@@fatrobin72 They did those fake 1050 ti for selling it as 1050 ti, I have seen a lot of people buying them for 150$ and trying to sell them when they noticed they was not capable of gaming. The event shown in this video is a rarity, maybe the scammers assumed that almost every people knew the scam at this point, so they started selling them as 550 ti at lower prices, but of course the sticker and the flashed bios to look like 1050 ti remains.
meh not that bad picked up a 1650 GTX at my best buy for 99 bucks again.. always best to try in store online isnt always where its at.. this is how i got my PS5 our local walmart had several in stock but it wasnt listed online as having them
It just seems like they had all these scammer cards and decided to sell them as the original card, but didn't bother to reflash the scam bios back to the original.
Its probably because noone bought these 1050 fakes anymore, so they decided to sell them as their original 550ti without altering them in any way to make the littlest money from them.
7:33 Your BIOS/EPROM burner might be just fine, those "clip on" things aren't reliable. You should remove the chip and flash it directly the socket of your EPROM burner. You could technically flash the bios while booted into DOS, since almost all video cards can flash their BIOS, a lot like you can with motherboards. You might need to force the flasher to run with command line switches.
Card was probably f*cked up by too many flashings of whatever scam BIOS was most desirable at the time. That is why David could not make it to work even with correct one.
@@kairukun93 That's true.. so I'd try using a bios flashing in DOS using the GPU it self so you don't have to worry about voltage compatibility. There's likely a common one you can use from Nvidia, for all Nvidia cards to flash the bios.
I think I know what happened. Our boys out in china were like "hey boss, you're not going to believe this but there is people willing to buy the GPUs for what they are", the boss got excited and published them with their real name but forgot to re flash the original bios on them. It's like the bad guy trying to be the hero but he doesn't know how to do it
The boss didn't forget to flash the original bios nor removing the 1050 ti sticker on the PCB, those kind of psychos doesn't care about nothing, they just changed the title and price at the website, from 150$ 1050 ti to 70$ 550 ti and gooooooo
Dude this cards are $70-100 dollars, you can get an R9 280 (hd 7970 3gb) for $100 which is 1050 ti performance and only 15% slower than a RX470, although it consume triple the power and drivers were cut on Q1 2020, still way more capable than this.
Just look out for deals, sometimes you hit the jackpot. 2 days ago I bought 2060 Super for 750 CAD the other day, so like 587 USD. It is higher than the MSRP, for sure, but not the $1000+ scalpers are asking. I also saw a GALAX 3060 card for 850 CAD, but the 2060 Super is cooler.
I can imagine the failed-IQ-test-employee reporting to the boss: "I'm finished! I reflashed bios, and put stickers on, and sanded down the die!" Boss: "You IDIOT!! -it doesn't matter anymore!! -just sell them as what they are!!".
As a white guy who lives in China and deals with the Chinese tech industry, the guys who will do the flashing, soldiering on this scam etc are 100% middle school / high school dropouts who do exactly what they’re told with 0 critical thinking. Dawd should hit me up with the Ali express store info I’d love to give these guys a call for shits and giggles, am fluent in chinese
I am so curious as to how/where these are made. Are we talking a small factory pumping out scam cards or some back alley mom and pop shop scouring e-waste bins for antique gpus and making them by hand?
I'm thinking we have some kind of electronics recycling scheme where they piece together Frankenstein parts from whatever will more or less work. They get lots of e-waste, do what they can with them, and advertise them in the best possible "creative" way online, making them look as good as possible. While also lying their arses off. Case in point, a 1050 bios on a 550 board. It's basically cobbled together second hand parts, with a strong hint of buyer beware.
For real and also they always look pretty clean. you think they would look all beats up haha it's crazy they can do this I would love to see how they really do it and the whole process lol.
It's the second one. It's called shanzhai. So there's a large scale operation in China where dead mobo are being salvaged for chipsets and ic's. Basically cut the PCB. Then those components are reused. That also includes "new" h55 h61 mainboards
an im the dude exposing the scammers by not telling you who is behind it so we all can continue to profit iff scamming you - someone allowed to be exposing scammers in the media when the media is owned by the scammers
The man the myth and the legend keeping us up to date with whats new with the scammers and if the market gets any worse, *usable*graphics cards(maybe).
I've taken to nicknaming that distinctive green-highlighted scam shroud design as the Lime Racing Stripes. Also, I can find it believable they meant to list it as a 1050 ti but accidentally wrote what it actually was and never bothered to proofread.
@@shaneeslick could be that enough people have alerted others about this obvious scam and now they are just resorting to telling the truth (kind of) im sure they've already made their money on previous scams and this is just their leftovers
@@musek5048 Yeah in the last couple of years there have been tons of channels with videos outing them, even if people are not watching the videos having so many Thumbnails that display the Coolers with SCAM plastered across them would still be getting the message through. The thing is with channels I watch like RGinHD, LSG & some others talking to people in comments there are many that have GPUs like 710 or even worse that want a new GPU but are scared to (or parents won't let them) buy a used GPU because there is No Warranty, Like the Huananzhi X58, X77 Motherboards if these were Flashed with the Correct BIOS that works with Genuine nVIDIA Drivers & listed as the GPU they really are with 'Recycled' New + a 3 or 6 month Warranty these people would buy them & while they would not be mind blowing they're still a worthwhile upgrade
@@shaneeslick Hm... with that context then that sounds like, as Kouki Munster said, the original scam got outed and they're now just shotgunning different listings on the off chance they dupe a few more people either that desperate for a card or have no idea what the designations mean.
that doesn't work like that. 12V line that go to PCIe is shared on three pins that are always bridged on card into single plane. So there is 12V or there is not. Ofc that doesn't mean that you can draw unlimited power from there, pins would just burn out. But MBO doesn't have control over delivery, it came directly from 12V plane inside PCB.
