hitting heavys and ferraries...hardly epic.
You can do well in any tank if you're a good player. So why should a good player play a tank that is far inferior to many ohters. If you wanna play Panther 2, play a TD insted imho.
Your awesome and awesome video
and the light camping at the base did not help
GG
Thanks for playing tanks that had no video for a long time... Noticed another one:
GSR 3301 Setter
Not saying that to annoy you. Sorry.
This POS literally made me quit this game. That was before the buff.
Still seems pretty bad nowadays...
its a bad tank that does 280 damage now
@@leonardoariewibowo7867 Unless it lowrolls or misses every shot, like it did when I played it. kek
@@reinermiteibidde1009 Panther II is bad in many ways, but missing shots is not one of them lol
@@iron_b0olt I swear it's been fucking with my game somehow. At the time I was a 55% shitter, with this thing I was at 45% WR over 250 games.
G'Day
oh, and waltzing through the open field on the enmy side? sure! rock-solid tactics.... FFS, how is that even possible???
You need to make sure to turn off your spotlight before the battle... lol
on my f2p acc this tank is a gem... ;)
👍👍
The thing with WoT and the big cats (Tiger, Panther etc.) is that they were made to serve as long to mid range tanks in the real world, with powerful cannons and adequate armor against 75mm Shermans and T-34 tanks at medium range, but WoT maps and mechanics don't work like that, they are fat and impossible to hide, the maps are either a large field where if you fire you get spotted or it's a city map where you can't snipe at all and so on. It's what creates this "issue" in the game and german vehicles in general
I'd beg to disagree that German tanks in general don't work in WoT. I primarily play them, with the Panther and Panther II being among my most played and I do quite well overall.
@@MongooseJakeGames My most played vehicles are the Tiger 1 and E75 and I do amazing in them, it's just that you need to know how to play them really well, if you make a little mistake in both vehicles you are essentially dead. Which would be just fine if other nations had the same consequence for making that same mistake (US heavies have turrets, Russians have troll armor on all vehicles, Frenchies have speed, whereas the germans have only strong guns that often can't help them in a 1v1 or 1v2 scenario). Another thing (sorry for this long af comment) is that german vehicles have engines made of plastic, every time your sprocket gets hit in the E75, Tiger or the RHM the engine dies with it
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Skill, 15-4 (or 4-15)-ish end scores are not that rare in WOT at all. The game balance is very poor.
panther 2 it's bad tank i ever use ! please ! buff him now
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... sever asian is die man !
first battle you got lucky and made a lucky call....
Not being spotted after breaching bushline was enough info to push. it was only lucky he didn't get shot while doing it
@@ABoringTool that was a lucky call to push that early down the line, Panther is not any a more competitive tank. But he mad it work... Very good job
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Seems that u get rigged battles...
You are a undoubtely very good player but first battle was pure luck, reds just ignore you. If they goes hulldown or speed around it's over for lovely Panther II.
I can't stand this tank, but maybe that's just me;)
I wanted to say first but no
3. Game was the worst game ever saw by your side Skill.
What a BS... in any normal game you'd be dead the moment you jumped into the stream... Sorry, as much as I like your lives - the youtube videos and 100% luck battles are full of BS. There's no way you can pull this off in a typical battle.
Gun handling? Ahahahahahah. What a eastern bullshit I heard.
Heeeeyyy.. Speak for yourself my man..
I walk into a bar, I see a hot lady, I want to be an easy target..
Howbout you??
To bad you dont mentioning you play with no RNG ,,,and WG amazing skills
Lol
LOL...go hug a banana dud .....
panther 2 was so terrible to play, 3 marked it with like 48% wr. one of the worst tanks to play especially at that tier