Clash of the Classics - 1968 Oldsmobile 442 vs. 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner

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  • @kenrussell1093
    @kenrussell1093 2 роки тому +2

    I bought a 1968 442 used in 1972, the sticker was still in the trunk, and it sold new for $3800 more or less, and I paid $800.00 for it at four years old. ,what a great time to be alive it was!!!

  • @michaelcoulter714
    @michaelcoulter714 2 роки тому +2

    I had a 68 442 with. The 400 SB and 4 speed..it was a fun car ! But I traded it in on a 68 chevelle SS which I enjoyed even more.

  • @johndrake2729
    @johndrake2729 Рік тому

    Excellent side reference to Rush. They were great, especially with their earlier stuff.

  • @stevenstoll2016
    @stevenstoll2016 Рік тому

    Too funny. In '72 I owned a '68 442 convertible (400ci, M22 4-speed, 3.42 rear, Jade Gold/black), and my brother owned a '68 Roadrunner (383 auto, Vitamin C orange/black).

  • @rockemsockemrusbot684
    @rockemsockemrusbot684 2 роки тому +1

    A good portion of the Chevelle’s from that era were rental cars. The Pontiac Lemans the olds cutlass and the Buick skylark not so much

  • @johnlakner4517
    @johnlakner4517 Рік тому

    Love the 1968 cutlass my mother had a new one in 1968 then when I got out of high school in 1984 I bought one for $400 dollars I really miss it now I have my wife dads car very rear
    1984 mecham Trans am came with a 350 chevy 5 speed stick racing suspension 16 inch bbs wheels scca spoiler mecham racing gauges and badges 1 of only 50 produced in 1984

  • @Ballenxj
    @Ballenxj 4 роки тому +4

    Gotta go with the 442. I've owned multiples, including a 1970 W30 with 455 and 4 speed. Damn I miss that car! Thumb up here.

    • @chatsworth8768
      @chatsworth8768 4 роки тому

      They use to call me the Olds man in our town. I had a 67 442 a 70 w30 71 cutlass sx and a 72. 442 love them all.

  • @rockemsockemrusbot684
    @rockemsockemrusbot684 2 роки тому

    The Plymouth looks like a 1965 car. It definitely looks older with it’s three box styling

  • @peteryamaha6426
    @peteryamaha6426 3 роки тому +1

    Love your show but today's program got a wee bit off track. Better leave deviation to music for a different program.

  • @forrestholcomb2621
    @forrestholcomb2621 Рік тому

    There was no telling what size engine a 442 had in it at the stoplight. I call that false advertising to the guy sitting in the other lane. All you could know was that it was a 4 barrel, 4 speed with a duel exhaust hence the 442 designation.

  • @doereason
    @doereason 5 років тому +6

    The 455 was never an option. In 1968, all 442s had 400ci engine (except for the Hurst Olds, which was not a 442). And no 1968 440 Road Runners - that didn't come out until late 1969 model.

  • @jeremythompson9895
    @jeremythompson9895 6 років тому +4

    The Plymouth GTX was really more the equivalent of the olds 442 and Buick GS. The roadrunner was more of a stripped down muscle car rivaling the GTO,Dodge super bee,and Ford Fairlane cobra

    • @oliasofsunhillow7116
      @oliasofsunhillow7116 5 років тому +1

      Plymouth v Ford v Chevrolet, Dodge v Mercury v pontiac, Chrysler v Buick and Oldsmobile full size and Imperial v Lincoln v Cadillac! The Buick and Oldsmobile intermediate and muscle cars were pretty much in a league of their own!

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому +1

      @@oliasofsunhillow7116 Yeah pretty much. The Plymouth GTX and Dodge Coronet R/T were upscale muscle cars too. I always felt like GM cars had the best fit and finish but Chrysler had the best high performance drivelines. Overall I think GM made a nicer car but Mopar had the fastest. But I wouldn't kick any of them outta my garage lol

    • @oliasofsunhillow7116
      @oliasofsunhillow7116 5 років тому +1

      @@jeremythompson9895, yeah, and Plymouth v ford v Chevrolet, Dodge v Mercury v pontiac, DeSoto v Edsel v Buick, Chrysler v Lincoln v Oldsmobile and Imperial v Continental v Cadillac, back in the late fifties!