OEM motherboards can also be locked down. I know Lenovo made it hard to use different GPUs with their older systems. Could be that it just didn’t want to mingle with the GPU. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff it's Lenovo, from what we know about them maybe they just didn't like bios from new GPUs, expect signed one or something like that. But it's not about power, can't be.
You know a content creator is top tier when you see the thumbnail, read nothing of the video and just click while yelling, "Yes! NEW DAWID, LET'S GOOO!" 😅
@@the_broly_arms Hah, if shipping to the Philippines were more affordable I'd have that same Loser Nitro Suckface Edition shirt he's wearing in the vid!
@@reikisano4542 Its pretty sad that people that people does not see what NVIDIA is doing because they just follow what NVIDIA chillers youtubers. Its cristal clear that 3050 is paper launch with fake MSRP but some folks persist in compare it with the 6500xt. The truth is: The 6500xt, bad or not, is a graphic card you can buy at MSRP right now, but the 3050 is card that is selling for 2 times + the MSRP.
Probably they had so many returns for selling fake 1050ti so they started selling it as what it really is (550ti) but didnt bother to flash the correct bios before selling
it's not just returns, for fake product AE will give refund even without return. But they probably make enough money from people that never return cards or apply for refund provided evidence of fakery to make it still somewhat profitable. Strange anyway, I'm sure there are lot of people who just need cheap display adapter and who will buy gt550 for reasonable price.
i just gotta say, this channel is truly an inspiration like omg your presentation is unlike any other tech youtuber and is so much more interesting pls dont change
@@morphingtime2000 His name is the Polish form of David but I think his accent sounds Welsh. (for those people in the US, that is from the country of Wales in the UK).
@@morphingtime2000 To clear it up, he's from Namibia - which is a neighbour to South Africa, hence the dodgy accent - he now lives in Canadia, and his speech is typical sarcasm, with a touch of sorry...
it's simple, they have 1 GPU and 3 or more different advertisements maximising exposure and whichever ad or listing you decide to purchase through, you will get the same gpu.
They probably had those cards sitting around for a while with scam 1050 Ti BIOS . Considering that David could not flash proper BIOS to this example, it is quite likely scammers could not either.
@@aleksazunjic9672 Ah yes, they flashed a fake BIOS on them and couldn't reflash the original one. I don't think they even tried tbh. It's more cost to them after all.
We use those chip programmers for production, when someone screws up it's cheaper to replace than a $1000 programmer. The power supply on them is quite weak though, and depending on the circuit you connect it to it can crash trying to backfeed the entire board. You can try desoldering and slightly lifting the vcc leg of the bios chip.
For anyone looking into fixing one of these using the bios flasher, note that the actual chip is on the other side of the board in most instances, not where it was shown near the end there. Also the flashers are very finicky, so you basically have to get it on well enough to read from the chip then not touch it until after the flash.
Excellent video. Damn, these are even listed on eBay as used GTX 1050 TI! I suspect that the sellers aren't always aware that they sale counterfeit stuff.
My guess is some scammer was at one point selling a 1050 ti, and they had leftover stock, so they decided to sell them on Aliexpress under the actual card's name.
6:30 ok so heres why, there are thousands of these made but they now now banned on most sits or are removed within hours as ppl know they are not the 1050ti as they have vga ports. so now all the fake 1050tis need t be sold so they are now selling then listed as what they really are to get the money in, even though the flashed bios means it props wont even be as relievable as a 450ti . this card was never made to be sold as a 450ti it was made to be sold for £200 as a 1050ti the con was soon exposed so they sold them for £70 as 1050ti but ebay refunded everyone so now they call then by their chip name 450ti and still sell for £70, i think it was scalpers mainly who tryed selling these for £200 on ebay as they are just con men and have no idea what a gpu is, im glad they got refuned and stuck with them, the guy whos are still having large stock over seas are now shifting them as 450ti hoping no more refunds and no move getting took down.
The price of this card is the craziest part. I've bought 2 gtx560ti's for a Windows XP machine. They cost less than $50 each shipped to and from the US. So who is paying $20 more for a 550ti that's taking longer to ship?
I made this mistake the beginning of last year. They attempted to do that bs where they have a pity story when you dm them. They keep assuring you there factory is the HIGHEST quality. When I pressed about what that means they tried to claim that they had built the entire graphics card, down to the die itself XD! I told them that I know for a fact that they didn't because they are just a reseller. Then they kept offering me like half the money back 60%, 70%, 80% then I got a complete refund. There business model is to pity people and make them feel helpless so they only give half the money back and walk with the rest.
I just ran a price check on a GTS 450, and there about $20-30. They are powerful enough to run up to about GTA V at playable settings. 1080P low, or bump the graphics in 720P, frame scaling ect. I remember when they cost about $50 new old stock Dell cards.
It always surprised me how well made these are. Like they cooled it properly, the PCB looks half decent, a lot of effort went into designing and building these, surely there are easier ways of scamming?!
I have to think the PCB design is borrowed from an existing sample, but I could be wrong. Most of the bigger components are mounted crooked, almost like they were done by hand. I do wonder how much there is to make doing this, but I guess if you are taking e-waste and making a product out of it you might have a decent margin.
