im learning, and trying to buy a belt grinder in my price range. im looking at frames with and without motors, vfd's, ect., and may end up buying these components in stages. i want variable speed. thats for sure. i dont know that much about electrical. so, neither the KB 24D or 27D will run a single phase motor? i was getting the impression from another guy that with 115vac from the wall to a single phase motor, i could just get a dimmer switch from home depot to control the speed. ive since found a deticated "vari-speed" switch online, like a dimmer switch but with heat-sinking fins. but would the dimmer switch not be as smooth of power delivery? be jumpy? i dont need fancy but i do want a smooth belt speed. id like 2 horsepower as well and about 3500 rpm max. energy effenciy isnt a priority. suggestions?
I'm unfamiliar with the dimmer switch method but it sounds like it would work might be worth a shot or you can buy once cry once. You going to make the decision brother.
@@wildcatwilly yea, vfd's. where were they a few years ago. i just dont want anything i dont need. im sure people were controlling the speed before vfd's were necessary and required... demanded! YOU MUST BUY A VFD YOUNG MAN! oh well, ill find what im looking for eventually. thanks man
@@wildcatwilly yep! im learning all about that now.. permanant magnet PM motors. DC motors. youre right. lots of rotary switches in the market for DC motors. some start with AC from the wall and switch to DC for the motors. im getting the impression DC motors might have a lot more torque. anyway, DC or PM motors are big and heavy. with the tilting 2x72 frames im looking at theyd be to big at 1.5 or 2 hp.
@wildcatwilly Thank you for the response. We have a 110 motor that can be converted to 220, but that would still be a single phase right? Still no good.
As far as I understand it you can remove the capacitor from a single phase motor and convert it to a three-phase motor and use a vfd to power at and manipulate the speed.
is it a gfci breaker? a vfd output is pulsed, and the pulses induce high-frequency currents in the frame of the motor that then travel through the ground, and gfci outlets/breakers don't like that. they detect the currents and shut everything down. i wouldn't know how to help if it's just a normal breaker but i definitely have experienced immediate shutdowns when i have connected vfds to gfci outlets in the past.
@cablemanagement1524 Yes, i have an af/gf breaker on my garage circuit. i ended up changing the switching frequency of the kbac-24d by moving jumper j12 from 8k to the g2 sensitive jumper position for gfci. That fixed the breaker tripping, but the motor makes more of a higher pitched sound when running...
that's interesting, i didn't know you could change the carrier frequency on these drives. and yeah, the carrier frequency noise is part of the the trade-off. glad it fixed the tripping, though. i personally haven't worked with these KB units, although they look extremely solid. i use a Fuji Electric unit, which has an interesting feature that allows you to scramble the carrier frequency to make it sound more like white noise. the drawback is that the Fuji units are NOT nema 4 rated and they DO require programming and tuning. although a nema 1 conduit envlosure box can be purchased and installed.
Wow,thank you
Welcome
Does your status indicator show undervoltage flash senquence when you turn off the power to the unit?
I believe it does as the voltage drops out of the capacitors.
im learning, and trying to buy a belt grinder in my price range. im looking at frames with and without motors, vfd's, ect., and may end up buying these components in stages. i want variable speed. thats for sure. i dont know that much about electrical. so, neither the KB 24D or 27D will run a single phase motor? i was getting the impression from another guy that with 115vac from the wall to a single phase motor, i could just get a dimmer switch from home depot to control the speed. ive since found a deticated "vari-speed" switch online, like a dimmer switch but with heat-sinking fins. but would the dimmer switch not be as smooth of power delivery? be jumpy?
i dont need fancy but i do want a smooth belt speed. id like 2 horsepower as well and about 3500 rpm max. energy effenciy isnt a priority. suggestions?
I'm unfamiliar with the dimmer switch method but it sounds like it would work might be worth a shot or you can buy once cry once. You going to make the decision brother.