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому +1

      @@oliasofsunhillow7116 The late 50s is when they first started to really emphasize performance in cars so that'd be cool to see. My dad always told me he thought Pontiac's were the fastest cars around in like 57-59. Chrysler too with the 392 hemi and the 413

    • @joemasse4568
      @joemasse4568 5 років тому

      @@jeremythompson9895 I agree overall GM HAD BETTER FIT ,FINISH.

  • @cjpamp1267
    @cjpamp1267 4 роки тому +2

    Partial to the 442 my father owned a 1965 4 speed no power steering all manual BEAST!!!!!!!!

  • @michaeltolomei6623
    @michaeltolomei6623 5 років тому +3

    The meaning changes right after the first year, for 1968-69 models 442 stood for 400 - 4 barrel- 2 exhaust.

    • @norristammislideshowmulgre877
      @norristammislideshowmulgre877 5 років тому +1

      Michael. Your dead on.I have had several arguments pertaining to the 442.

    • @michaeltolomei6623
      @michaeltolomei6623 5 років тому +1

      @@norristammislideshowmulgre877 I actually own one, '69 hardtop, and yeah I know the feeling. Argued with quite a few people myself. Mine used to be a factory 400 hydromatic car, and I'd get people all the time that would insist it wasn't a 442 because it wasn't a 4 speed. When in fact the VIN is a 344 number, and I always have to explain the meaning changes depending on year. Since I never had the original engine, I converted the car to a 4 speed anyway. Muncie M21 now, but still it does bring back memories of arguing my automatic 442's legitimacy.
      Another popular false meaning people give it, is mislabeling the 2, I can't count how many people I have heard say the 2 stood for 2 doors. The 2 is the one thing that has never really changed, it's always been dual exhaust as far as I know.

    • @ericbitzer5247
      @ericbitzer5247 3 роки тому

      I've had that argument. I said 400 4bbl 2exhaust. We were both right and wrong?

    • @michaeltolomei6623
      @michaeltolomei6623 3 роки тому

      @@ericbitzer5247 just depends on the year/generation of the car.
      4 barrel 4 speed dual exhaust was the very first year but that was before the 442 was it's own model. The 442 used to be an option for the cutlass which had a small block. When it became it's own model the meaning changed to 400 4 barrel. Though it still had the cutlass body it was now equipped with optional automatic's or manual transmission's and standard 400 v-8 big blocks.
      In 1970 GM lifted the restriction on engine size and the 455 became a standard block for the 442, so the meaning changed again to 455, 4 barrel, dual exhaust.
      Not to digress to far but if you research the GTO, it also shared a similar history by year and option. The A body's of GM had options in the early 60's that became their own models shortly after, offering a wider range of options while maintaining that higher trim package badge.

    • @ericbitzer5247
      @ericbitzer5247 3 роки тому

      @@michaeltolomei6623 Good info, thanks!!

  • @tomquinn607
    @tomquinn607 5 років тому +2

    My Olds 442 was my first car. 68. 400. Used in 69. Could have bought a new 69 383 RoadRunner for the same price. But the 442 was much more luxurious so I bought the 442. Great car no regrets. But.. ..if I could back to the future....I'd buy a 70 Hemi Cuda covertible and now I'd be a millionaire!

  • @dj33036
    @dj33036 4 роки тому +3

    Build quality between the two, Oldsmobile beats hands down.

  • @michaelcuff5780
    @michaelcuff5780 5 років тому +2

    These Oldsmobiles were fast and dependable. Mine would start on a 15 below zero morning when NOTHING else would start. I miss that car! 66 Cutlass convertible with a 310 hp 330 4bbl.

  • @melodigrand
    @melodigrand 5 років тому +1

    Like these presentations, thanks! I drove a 68 Roadrunner loaner for a few weeks in 68. The horn sounded exactly like the one in my uncle's 49 jeep. Inside, nothing to tell it apart from a Plymouth taxi cab. Plaid vinyl that looked like the pattern in our family's 53 Plymouth covered the bench seat, automatic shifter on the column, rubber floor mats, no gauges, plain. Had a lumpy idle for an automatic car, ran OK. In 68 you could get an SS 396 with a better interior for the same $2,800 as a Roadrunner, if you took a floor shift 3 speed manual. Plymouth figured some buyers would rather have the taxi interior and a 4 speed for the same price. The four speed would cost you $188 more on an SS396.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 5 років тому

      Plymouth blew the last of the '68 Roadrunners out for $2595... 383", 4 speed, posi, choice of rear gear ratios... The '69's were much better looking...