@Dakshesh GaubaI have wondered that too, I assumed it was for legal reasons, like they could be more easily charged if the victim was in the same country. It's such an awful thing to do to people, and the way some go about it is just down right evil.
Some of them have actually answered that in some 'scam the scammer' type videos Ive seen. They see it as morally good to harm Western peoples, they don't see themselves as crooks hence the lack of scamming at home.
Pro tip David. When working with OEM motherboards it's always a wise idea to go look up and double check to make sure that the motherboard supports a certain graphics card. OEM motherboards tend to not always support allot of older graphics cards because of how lazy their manufacturing teams are . I know this because I've run into this problem before with a actual GTX 550 TI . I had to use a different motherboard.
It baffles me the fact, that we are in a point with wish, aliexpress that we get offended if they dont scammed us. Talk about arc character development.
I have my theory: they sell the card they say, but purposedly flash the fake bios so when an uninformed buyer plugs it in and sees it's actually a higher one they go "oh they gave me a better one!" thus, creating a fake sense of trust so they can sell more also I didn't know how bad could a 550 Ti be, and oh god... it's weaker than a 1030...
Did you try using the DVI port instead of HDMI on with the old dell motherboard? sometimes the HDMI wont work until you start the computer up and update drivers.
The funny thing is if they left it as a GTX 550ti, they would probably sell more. It wasn't such a bad card. I still have one in one of my older rigs and it's fine.
If you gonna buy this, you better trying to snag old AMD hd cards, HD 7770 (2 GB) is good up to 2015 games usually $60-80 bucks (Half the performance of 1050 ti) and the Hd 7970 (3gb) has 1050 ti performance for $100-125. Although driver support was cut Q1 2020
@@Nachokinz Nice, I'm gonna suppose those are unofficial, are they regularly update? I want to snag a R9 390 for fun and then use it on a secondary system for my brother.
@@goa141no6 Yes they are unofficial and updated every few months. It won't run games like Halo Infinite that require full directx 12 support as that is a hardware limitation; but games like Forza using only some features should have much less graphical artifacting. Using FSR on such cards also becomes a possibility to improve performance.
its war tactics. sell you broken trash. take your nations money. an then when physical war is brought to your land you try to use a melted pile of plastic to defend yourself vs actually working tech. you guys/the globalist probably invented this type of warfare with the opium wars an the original black plague
I feel the reason it's got the fake BIOS is that they probably just flashed all the cards with fake the BIOS intending to sell them and were surprised when people actually wanted the original cards so just sent whatever stock they had, flashed or not
I’m waiting on a 280x from Ontario it’s been like 2 weeks and my brand new pc has no display yet Oopie, adding on, I bet you could make your own cooler that’s better than these god awful aluminum blocks
I have a question you may or may not be able to answer, I have a rx 580 8gb Asus dual fan cooler. One of the cooler fans just broke could it be possible to change the cooler out for the three fan version?
actually if u use the installer on that cd the fake gpu runs like nothing happens what i mean is it runs like a normal 1050ti but still its fake have you tried it with the cd included?
I found an hp pavilion for 733 dollars with a ryzen 5 5600g and an rx 5500 4 gb and was wondering if you could look at it and tell if it’s worth the price.
In 2021 I've bought one of these cards to repair a real 550 ti. Actually the all card was cheaper then the single GPU chip. Also it was soldered so bad that basically it came off blowing it 10 seconds.
hey, when i had a gtx 560 i plugged it into my dell optiplex, and it wouldnt boot. it doesnt support that old of a gpu, even though the platform is old. and yet it supports a 1060.
Some bios chips on those cards use a 3 volt bios chip version instead of the 5v ones, the flasher you have, is the old version which isn't compatible with the 3 volt chips, luckely for you Dawid, there is a new version of the "brain-flasher" for scam gpu's you can buy which supports the 2 versions of bios chips! Maby give that a go?
I was looking at the prices of GPUs the other day and decided, on a lark, to check the prices of GTX 1060 6GB cards...and saw that they had actually increased in price from when I bought mine in 2017 (my price: $280...current price: ~$300+). I'm pretty sure that I might be able to sell my setup for about the same price I paid for it nearly 5 years ago. PCs are really not supposed to hold their value that well.
You wouldn’t believe how we Brazilians suffer with the prices of GPU. I couldn’t afford and I can’t afford one at the moment. Because a fairly good one who would play a game In high settings Could cost over 4 minimum wages. And in my case I started a budget PC, upgrading wouldn’t be easy because I would have to upgrade other parts of my computer too. That said, I came across your video because I’ve seen a lot of Brazilians saying it was a good deal Buying GPUs from AliExpress. I understand the risk people are going through training those GPUs, because if you guys are being hit hard with the prices, a $400 GPU Could cost over 10 times that price. At least in our currency, which I am equivalence is to have very high price to pay. So thanks for your video is very clarifying and prevented me from making a big mistake in the future.
omg that's the exact GPU i have!!!!!!!! I bought it Accidentally around 6 years ago and once by the time i found out, it was already too late! so the GPU is just sitting wrapped in it's original bubble wrap.
It’s even better that they sold the card as what it is, but still didn’t put the correct information in the title/picture, like ddr5 memory and 128bit bus
Heads up that some Dell motherboards have a full x16 PCIE slot, but don’t give the slot the whole 75w as per spec. Some cards like this won’t work because it will need external power.