@@wildcatwilly yea, vfd's. where were they a few years ago. i just dont want anything i dont need. im sure people were controlling the speed before vfd's were necessary and required... demanded! YOU MUST BUY A VFD YOUNG MAN! oh well, ill find what im looking for eventually. thanks man
Back in the day they would use DC motors to vary the speed check eBay maybe
@@wildcatwilly yep! im learning all about that now.. permanant magnet PM motors. DC motors. youre right. lots of rotary switches in the market for DC motors. some start with AC from the wall and switch to DC for the motors. im getting the impression DC motors might have a lot more torque. anyway, DC or PM motors are big and heavy. with the tilting 2x72 frames im looking at theyd be to big at 1.5 or 2 hp.
I'm not sure what you're budget is but if you send me an email I can send some links that would help for reasonable prices
Will this work on a 2hp general purpose single phase motor?
No the motor has to be three phase to manipulate the speed.
Will that run a 110 motor?
The vfd can run off of 110 volt. To manipulate the speed you have to have a three-phase motor.
@wildcatwilly Thank you for the response. We have a 110 motor that can be converted to 220, but that would still be a single phase right? Still no good.
You're very welcome. Yes unfortunately that will still be single phase for you.
You can buy cheap 3-phase motors offline I would estimate about $180
looking for a VFD for a blower motor with a capacitor, any suggestions?
I'm no electrician but I don't think any vfd motor will have a capacitor because they are three phase...
@@wildcatwilly thanks, i meant my motor has a run capacitor, is there a vfd for this situation
As far as I understand it you can remove the capacitor from a single phase motor and convert it to a three-phase motor and use a vfd to power at and manipulate the speed.
Where do I buy them
@@PeterHatch-mx7zc state motor control
This motor says it runs on above 200 volts but you gave it connection of 110 volts how is that possible will not motor burn out?
The vfd stores energy. It will compensate for it.
@@wildcatwilly can you suggest me kb drive for half hp motor
@@DarveshKhan-j5d this same one will do it. Just by changing one of the jumpers inside.
Any idea why the breaker trips when i connect my ground from the 3ph motor to the vfd but runs fine when i disconnect the ground?
is it a gfci breaker? a vfd output is pulsed, and the pulses induce high-frequency currents in the frame of the motor that then travel through the ground, and gfci outlets/breakers don't like that. they detect the currents and shut everything down. i wouldn't know how to help if it's just a normal breaker but i definitely have experienced immediate shutdowns when i have connected vfds to gfci outlets in the past.
these currents can also come out in the shaft and shock you, if the motor is very small
@cablemanagement1524 Yes, i have an af/gf breaker on my garage circuit. i ended up changing the switching frequency of the kbac-24d by moving jumper j12 from 8k to the g2 sensitive jumper position for gfci. That fixed the breaker tripping, but the motor makes more of a higher pitched sound when running...
that's interesting, i didn't know you could change the carrier frequency on these drives. and yeah, the carrier frequency noise is part of the the trade-off. glad it fixed the tripping, though.
i personally haven't worked with these KB units, although they look extremely solid. i use a Fuji Electric unit, which has an interesting feature that allows you to scramble the carrier frequency to make it sound more like white noise. the drawback is that the Fuji units are NOT nema 4 rated and they DO require programming and tuning. although a nema 1 conduit envlosure box can be purchased and installed.
Very interesting
can be ran?😅
Yes it can
I have a 110v 3/4hp 3450rpm, single phase motor, on a belt grinder, this is perfect, how can I get 1 ?
You will have to have a three phase motor.
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Hi good evening.
I am looking for a VFD for the motor below.
RPM: 1750
VOLTAGE: 115/230
2 HP
FREQUENCY: 60
PHASE: 1
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Just put a capacitor and it will go
No programming ?!!!!!
I have recently purchased a 7.5hp 3phase 24" planer, and for God sake I just want to do a simple phase conversion ..
Yes sir no programming. I sell complete units if interested.
@WildcatWilly what should I search on your website based on my needs ?
Can you message me on facebook?
@WildcatWilly
I dont have a FB account
Let me see if I can use my wife's phone
I'm getting ready to leave for the weekend but I can get you fixed up probably Monday
New motors cost less than the vfd
That is an accurate assessment... However you will not be able to vary the speed...