  • @kirkbochlige4681
    @kirkbochlige4681 3 роки тому +2

    You missed a model year 1964 was the first. In 1964 the 442 came with the 330 C.I. Hopped up 315 Horsepower & front & rear stabilizers, H.D suspension, your choice of transmissions from powerglide to 4-speed. Four tranny choices. This model year you could choose any body style from four-door to convertible. PS, you guys also missed a model year for Adam 12. Their first episode was september of 1967 and featured a 67 belvedere I with the Police Interceptor 383 4 bbl.

  • @georgelenz7594
    @georgelenz7594 5 років тому +3

    I had a 68' with a 455ci engine and a Vitar racing automatic transmission. The car was an anomaly with remarkable torque.

  • @robertward553
    @robertward553 4 роки тому +1

    Well I bought a brand new 68 442 from Cy Mack Oldsmobile in Cleveland. Loved the style and the power. First thing I did was to have Z Bart rust proof it. Dodge and Plymouth car were rust buckets after a couple of years because of the salt from Cleveland winters. I didn't have the W package so I ran D pure stock, Road Runners with the 383 ran E pure stock. I ran better times and beat them on the streets. To bad olds wasn't aloud to get the big blocks like Chrysler cars.

    • @jeremythompson9122
      @jeremythompson9122 4 роки тому

      Unless you bought a 68-69 Hurst/Olds. They had the 455. But you couldn't get the 455 in a regular 442 until 1970

  • @jeremythompson9895
    @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому +3

    And a 455 engine wasn't available in a 442 until 1970, even as an option. GM had a 400 cubic inch limit in mid size cars until 1970. I believe a 68 Hurst/Olds was the one exception

    • @scottsickel1763
      @scottsickel1763 5 років тому

      Thank you for pointing that out.

    • @jeremythompson9122
      @jeremythompson9122 4 роки тому

      Meant to say 68 and 69 Hurst/Olds. You could get a 427 Chevelle too through the COPO program but only a handful of dealerships even knew about that loophole. Only 323 427 COPO Chevelle's were built in 69 including the 99 Yenko Chevelle 427's

  • @rockemsockemrusbot684
    @rockemsockemrusbot684 2 роки тому

    The Chinese were not buying Oldsmobiles nor Pontiacs however they were buying Buicks like hot cakes

  • @ericbitzer5247
    @ericbitzer5247 3 роки тому +1

    I'm taking the Roadrunner.

  • @jeremythompson9895
    @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому +3

    A 440 wasn't available in a Roadrunner until late 1969 when the A12 440 Six Barrel Roadrunner came out

  • @jameshileman9326
    @jameshileman9326 4 роки тому +2

    For me it's the Roadrunner

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn 4 роки тому

    I had an old buddy that had a 66 442 in the mid 70's, was a former drag car, had a 455 with a 4 speed and I think 466 gears but he went down to 433 and a turbo 400, ran strong in the 1/4
    Car and Track TV show has a W-30 Hurst Olds segment, sounded and ran strong

  • @Moparmaga-1
    @Moparmaga-1 5 років тому

    Low Production numbers with low production engines & highly optioned build sheets make a car more valuable. the cars just get rarer with age but it doesn't make it a low production vehicle.

  • @charlesjacobsen9895
    @charlesjacobsen9895 4 роки тому +2

    I had a 69 Roadrunner years ago, so I’m a bit biased toward Mopar’s, however the 442 is a great car also and has the much nicer interior as well as all that monster torque!

  • @markschuman3615
    @markschuman3615 4 роки тому +1

    No question Oldsmobile 442 any day mopar is cool but never cared for the sound of the starters. Plus I'm a swayed to the Olds because I'm a former owner of a 1975 Cutlass Supreme.

  • @s2k442
    @s2k442 4 роки тому +2

    442 is my choice. It was the gentlemen hot rod.

  • @jeremythompson9895
    @jeremythompson9895 6 років тому +1

    Should do a 70 hemi road runner 4 spd vs 70 Chevelle LS6 4 spd vs 70 torino cobra 429SCJ 4spd vs 70 Buick GSX Stage 1 4spd. 4 way battle of the brands for muscle car supremacy!!! I'd take the hemi roadrunner myself and I'm a Ford guy!