The real issue here is that these companies should not be in business. If they are going to lengths where they are removing information from the CPU, they should in prison. No different to altering VIN numbers on cars.
5:47 also David you said that you think that the card couldn't draw enough power to need a heatsink on the power delivery . I'll let you know that I can cook a steak on my gtx 550 ti that has a msi twin frozzr cooler on it . The gtx 550 ti can run super hot.
seems like the seller got a bunch of these scam GPUs labeled as 1050 ti for cheap enough that listing the real card into and selling it for what you paid was still enough to make enough of a profit. and didnt put any extra time into flashing the card back. just shipped the hardware and called it a day.
Hi Dawid, I have a query... I'm planning to buy gigabyte rx 6500 xt(triple fan) for my pc and i'm not sure if i buy it or go for 1650 TUF gaming(dual fan)...please suggest
I got the same one, but in white with red haha. Off Newegg even! It'll blue screen any time you try installing drivers and it turned out to be a GTX550.
It's so sad that the GPU shortage has got so bad scammers can't even get hold of desirable keyword lies.
I think it is more that it would be too obvious if they called it a 1050ti with the on going scalping it would look way too good to be true
I know right, the are the real ones suffering. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff can you please tell what glasses you wear I really like em
@@fatrobin72 They did those fake 1050 ti for selling it as 1050 ti, I have seen a lot of people buying them for 150$ and trying to sell them when they noticed they was not capable of gaming. The event shown in this video is a rarity, maybe the scammers assumed that almost every people knew the scam at this point, so they started selling them as 550 ti at lower prices, but of course the sticker and the flashed bios to look like 1050 ti remains.
meh not that bad picked up a 1650 GTX at my best buy for 99 bucks again.. always best to try in store online isnt always where its at.. this is how i got my PS5 our local walmart had several in stock but it wasnt listed online as having them
"in 2020 things are getting a bit weird" we're all stuck in 2020 Dawid, we all are.
Yeah, Because of Lockdowns there are no seasons so it is just one long All the same 🙄
You see as I put it., 2020. Then 2020 won (2021) and now we're in 2020 2.0 (2022) so we're forever stuck in 2020
This is an old video released to his exclusive fansly. If you were a true Dawid fan you would know this. Many people are saying this!
@@immortaloni9191 crimge
@@NFStopsnuf nigga cant spell
2020 will be a great year
The joy when you think you're getting a 6500XT and it turns out to be a scam and you score yourself a 550ti upgrade.
Well the 550ti has more features....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Unknown Nomad - No, the 550ti has a 192bit bus, whereas the 6500xt has a only a 92bit bus.
Don't ..like..buy franken shit. Only way you can be scammed like that is to be enough stupid to choose bad store with bad product.
It just seems like they had all these scammer cards and decided to sell them as the original card, but didn't bother to reflash the scam bios back to the original.
Same, that's what I was about to say
Its probably because noone bought these 1050 fakes anymore, so they decided to sell them as their original 550ti without altering them in any way to make the littlest money from them.
@@t0uchmyh0rn and also because the GPU market is bad, so even if they sold them as the original cards they would probably still make plenty profit
For sure! I guess you don’t become a scammer because you take pride in your work. 😂
its because the original scammer that does all the engineering work sold it to another scammer and the new scammer is not technically inclined.
7:33 Your BIOS/EPROM burner might be just fine, those "clip on" things aren't reliable. You should remove the chip and flash it directly the socket of your EPROM burner.
You could technically flash the bios while booted into DOS, since almost all video cards can flash their BIOS, a lot like you can with motherboards. You might need to force the flasher to run with command line switches.
I'm wondering if NVFlash works with these?
Card was probably f*cked up by too many flashings of whatever scam BIOS was most desirable at the time. That is why David could not make it to work even with correct one.
or... some bios chips operates on different voltage, there is a 3.3v type and USB runs mostly or pretty much all of them is 5 volts.
@@kairukun93 That's true.. so I'd try using a bios flashing in DOS using the GPU it self so you don't have to worry about voltage compatibility. There's likely a common one you can use from Nvidia, for all Nvidia cards to flash the bios.
@@shaneeslick yeah that's what I was thinking.
I think I know what happened.
Our boys out in china were like "hey boss, you're not going to believe this but there is people willing to buy the GPUs for what they are", the boss got excited and published them with their real name but forgot to re flash the original bios on them.
It's like the bad guy trying to be the hero but he doesn't know how to do it
Not all heroes wear capes...........i guess. FFS I just called a GPU scammer a hero Nvidia/ATI, see what you've done???!!!
The boss didn't forget to flash the original bios nor removing the 1050 ti sticker on the PCB, those kind of psychos doesn't care about nothing, they just changed the title and price at the website, from 150$ 1050 ti to 70$ 550 ti and gooooooo
Ah yes, scam GPUs. My only option to get a GPU
We need to learn how to scam pay the scammer selling scam gpu, so we scam scammers that scam the scammed.
😂😂
Dude this cards are $70-100 dollars, you can get an R9 280 (hd 7970 3gb) for $100 which is 1050 ti performance and only 15% slower than a RX470, although it consume triple the power and drivers were cut on Q1 2020, still way more capable than this.
Just look out for deals, sometimes you hit the jackpot. 2 days ago I bought 2060 Super for 750 CAD the other day, so like 587 USD. It is higher than the MSRP, for sure, but not the $1000+ scalpers are asking.
