Sounds like Saucony needed an expensive brick so, like adidas borrowing the name Boston or the Nike Zoom Fly 5, used a well known shoe name to help sell it.
@@karls8989 curious how my opinion of Puma shoes is relevant to a comment about a Saucony shoe. Anyway I have bought 3 Puma shoes in the last few years. All were OK but none of them truly wowed me I admit. Liberate Nitro I liked the most. Anyway I don’t think I will be buying this Kinvara Pro but if you do and report back it is wonderful I may think again.
I do the laces the same way Laura does on almost all my running shoes. But to use all the lace holes on the Nike Pegasus 39 and the ZoomX Invincible, I had to replace the stock laces with longer ones. For the Hoka Mach 5, Saucony Ride 14 and Endorphin Speed, the laces they came with were long enough.
269 grams is actually quite light for such a big shoe. The speedroll tech in Saucony shoes is the best in my opinion. The plate is not really necessary but still. Awesome looking shoe. 200 beans is a bit heavy
So half size up and half size down? The whole sizing thing is a nightmare when there seems to be lack of running shops around that carry top end models
Saucony just seems to have odd sizing. I can wear an 11 in any other brand with no drama, but Saucony width profiles through the length of the foot is so odd (and varies from shoe to shoe) that in a world of online shopping, I've just given up on them.
For myself it does not matter what the shoe is like , any shoe which is more expensive in the UK then it is in the US is off my look at list. Unless they are being manufactured in the US (which Saucony have not been in a long time) then there is no excuse.
I run exclusively in Saucony and i feel like they need to slim down their lineup. Kinvara was something completely different last year, now it becomes tall and is plated? Weird. I can train daily with Triumph 20 or the Speed 2, still good at almost 700km for my original pair, so i am pretty sure i won't find room for this one here.
Uh I started running in the Kinvara 6 then 8 I’ll steer away. To me I even tried on the new I guess we called the regular converter this year and I didn’t like it at all and the phone was much thicker and it was hard. I guess I’m no longer a fan right now the thickest stack height I can run in is either Endorphin speed version one or two and a Rincon for that mostly it’s a lot thinner. I guess what people want is changing of that old flexible lightweight daily trainer. Thanks for the video. I’ve been curious what this is been about.
Saucony has themselves called this a beginners carbon plate shoe, for slower paces. They also say Endorphine Pro 3 is more efficient at right under treshold pace. Its a beginners daily, longrun or marathon shoe (more protected, heavier, more stable). No use for it for runners who know their abilities and possibly marathon pace. The Kinvara name is because Kinvara was a shoe that made minimalism shoes (barefoot) more accessible for normal people during barefoot wave and this is their way of making Carbon plated shoes accessible for normal people. Well, biggest problem is that the original Kinvara actually is a very fast and light shoe, and Kinvara Pro is a carbonplate shoe made to go slow.
Sounds like Saucony needed an expensive brick so, like adidas borrowing the name Boston or the Nike Zoom Fly 5, used a well known shoe name to help sell it.
Exactly my taughts but seems they like the Boston or zoom fly 5 or mach X from hoka missed the mark.. kinda don't see the use of this tier of shoes..
This from the guy who didn’t really like the puma shoes everyone pretty much does. Will be sure to take your advice Tim 🙄
@@karls8989 curious how my opinion of Puma shoes is relevant to a comment about a Saucony shoe. Anyway I have bought 3 Puma shoes in the last few years. All were OK but none of them truly wowed me I admit. Liberate Nitro I liked the most. Anyway I don’t think I will be buying this Kinvara Pro but if you do and report back it is wonderful I may think again.
Shoes like this would be so improved by even a smidgen of rubber on the outsole like the kinvara 14
Let’s GO! August 1st is going TO be epic. Loving the THREADS here - keep the conversations going. 👀🤫📲
I do the laces the same way Laura does on almost all my running shoes. But to use all the lace holes on the Nike Pegasus 39 and the ZoomX Invincible, I had to replace the stock laces with longer ones. For the Hoka Mach 5, Saucony Ride 14 and Endorphin Speed, the laces they came with were long enough.
Can't wait for the VS vid against the Superblast!...pretty sure based on price thats the direct competitor they were going after.
269 grams is actually quite light for such a big shoe. The speedroll tech in Saucony shoes is the best in my opinion. The plate is not really necessary but still. Awesome looking shoe. 200 beans is a bit heavy
They can print what they like on the box, I'm still going to pronounce it "SOAR-CO-NEE"
Correct 😂
So half size up and half size down? The whole sizing thing is a nightmare when there seems to be lack of running shops around that carry top end models
Saucony just seems to have odd sizing. I can wear an 11 in any other brand with no drama, but Saucony width profiles through the length of the foot is so odd (and varies from shoe to shoe) that in a world of online shopping, I've just given up on them.
For myself it does not matter what the shoe is like , any shoe which is more expensive in the UK then it is in the US is off my look at list. Unless they are being manufactured in the US (which Saucony have not been in a long time) then there is no excuse.
19:08 Are crosswalks in the UK just decorative?
I’ll be interested to see your comparison between this & the NB SC Trainer 2.
I'm wondering where to look for lighter, more flexible shoes now they've messed up the Kinvara in the name of selling more foam.
Pwrrun seems to take a while to break in (took about 30k on my Tempus’s) so will be interested to see the full review for this
Not a fan of the basic PWRRUN on the Kinvara 13. Did 80 km in them and now i can't really enjoy them anymore.
I run exclusively in Saucony and i feel like they need to slim down their lineup. Kinvara was something completely different last year, now it becomes tall and is plated? Weird.
I can train daily with Triumph 20 or the Speed 2, still good at almost 700km for my original pair, so i am pretty sure i won't find room for this one here.
This vs Boston12 vs Superblast? (I’m 5’11”, 190 lbs)… Boston 11 and Endorphin Shift 3s worked well as long run shoes for me
Hi - if price were not an issue, which is the better max stack plated shoe, the kinvara pro or the bondi x?
Uh I started running in the Kinvara 6 then 8 I’ll steer away. To me I even tried on the new I guess we called the regular converter this year and I didn’t like it at all and the phone was much thicker and it was hard. I guess I’m no longer a fan right now the thickest stack height I can run in is either Endorphin speed version one or two and a Rincon for that mostly it’s a lot thinner.
I guess what people want is changing of that old flexible lightweight daily trainer. Thanks for the video. I’ve been curious what this is been about.
There are rumors that Shift is about to be discontinued. It is now clear why.
From where?
The Triumph 21 seems better in every way
Même la 20.
mach x vs kinvara pro ?
Way too big, way too heavy. Thanks for your initial review!
Kinvara is always a narrow shoe.
Saucony has themselves called this a beginners carbon plate shoe, for slower paces. They also say Endorphine Pro 3 is more efficient at right under treshold pace. Its a beginners daily, longrun or marathon shoe (more protected, heavier, more stable). No use for it for runners who know their abilities and possibly marathon pace. The Kinvara name is because Kinvara was a shoe that made minimalism shoes (barefoot) more accessible for normal people during barefoot wave and this is their way of making Carbon plated shoes accessible for normal people. Well, biggest problem is that the original Kinvara actually is a very fast and light shoe, and Kinvara Pro is a carbonplate shoe made to go slow.