  • @tonynoname455
    @tonynoname455 5 років тому +4

    Both Cars are Great and Love them both, but for 1968 I have a Special Love for the Olds 4-4-2 Especially for the bare bones W-30 models.😉❤️

  • @frankmanderino3700
    @frankmanderino3700 2 роки тому

    Olds 442 all the way!

  • @maddpeanut6313
    @maddpeanut6313 5 років тому +1

    I just found this channel. Love it. The tach in the background is interesting. RPM x1000 with 2 digit numbers. 15000 RPM, 60000 RPM? Keep it, gives character to the set.

  • @ronaldbertin9455
    @ronaldbertin9455 3 роки тому

    Get your number straight 455 wasnt available in 68,442 and 440 was nt available in the roadrunner in 68

  • @mercman2.5
    @mercman2.5 4 роки тому

    442 started out as the 4 was for 400cu.in
    4 barrel
    2 door.

  • @jeremythompson9895
    @jeremythompson9895 6 років тому +2

    Why not throw in a 70 Mercury cyclone 429scj, 70 GTO judge ram air IV, 70 Dodge hemi super bee, 70 Olds 442 W30, and 70 AMC Rebel Machine so we have a midsized representative from every manufacturer with the most powerful engine option and lowest factory axle ratio available from each manufacturer.

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому

      @War N Peace yea why not

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому

      @War N Peace that would be cool to see

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому

      @War N Peace I'll take the roadrunner in this one. Had a 69 383 4 speed Roadrunner that I bought off my dad in probably 1975. Man I miss that car. Absolute favorite car ive ever owned

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому

      @War N Peace Pontiac and Chevy definitely my faves other than Mopar. Always felt GM cars definitely had the best fit and finish but Mopar had the best high performance drivelines

    • @jeremythompson9895
      @jeremythompson9895 5 років тому

      @War N Peace favorite Chevy ever is s 62 Bel air 409/409 bubble top. Or a 66 L72 427 Impala SS. Favorite Pontiac is probably either a 64 389 tri power GTO or a 69 Ram Air IV GTO. 73 455SD Trans Am too

  • @Moparmaga-1
    @Moparmaga-1 5 років тому

    I'd take the 442 & trade it for a 71 r/t charger of course the 442 is just a down payment.

    • @maddpeanut6313
      @maddpeanut6313 5 років тому

      razzberry

    • @Moparmaga-1
      @Moparmaga-1 5 років тому

      @@maddpeanut6313 I like your peanut in the tank with pistols.

    • @Moparmaga-1
      @Moparmaga-1 5 років тому

      @@maddpeanut6313 are you Right or left ? I saw your content. Hopefully you're MAGA friendly.
      Car people are car people no matter & I wouldn't judge ya either way.

  • @Moparmaga-1
    @Moparmaga-1 5 років тому

    The prowler was meant to be a low production car. Not a million cars sold type car.

  • @michaelcuff5780
    @michaelcuff5780 5 років тому

    A time when everbody had a Chevelle or a Camaro! Sometimes you opt for something different!

  • @conraddubois6150
    @conraddubois6150 5 років тому +5

    Road Runner anytime! I demolished any 442 with my 1969 Dodge Super Bee with a 383. The 442 could not stay with a mopar!

    • @tonynoname455
      @tonynoname455 5 років тому +4

      Back in 1997 on Test & Tune Day at New England Dragway in Epping New Hampshire, I had staged up against a 1969 Roadrunner with a 383 with Air Grabber, 4 speed, 8 3/4 Posi with Slicks. My car was a1968 Olds 4-4-2 Holiday Coupe with the Original Drivetrain that had 88,000 miles on it with the 400 engine, 4 barrel Quadrajet Carb, Turbo 400 Automatic Trans, 3.90 Posi 12 Bolt type O rear end, with a set of Hooker Super Comp Headers and a set of 9"x 28" Good Year Slicks on my Olds. Well going against the Nasty Bird I took it Out of the Hole through the Sixty foot, through the Eight Mile, through the Thousand Foot and All the way through the 1320 Ft. Mark. I Ran a 13.73 e.t. at a 104 m.p.h. Against the Roadrunners 13.96.
      My Olds 4-4-2 could stay with a Mopar !!😉💪💪

    • @Richard-vu7kh
      @Richard-vu7kh 5 років тому +2

      Tony NoName45 - your 442 sounds identical to mine....which sadly I sold around 1986 in Victoria BC. I’d installed a B&M shift kit...a set of Hooker headers...a 3.91 posi...and a slightly beefier cam and lifters. With the original 400, it ran consistent 13.8’s at 102 mph. The 3.91’s made it a little too revy on the highway, but stoplight drags were a blast. That Olds was a beautiful driver...great handler as well. I also owned a Duster 340 and a ‘69 Buick GS 400 ....both terrific cars...but the 442 was my favourite by far.