I also saw a GALAX 3060 card for 850 CAD, but the 2060 Super is cooler.
@@First-Name_Last-Name I actually did it got the refund from aliexpress and kept the gpu too so it was free rx 570 for me :D
I can imagine the failed-IQ-test-employee reporting to the boss: "I'm finished! I reflashed bios, and put stickers on, and sanded down the die!"
Boss: "You IDIOT!! -it doesn't matter anymore!! -just sell them as what they are!!".
Just like Spidermans boss asking for a scoop?
@@buggerlugz6753 Haha -Exactly like Jameson!
I guess they just did it all out of habit. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yes!😆
As a white guy who lives in China and deals with the Chinese tech industry, the guys who will do the flashing, soldiering on this scam etc are 100% middle school / high school dropouts who do exactly what they’re told with 0 critical thinking. Dawd should hit me up with the Ali express store info I’d love to give these guys a call for shits and giggles, am fluent in chinese
imagine buying a " REAL 100% gtx 1650" from ali express but a real 3090 comes in instead
My HTPC build is ruined!
ali express is used to be legit I built my PC in 2019 completely from ali express still works fine and parts were original
Mighta be hell of a bottleneck if u got a crap cpu, ram and mobo
@@kml_arf who would use that most people would resell and buys a whole new pc with that money
I am so curious as to how/where these are made. Are we talking a small factory pumping out scam cards or some back alley mom and pop shop scouring e-waste bins for antique gpus and making them by hand?
I'm thinking we have some kind of electronics recycling scheme where they piece together Frankenstein parts from whatever will more or less work. They get lots of e-waste, do what they can with them, and advertise them in the best possible "creative" way online, making them look as good as possible. While also lying their arses off. Case in point, a 1050 bios on a 550 board.
It's basically cobbled together second hand parts, with a strong hint of buyer beware.
For real and also they always look pretty clean. you think they would look all beats up haha it's crazy they can do this I would love to see how they really do it and the whole process lol.
Shenzhen is the capital of black (aka scam) factories. It's a shit fest.
It's the second one. It's called shanzhai.
So there's a large scale operation in China where dead mobo are being salvaged for chipsets and ic's. Basically cut the PCB. Then those components are reused. That also includes "new" h55 h61 mainboards
@@ShawnJonesHellion Wow, found the real human among NPC's
The GPU Scam migration sound and animations were a 11/10!
They're making a mess of Middle-Earth by the looks of things. As if Sauron hadn't given it a good go already.
A "silk road" montage would have been better......
"I'm the dude, scamming a dude, pretending to scam another dude." -Kirk Lazarus...probably
an im the dude exposing the scammers by not telling you who is behind it so we all can continue to profit iff scamming you - someone allowed to be exposing scammers in the media when the media is owned by the scammers
it took google over 10 years to allow one lacky to begin talking of their scams. they fired other people who did that before.
The man the myth and the legend keeping us up to date with whats new with the scammers and if the market gets any worse, *usable*graphics cards(maybe).
I've taken to nicknaming that distinctive green-highlighted scam shroud design as the Lime Racing Stripes.
Also, I can find it believable they meant to list it as a 1050 ti but accidentally wrote what it actually was and never bothered to proofread.
G'day Phil, They are being listed as 450, 550Ti & 650 here in Australia now instead of 750Ti & 1050Ti
@@shaneeslick could be that enough people have alerted others about this obvious scam and now they are just resorting to telling the truth (kind of) im sure they've already made their money on previous scams and this is just their leftovers
@@musek5048 Yeah in the last couple of years there have been tons of channels with videos outing them, even if people are not watching the videos having so many Thumbnails that display the Coolers with SCAM plastered across them would still be getting the message through.
The thing is with channels I watch like RGinHD, LSG & some others talking to people in comments there are many that have GPUs like 710 or even worse that want a new GPU but are scared to (or parents won't let them) buy a used GPU because there is No Warranty, Like the Huananzhi X58, X77 Motherboards if these were Flashed with the Correct BIOS that works with Genuine nVIDIA Drivers & listed as the GPU they really are with 'Recycled' New + a 3 or 6 month Warranty these people would buy them & while they would not be mind blowing they're still a worthwhile upgrade
@@shaneeslick Hm... with that context then that sounds like, as Kouki Munster said, the original scam got outed and they're now just shotgunning different listings on the off chance they dupe a few more people either that desperate for a card or have no idea what the designations mean.
They all have an Axe Body Spray theme. This is "Kilo".
Dude i laughed so hard, " going to put this piece of crap card with this piece of crap motherboard" lol dawid should do comedy for sure...
Beat me to it, Dawid's humour and editing skills are top shelf.
That t-shirt completes it.
What I found hilarious is that if he had just taken the power switch from that optiplex he ripped it out of it would actually tell him the issue.
Hes the only youtuber that i actually want to see his new videos as they come out, hoping it will be sponsored by... "LINOOOOODEE!... lol
Some dell motherboards do not supply the full 75W to the PCI-E port (only ~35W) this might be why the graphic card do not work.
that doesn't work like that. 12V line that go to PCIe is shared on three pins that are always bridged on card into single plane. So there is 12V or there is not. Ofc that doesn't mean that you can draw unlimited power from there, pins would just burn out. But MBO doesn't have control over delivery, it came directly from 12V plane inside PCB.
OEM motherboards can also be locked down. I know Lenovo made it hard to use different GPUs with their older systems. Could be that it just didn’t want to mingle with the GPU. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff it's Lenovo, from what we know about them maybe they just didn't like bios from new GPUs, expect signed one or something like that. But it's not about power, can't be.
1:03 When this sound was released from gpu box As the sound of fart at that time I decided that it does not bode well
You know a content creator is top tier when you see the thumbnail, read nothing of the video and just click while yelling, "Yes! NEW DAWID, LET'S GOOO!" 😅
While also thinking about Linode as soon as you click
@@charredolive It's always the long, menacing version in my head, "LINOOOOOOODE!"
The Dawidverse is fully fleshed out at this point. Now the only thing needed is to spread his legendary TIM
@@Lyander25 He also has the best merch available, I think.
@@the_broly_arms Hah, if shipping to the Philippines were more affordable I'd have that same Loser Nitro Suckface Edition shirt he's wearing in the vid!
Yes finally! Another episode of the scam GPUs series!
Lol at the "packaged like a Shenzhen dumpster fire". Almost as much of a scam at the 6500xt
You mean 6500xt _and_ 3050? One's a terrible card, the other one's a paper launch and immediately gets scalped to high heaven...
Almost.
@@reikisano4542 Its pretty sad that people that people does not see what NVIDIA is doing because they just follow what NVIDIA chillers youtubers. Its cristal clear that 3050 is paper launch with fake MSRP but some folks persist in compare it with the 6500xt. The truth is: The 6500xt, bad or not, is a graphic card you can buy at MSRP right now, but the 3050 is card that is selling for 2 times + the MSRP.
Probably they had so many returns for selling fake 1050ti so they started selling it as what it really is (550ti) but didnt bother to flash the correct bios before selling
it's not just returns, for fake product AE will give refund even without return. But they probably make enough money from people that never return cards or apply for refund provided evidence of fakery to make it still somewhat profitable. Strange anyway, I'm sure there are lot of people who just need cheap display adapter and who will buy gt550 for reasonable price.
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in bios the pci slot is probably locked try unlocking it and using it :/
i just gotta say, this channel is truly an inspiration like omg your presentation is unlike any other tech youtuber and is so much more interesting pls dont change
What's not love about how Dawid talks, does he have any other voice than sarcasm😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Lol I never noticed that you're right
I thought it was a Dutch or South African accent, but you might be right :)
@@morphingtime2000 he's in Canada, but I don't think that's a Canadian accent?
@@morphingtime2000 His name is the Polish form of David but I think his accent sounds Welsh. (for those people in the US, that is from the country of Wales in the UK).
@@morphingtime2000 To clear it up, he's from Namibia - which is a neighbour to South Africa, hence the dodgy accent - he now lives in Canadia, and his speech is typical sarcasm, with a touch of sorry...
it's simple, they have 1 GPU and 3 or more different advertisements maximising exposure and whichever ad or listing you decide to purchase through, you will get the same gpu.
This seems to have the most sense
This was a wild ride Dawid, I never expected drugs to be involved XD
Time to flash an RTX 3080 BIOS to my GTX 1080 and sell it as a GTX 1080. Yknow, to waste not only my time, but the customers time too
They probably had those cards sitting around for a while with scam 1050 Ti BIOS . Considering that David could not flash proper BIOS to this example, it is quite likely scammers could not either.
@@aleksazunjic9672 Ah yes, they flashed a fake BIOS on them and couldn't reflash the original one. I don't think they even tried tbh. It's more cost to them after all.
We use those chip programmers for production, when someone screws up it's cheaper to replace than a $1000 programmer. The power supply on them is quite weak though, and depending on the circuit you connect it to it can crash trying to backfeed the entire board. You can try desoldering and slightly lifting the vcc leg of the bios chip.
For anyone looking into fixing one of these using the bios flasher, note that the actual chip is on the other side of the board in most instances, not where it was shown near the end there. Also the flashers are very finicky, so you basically have to get it on well enough to read from the chip then not touch it until after the flash.
Excellent video. Damn, these are even listed on eBay as used GTX 1050 TI! I suspect that the sellers aren't always aware that they sale counterfeit stuff.
My guess is some scammer was at one point selling a 1050 ti, and they had leftover stock, so they decided to sell them on Aliexpress under the actual card's name.
scam starts when you paid $70 for it
6:30 ok so heres why, there are thousands of these made but they now now banned on most sits or are removed within hours as ppl know they are not the 1050ti as they have vga ports. so now all the fake 1050tis need t be sold so they are now selling then listed as what they really are to get the money in, even though the flashed bios means it props wont even be as relievable as a 450ti . this card was never made to be sold as a 450ti it was made to be sold for £200 as a 1050ti the con was soon exposed so they sold them for £70 as 1050ti but ebay refunded everyone so now they call then by their chip name 450ti and still sell for £70, i think it was scalpers mainly who tryed selling these for £200 on ebay as they are just con men and have no idea what a gpu is, im glad they got refuned and stuck with them, the guy whos are still having large stock over seas are now shifting them as 450ti hoping no more refunds and no move getting took down.
The price of this card is the craziest part. I've bought 2 gtx560ti's for a Windows XP machine. They cost less than $50 each shipped to and from the US.
So who is paying $20 more for a 550ti that's taking longer to ship?
I made this mistake the beginning of last year. They attempted to do that bs where they have a pity story when you dm them. They keep assuring you there factory is the HIGHEST quality. When I pressed about what that means they tried to claim that they had built the entire graphics card, down to the die itself XD! I told them that I know for a fact that they didn't because they are just a reseller. Then they kept offering me like half the money back 60%, 70%, 80% then I got a complete refund. There business model is to pity people and make them feel helpless so they only give half the money back and walk with the rest.