    • @runninonmt8259
      @runninonmt8259 4 роки тому

      My Mother took her driving lessons in our family 442. 68 RR for sure !!

    • @jeremythompson9122
      @jeremythompson9122 4 роки тому

      Had a 69 Roadrunner 383/727 auto. Loved that car. The Olds 442 was a beautiful car though(especially 68 and 69) and really well built. And they were comfortable and drove and handled really nice. I always thought GM had overall better build quality back then as far as fit and finish but the Mopar's just always seemed to be the cars to beat performance wise...especially the 440 4 and 6 barrel's and the 426 Hemi cars. The Hemi's weren't very common though because they were such an expensive option. Saw a lot more 340, 383, and 440 Mopar's than I ever saw Hemi cars. There was a 66 Hemi Belvedere in town though when I was a kid. The original owner was a salesman at the local Plymouth dealer and he bought the car literally just to drag race it. It had the 727 Torqueflite Auto and I believe like 4.56 or 4.88 gears in the rear(not factory)but that car was the baddest around no doubt about it

  • @stephenarzoomanian8074
    @stephenarzoomanian8074 5 років тому +2

    442 4 barrel 400 cubic inch dual exhaust not 4 speed trans

  • @TBullCajunbreadmaker
    @TBullCajunbreadmaker 5 років тому

    I think if any American car company would make an exact duplicate of one of the most popular and bestselling models and offer it as a new car they would change the car companies' bottom line tremendously. Can you think of how being able to buy a brand new fastback 66 Mustang 2+2 with the 289 Ho and 4 on the floor with modern amenities would do for car buyers today? How about a brand new Super Bee?

  • @Moparmaga-1
    @Moparmaga-1 5 років тому +1

    If you use logic its mopar or no car.

  • @jimlesperance9971
    @jimlesperance9971 4 роки тому +2

    i owned a 1967 comet with 427 engine,4 speed and posi.it was faster than the gto's ahd olds 442's.

  • @stevefreeman730
    @stevefreeman730 5 років тому

    442 did not have a 455 in them due to gm rules. the hurst olds has a 455/370hp only and build custom away freom the gm plant. my dad had a 68 442 w30 4 speed car he bought new. he paid $6200 canadian for it.

  • @melodigrand
    @melodigrand 5 років тому +1

    Everybody knows the 4 stood for 4 speed transmission in the 1964s only, in 1965 Olds upped the engine from 330 to 400 cubes and said the 4 stood for 400 cubic inches, then offered an automatic transmission.

  • @OuBigTex
    @OuBigTex 6 років тому +5

    W-30 442

  • @joemasse4568
    @joemasse4568 6 років тому +3

    442 means 4oo c.i. , 4 barrel, dual exhaust, not 4 speed , they always had some with automatics.

    • @daleostrom3613
      @daleostrom3613 6 років тому +2

      Joe Masse; In 1964 all 442s had 4 speeds.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 5 років тому +1

      Also, '64 442 only had 330" engine... 400" didn't come until '65... so one of the original '4's' was for 4 speed (available)...

  • @hoodatdare7039
    @hoodatdare7039 5 років тому +3

    BUICK BOUGHT CADY AND STARTED G.M. THAT IS Y BUICK IS STILL THER

    • @johnwarnick3695
      @johnwarnick3695 4 роки тому

      3 thumbs up for a stupid comment? William Durant started G.M. with Buick, Olds, Cadillac, Oakland (soon to renamed Pontiac) then Chevrolet. The reason Buick survived and Oldsmobile and Pontiac were closed down has nothing to do with Buick buying Cadillac. Buick survived because they sell a lot of Buicks to China. Oldsmobile and Pontiac were all built on same platform as cheaper Chevrolets. When G.M. needed a government bailout they had to agree to close divisions that were brand shared clones. While Buick also shared with Chevy platform at the time, their sales figures in China heled them survive.