I ordered a GT710 from WISH and they scammed me by giving me a 1080TI
ARE YOU SURE MATE... again it was probably bios flashed to say 1080 ti but it's something else... lesser
You aren’t wrong on the year, Dawid. It still feels like we’re eternally stuck in 2020…
That's so crazy that people are filing down the numbers like it's a black market fire arm!
I just ran a price check on a GTS 450, and there about $20-30. They are powerful enough to run up to about GTA V at playable settings. 1080P low, or bump the graphics in 720P, frame scaling ect.
I remember when they cost about $50 new old stock Dell cards.
Your dedication to the scam video card market is admirable. another great video.
I got a deal alert from Newegg yesterday and it was 1660 super for 600 bucks. How is a 200 card going for 600 a "deal"?
"I have a video linked below in the description"
There's no video link there lol
It always surprised me how well made these are. Like they cooled it properly, the PCB looks half decent, a lot of effort went into designing and building these, surely there are easier ways of scamming?!
@Monochromatik They are a bit more sophisticated than that.
I have to think the PCB design is borrowed from an existing sample, but I could be wrong. Most of the bigger components are mounted crooked, almost like they were done by hand. I do wonder how much there is to make doing this, but I guess if you are taking e-waste and making a product out of it you might have a decent margin.
@Dakshesh GaubaI have wondered that too, I assumed it was for legal reasons, like they could be more easily charged if the victim was in the same country. It's such an awful thing to do to people, and the way some go about it is just down right evil.
Some of them have actually answered that in some 'scam the scammer' type videos Ive seen. They see it as morally good to harm Western peoples, they don't see themselves as crooks hence the lack of scamming at home.
Better made than the newer cards we've had from Nvidia and ATI lately. Which speaks volumes when the scammers are trying harder.
This cards are selling on ALi from 2017 est. In Russia, on our Ebay analog, named Avito, They still sells in sept 2022!
"Let's test this confused little bastard" ***horrendous flashback over my entire time in education ensues***
Pro tip David. When working with OEM motherboards it's always a wise idea to go look up and double check to make sure that the motherboard supports a certain graphics card. OEM motherboards tend to not always support allot of older graphics cards because of how lazy their manufacturing teams are . I know this because I've run into this problem before with a actual GTX 550 TI . I had to use a different motherboard.
This guy isn't exactly savvy, he just plugs shit into a motherboard then flips shit with no comprehension of the issue
I doubt he was going to spend any more time than necessary for a GPU he'll be throwing into recycling 5 minutes after making this video.
How have I only just found you UA-cam. Great video and energy. Subbed :)
It baffles me the fact, that we are in a point with wish, aliexpress that we get offended if they dont scammed us. Talk about arc character development.
I have my theory: they sell the card they say, but purposedly flash the fake bios so when an uninformed buyer plugs it in and sees it's actually a higher one they go "oh they gave me a better one!" thus, creating a fake sense of trust so they can sell more
also I didn't know how bad could a 550 Ti be, and oh god... it's weaker than a 1030...
Did you try using the DVI port instead of HDMI on with the old dell motherboard? sometimes the HDMI wont work until you start the computer up and update drivers.
No link in the description, now I must scroll the Dawid archives
The funny thing is if they left it as a GTX 550ti, they would probably sell more. It wasn't such a bad card. I still have one in one of my older rigs and it's fine.
If you gonna buy this, you better trying to snag old AMD hd cards, HD 7770 (2 GB) is good up to 2015 games usually $60-80 bucks (Half the performance of 1050 ti) and the Hd 7970 (3gb) has 1050 ti performance for $100-125. Although driver support was cut Q1 2020
Can also consider the "NimeZ" drivers to extend support for 7000, 200, 300, and fury series cards beyond Q1 2020.
@@Nachokinz Nice, I'm gonna suppose those are unofficial, are they regularly update? I want to snag a R9 390 for fun and then use it on a secondary system for my brother.
@@goa141no6 Yes they are unofficial and updated every few months. It won't run games like Halo Infinite that require full directx 12 support as that is a hardware limitation; but games like Forza using only some features should have much less graphical artifacting. Using FSR on such cards also becomes a possibility to improve performance.
Ha! Dawid, so glad I am not the only tuber having to *something when I misspeak and decide not to re-record the video 😂
Yeah, Dawid says he's gonna leave the link in the description and not bother to leave it behind like we're not even gonna notice.
So it was as advertised... and you bricked it anyway?
Yeah, this is starting to become really common. A lot of PC builders like Alarco on amazon uses them.
It's strange that they would go through so much trouble, to take it apart, sand a number off, and add useless components, JUUST to scam you..
its war tactics. sell you broken trash. take your nations money. an then when physical war is brought to your land you try to use a melted pile of plastic to defend yourself vs actually working tech.
you guys/the globalist probably invented this type of warfare with the opium wars an the original black plague
I feel the reason it's got the fake BIOS is that they probably just flashed all the cards with fake the BIOS intending to sell them and were surprised when people actually wanted the original cards so just sent whatever stock they had, flashed or not
I’m waiting on a 280x from Ontario it’s been like 2 weeks and my brand new pc has no display yet Oopie, adding on, I bet you could make your own cooler that’s better than these god awful aluminum blocks
bless you for covering this kind of tech stuff that the bigger channels don't :)
Someone already said something similar, but I was going to say The GPU market is so bad, the scammers cannot even get ahold of words.
Amazing! Just what i needed on this fine Saturday afternoon!!!
Scamming for the sake of scamming sounds entirely accurate for how things are now.
I have a question you may or may not be able to answer, I have a rx 580 8gb Asus dual fan cooler. One of the cooler fans just broke could it be possible to change the cooler out for the three fan version?
Do they actually sand the die? I thought sometimes Nvidia occasionally didn't engrave the chip number
I love all the cutaways to the funny things you make, like the gpu scam migration etc. You have a funky mind and I respect that a lot lmao :D
actually if u use the installer on that cd the fake gpu runs like nothing happens what i mean is it runs like a normal 1050ti but still its fake have you tried it with the cd included?
amazing video love the consistent video uploads
As soon as you see that pattern on the shroud (sometimes red flashes) and a driver disk you know its a scam.
I found an hp pavilion for 733 dollars with a ryzen 5 5600g and an rx 5500 4 gb and was wondering if you could look at it and tell if it’s worth the price.
In 2021 I've bought one of these cards to repair a real 550 ti. Actually the all card was cheaper then the single GPU chip. Also it was soldered so bad that basically it came off blowing it 10 seconds.
hey, when i had a gtx 560 i plugged it into my dell optiplex, and it wouldnt boot. it doesnt support that old of a gpu, even though the platform is old. and yet it supports a 1060.
"And the boss very aggressively does a HUGE amount of drugs off the table" xD
Where is the link to the SLI scam video with working bios on crap video cards ?
No, The BIOS Flasher has a pin right? you need to reposition the Jumper pin to read and write.
Some bios chips on those cards use a 3 volt bios chip version instead of the 5v ones, the flasher you have, is the old version which isn't compatible with the 3 volt chips, luckely for you Dawid, there is a new version of the "brain-flasher" for scam gpu's you can buy which supports the 2 versions of bios chips! Maby give that a go?
were is the link to the scam card sli video in the description? i cant find it.
I was looking at the prices of GPUs the other day and decided, on a lark, to check the prices of GTX 1060 6GB cards...and saw that they had actually increased in price from when I bought mine in 2017 (my price: $280...current price: ~$300+). I'm pretty sure that I might be able to sell my setup for about the same price I paid for it nearly 5 years ago. PCs are really not supposed to hold their value that well.
Is David aware that you can flash VBIOS directly with windows commands n stuff?
Yeah it's more work but it would be more reliable
You wouldn’t believe how we Brazilians suffer with the prices of GPU. I couldn’t afford and I can’t afford one at the moment. Because a fairly good one who would play a game In high settings Could cost over 4 minimum wages. And in my case I started a budget PC, upgrading wouldn’t be easy because I would have to upgrade other parts of my computer too. That said, I came across your video because I’ve seen a lot of Brazilians saying it was a good deal Buying GPUs from AliExpress. I understand the risk people are going through training those GPUs, because if you guys are being hit hard with the prices, a $400 GPU Could cost over 10 times that price. At least in our currency, which I am equivalence is to have very high price to pay. So thanks for your video is very clarifying and prevented me from making a big mistake in the future.
Scammers don’t even have to pretend like it’s a different card anymore, they’re selling anyway
I been looking for weeks about an updated opinion of Aliexpress from a respected content creator. Deadass
omg that's the exact GPU i have!!!!!!!! I bought it Accidentally around 6 years ago and once by the time i found out, it was already too late! so the GPU is just sitting wrapped in it's original bubble wrap.
Sell it and advertise it as a GTS 450
Now is the time to turn that accident into opportunity.
now the scam is the price of aliexpress graphics cards
It’s even better that they sold the card as what it is, but still didn’t put the correct information in the title/picture, like ddr5 memory and 128bit bus
The Dell mobo refuses to boot because can't provide good power via the pci-e slot. Some old Dells have max up to 25W power on pci-e.
Heads up that some Dell motherboards have a full x16 PCIE slot, but don’t give the slot the whole 75w as per spec. Some cards like this won’t work because it will need external power.
The real issue here is that these companies should not be in business. If they are going to lengths where they are removing information from the CPU, they should in prison. No different to altering VIN numbers on cars.
Where is the link on the description?
5:47 also David you said that you think that the card couldn't draw enough power to need a heatsink on the power delivery . I'll let you know that I can cook a steak on my gtx 550 ti that has a msi twin frozzr cooler on it . The gtx 550 ti can run super hot.
seems like the seller got a bunch of these scam GPUs labeled as 1050 ti for cheap enough that listing the real card into and selling it for what you paid was still enough to make enough of a profit. and didnt put any extra time into flashing the card back. just shipped the hardware and called it a day.
Hi Dawid,
I have a query...
I'm planning to buy gigabyte rx 6500 xt(triple fan) for my pc and i'm not sure if i buy it or go for 1650 TUF gaming(dual fan)...please suggest
Seems pretty obvious why a scammer would do that. It's just more options to sell a fake. More options is more successful scams.
I have had the same problem with some Dell pre built with graphic card
why would you pay $70 usd for 550Ti, on the FB marketplace here in Australia they go for $30-40 AUD or about 20-30 USD.
Have you ever tried the drivers from the CD that always comes with those fake gpus
I got the same one, but in white with red haha. Off Newegg even! It'll blue screen any time you try installing drivers and it turned out to be a GTX550.
Where's the video you said you'll link in the description?